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but the women are free to say
what they want and demand complete informed consent, and we can help them
navigate that rocky terrain.
Absolutely, the point I tried to make at our
meeting at work
I love that you use the word
mysogony Justine,and hi and thankyou to you Penny
too.
I was talking to a fellow midwife at my hosp about
it the other day. Sometimeswe wanted to give the benefit of the doubt...at
worst that the actions ofsome Drs was paternalistic - wanting to
help the poor
But it's not a very safe place for a consumer to be. Rocking the boat as a
consumer (especially in labour) it's your body and your baby that you are
risking will have a worse outcome for having alienated the only carers you may
have available to you. It's anybody's guess for most women whether
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I love that you use the word
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hi i think that machines do have their palce in the birthing process if and
only
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Hi,
I do find this totally horrifying, but not any more so than most the stuff
OBs and midwives use on a regular basis already
I think there is a witch hunt beginning quietly in the background and
midwives are being a bit reticent about speaking out. Look behind you, the
might be a Cassius standing there with a knife. m
I was thinking the same today, Abby. The list seems to have changed. It
wasn't all that long ago we
Signals from disposable sensors located on the maternal cervix and fetal
head objectifies the examination process Is there actually a woman and
a baby involved in this birth? M ,
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Hi,
I do find this totally horrifying, but not any more so than most
Well, how can we know if there is a medical indication unless the machines
have told us? MM
so lets keep our interferring hands off until there is a medical
indication!! Leanne.
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Well, how can we know if there is a medical indication unless
in women's bodies and the
value of both the dark and the light in our lives as I do,
Penny
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hi i think
Beautifully put Penny!
Yes where are we when the most important physical and spiritual event is
taken away from /handed over by women?
I laugh when I hear that Feminism has achieved so much.
To me the very essence of womanhood is controlled by at best a very
organised patriarchy and at worst
I'm nodding vigorously, Penny and Justine!
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Beautifully
Abby for President I love your work!
J
LOL! Thanks Janet. About 10 years ago my ambition was to become Australias
first female prime minister. Things have changed since then, I still want to
change things but know it is easier done in the background.
Love Abby
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Hi Alesa,
I don't recall seeing your initial post, which was very interesting. I
wonder how much these machines would cost, and who they would be used upon?
I can't see that they could be a main stream thing We have several CTGs
on our unit, but they are only used on supposed 'high risk'
' or 'routine' clinical practice.
My thoughts
Alesa
Alesa Koziol
Clinical Midwifery Educator
Melbourne
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Originally posted on Friday with no feedback. Are there no others in the oz
community horrified by the idea of this devise? Do we not have enough
technology invading normal birth already? A timely reminder perhaps in
light
of the current thread on CTG is that they too were introduced widely
' clinical practice.
My thoughts
Alesa
Alesa Koziol
Clinical Midwifery Educator
Melbourne
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Hi Alesa,
Perhaps next time, just cut and paste the relevant section - I find
these loo...ong bulletins impossible to wade through!
However, I know Debby well and I've done workshops at her hospital.
They have the only birth centre in Israel and are a terrific bunch of
strong women and
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