Re: [ozmidwifery] Haemorroids
The cream is really good and can be kept in the fridge for extra soothing. I've not heard of painful burning but a little warming feeling apparently. HTH - Original Message - From: suzi and brett To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Haemorroids Some women have complained to me that the witch hazel tincture burns so much they cant bear it...have you heard of that prob? There is also that thick Witch hazel barrier cream. Also warm compress in labour is supportive. Suzi - Original Message - From: Philippa Scott To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 1:35 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Haemorroids My naturopath out me on something called Phytopro by Metagenics. I take 2 3 times a day and they are gone within 1-2 days. When I stop taking them they come back. I only have them during pg and shortly after so not long to go know but they have been great. Cheers Philippa Scott Birth Buddies - Doula Assisting women and their families in the preparation towards childbirth and labour. President of Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet Fraser Sent: Thursday, 21 December 2006 12:59 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Haemorroids Tissue salts are really effective and available in most health food shops, topical witchazel is excellent too. J - Original Message - From: Michelle Windsor To: Ozmidwifery Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:26 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Haemorroids Hi everyone, Just needing some help for a friend who is 36/40 with very painful haemorroids. Is there anything that can be done apart from symptomatic relief and not becoming constipated? And in your experience how painful do women find them when they are pushing? Thanks in advance Michelle Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
RE: [ozmidwifery] synto AFTER 3rd stage?
NO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kristin Beckedahl Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2006 12:48 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] synto AFTER 3rd stage? Hi all, A woman I will be supporting for her first birth had a checkup y'day where she discussed her birth plan with the midwife. MW was very impressed and supportive overall, yet was concerned about her decision for a natural 3rd stage. She has stated on her birth plan that she would prefer to take the wait and see approach and only have it if there was 'excessive' bleeding. The MW was happy to negiotiate this with her and suggested she have it not at birth, but after the placenta has come away. Would she really need it at this stageif her loss was minimal...? Any insights would be appreciated thanks! Kristin -- Advertisement: It's simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Haemorroids
Are they getting a brand of witch hazel with too much alcohol in it? It should be pure double distilled witch hazel which usually has the tiniest amount of alcohol. On 24/12/2006, at 6:49 PM, suzi and brett wrote: Some women have complained to me that the witch hazel tincture burns so much they cant bear it...have you heard of that prob? There is also that thick Witch hazel barrier cream. Also warm compress in labour is supportive. Suzi - Original Message - From: Philippa Scott To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 1:35 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Haemorroids My naturopath out me on something called Phytopro by Metagenics. I take 2 3 times a day and they are gone within 1-2 days. When I stop taking them they come back. I only have them during pg and shortly after so not long to go know but they have been great. Cheers Philippa Scott Birth Buddies - Doula Assisting women and their families in the preparation towards childbirth and labour. President of Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet Fraser Sent: Thursday, 21 December 2006 12:59 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Haemorroids Tissue salts are really effective and available in most health food shops, topical witchazel is excellent too. J - Original Message - From: Michelle Windsor To: Ozmidwifery Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:26 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Haemorroids Hi everyone, Just needing some help for a friend who is 36/40 with very painful haemorroids. Is there anything that can be done apart from symptomatic relief and not becoming constipated? And in your experience how painful do women find them when they are pushing? Thanks in advance Michelle Send instant messages to your online friends http:// au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth
Just a fairly good size ordinary bath Mary, but quite deep, not what we would have chosen had we midwives been allowed to have any input into the upgrades. The new renovations are good on the whole - all our birth rooms now have a good size en-suite shower and toilet, and the bathroom (when we can use it) has piped N2O2. The ward bathrooms are new also and a great improvement on the old ones! Happy New year to all Sue - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 6:27 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth Sue, what sort of bath is it? A proper one with good depth and width or a larger ordinary bath? MM -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Cudlipp Sent: Saturday, 23 December 2006 11:56 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth Hi Amy Yes, that's the place. The policy is written, now apparently awaiting executive approval, then no doubt they'll find another reason to prevent us using the bath. Watch this space!! I'm tempted to wrap the door up in red tape as that is what seems to be happening. sigh Sue - Original Message - From: adamnamy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:06 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth Sue, Can I ask, do you work at Swans? I saw in the local paper that they have upgraded the facilities and have installed and new bath. It would be a bit mean (not to mention misleading) to market it and then tell women they can't use it. Amy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Cudlipp Sent: Thursday, 21 December 2006 9:55 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth Mary, you may also be interested to know that our brand new bath (where I work) is yet to be used because we -apparently - have to have a policy in place before women are allowed to use it for labour! Even though no other hospital seems to have seen this as a necessary requirement. Births in this pristine piece of porcelain are verbotten, but we will utilise the KEMH policy for 'unplanned' waterbirths. However we are still wondering when the powers that be will actually risk letting our labouring women get into the bath. It's been sitting there unused for some months now!! Merry Christmas to you too, and to all on the list Sue - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:33 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth Thank you all for your swift replies. I am supporting midwife who, as a midwife in homebirth, did lots of water births and was recently present at a water birth in a hospital where SHE supported the midwife who supported a woman's wishes for a water birth. As we have only 'accidental' water birth policies in WA hospitals, these midwives are being 'hauled over the coals' for not making the woman get out of the water to birth. Lots of intimidation going on. This will all help. Thanks and Merry Christmas, Mary M -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/581 - Release Date: 9/12/2006 3:41 PM Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/581 - Release Date: 9/12/2006 3:41 PM -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/581 - Release Date: 9/12/2006 3:41 PM
Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please...
I can't see that the talipes is significant for the birth Kelly. Very likely it is 'positional' talipes in any case, which is not uncommon and due to the baby's position in the womb, not structural deformity, which will resolve usually without treatment, but it would not make any difference to the birth process. If there is any reason this should impact on the method of birth can someone enlighten me/us? Sue - Original Message - From: Kelly Zantey To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 4:06 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please... Sorry I should have clarified. Would a breech baby with talipes have more problems than a normal breech? Best Regards, Kelly Zantey -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristin Beckedahl Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 6:51 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please... The moxa sticks close to the acupuncture points on the little toes has a good success rate too, or perhaps a combo of both.. From: Diane Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please... Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:12:59 +1100 Ask the woman to talk to her baby while laying head down on an ironing board that is leaning against the couch. Baby needs to know that there is a better way out and that she needs to uncross her feet and turn around. If she really relaxes her uterus that gives baby more room to move as well. Have her partner talk to the baby as well give it instructions on turning around. Many of you may laugh but there is a huge success rate talking to babies inutero. I know when I have turned (actually the babies do the turning) breech babies using hypnosis (simply relaxation of the body and no who-do-do-do) that the babies respond with arms and feet bulges everywhere as they are on the move, quite a funny sight. The babies are listening so ONLY positive talking and positive birth stories. Ask her not to listen to the war stories out there as they often create fear and tension in the mum and the bub. regards Di Gardner - Original Message - From: Kelly Zantey To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 4:16 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please... OK, now I have a question for you - breech and talipes. A woman has just said this: Scan came back all fine, but bubs feet are in the birth canal area and as she has talipes they think with her feet being crossed over she may have trouble moving them out of where they are. We'll just have to wait a few weeks and see. Any suggestions/comments I can pass on? Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Conception, Pregnancy, Birth and Baby BellyBelly Birth Support -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly Zantey Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 3:12 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please... Thank-you! And thanks to everyone in advance, I won't reply individually to everyone on the list to save clogging up emails, I will reply privately. http://www.bellybelly.com.au/articles/birth/breech-birth-in-australia - I shall have something up soon, its not live yet, creating it now. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Rachael Austin Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:52 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please... Ian Etherington OB/Gyn works out of the Mater Hospital in Rockhampton and will support (even encourage) women to birth breech, so long as it isn't a footling. Merry Christmas, Rachael - Original Message - From: Kelly Zantey To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:48 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please... I am compiling a list of Obs/carers who will support a woman for vaginal breech birth as I am seeing more breech women pop up and think they have no
RE: [ozmidwifery] synto AFTER 3rd stage?
If loss is minimal then syntocionon is not needed as it is to assist with the ligation of the living ligatures, if you give synt then your doing active management irriguarless of when you give it. Cheers sharon. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Ward Sent: Tuesday, 26 December 2006 10:04 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] synto AFTER 3rd stage? NO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kristin Beckedahl Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2006 12:48 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] synto AFTER 3rd stage? Hi all, A woman I will be supporting for her first birth had a checkup y'day where she discussed her birth plan with the midwife. MW was very impressed and supportive overall, yet was concerned about her decision for a natural 3rd stage. She has stated on her birth plan that she would prefer to take the wait and see approach and only have it if there was 'excessive' bleeding. The MW was happy to negiotiate this with her and suggested she have it not at birth, but after the placenta has come away. Would she really need it at this stageif her loss was minimal...? Any insights would be appreciated thanks! Kristin _ Advertisement: It's simple! Sell your car for just $20 at HYPERLINK http://g.msn.com/8HMBENAU/2746??PS=47575carsales.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.27/602 - Release Date: 25/12/2006 10:19 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.27/602 - Release Date: 25/12/2006 10:19 AM
[ozmidwifery] Trainee Doula Req'd St Albans VIC
Lisa is 6.5 weeks (due Aug), going to FPH and would like a trainee doula. Please email her [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are interested - she lives in St Albans. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, http://www.bellybelly.com.au BellyBelly.com.au Conception, Pregnancy, Birth and Baby http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support BellyBelly Birth Support
Re: [ozmidwifery] Dr Jose Villars and pre-eclampsia
Hi Janet, I haven't heard of this man's work but here are a couple of interesting articles about pre-eclampsia if you are looking into current studies by doctors. Even though they are referring to new ways of treating with drugs, I think both these articles actually point to nutrition having a huge effect. If they are finding that Evidence suggests that the disorder is triggered when the fetus is not able to absorb sufficient amounts of oxygen from the placental blood supply... then what is it that would enable better ability to absorb oxygen from the placental blood supply?...good nutrition - which allows a healthy placenta to develop. So Dr Tom Brewer's idea that pre-eclampsia can be avoided by excellent nutrition during pregnancy still holds true as we find out more and more about the condition from studies. http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060724fa_fact http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/1123568331.html?dids=1123568331:1123568331FMT=ABSFMTS=ABS:FTtype=currentdate=Sep+7%2C+2006author=Thomas+H.+Maugh+IIpub=Los+Angeles+Timesedition=startpage=A.19desc=The+Nation (I've emailed you privately the full text of this one) Cheers, Lea Mason, AAHCC Certified Bradley® Natural Childbirth Educator Labour Support Professional http://www.birthsteps.com.au - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:07 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Dr Jose Villars and pre-eclampsia Hi, I'm looking online for this man's work and can't find anything much but a mention at the US patent office. This makes me suspicious but anyway... Apparently the thrust of his work is that nutrition has no effect on pre-eclampsia, something with which I cannot agree. But I can't find his work to read! The preeclampsiafoundation.org people like him but their site is solely surgeon-driven and that too I don't like! Anyone help me? Very grateful : ) J For home birth information go to: Joyous Birth Australian home birth network and forums. http://www.joyousbirth.info/ Or email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ozmidwifery] Dr Jose Villars and pre-eclampsia
Lea said: Even though they are referring to new ways of treating with drugs, I think both these articles actually point to nutrition having a huge effect. If they are finding that Evidence suggests that the disorder is triggered when the fetus is not able to absorb sufficient amounts of oxygen from the placental blood supply... then what is it that would enable better ability to absorb oxygen from the placental blood supply?...good nutrition - which allows a healthy placenta to develop. So Dr Tom Brewer's idea that pre-eclampsia can be avoided by excellent nutrition during pregnancy still holds true as we find out more and more about the condition from studies. Well that's what I think but fans of this doctor stuff keep telling me that all it proves is that nutrition is absolutely nothing to do with PE and Brewer is a crank. I don't see many women whose surgeons tell them how to eat to avoid PE but I see a lot of midwifery input in this. Very interesting and ta for the articles!! J
