Re: [ozmidwifery] New Inventors birth seat
I understand that the back comes off so that the 'dad' (partner, support person) can cradle the woman the same way as a traditional birth chair.On 10/7/06, Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,Only problems with this birth chair arethat it eliminates the needfor a support person behind the woman (poor dad misses out), and alsofixes the woman in a static position. Not easy for her to move about, wriggle, rock back and forth etc if she wants to. Convenient for theaccoucher as the women is in a still positionThis birth stool has been available for some time. Without the backrest, however (which is new) the woman tends to tilt her pelvis forward, and can easily end up in an almost horizontal position,because the seat on the stool slopes backwards.The backrest putsthe woman's pelvis into a forward tilt position, which is a morenatural drive angle, thus overcoming a design problem (as I see it) with the basic stool.With traditional birth stools, the father usually sits behind thewoman and can help her into a standing position between contractions,to assist with maintaining circulation, which is important for avoiding perineal oedema. It also gives him close contact with herand an important role in the whole process. I can't imagine a womangetting up and down easily from this particular birth stool with itsbackrest in place. The invention didn't win the award on the night.AndreaAt 10:53 AM 7/10/2006, you wrote:Did anyone else manage to catch this on Wednesday night - I onlymanaged to get the info from their website after the event, but its looks wonderful!!!http://www.abc.net.au/newinventors/txt/s1754147.htm http://www.abc.net.au/newinventors/txt/s1754147.htm(you can play the video too)What a fanastic invention - apparently quite 'cheap' too.. Not sureif she won the nights award - but cant wait for the day when these are standards in hospitals and universities for mid training...Kristin-- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit tosubscribe or unsubscribe.-- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.-- My photos online @ http://community.webshots.com/user/mike1962nzMy Group online @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PSP_for_Photographers New Photo site@Mike - http://mikelinz.dotphoto.comLindsay - Http://likeminz.dotphoto.comLife is a sexually transmitted condition with 100% mortality and birth is as safe as it gets. Unknown
RE: [ozmidwifery] New Inventors birth seat
I find that a lot of dads want to see and/or help to catch baby. Mums will often ask him if he can see anything. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Mike Lindsay KennedySent: Monday, 9 October 2006 10:10 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] New Inventors birth seatI understand that the back comes off so that the 'dad' (partner, support person) can cradle the woman the same way as a traditional birth chair. On 10/7/06, Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,Only problems with this birth chair arethat it eliminates the needfor a support person behind the woman (poor dad misses out), and alsofixes the woman in a static position. Not easy for her to move about, wriggle, rock back and forth etc if she wants to. Convenient for theaccoucher as the women is in a still positionThis birth stool has been available for some time. Without the backrest, however (which is new) the woman tends to tilt her pelvis forward, and can easily end up in an almost horizontal position,because the seat on the stool slopes backwards.The backrest putsthe woman's pelvis into a forward tilt position, which is a morenatural "drive" angle, thus overcoming a design problem (as I see it) with the basic stool.With traditional birth stools, the father usually sits behind thewoman and can help her into a standing position between contractions,to assist with maintaining circulation, which is important for avoiding perineal oedema. It also gives him close contact with herand an important role in the whole process. I can't imagine a womangetting up and down easily from this particular birth stool with itsbackrest in place. The invention didn't win the award on the night.AndreaAt 10:53 AM 7/10/2006, you wrote:Did anyone else manage to catch this on Wednesday night - I onlymanaged to get the info from their website after the event, but its looks wonderful!!!http://www.abc.net.au/newinventors/txt/s1754147.htm http://www.abc.net.au/newinventors/txt/s1754147.htm(you can play the video too)What a fanastic invention - apparently quite 'cheap' too.. Not sureif she won the nights award - but cant wait for the day when these are standards in hospitals and universities for mid training...Kristin-- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit tosubscribe or unsubscribe.--This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.-- My photos online @ http://community.webshots.com/user/mike1962nzMy Group online @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PSP_for_Photographers New Photo site@Mike - http://mikelinz.dotphoto.comLindsay - Http://likeminz.dotphoto.com"Life is a sexually transmitted condition with 100% mortality and birth is as safe as it gets." Unknown
Re: [ozmidwifery] New Inventors birth seat
Hi, Only problems with this birth chair are that it eliminates the need for a support person behind the woman (poor dad misses out), and also fixes the woman in a static position. Not easy for her to move about, wriggle, rock back and forth etc if she wants to. Convenient for the accoucher as the women is in a still position This birth stool has been available for some time. Without the back rest, however (which is new) the woman tends to tilt her pelvis forward, and can easily end up in an almost horizontal position, because the seat on the stool slopes backwards. The backrest puts the woman's pelvis into a forward tilt position, which is a more natural drive angle, thus overcoming a design problem (as I see it) with the basic stool. With traditional birth stools, the father usually sits behind the woman and can help her into a standing position between contractions, to assist with maintaining circulation, which is important for avoiding perineal oedema. It also gives him close contact with her and an important role in the whole process. I can't imagine a woman getting up and down easily from this particular birth stool with its backrest in place. The invention didn't win the award on the night. Andrea At 10:53 AM 7/10/2006, you wrote: Did anyone else manage to catch this on Wednesday night - I only managed to get the info from their website after the event, but its looks wonderful!!! http://www.abc.net.au/newinventors/txt/s1754147.htmhttp://www.abc.net.au/newinventors/txt/s1754147.htm (you can play the video too) What a fanastic invention - apparently quite 'cheap' too.. Not sure if she won the nights award - but cant wait for the day when these are standards in hospitals and universities for mid training... Kristin -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] New Inventors birth seat
It was great to hear the 'inside' story re the birth seat, ie from midwives that have attended women using them. Perhaps this kind of feedback could get to the midwife who decided it; maybe they can alter it somehow to have the back resting on hydraulics (!) so the woman can move around a little - or is that just a little too ambitious - ? LOL Kristin From: "Kristin Beckedahl" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] New Inventors birth seatDate: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 08:53:59 +0800 Did anyone else manage to catch this on Wednesday night - I only managed to get the info from their website after the event, but its looks wonderful!!! http://www.abc.net.au/newinventors/txt/s1754147.htm (you can play the video too) What a fanastic invention - apparently quite 'cheap' too.. Not sure if she won the nights award - but cant wait for the day when these are standards in hospitals and universities for mid training... Kristin -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] New Inventors birth seat
There's a few reasons it doesn't grab me. On some info about the chair it says she designed it so MWs would be more comfortable and not have to sit on toilet floors while women laboured on the loo. In hospitals birthing in the toilet is a really good idea because it can keep surgeons away. It also gives a woman more privacy while this chair seems to me to look like something throne-like that draws attention to a birthing woman in the wrong way. No woman could be left to labour unobtrusively sitting on this huge thing. I would prefer that instead of adding more products to birth that we looked at using what we have and losing a lot of normally happens. SImply turning off the lights, putting a beanbag on the floor or supporting a woman on the toilet are pretty cheap and allow women to be more in control and focussed on the business at hand. Using supportpeople as organic furniture is free and so much better.It didn't get a vote of confidence from Joyous Birth women either. J - Original Message - From: Kristin Beckedahl To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 8:30 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] New Inventors birth seat It was great to hear the 'inside' story re the birth seat, ie from midwives that have attended women using them. Perhaps this kind of feedback could get to the midwife who decided it; maybe they can alter it somehow to have the back resting on hydraulics (!) so the woman can move around a little - or is that just a little too ambitious - ? LOL Kristin From: "Kristin Beckedahl" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] New Inventors birth seatDate: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 08:53:59 +0800 Did anyone else manage to catch this on Wednesday night - I only managed to get the info from their website after the event, but its looks wonderful!!! http://www.abc.net.au/newinventors/txt/s1754147.htm (you can play the video too) What a fanastic invention - apparently quite 'cheap' too.. Not sure if she won the nights award - but cant wait for the day when these are standards in hospitals and universities for mid training... Kristin -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] New Inventors birth seat
Did anyone else manage to catch this on Wednesday night - I only managed to get the info from their website after the event, but its looks wonderful!!! http://www.abc.net.au/newinventors/txt/s1754147.htm (you can play the video too) What a fanastic invention - apparently quite 'cheap' too.. Not sure if she won the nights award - but cant wait for the day when these are standards in hospitals and universities for mid training... Kristin -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] New Inventors birth seat
Saw the show, she received some very positive and supportive comments from the judges but did not win on the night. Megan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristin BeckedahlSent: Saturday, 7 October 2006 10:24 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] New Inventors birth seat Did anyone else manage to catch this on Wednesday night - I only managed to get the info from their website after the event, but its looks wonderful!!! http://www.abc.net.au/newinventors/txt/s1754147.htm (you can play the video too) What a fanastic invention - apparently quite 'cheap' too.. Not sure if she won the nights award - but cant wait for the day when these are standards in hospitals and universities for mid training... Kristin -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] New Inventors birth seat
Dear All, Labouring womenin my practice, over 20 of them, tried this birth seat(although without the back part) and women have found it not so useful as they cannot lean forward ormove on it easily. Also ifa womanhas generous proportions theyfind it difficult to siton itand many womenfind it difficult to reach down to grasp the handles andit limits women where they want to grasp for support. Looking at the videofrom the New Inventors programthe back partappears to limit women's movement too - although I have not used it in association with the chair. As you all know some women lean far back (or forward) sometimes leaning forward with a contration and then far back in their supporters arms to rest inbetween contractions, andsometimes usinga different positionwith each contractionwith her supporter movingin unisonto accomodate, the back on the chair in the video does not look like it appears to be as accommodating. I am all for women choosing to use a birth stool/chair if they find it does not inhibit movement of choice but not one of my clients who have tried this chair wanted to continue to use it e.g. when offered a different type of chair/seat these werefoundto bemore accommodating. When quizzed at their postnatal debrief ALL of them said it was either uncomfortable - for various reasons - but what most of themcommented onwas that they could sit comfortably in it as they couldn't move around (forward/back). Soit appears ifyou want to sit back and straight to give birth it maybe not so useful to use. I am not the only one in the practice that have found women have not liked using this chair and therefore it is gathering dust in the store room. We do have 2 other types of birth stool/chairs and find women happier with these less 'technical' choices. Regards, Anne
Re: [ozmidwifery] New Inventors birth seat
Thanks for the feedback Anne. Which one do the women seem to like the best? I have only used the one from the birthinternational catalogue and it seemed to work well for the women. Cheers Judy --- Anne Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, Labouring women in my practice, over 20 of them, tried this birth seat (although without the back part) and women have found it not so useful as they cannot lean forward or move on it easily. Also if a woman has generous proportions they find it difficult to sit on it and many women find it difficult to reach down to grasp the handles and it limits women where they want to grasp for support. Looking at the video from the New Inventors program the back part appears to limit women's movement too - although I have not used it in association with the chair. As you all know some women lean far back (or forward) sometimes leaning forward with a contration and then far back in their supporters arms to rest inbetween contractions, and sometimes using a different position with each contraction with her supporter moving in unison to accomodate, the back on the chair in the video does not look like it appears to be as accommodating. I am all for women choosing to use a birth stool/chair if they find it does not inhibit movement of choice but not one of my clients who have tried this chair wanted to continue to use it e.g. when offered a different type of chair/seat these were found to be more accommodating. When quizzed at their postnatal debrief ALL of them said it was either uncomfortable - for various reasons - but what most of them commented on was that they could sit comfortably in it as they couldn't move around (forward/back). So it appears if you want to sit back and straight to give birth it maybe not so useful to use. I am not the only one in the practice that have found women have not liked using this chair and therefore it is gathering dust in the store room. We do have 2 other types of birth stool/chairs and find women happier with these less 'technical' choices. Regards, Anne On Yahoo!7 Break a world record with Total Girl's Worlds Largest Slumber Party http://www.totalgirl.com.au/slumberparty -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
