Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Calendar

[Jackie Kitschke]

Barb,
I completely agree. I have finally looked this up on the 
website. What a great selection of photos. I particularly love the older 
breastfeeding child looking at the camera as she feeds. That is how my little 
girl looks (my breasts hang a bit lower though!) when she has her 
"dawn-breaker" feed and any other feed she can get when I sit down.
I'll be off to ABA soon to get one.
Jackie

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Barbara 
  Glare & Chris Bright 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 6:24 
  AM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding 
  Calendar
  
  The Australian Breastfeeding Association's 2007 
  Calendar is now available.  May I go so far as to say it's the best 
  EVER!  Gorgeous photos.  Perfect for promoting breastfeeding on any 
  hospital wall.  Perfect for your own home.  Perfect for 
  Christmas.
  Only $15 plus postage.  Purchase from http://www.mothersdirect.com.au/
   
  Regards,
  Barb GlareMum of Zac, 12, Daniel, 10, Cassie 
  7 & Guan 3Counsellor, Warrnambool Vic[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
  **
   
  Ph (03) 5565 8602Director, Australian 
  Breastfeeding AssociationMothers Directwww.mothersdirect.com.au

Re: [ozmidwifery] introduction and VBAC question

[Lisa Barrett]

Hi there,
Mary Cronk has a really good outline for looking 
after VBAC's.  It includes getting the women to be really familiar with the 
scar and tissue and how it feels to touch. (it's amazing how few women go 
there!)
The other interesting thing is the pulse.  If 
you do antenatal pulse during the last few weeks of pregnancy it gives a good 
base line.  Often in labour way before signs of pain or distress to the 
baby there is an abnormal ( taking into account normal changes due to labour) 
change that can be picked up early in the piece.  You can go to the Radical 
Midwives web site, I think lots of her stuff is written up there.  There is 
also a link on the UKmid yahoo site.
Lisa Barrett

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Pernille 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:32 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] introduction and 
  VBAC question
  
  Hi
  My name is 
  Pernille. I have been lurking for a few days now and thought I would introduce 
  myself. I am a doula and childbirth educator on the sunshine coast, but have 
  only just finished my studies. Yeah, so still pretty new in the field but love 
  every minute of it. 
   
  I have a question 
  about VBAC birthing. It seems that in hospital they want to do continues 
  monitoring of the scar and babies heart beat with the belt and have needle in 
  the arm just in case, as soon as women come in the door to give birth. But is 
  this nessecery and is there any other way to safely monitor the woman without 
  her being so resticted? Now I know there are lots of homebirth VBAC these 
  days, and surely they must have other things they do...other signs they look 
  for or just intermitted monitoring?
   
  Cheers from 
  pernille
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[ozmidwifery] ABC

[brendamanning]

ALL IN THE MIND with Natasha Mitchell - Placenta Brain: The Cognitive 
Burden Of Pregnancy?
Saturday 21 October, 1pm, repeat Wednesday 25 October, 9pm
Ever had a case of 'placenta brain', or 'pregnancy stupidity'? Can carrying 
a foetus make you drop your cognitive bundle?Are hormones to blame, or 
the psychological burden of approaching mumhood? All In the Mind looks for 
answers.
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/science/mind/

With kind regards
Brenda Manning 
www.themidwife.com.au
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Re: [ozmidwifery] introduction and VBAC question

[Wendy Thornton]

Philippa Scott wrote:


Hi and welcome,

 


www.cares-sa.org.au 

www.birthrites.org 

 

These are both excellent places to find terrific information on all 
things VBAC.


 


Yes there are alternatives.

Cheers

 


Philippa Scott
Birth Buddies - Doula
Assisting women and their families in the preparation towards 
childbirth and labour.

President of Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville

 

* From: * owner- ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner- 
ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au ] *On Behalf Of *Pernille

*Sent:* Tuesday, 17 October 2006 10:02 PM
*To:* ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
*Subject:* [ozmidwifery] introduction and VBAC question

 


Hi

My name is Pernille. I have been lurking for a few days now and 
thought I would introduce myself. I am a doula and childbirth educator 
on the sunshine coast, but have only just finished my studies. Yeah, 
so still pretty new in the field but love every minute of it.


 

I have a question about VBAC birthing. It seems that in hospital they 
want to do continues monitoring of the scar and babies heart beat with 
the belt and have needle in the arm just in case, as soon as women 
come in the door to give birth. But is this nessecery and is there any 
other way to safely monitor the woman without her being so resticted? 
Now I know there are lots of homebirth VBAC these days, and surely 
they must have other things they do...other signs they look for or 
just intermitted monitoring?


 


Cheers from pernille


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Hi Pernille, there is definately an increase in women choosing to birth 
at home after previous c/section.To date the woman that i have 
homebirthed with have ALL had wonderful vbacs. I believe its so much to 
do with a close, trusting relationship.We work together in the last 
months so that both mum , baby and family are as prepared as possible 
for the birth journey.The focus is on fetal positioning , strong body 
and mind and realistic expectations of what we women do in birth! They 
know that they will be totally supported and safe at home.There are no 
time limits and no interference in the normal process. Yes i listen 
regularly with doppler or pinnards, and i use all my other senses as 
well.And i listen intently to the woman...If she spoke of unusual pain 
or tells me she does not feel ok- then we explore and check.But i take 
no fears to birth as i believe a healthy strong baby and a healthy woman 
means a safe birth.Scientific research backs me up on this. We know 
there is less than 1% chance of scar rupture- far less risk than 
procedures like amniocentesis!As a respected obst said to a woman 
recently - she had less than 1: 4000 chance of uterine rupture and faced 
far greater risks having a repeat LSCS. Why then are VBACs so rare in 
hospitals? Cheers Wendy.

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Re: [ozmidwifery] cord blood gases

[Lisa Barrett]

Chritine, I think you'll find if you read the piece on the taking of gases 
has all the information in it.  Including the fact that they think a larger 
study should be done as aciodois of 7.05 has no long term effects.  It is 
worth wading through the whole thing.


http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~jmg/papers/brjog-94.pdf


Lisa Barrett
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RE: [ozmidwifery] cord blood gases

[wump fish]

Christine
Sorry - I don't have research evidence to support my anecdotal observations. 
Interesting how anecdotal evidence/theoretical complications is enough to 
prevent hospitals providing waterbirth (and other woman-centred birth 
options) despite the research to back it up. We are in a system that choses 
what the agenda is - and it is not an agenda based around women's needs.

Rachel
ps. the dead baby with the good cord gases had a normal base excess (which I 
would expect) but also a normal ph which I thought was supposed to reflect 
an acute hypoxic episode - which this baby obviously had.




From: "Christine Holliday" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
To: 
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] cord blood gases
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:50:47 +0930

Do you have any figures for the well babies with abnormal cord gases as 
this

evidence would not support routine cord gases on all babies but anecdotal
evidence such as this won't provide us with any support particularly when 
it

could be the machine or operators.

Christine


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of michelle 
gascoigne

Sent: 18 October 2006 05:45
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] cord blood gases

Melissa
As reported by others already I have seen MANY babes born who were in good
condition at birth with very poor gases. Do we tell parents that?  "I know
your baby looks well but the blood gases that you 'consented?' to are
suggesting otherwise". If the baby is in really poor condition can we
console ourselves or the parents with the results of good cord blood gases?
We recently had a big issue in this country where organs from babies and
children who had sadly died were kept for medical research without consent.
Many parents were outraged! I donot believe that you can take samples from 
a

cord (any more than organs)and not get permission with your reasons for
taking them, which in the end is purely to protect against litigation. My
experience of inaccuracies would certainly not help me to feel protected by
the results of any blood gases. Some of the reasons that I speculate for
inaccuracies are in collection methods speed of analysis accuracy of the
machine (we had one in theatre and one in labour ward and would get
diffferent results on same blood from each machine.) Then goodness only
knows what effect clinical practices in labour have on the results.
Simply in practice I saw nothing that gave me faith in them as a useful 
tool

and I am unable to sell them to parents when we are collecting evidence to
protect us from future litigation.
I am keeping out of the way of football so going off on one now! If we care
for women to the very best of our ability, if we build a relationship with
them and the trust and respect us they are much less likely to sue. Our
efforts would be better placed here I think!
Ultimately a no fault compensation scheme for parents of children with
pregnancy/birth injuries would get away form us spending so much energy
defending ourselves.
I will post the references but have to type them up.
Shelly
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From: "Melissa Singer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] cord blood gases


> Hi Shelley,
> I recently attended a advanced fetal assessment course at our tertiary
> hospital and all the pros for cord blood gases were presented.  CTG's 
were
> discussed with pros and cons such as 80% show some abnormality but 80% 
of

> babies are not sick or acidotic.  It was presented as one of certain
> diagnostic tools for fetal acidosis and therefore useful for litigation.
>
> You mentioned the results are inaccurate.  I'd be very interested in
> hearing why they are inaccurate.  We don't do them and I don't agree 
with

> routinely doing them so any more information would be helpful.
>
> Thanks
> Melissa
> - Original Message -
> From: "michelle gascoigne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 10:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] cord blood gases
>
>
>> Naomi
>> In England we have seen in increase in 'fear' of litigation. Obstetrics
>> in this country has always taken a huge chunk of the litigation for 
most

>> hospitals . We now have in our country CNST (clinical neglegence scheme
>> for trusts). Trusts are what groups of health care organisations are
>> called. CNST is an insurance that Trusts pay into so that litigation
>> claims can be paid when won. The CNST set out standards for trusts and
>> depending on how well you achieve the standards determines the 
insurance

>> premiums, which you can imagine are huge figures. The trouble is that
>> CNST requirements for the standards to be met are not always sensible 
or
>> in the best interests of women. Some standards like (cord blood 
sampling
>> for ph post birth) are simply taken to record results in the notes 
which

>> may protect against litigation in the future. I h

[ozmidwifery] hb Rockhampton?

[Janet Fraser]

Hi all,
does anyone know of a MW in this 
area?
J
For home birth information go 
to:Joyous Birth Australian home birth network and forums.http://www.joyousbirth.info/Or 
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