Re: [ozmidwifery] testing urine

[sharon]

hi i work in a tertiary institution we only test 
urine witht he first visit. otherwise no testing of urine same as wieght 
recording in pregnancy.
cheers  sharon

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Michelle Windsor 
  To: Ozmidwifery 
  Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 4:16 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] testing 
urine
  
  Hi everyone,
   
  Just a query, wondering what other places do with urine testing in 
  pregnancy.  At the moment we are doing first visit MSU's and otherwise 
  only testing (dipstick) if symptomatic, +/- MSU.  Recently there have 
  been a few women admitted with pyleonephritis, one who ended up in ICU in 
  septic shock.  So am wondering if it is worthwhile testing with each 
  visit.  I thought that the thing with pregnancy was that women could have 
  UTI's and be asymptomatic.  
   
  Cheers
  Michelle
  Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com 
  

Re: [ozmidwifery] Brisbane midwife

[Jan Robinson]

Sorry Mary
Kerrie's email is <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Phone: 07 3311 5345   Kerrie used to work in my practice with me when she lived in Sydney - is A1.  She just had a little boy (Hugo) at home with Vicki Chan.

Had my first birth for the new year yesterday - not sure how many more years I can keep this up but feel I can't put it all to rest until we get recognition from all the private health insurers and the medicare provider numbers from the Feds.
The publicly funded home birth program has been turned around by our illustrious colleagues here - with St George Hospital now offering a publicly funded home birth program out of their birth centre.
Not sure how many woman that is going to benefit but it will sure help the CVs and job prospects of our colleagues. (If I'm sounding a little depressed I AM)

Lottsa love and respect
Jan
Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner
National Coordinator  Australian Society of Independent Midwives
8 Robin Crescent   South Hurstville   NSW   2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350
e-mail address: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au
On 8 Jan, 2006, at 17:38, Mary Murphy wrote:

Could I have a contact for her please Jan

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Robinson
Sent: Sunday, 8 January 2006 11:20 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Cc: Kerrie Paul
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Brisbane midwife

 

Contact Kerrie Paul Mary, she will fill you in.
 Happy New Year
 Love
 Jan

 Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner
 National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives
8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350
 e-mail address: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au
 On 8 Jan, 2006, at 11:54, Mary Murphy wrote:

Could someone give me details of any homebirth midwives practicing in Brisbane.  Please email me off line if you don’t want to be public.  Thanks, Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  

RE: [ozmidwifery] FW: [cbistudents] Fw: [birthisrael] "natural" c/s

[Dean & Jo]

Ah Nick Fisk, the man who was quoted that natural birth was like riding
a motorcycle without a helmet and saying that all women will birth by cs
in the future...at least he is trying to make the actual experience
better for those who 'need' cs.  

I have been to 4 cs out of the last 5 births I have attended and
although it is great to be able to facilitate a positive and necessary
cs for these women I still leave feeling rather disillusioned by the
whole thing.

Sigh

Jo

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philippa
Scott
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 2:23 PM
To: MARIE MCAULIFFE; Cathy Styles; ozmidwifery;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; QLDMCcore; LYNN HEILBRONN; Honey Acharya;
Nicola Peterson; Nikki Dummett; R & H Murdoch; Sarah Cusack; Shelley
Todd
Subject: [ozmidwifery] FW: [cbistudents] Fw: [birthisrael] "natural" c/s


I thought this might interest you all, sorry if you have already seen
it.

Cheers
Philippa Scott
Birth Buddies - Doula
Providing Informational, Physical & Emotional Support during Pregnancy,
Child Birth & the Newborn time. President of the Friends of the Birth
Centre Townsville -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of amanda goldman
Sent: Monday, 9 January 2006 3:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [cbistudents] Fw: [birthisrael] "natural" c/s

Did you all see this?

- Original Message - 
From: r weissfish 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 8:38 PM
Subject: [birthisrael] "natural" c/s


What do you all think of this?!
Riva

Every bit as magical 

A British doctor is challenging convention to pioneer the 'natural'
caesarean. Joanna Moorhead watched one baby's slow and gentle arrival 

Saturday December 3, 2005
The Guardian 


The scent of lavender fills the air and classical music is playing
quietly. On the bed, Jax Martin-Betts, 42, is calm, focused and in
control. With the birth of her second child just minutes away, the
midwife, Jenny Smith, is giving her a massage. Her husband, Teady
McErlean, is whispering words of
encouragement: just a tiny bit longer, and our baby will be in our arms!

It could be a natural birth at any maternity unit in Britain, but we are
in an operating theatre at Queen Charlotte's and Chelsea hospital in
west London, and the birth we are about to witness sounds a
contradiction in
terms: a "natural" caesarean section. 


Article continues










Jax has been on the theatre table for half an hour, and the
obstetrician, Professor Nick Fisk, has almost completed the incisions
through her abdominal wall and into her uterus. "OK, the baby is about
to be born," he says. "Let's prop you up so you can see him coming out."

Smith removes the blue drape between Jax's head and her belly, and the
head of the bed is lifted to give Jax a clear view. Fisk cuts into the
amniotic sac and a fountain of fluid rises into the air before he
rummages around to locate the baby's head. In a few seconds it comes
into view, covered with the milky-white vernix that has protected it in
the womb. For the next few moments, the atmosphere in the theatre is
electric: Jax and Teady gasp in wonder at their new son, who is now
looking around, although his lower body and legs are still inside his
mother's uterus. 

This groundbreaking approach to surgical delivery - Fisk calls it a
"skin-to-skin caesarean", or "walking the baby out" - has been pioneered
by him partly in response to the rising caesarean rate, which according
to recent statistics reached a new high at 22.7% (of deliveries in
England, 2003-04). "Whatever your view on caesareans, for some women
it's always going to be the safest choice," he explains. "And while
couples having normal deliveries have been given more and more
opportunities to be fully involved in childbirth, very little has been
done to see how we could make the experience more meaningful for those
having caesareans." 

As Fisk started to examine the conventions of surgical delivery, he was
struck by how easily they could be challenged. Why, for example, did
they need to be done so quickly, when slowing them down would give the
parents more chance to participate in their child's delivery and might
give the baby a gentler experience of coming into the world? Why, too,
was it so important for the parents to be screened off from the mother's
abdomen? And was it really essential for the baby to be whisked off for
an immediate medical examination, rather than delivered into the arms of
his mother? 

"What I realised was that caesareans were done a certain way because
they've always been done a certain way, but in fact they can be done
differently - and in a way that parents love," says Fisk. Other doctors
are sometimes shocked when they hear what he is doing. "They say, but
surely you have to ge

[ozmidwifery] FW: [cbistudents] Fw: [birthisrael] "natural" c/s

[Philippa Scott]

I thought this might interest you all, sorry if you have already seen it.

Cheers
Philippa Scott
Birth Buddies - Doula
Providing Informational, Physical & Emotional Support during Pregnancy,
Child Birth & the Newborn time.
President of the Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of amanda goldman
Sent: Monday, 9 January 2006 3:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [cbistudents] Fw: [birthisrael] "natural" c/s

Did you all see this?

- Original Message - 
From: r weissfish 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 8:38 PM
Subject: [birthisrael] "natural" c/s


What do you all think of this?!
Riva

Every bit as magical 

A British doctor is challenging convention to pioneer the 'natural'
caesarean. Joanna Moorhead watched one baby's slow and gentle arrival 

Saturday December 3, 2005
The Guardian 


The scent of lavender fills the air and classical music is playing quietly.
On the bed, Jax Martin-Betts, 42, is calm, focused and in control. With the
birth of her second child just minutes away, the midwife, Jenny Smith, is
giving her a massage. Her husband, Teady McErlean, is whispering words of
encouragement: just a tiny bit longer, and our baby will be in our arms! 
It could be a natural birth at any maternity unit in Britain, but we are in
an operating theatre at Queen Charlotte's and Chelsea hospital in west
London, and the birth we are about to witness sounds a contradiction in
terms: a "natural" caesarean section. 


Article continues








Jax has been on the theatre table for half an hour, and the obstetrician,
Professor Nick Fisk, has almost completed the incisions through her
abdominal wall and into her uterus. "OK, the baby is about to be born," he
says. "Let's prop you up so you can see him coming out." 
Smith removes the blue drape between Jax's head and her belly, and the head
of the bed is lifted to give Jax a clear view. Fisk cuts into the amniotic
sac and a fountain of fluid rises into the air before he rummages around to
locate the baby's head. In a few seconds it comes into view, covered with
the milky-white vernix that has protected it in the womb. For the next few
moments, the atmosphere in the theatre is electric: Jax and Teady gasp in
wonder at their new son, who is now looking around, although his lower body
and legs are still inside his mother's uterus. 

This groundbreaking approach to surgical delivery - Fisk calls it a
"skin-to-skin caesarean", or "walking the baby out" - has been pioneered by
him partly in response to the rising caesarean rate, which according to
recent statistics reached a new high at 22.7% (of deliveries in England,
2003-04). "Whatever your view on caesareans, for some women it's always
going to be the safest choice," he explains. "And while couples having
normal deliveries have been given more and more opportunities to be fully
involved in childbirth, very little has been done to see how we could make
the experience more meaningful for those having caesareans." 

As Fisk started to examine the conventions of surgical delivery, he was
struck by how easily they could be challenged. Why, for example, did they
need to be done so quickly, when slowing them down would give the parents
more chance to participate in their child's delivery and might give the baby
a gentler experience of coming into the world? Why, too, was it so important
for the parents to be screened off from the mother's abdomen? And was it
really essential for the baby to be whisked off for an immediate medical
examination, rather than delivered into the arms of his mother? 

"What I realised was that caesareans were done a certain way because they've
always been done a certain way, but in fact they can be done differently -
and in a way that parents love," says Fisk. Other doctors are sometimes
shocked when they hear what he is doing. "They say, but surely you have to
get the baby out fast so she can get oxygen straight away? And I say, when
the baby is being born she's still attached to the umbilical cord and is
still getting oxygen from the placenta. Caesarean birth can be gentle, just
as vaginal birth can be gentle. 

"Obstetricians are too hung up on getting from the point of incision to the
birth of the baby as quickly as possible: that's been the benchmark of a
skilled surgeon. But I'm challenging that because, from the baby's and from
the parents' point of view, it's not very helpful. 

"There's also a view that because the baby's chest hasn't been squeezed
going through the birth canal, there are greater risks of breathing
difficulties. But by leaving the baby's body inside the uterus for longer
once the head is out, the body is squeezed and you see the lung liquid
coming out of the baby's nose. Unless there are other risk fa

Re: [ozmidwifery] article in our local paper today

[Mike & Lindsay Kennedy]

Did anyone save a copy of this article. I can't seem to access it.
Please forward. RGDS Mike

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> A fabulous article and very timely 
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> > sent them an email over a month ago when I received a copy of the report
> > and it took till now for it to appear.
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RE: [ozmidwifery] testing urine

[McAlpine, Joan (AHS)]

Hi 
Michelle,
 
I'm 
sorry but I don't know what state you are from, but in Victoria we tend to 
parctice by the 3 centres guidelines, a weighty document put out by RWH, Mercy 
and Monash.  The guidelines come from evidence based practice and you only 
need do urine testing if BP elevated or symptomatic of UTI.  We always did 
an initial dip stick and MSU on booking  and then dip sticks as 
needed.  Hope this helps,\
 
Joan

  -Original Message-From: Michelle Windsor 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, 8 January 2006 
  16:46To: OzmidwiferySubject: [ozmidwifery] testing 
  urine
  Hi everyone,
   
  Just a query, wondering what other places do with urine testing in 
  pregnancy.  At the moment we are doing first visit MSU's and otherwise 
  only testing (dipstick) if symptomatic, +/- MSU.  Recently there have 
  been a few women admitted with pyleonephritis, one who ended up in ICU in 
  septic shock.  So am wondering if it is worthwhile testing with each 
  visit.  I thought that the thing with pregnancy was that women could have 
  UTI's and be asymptomatic.  
   
  Cheers
  Michelle
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RE: [ozmidwifery] Waterbirths

[Megan & Larry]

Not sure for how long but at the moment this story is 
on the main page of www.NEWS.com.au , 
has a picture of a baby under water and then the article has a picture of Elle. 

Anyway, its a good promotion for water 
birth.
 
cheers
Megan


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helen and 
GrahamSent: Sunday, 8 January 2006 10:45 PMTo: 
ozmidwiferySubject: [ozmidwifery] Waterbirths



A rising tide of water births
From:  


By Ellen ConnollyJanuary 08, 2006 

UNDERWATER births have risen 
by nearly 40 per cent in the past five years as women aim for more natural 
delivery, Homebirth Australia has found."More and more women are using water 
as a pain reliever, either at home or in birthing centres," said Homebirth 
Australia secretary Justine Caines, who recently gave birth to twins in a 
blow-up pool at her home. 
The Royal Hospital for Women reported 126 of its 
births, or 38 per cent, were under water last year compared to 25 per cent in 
1997. 
Celebrities including Elle Macpherson, Kate Winslet 
and Pamela Anderson have embraced the growing trend. And most recently, 
MacLeod's Daughters star Bridie Carter had a water birth. 
At least seven NSW hospitals have water birth 
facilities. 
In 2004, research published in the British Medical 
Journal showed women who spent at least part of their labour in water had less 
pain and were less likely to require intervention than those cared for in the 
conventional way. 

 However, 
the Australian Medical Association opposes water births because of "potential 
risks for the baby", including water in the lungs". 

Re: [ozmidwifery] Waterbirths

[Päivi]

Hi from Finland for a change,
 
It sounds like a great rise in waterbirths, which 
is great. I was going to write about the article in a little local active birth 
newsletter, but have some questions about the article first:
 

"UNDERWATER births have 
risen by nearly 40 per cent in the past five years as women aim for more natural 
delivery, Homebirth Australia has found."
Would this mean in all over 
Australia or just in NSW?"The Royal Hospital for Women reported 126 of 
its births, or 38 per cent, were under water last year compared to 25 per cent 
in 1997."
 
Does this mean, that 40% off all births in this 
hospital or do they have a separate Birth Centre? It doesn't sound like a very 
busy hospital with some 300 births a year...
 
Oh, and another silly question: Is The Sunday 
Telegraph, the Sydney Newspaper?
 
 
Thanks for this info,
 
Päivi
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Helen and Graham 
  To: ozmidwifery 
  Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 2:14 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Waterbirths
  
  
  
  A rising tide of water births
  From:  
  
  
  By Ellen ConnollyJanuary 08, 2006 
  
  
  UNDERWATER births have risen 
  by nearly 40 per cent in the past five years as women aim for more natural 
  delivery, Homebirth Australia has found."More and more women are using 
  water as a pain reliever, either at home or in birthing centres," said 
  Homebirth Australia secretary Justine Caines, who recently gave birth to twins 
  in a blow-up pool at her home. 
  The Royal Hospital for Women reported 126 of its 
  births, or 38 per cent, were under water last year compared to 25 per cent in 
  1997. 
  Celebrities including Elle Macpherson, Kate Winslet 
  and Pamela Anderson have embraced the growing trend. And most recently, 
  MacLeod's Daughters star Bridie Carter had a water birth. 
  At least seven NSW hospitals have water birth 
  facilities. 
  In 2004, research published in the British Medical 
  Journal showed women who spent at least part of their labour in water had less 
  pain and were less likely to require intervention than those cared for in the 
  conventional way. 
  
   However, 
  the Australian Medical Association opposes water births because of "potential 
  risks for the baby", including water in the lungs". 

Re: [ozmidwifery] Waterbirths

[abby_toby]

It's good to read something positive about birth for a change. 

Congrats to Justine!!

I wonder when the AMA will stop making themselves look like idiotic, uneducated 
'professionals'??

> However, the Australian Medical Association opposes water births because 
> of "potential risks for the baby", including water in the lungs".

Do they read?? Surely there is enough credible evidence out there that makes 
them realise that comments like these are unsubstantiated.

Love Abby ~ still in baby dreamland
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Waterbirths

[JoFromOz]

Helen and Graham wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
  
   

  However, the Australian Medical
Association opposes water births because of "potential risks for the
baby", including water in the lungs". 
  

And yet they pluck babies right out of their waters for no or little
reason?

Jo

[ozmidwifery] Waterbirths

[Helen and Graham]

A rising tide of water births
From:  


By Ellen ConnollyJanuary 08, 2006 

UNDERWATER births have risen 
by nearly 40 per cent in the past five years as women aim for more natural 
delivery, Homebirth Australia has found."More and more women are using water 
as a pain reliever, either at home or in birthing centres," said Homebirth 
Australia secretary Justine Caines, who recently gave birth to twins in a 
blow-up pool at her home. 
The Royal Hospital for Women reported 126 of its 
births, or 38 per cent, were under water last year compared to 25 per cent in 
1997. 
Celebrities including Elle Macpherson, Kate Winslet 
and Pamela Anderson have embraced the growing trend. And most recently, 
MacLeod's Daughters star Bridie Carter had a water birth. 
At least seven NSW hospitals have water birth 
facilities. 
In 2004, research published in the British Medical 
Journal showed women who spent at least part of their labour in water had less 
pain and were less likely to require intervention than those cared for in the 
conventional way. 

 However, 
the Australian Medical Association opposes water births because of "potential 
risks for the baby", including water in the lungs". 

[ozmidwifery] FW: [ozbirthing] Fwd: Community Cabinet Heads to Bundaberg - Qld. Media statement

[Justine Caines]

Title: FW: [ozbirthing] Fwd: Community Cabinet Heads to Bundaberg - Qld. Media statement



Forwarding this in case any midwives or women in or around Bundaberg QLD

JC

Hi all

Do you, or do you know anyone who lives around Bundaberg?  The Queensland State
Government Cabinet is visiting Bundy next month as part of its community
cabinet program (please read the media release below my message).

It's always a great opportunity to remind the Premier, Health Min and other
cabinet members that women and families all over QLD are concerned about our
maternity services.

The last one was held in the Torres Strait and a group of women talked to the
Health Min about care up there.

So would be great if we could get one or two (or more) to go to this one.  If
you want the low-down on how these things run, please feel free to email me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Many thanks,
Jo


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Community Cabinet Heads to Bundaberg - Qld. Media statement
> Date: Tue,  3 Jan 2006 14:44:24 +1000 (EST)
> 
> Premier & Treasurer,   Peter Beattie
> 
> 01/01/06
> 
> 
> Community Cabinet Heads to Bundaberg
> 
> State Cabinet will head to Bundaberg next month for the first Community
> Cabinet meeting of 2006, Premier Peter Beattie announced today.
> 
> Mr Beattie said the meeting on the 19th and 20th of February would be the
> 90th since his Government was elected in 1998.
> 
> "Our Government has a big job ahead of us in 2006," Mr Beattie said.
> 
> "Our economy is strong, we have the best budget bottom line in the country,
> the lowest unemployment rate in thirty years and are providing more funding
> for infrastructure such as schools, roads, ports, railways and hospitals than
> any other Government in the history of Queensland. 
> 
> "However, there is still a lot of hard work that needs to be done.
> 
> "We have started building a better public health system and we need to
> continue to plan for new services and infrastructure that will help meet the
> challenges associated with our staggering population growth in Queensland.
> 
> "Our focus is getting on with the job and making sure we get the basics
> right.
> 
> "Community Cabinets are a vital part of this process.
> 
> "They present a unique opportunity for members of my Cabinet to listen and
> respond to the local issues and concerns of the community."
> 
> Member for Bundaberg Nita Cunningham said she was delighted that her Cabinet
> colleagues would soon be coming to Bundaberg.
> 
> She said the two-day gathering will offer people the chance to meet the
> Premier, Ministers and Directors-General, but it will also allow the region
> to highlight its successes.
> 
> "It is a great chance for us to have our say and I thank the Premier and
> Ministers for choosing one of the most vibrant and growing regions in the
> State to host the first Community Cabinet meeting for 2006," Mrs Cunningham
> said.  
> 
> 
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> 
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