Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management

2006-02-10 Thread Gloria Lemay
Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management" I hear you, Helen! I know a woman who dilated fully in 4 hours (yes, 4!) then had a rest and be thankful stage of an hour during which it was decided she had

RE: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management

2006-02-01 Thread Dean Jo
The issue faced by women when they go post dates has a huge impact on things. I wonder if women were to celebrate and cherish the last few days of being pregnant instead of feeling 'fed up' - if women did not hear from anyone (and usually everyone) the comment of are you still here love? or the

Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management

2006-02-01 Thread Janet Fraser
an Jo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 7:49 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management" The issue faced by women when they go post dates has a huge impact on things. I wonder if women wer

Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management

2006-02-01 Thread wump fish
- From: Dean Jo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 7:49 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management The issue faced by women when they go post dates has a huge impact on things. I wonder if women were

RE: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management

2006-02-01 Thread Vedrana Valčić
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wump fish Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 12:55 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management Perhaps we need to get away from due dates altogether. Instead

RE: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management

2006-02-01 Thread Vedrana Valčić
), not on empirical data. http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/961107/pregnancy.shtml Vedrana -Original Message- From: Vedrana Valčić Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:13 PM To: 'ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au' Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management My

Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management

2006-02-01 Thread Helen and Graham
nesday, February 01, 2006 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management" Rachel, I only hear this from health professionals. I don't hear it from women, not even the most mainstream hospy birthing mamas with whom I deal. It's a very

Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management

2006-02-01 Thread Andrea Quanchi
for Naegele's rule. Vedrana -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wump fish Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 12:55 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management Perhaps we

RE: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management

2006-02-01 Thread Dean Jo
Of Andrea Quanchi Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 11:36 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management If anyone has been to captain cooks cottage in Melbourne which was his childhood home that was transported from england you will note

[ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management

2006-01-31 Thread Helen and Graham
My cogs have been turning about why "active management" of labour came about. I presume it was to do with the idea that prolonged labour can lead to cerebral palsy...preventative measure???!!! Well shouldn't that be rethought now in light of the new research that dispels the idea? I am just

Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management

2006-01-31 Thread Belinda
it stemmed from Ireland and was based on length of labour as a throughput thing rather than anything to do with cerebral palsy. The belief was that women would rather a quicker labour with intervention rather than a long labour with no intervention, it also stemmed from arbitrary ideas of

Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management

2006-01-31 Thread Birth Centre-MBH
And apparently everyone was impressed with Dublin's low caesarean rate with active management (about 5% by memory).. pity that no one evernoticed that their caesarean rate was lower before active management was introduced. One thing that the Irish did have at this time (from what I've

Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management

2006-01-31 Thread Tracy Niall
Hello from Dublin Ireland The hospital in Dublin (National Maternity Hospital) where AML originated now has a section rate of about 17% which is actually fairly low for Ireland - most hospitals are running around 20 - 25%. Every day women are still lining up to have their membranes ruptured and

Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management

2006-01-31 Thread Janet Fraser
: Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management Hello from Dublin Ireland The hospital in Dublin (National Maternity Hospital) where AML originated now has a section rate of about 17% which is actually fairly low for Ireland - most hospitals are running around 20 - 25

Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management

2006-01-31 Thread wump fish
). Rachel From: Tracy Niall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:48:58 -0800 (PST) Hello from Dublin Ireland The hospital in Dublin (National

Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management

2006-01-31 Thread Janet Fraser
Rachel, I only hear this from health professionals. I don't hear it from women, not even the most mainstream hospy birthing mamas with whom I deal. It's a very small percentage of women who embrace this technology, and an even smaller number who knowingly embrace it. If you read mainstream

RE: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management

2006-01-31 Thread Ken WArd
@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management" Rachel, I only hear this from health professionals. I don't hear it from women, not even the most mainstream hospy birthing mamas with whom I deal. It's a very small percentage of

Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management

2006-01-31 Thread wump fish
an opportunity to discuss induction with women in Australia - this seems to be a drs job here. Rachel From: Janet Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of active labour management Date