Re: [ozmidwifery] Article about natural birth and brain haemorrhage

2007-02-04 Thread EKS

My GOODNESS!!!  All in the name of research…..I definitely wouldn't be
letting my newborn have a MRI scan!  I wonder if the parents were paid (and
if so..how much) to allow their newborn to take part?  Interesting to see if
there is an increase in cancers for this research group in years to come.

Belinda


Not sure why an MRI would cause cancers as the type of energy used
does not disrupt DNA or any biological process... I'd be more worried
that the babies would have to be immobilised for the scan (if so -
how?) and would probably be terrified as they are very noisy.

Emma
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RE: [ozmidwifery] Article about natural birth and brain haemorrhage

2007-02-03 Thread Ken Ward
It has shown that the bleeds can be considered 'normal' so may help to
reduce legal action when a child does not develop normally.
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haemorrhage


  Pardon my scepticism but what exactly did this research prove? With so
many variables I am surprised that any conclusions could be drawn!
  Alesa

Haven't they got anything better to research??!!

Helen
http://www.guardian.co.uk/medicine/story/0,,2001561,00.html
One in four natural births causes brain haemorrhage
Ian Sample
Tuesday January 30, 2007
The Guardian
Giving birth naturally increases the risk of minor brain haemorrhages in
newborn babies, according to a study. Brain scans of babies aged between one
and five weeks showed small ruptures in blood vessels in or around the brain
are common, affecting one in four children born naturally.
Babies delivered by caesarean section showed no signs of even minor
bleeding.

In most cases, the haemorrhages are harmless and heal naturally, but
larger ruptures can affect brain development, leading to seizures, or
problems with learning or coordination.


Doctors at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, used magnetic
resonance imaging (MRI) to scan 88 healthy newborns. Of the 65 delivered
naturally, 17 had intracranial haemorrhages and seven had ruptures in at
least two separate regions.
John Gilmore, a professor of psychiatry and lead scientist on the study,
said the bleeding was not caused by the size of the baby or the baby's head,
the duration of labour, or the use of vacuum or forceps to assist delivery.
The bleeds are probably caused by pressure on the skull during delivery,
he said.

The scientists noticed the high rate of haemorrhages while conducting
scans to assess brain development in children perceived to be at high risk
of mental disorders. What we've shown is that if you get these bleeds, you
don't have to think something has gone wrong with the delivery, because
these are common, said Prof Gilmore, whose study is published in Radiology.

The team will conduct further scans when the babies are one and two
years old. This may help doctors assess future cases of shaken baby
syndrome, where injuries to a baby are contested. In some cases, parents or
guardians claim brain injuries have been inflicted naturally at birth. The
scans may reveal whether small haemorrhages at birth grow to become more
threatening, or gradually heal with time.
Special reports
Medicine and health

Useful links
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Department of Health
General Medical Council
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Institute of Cancer Research
Medical Research Council
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Article about natural birth and brain haemorrhage

2007-02-03 Thread suzi and brett
I remember a lecture at uni also saying that up to 75% of newborns have tiny, 
seemingly harmless,  haemorrage near the brain or in between any of the 
membranes.  It did make me wonder if there were any implications for the Vit K 
debate.

Suzi
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  Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 9:37 PM
  Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Article about natural birth and brain haemorrhage


  It has shown that the bleeds can be considered 'normal' so may help to reduce 
legal action when a child does not develop normally. 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alesa Koziol
Sent: Saturday, 3 February 2007 5:41 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Article about natural birth and brain haemorrhage


Pardon my scepticism but what exactly did this research prove? With so 
many variables I am surprised that any conclusions could be drawn!
Alesa 

  Haven't they got anything better to research??!!

  Helen
  http://www.guardian.co.uk/medicine/story/0,,2001561,00.html
  One in four natural births causes brain haemorrhage
  Ian Sample
  Tuesday January 30, 2007
  The Guardian 
  Giving birth naturally increases the risk of minor brain haemorrhages in 
newborn babies, according to a study. Brain scans of babies aged between one 
and five weeks showed small ruptures in blood vessels in or around the brain 
are common, affecting one in four children born naturally. 
  Babies delivered by caesarean section showed no signs of even minor 
bleeding. 

  In most cases, the haemorrhages are harmless and heal naturally, but 
larger ruptures can affect brain development, leading to seizures, or problems 
with learning or coordination. 


  Doctors at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, used magnetic 
resonance imaging (MRI) to scan 88 healthy newborns. Of the 65 delivered 
naturally, 17 had intracranial haemorrhages and seven had ruptures in at least 
two separate regions. 
  John Gilmore, a professor of psychiatry and lead scientist on the study, 
said the bleeding was not caused by the size of the baby or the baby's head, 
the duration of labour, or the use of vacuum or forceps to assist delivery. 
The bleeds are probably caused by pressure on the skull during delivery, he 
said. 

  The scientists noticed the high rate of haemorrhages while conducting 
scans to assess brain development in children perceived to be at high risk of 
mental disorders. What we've shown is that if you get these bleeds, you don't 
have to think something has gone wrong with the delivery, because these are 
common, said Prof Gilmore, whose study is published in Radiology. 

  The team will conduct further scans when the babies are one and two years 
old. This may help doctors assess future cases of shaken baby syndrome, where 
injuries to a baby are contested. In some cases, parents or guardians claim 
brain injuries have been inflicted naturally at birth. The scans may reveal 
whether small haemorrhages at birth grow to become more threatening, or 
gradually heal with time.
  Special reports
  Medicine and health

  Useful links
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  Department of Health
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[ozmidwifery] Article about natural birth and brain haemorrhage

2007-02-02 Thread Helen and Graham
Haven't they got anything better to research??!!

Helen
http://www.guardian.co.uk/medicine/story/0,,2001561,00.html
One in four natural births causes brain haemorrhage
Ian Sample
Tuesday January 30, 2007
The Guardian 
Giving birth naturally increases the risk of minor brain haemorrhages in 
newborn babies, according to a study. Brain scans of babies aged between one 
and five weeks showed small ruptures in blood vessels in or around the brain 
are common, affecting one in four children born naturally. 
Babies delivered by caesarean section showed no signs of even minor bleeding. 

In most cases, the haemorrhages are harmless and heal naturally, but larger 
ruptures can affect brain development, leading to seizures, or problems with 
learning or coordination. 


Doctors at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, used magnetic 
resonance imaging (MRI) to scan 88 healthy newborns. Of the 65 delivered 
naturally, 17 had intracranial haemorrhages and seven had ruptures in at least 
two separate regions. 
John Gilmore, a professor of psychiatry and lead scientist on the study, said 
the bleeding was not caused by the size of the baby or the baby's head, the 
duration of labour, or the use of vacuum or forceps to assist delivery. The 
bleeds are probably caused by pressure on the skull during delivery, he said. 

The scientists noticed the high rate of haemorrhages while conducting scans to 
assess brain development in children perceived to be at high risk of mental 
disorders. What we've shown is that if you get these bleeds, you don't have to 
think something has gone wrong with the delivery, because these are common, 
said Prof Gilmore, whose study is published in Radiology. 

The team will conduct further scans when the babies are one and two years old. 
This may help doctors assess future cases of shaken baby syndrome, where 
injuries to a baby are contested. In some cases, parents or guardians claim 
brain injuries have been inflicted naturally at birth. The scans may reveal 
whether small haemorrhages at birth grow to become more threatening, or 
gradually heal with time.
Special reports
Medicine and health

Useful links
British Medical Association
Department of Health
General Medical Council
Health on the Net Foundation
Institute of Cancer Research
Medical Research Council
NHS Direct
Royal Institute of Public Health
World Health Organisation



RE: [ozmidwifery] Article about natural birth and brain haemorrhage

2007-02-02 Thread Belinda Pound
My GOODNESS!!!  All in the name of research...I definitely wouldn't be
letting my newborn have a MRI scan!  I wonder if the parents were paid (and
if so..how much) to allow their newborn to take part?  Interesting to see if
there is an increase in cancers for this research group in years to come.

Belinda

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To: ozmidwifery
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Article about natural birth and brain haemorrhage

 


Haven't they got anything better to research??!!


 

Helen


 http://www.guardian.co.uk/medicine/story/0,,2001561,00.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/medicine/story/0,,2001561,00.html


One in four natural births causes brain haemorrhage


Ian Sample
Tuesday January 30, 2007
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/ The Guardian 
Giving birth naturally increases the risk of minor brain haemorrhages in
newborn babies, according to a study. Brain scans of babies aged between one
and five weeks showed small ruptures in blood vessels in or around the brain
are common, affecting one in four children born naturally. 


Babies delivered by caesarean section showed no signs of even minor
bleeding. 

In most cases, the haemorrhages are harmless and heal naturally, but larger
ruptures can affect brain development, leading to seizures, or problems with
learning or coordination. 

Doctors at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, used magnetic
resonance imaging (MRI) to scan 88 healthy newborns. Of the 65 delivered
naturally, 17 had intracranial haemorrhages and seven had ruptures in at
least two separate regions. 

John Gilmore, a professor of psychiatry and lead scientist on the study,
said the bleeding was not caused by the size of the baby or the baby's head,
the duration of labour, or the use of vacuum or forceps to assist delivery.
The bleeds are probably caused by pressure on the skull during delivery,
he said. 

The scientists noticed the high rate of haemorrhages while conducting scans
to assess brain development in children perceived to be at high risk of
mental disorders. What we've shown is that if you get these bleeds, you
don't have to think something has gone wrong with the delivery, because
these are common, said Prof Gilmore, whose study is published in Radiology.


The team will conduct further scans when the babies are one and two years
old. This may help doctors assess future cases of shaken baby syndrome,
where injuries to a baby are contested. In some cases, parents or guardians
claim brain injuries have been inflicted naturally at birth. The scans may
reveal whether small haemorrhages at birth grow to become more threatening,
or gradually heal with time.
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Article about natural birth and brain haemorrhage

2007-02-02 Thread Denise Hynd
I find this part contradictory 

John Gilmore, a professor of psychiatry and lead scientist on the study, said 
the bleeding was not caused by the size of the baby or the baby's head, the 
duration of labour, or the use of vacuum or forceps to assist delivery. The 
bleeds are probably caused by pressure on the skull during delivery, he said. 



It suggests  poor parameters of what defines natural birth

 and  DENIAL of the pressure on the skull during a vacuum or forceps birth 
which have an adult exerting a pull of varying strength on the foetal skull 
through to the spine ??

Denise Hynd


Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the sake 
of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by anyone, our 
bodies will be handled.

- Linda Hes

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  From: Belinda Pound 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 11:26 AM
  Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Article about natural birth and brain haemorrhage


  My GOODNESS!!!  All in the name of research...I definitely wouldn't be 
letting my newborn have a MRI scan!  I wonder if the parents were paid (and if 
so..how much) to allow their newborn to take part?  Interesting to see if there 
is an increase in cancers for this research group in years to come.

  Belinda


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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helen and 
Graham
  Sent: Saturday, 3 February 2007 9:49 AM
  To: ozmidwifery
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Article about natural birth and brain haemorrhage

   

  Haven't they got anything better to research??!!
   

  Helen

  http://www.guardian.co.uk/medicine/story/0,,2001561,00.html
  One in four natural births causes brain haemorrhage
  Ian Sample
  Tuesday January 30, 2007
  The Guardian 
  Giving birth naturally increases the risk of minor brain haemorrhages in 
newborn babies, according to a study. Brain scans of babies aged between one 
and five weeks showed small ruptures in blood vessels in or around the brain 
are common, affecting one in four children born naturally. 
  Babies delivered by caesarean section showed no signs of even minor bleeding. 

  In most cases, the haemorrhages are harmless and heal naturally, but larger 
ruptures can affect brain development, leading to seizures, or problems with 
learning or coordination. 

  Doctors at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, used magnetic 
resonance imaging (MRI) to scan 88 healthy newborns. Of the 65 delivered 
naturally, 17 had intracranial haemorrhages and seven had ruptures in at least 
two separate regions. 

  John Gilmore, a professor of psychiatry and lead scientist on the study, said 
the bleeding was not caused by the size of the baby or the baby's head, the 
duration of labour, or the use of vacuum or forceps to assist delivery. The 
bleeds are probably caused by pressure on the skull during delivery, he said. 

  The scientists noticed the high rate of haemorrhages while conducting scans 
to assess brain development in children perceived to be at high risk of mental 
disorders. What we've shown is that if you get these bleeds, you don't have to 
think something has gone wrong with the delivery, because these are common, 
said Prof Gilmore, whose study is published in Radiology. 

  The team will conduct further scans when the babies are one and two years 
old. This may help doctors assess future cases of shaken baby syndrome, where 
injuries to a baby are contested. In some cases, parents or guardians claim 
brain injuries have been inflicted naturally at birth. The scans may reveal 
whether small haemorrhages at birth grow to become more threatening, or 
gradually heal with time.
  Special reports
  Medicine and health

  Useful links
  British Medical Association
  Department of Health
  General Medical Council
  Health on the Net Foundation
  Institute of Cancer Research
  Medical Research Council
  NHS Direct
  Royal Institute of Public Health
  World Health Organisation



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Re: [ozmidwifery] Article about natural birth and brain haemorrhage

2007-02-02 Thread Alesa Koziol
Pardon my scepticism but what exactly did this research prove? With so many 
variables I am surprised that any conclusions could be drawn!
Alesa 

  Haven't they got anything better to research??!!

  Helen
  http://www.guardian.co.uk/medicine/story/0,,2001561,00.html
  One in four natural births causes brain haemorrhage
  Ian Sample
  Tuesday January 30, 2007
  The Guardian 
  Giving birth naturally increases the risk of minor brain haemorrhages in 
newborn babies, according to a study. Brain scans of babies aged between one 
and five weeks showed small ruptures in blood vessels in or around the brain 
are common, affecting one in four children born naturally. 
  Babies delivered by caesarean section showed no signs of even minor bleeding. 

  In most cases, the haemorrhages are harmless and heal naturally, but larger 
ruptures can affect brain development, leading to seizures, or problems with 
learning or coordination. 


  Doctors at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, used magnetic 
resonance imaging (MRI) to scan 88 healthy newborns. Of the 65 delivered 
naturally, 17 had intracranial haemorrhages and seven had ruptures in at least 
two separate regions. 
  John Gilmore, a professor of psychiatry and lead scientist on the study, said 
the bleeding was not caused by the size of the baby or the baby's head, the 
duration of labour, or the use of vacuum or forceps to assist delivery. The 
bleeds are probably caused by pressure on the skull during delivery, he said. 

  The scientists noticed the high rate of haemorrhages while conducting scans 
to assess brain development in children perceived to be at high risk of mental 
disorders. What we've shown is that if you get these bleeds, you don't have to 
think something has gone wrong with the delivery, because these are common, 
said Prof Gilmore, whose study is published in Radiology. 

  The team will conduct further scans when the babies are one and two years 
old. This may help doctors assess future cases of shaken baby syndrome, where 
injuries to a baby are contested. In some cases, parents or guardians claim 
brain injuries have been inflicted naturally at birth. The scans may reveal 
whether small haemorrhages at birth grow to become more threatening, or 
gradually heal with time.
  Special reports
  Medicine and health

  Useful links
  British Medical Association
  Department of Health
  General Medical Council
  Health on the Net Foundation
  Institute of Cancer Research
  Medical Research Council
  NHS Direct
  Royal Institute of Public Health
  World Health Organisation