Re: [ozmidwifery] Men at births

2005-09-02 Thread Honey Acharya
I think the utter relief after giving birth and the euphoria and oxytocin running through your body with a wet warm baby on your belly can be likened to orgasm - except BETTER! Cheers Jo x I agree and it lasted for weeks Honey -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit

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2005-09-01 Thread Judy Chapman
One of the most moving father involvements I have seen was many years ago. Their first baby, she was sweaty and untidy and in pain etc and he just kept whispering in her hear You're beautiful, I love you. Tear making stuff. They are still a happy couple after another three children and 20 years.

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2005-09-01 Thread Vedrana Valčić
@acegraphics.com.au' Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Men at births What does gobsmacked mean? Vedrana From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet Fraser Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 12:45 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Men at births

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2005-09-01 Thread Vedrana Valčić
What does gobsmacked mean? Vedrana From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet Fraser Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 12:45 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Men at births I wonder if anyone does

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2005-09-01 Thread Susan Cudlipp
: Thursday, September 01, 2005 1:20 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Men at births Noises during birth ARE similar to sex I think...not that I eaves drop that often! ;o) I think when people think of birthing positions and facial expressions not being 'ladylike' I often want to say it doesn’t seem

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2005-09-01 Thread Susan Cudlipp
- From: Susan Cudlipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Men at births Ah but they don't think that sex and childbirth are related!! Thanks for making me smile Sue The only thing necessary for the triumph

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2005-09-01 Thread jo
Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2005 11:45 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Men at births PS I have a very dear friend who says that her labour WAS orgasmic - while I can't (unfortunately) claim the same, there was definitely a sexual/sensual aspect to it Sue The only

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2005-08-31 Thread Dean Jo
Personally Andrea, my hubby was far more traumatized by my second birth -my episiotomies vbac- than my horrific cs of my first. It wasn’t until I had my third did he truly understand what I was on about. He was mute with the first. Scared sh*tless with the second. He laughed and cried with our

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2005-08-31 Thread Vedrana Valčić
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Jo Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 8:51 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Men at births Personally Andrea, my hubby was far more traumatized by my second birth -my episiotomies vbac- than my horrific cs of my first

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2005-08-31 Thread Susan Cudlipp
- Original Message - From: wump fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 9:44 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Men at births This is a very interesting article and topic. I wonder if the type of birth experience influences how men feel. I think one

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2005-08-31 Thread Lea Mason
As someone who facilitates couples' preparation for birth as part of a comprehensive 12 week course that essentially gives the dads training similar to a doula's, I see this article as addressing something that happens when dads are unprepared. The type of birth experience doesn't seem to

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2005-08-31 Thread brendamanning
Lea, Your classes sound great. I wonder if anyone does these or similar in Melbourne specifically for men ?? BM - Original Message - From: Lea Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Men

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2005-08-31 Thread Tanya Fleming
PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:36 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Men at births Its interesting how the conversation focuses on the womans vagina. What about the rest of her body? My husband loved the feeling of my muscles working in my body, he

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2005-08-31 Thread Janet Fraser
I wonder if anyone does these or similar in Melbourne specifically for men On the Joyous Birth forums there is a private section specifically for fathers who have been present at births which were traumatic. We also support them in planning, with their partners,for subsequent births in a

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2005-08-31 Thread Tania Smallwood
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Miriam Hannay Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2005 10:49 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Men at births I'm with you, Megan! To give birth to a beloved child is the ultimate expression of the emotional and sexual love my

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2005-08-30 Thread wump fish
This is a very interesting article and topic. I wonder if the type of birth experience influences how men feel. I think one of points the article misses is that physiological childbirth is a sexual event (and I don't mean sexually stimulating). It involves the same hormones, parts of the

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2005-08-30 Thread Julia Vaughan
Yes it is interesting stuff indeed. Call me callous but I do think that childbirth is a fact of life and if a couple has decided (after exploring all the issues) that hubby/male partner will be present for the birth then he needs to get over it! I too have read information by Michael Odent

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2005-08-30 Thread Megan Larry
Its interesting how the conversation focuses on the womans vagina. What about the rest of her body? My husband loved the feeling of my muscles working in my body, he says they have been different for each birth. The last 3 were water births, so no vagina watching by any one. Speaking on his

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2005-08-30 Thread Jo Bourne
The thing that struck me is that they were both talking about standing at the wrong end of the bed. When I told my husband about the article he first snorted and then when I pointed out this theme of wishing they had stood at the other end of the bed he felt that standing around as a witness to

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2005-08-30 Thread brendamanning
Message - From: Jo Bourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Men at births The thing that struck me is that they were both talking about standing at the wrong end of the bed. When I told my husband about

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2005-08-30 Thread Justine Caines
I agree Megan, but sadly we have had these wonderful experiences due to independent midwifery and homebirth. I can see how so many men (even the good one's!) would be traumatised by birth within the system and see it as such a gruesome event. Long before I had children I worked in a large Gov