Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal heart monitoring.

2005-07-28 Thread G Lemay




Sally Westbury wrote:

  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  What I find
really interesting is that I can
see lots of obstetric guidelines but no midwifery guidelines.
  
  Sally
  

Another interesting thing about taking fetal heart tones in ANY way is
that it's not an evidence based practise. It's possible that listening
to fetal heart tones in any way only has the effect of increasing
panic and intervention and does not ultimately save babies.
Gloria Lemay




RE: [ozmidwifery] fetal heart monitoring.

2005-07-26 Thread Dean Jo
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going 
by that recomendation, a vbac woman with 1:1 care of a midwife would therefore 
not be forced to have continuous monitoring and should be allowed in the birth 
centre.

  
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  WestburySent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:43 AMTo: 
  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] fetal heart 
  monitoring.
  
  I’ve been 
  looking at patterns of intermittent auscultation for midwifery 
  practice.
  It seems 
  that little is published outside the NICE guidelines but the ACOG 
  say
  The 
  American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) states that with 
  specific intervals, intermittent auscultation of the FHR is equivalent to 
  continuous EFM in detecting fetal compromise.4 ACOG has 
  recommended a 1:1 nurse-patient ratio if intermittent auscultation is used as 
  the primary technique of FHR surveillance.4 The recommended intermittent 
  auscultation protocol calls for auscultation every 30 minutes for low-risk 
  patients in the active phase of labor and every 15 minutes in the second stage 
  of labor.4 
  Continuous EFM is indicated when abnormalities occur with intermittent 
  auscultation and for use in high-risk patients. Table 1 lists examples of the criteria 
  that have been used to categorize patients as high risk.
  
  http://www.aafp.org/afp/990501ap/2487.html
  Would anyone like to share their 
  guidelines?
  
  Sally 
  Westbury
  
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RE: [ozmidwifery] fetal heart monitoring.

2005-07-26 Thread Sally Westbury








What I find really interesting is that I can
see lots of obstetric guidelines but no midwifery guidelines.



Sally








RE: [ozmidwifery] fetal heart monitoring.

2005-07-26 Thread Dean Jo
Title: Message



Is 
this linked to the lack of midwifery research -due to lack of midwifery research 
funding?
Jo

  
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  heart monitoring.
  
  What I find really 
  interesting is that I can see lots of obstetric guidelines but no midwifery 
  guidelines.
  
  Sally
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[ozmidwifery] fetal heart monitoring.

2005-07-25 Thread Sally Westbury








Ive
been looking at patterns of intermittent auscultation for midwifery practice.

It seems
that little is published outside the NICE guidelines but the ACOG say

The
American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) states that with
specific intervals, intermittent auscultation of the FHR is equivalent to
continuous EFM in detecting fetal compromise.4 ACOG has recommended a 1:1
nurse-patient ratio if intermittent auscultation is used as the primary
technique of FHR surveillance.4
The recommended intermittent auscultation protocol calls for auscultation every
30 minutes for low-risk patients in the active phase of labor and every 15
minutes in the second stage of labor.4 Continuous EFM is indicated when abnormalities
occur with intermittent auscultation and for use in high-risk patients. Table 1 lists examples of the criteria
that have been used to categorize patients as high risk.



http://www.aafp.org/afp/990501ap/2487.html

Would anyone
like to share their guidelines?



Sally Westbury












Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal heart monitoring.

2005-07-25 Thread Alesa Koziol



We are now using the RANZCOG guidelines, which cite 
the NICE guidelines as one of the reference sources(just personally I find 
these guidelines incredibly restrictive for the labouring woman). A update on 
the guidelines is due out early August. Current version is available online 
although I cant seem to find it at the moment. 
Cheers
Alesa
Alesa KoziolClinical Midwifery EducatorMelbourne

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Sally Westbury 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:13 
AM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] fetal heart 
  monitoring.
  
  
  I’ve been 
  looking at patterns of intermittent auscultation for midwifery 
  practice.
  It seems 
  that little is published outside the NICE guidelines but the ACOG 
  say
  The 
  American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) states that with 
  specific intervals, intermittent auscultation of the FHR is equivalent to 
  continuous EFM in detecting fetal compromise.4 ACOG has 
  recommended a 1:1 nurse-patient ratio if intermittent auscultation is used as 
  the primary technique of FHR surveillance.4 The recommended intermittent 
  auscultation protocol calls for auscultation every 30 minutes for low-risk 
  patients in the active phase of labor and every 15 minutes in the second stage 
  of labor.4 
  Continuous EFM is indicated when abnormalities occur with intermittent 
  auscultation and for use in high-risk patients. Table 1 lists examples of the criteria 
  that have been used to categorize patients as high risk.
  
  http://www.aafp.org/afp/990501ap/2487.html
  Would anyone like to share their 
  guidelines?
  
  Sally 
  Westbury