but
neverthless identify what we are doing.
marilyn
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From:
Andrea
Quanchi
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:25
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Epidural
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Well as many of you know I would consider myself a very
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I can't agree about the iv insertion either. How
can any midwife practice independently if she can't insert an iv. And it is too
a nursing skill in most of the world. If Australian nurses are not inserting
iv's now what were they doing 30 years
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This theme reminds me of a rural hospital
about 10 yrs ago where the midwives were trying not to do routine
VEs and also in response to a dr who said midwives did not know what
they were doing. Every time a woman needed a VE, the midwives
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In
Belgium a midwife can not give top ups in epidurals.When epidurals started,
the doctors asked us to do it. But it was irresponsible.During the nightshift
( I did for 7 years)the midwifehad to take care of several
birthing mothers
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WArdVerzonden: vrijdag 20 mei 2005 14:06Aan:
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My
heart goes out to you, that woman and her family. A dreadful experience, and
who paid
Hi Judy,
Well said. Exactly my sentiment.
How's things bearing up?
Ping
Hi Ping,
We aren't doing to badly at the moment. There was a rally by
mothers and midwives and families on 12 May to protest the
'suspension' of our birthing services. Concurrently came the
release of the Maternity Services Review which I believe was
precipitated by the outcry in Mareeba. As you
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Not where I worked .
J
Jennifer Cameron FRCNA FACMPO Box 1465Howard Springs NT 0835
0419 528 717
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From:
Marilyn
Kleidon
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 10:10
AM
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Epidural top-up Policy
Yousaid everything I was thinkingLisa,
except you said it better!
Cheers,
Sadie
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To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 2:01
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Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Epidural top-up Policy
Dear Lisa and All
You seem to have missed my point. I did not advocate against women choosing an
epidural, I said the use of epidurals should not be within a midwifery scope of
practice and I stand by that. I find it insane when a fraction
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Dear Justine and all:
With respect, if midwives in Australia stop doing
things like epidural top ups etc., you will see the introduction of the
obstetric or labour and delivery nurse this is her/his domain in places where
she/he exists
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Epidural top-up Policy
Exactly - well said Justine congrats on your
wonderful baby news.
Why the midwifery profession proports and has come
to to provide the care usually done by ananaesthetic team(in
OT)is beyond my comprehension really. It is a continuum
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Dear Lisa and All
You seem to have missed my point. I did not advocate
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Dear Lisa and All
You seem to have missed my point. I did not advocate against women choosing an
epidural, I said the use of epidurals should not be within
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Epidural top-up Policy
Well said Justine
For the first 3-4 years of my midwifery experience
epidurals were not an option for women where I worked. OK they are now but it is
not the role of a midwife to top them up. I believe topping up is the job of the
anaesthetist
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Epidural top-up Policy
Justine, you wrote:
As to who should do it, yes let the
Drs go for it, it's their domain! If midwives determined what was and
wasn't midwifery then we would have real changein this country
NOW.
That is an interesting point, and raises some
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CameronVerzonden: vrijdag 20 mei 2005 4:33Aan:
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Well said Justine
For the first 3-4 years of my midwifery
Well done! MM
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Unfortunately this is what women want/expect even
Barbara Stokes wrote:
Does anyone have a policy
covering epidural top-ups using
Pethidine/Saline please.
I would also be
interested in hearing from any midwife,
regarding yearly accreditation requirements for epidural top-ups.
If you contact Helen
I'm so impressed Sally. What a fantastic result.
Jayne
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Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 4:13 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Epidural top-up Policy
Unfortunately this is what women want/expect even. (see
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Epidural top-up Policy
Justine, just a note to say I was looking
for policies about epidural top-ups. This does not mean I as a midwife use
them unless of extreme need. We do
use deep water though mothers at home dont have access due to water
shortage.
My last 2
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Epidural top-up Policy
Dear List
With all due respect Justine, who would
you suggests looks after the women who as was previously mentioned requests an
epidural, or the woman whose obstetric situation makes an epidural appropriate?
The doctors maybe?? Doubt
Does anyone have a policy covering epidural top-ups using
Pethidine/Saline please?
I would also be interested in hearing from any midwife,
regarding yearly accreditation requirements for epidural top-ups.
Our hospital policy requires yearly accreditation based on
top-ups using
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Epidural top-up Policy
Gee, why should midwives have ANYTHING to do with epidurals??
I thought midwifery was about well women and normal childbirth.
Shouldnt this be left to the Drs! Perhaps if midwives said this we would see a change in practice!
Can women in Parkes
Unfortunately this is what women want/expect even. (see thread on dramatic
women) however, out here at Casey we don't offer epidurals as a first line of
pain relief at all, consequently out of the 54 births we have so far, have had
no epidurals at all...funnily enough, these women managed well
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