Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!

2005-09-21 Thread brendamanning
@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave! - how about the 'woman friendly birth centre'? There's a lot of different definitions of that one. Just had a placement with a m/w who promoted woman-friendly

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!

2005-09-21 Thread brendamanning
It's not just all about breast-feeding though is it ? BM - Original Message - From: Emily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave! wow does she not know

RE: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!

2005-09-21 Thread Tania Smallwood
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of brendamanning Sent: Wednesday, 21 September 2005 4:23 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave! Kate, Must admit I also promote 'women friendly' care, not including some

RE: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!

2005-09-21 Thread Vedrana Valčić
Kind of like mother friendly childbirth initiative (http://www.motherfriendly.org/MFCI/steps/), except mother becomes woman to include a midwife. Sounds nice. -Original Message- From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!

2005-09-21 Thread JoFromOz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of brendamanning Sent: Wednesday, 21 September 2005 4:23 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave! Kate, Must admit I also promote 'women friendly

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!

2005-09-21 Thread brendamanning
PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave! - how about the 'woman friendly birth centre'? There's a lot of different definitions of that one. Just had a placement

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!

2005-09-21 Thread wump fish
are going to be truely 'baby friendly' we need to move birth back into the family environment. Rachel From: JoFromOz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave! Date

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!

2005-09-21 Thread pierleone
I tend to agree with Jenny, Community led birth centre would address the potential for alienating other family members, particularly fathers who at times need just as much support and understanding as the mothers, the other point I like is that it literally throws it back onto the community to

RE: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!

2005-09-21 Thread Tania Smallwood
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wump fish Sent: Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:01 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave! I think the 'baby friendly initiative' doesn't take into consideration the artificial

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!

2005-09-21 Thread Miriam Hannay
Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave! I tend to agree with Jenny, Community led birth centre would address the potential for alienating

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!

2005-09-21 Thread brendamanning
, 2005 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave! I tend to agree with Jenny, Community led birth centre would address the potential for alienating other family members, particularly fathers who at times need just as much support and understanding

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!

2005-09-21 Thread brendamanning
- Original Message - From: Gloria Lemay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave! I'm not in your country and therefore can not speak to what would work

RE: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-20 Thread Dean Jo
Love 'em all Brenda! Jo Bainbridge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of brendamanning Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 2:18 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units What about MMU Units Mothers

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-20 Thread Janet Fraser
How about Evidence Based Care Centre? : ) J -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.

RE: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-20 Thread Tania Smallwood
I knew it was going to be a mild disaster Quite the opposite Sally, there are, Im sure, many of us out here who admire greatly your ability to think on your feet and point out that Sri Devis transfer illustrates exactly how the unit works, involving a tertiary centre in a safe and

RE: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-20 Thread Vedrana Valčić
, September 20, 2005 12:33 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units Here's the transcript if anyone missed it http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2005/s1463815.htm Cheers Honey - Original Message - From: Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-20 Thread Pinky McKay
and thankyou for your poised and rational comments, Sally. Pinky www.pinky-mychild.com - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:08 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-20 Thread Rachele Meredith
- Original Message - From: Vedrana Valčić Nick, I've had 30 years of experience and the disaster can come out of the clear blue sky in a patient who's been assessed as low risk and they happen in a heartbeat. They happen so rapidly that they are stunning.

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-20 Thread Denise Hynd
rom: jo To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 12:47 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units" The couple who had ob care and had a 38hr labour and ended up with forceps What were the reasons for this? Was she i

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!

2005-09-20 Thread Kate /or Nick
- how about the 'woman friendly birth centre'? There's a lot of different definitions of that one. Just had a placement with a m/w who promoted woman-friendly over baby-friendly. Her idea of w-f was to have longer hospital stays, baby in nursery, bottlefed until woman's milk comes in. She

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!

2005-09-20 Thread Emily
wow does she not know of colostrum? or the link b/w early feeds and breastfeeding success ? or think women may miss their bub? how strange. --- Kate /or Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - how about the 'woman friendly birth centre'? There's a lot of different definitions of that one.

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-19 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear Andrea Words, their overt and unrecognised implications were quite evident last night as ever in the dialogue about birth I found myself remembering Michell Odent's talking of the origin of Obstetrician and Midwife last nite ! I wonder when Dr M's attitude that birth is a disaster

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-19 Thread Honey Acharya
Here's the transcript if anyone missed it http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2005/s1463815.htm Cheers Honey - Original Message - From: Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:48 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-19 Thread sally tracy
Dear Oz mids and Andrea I agree wholeheartedly with you we have to have a better term..and on the day in Newcastle I proposed we stop suggesting any one practitioner is more important than another in this stuff and call the units 'co-operative maternity units'!! Co-ops between women

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-19 Thread Susan Cudlipp
thing"Edmund Burke - Original Message - From: sally tracy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units" Dear Oz mids and AndreaI agree wholeheartedly with you we h

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-19 Thread Honey Acharya
2005 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units" Sally, it wasn't a disaster. You presented extremely well. We all know that they will edit hours of filming to show a few seconds of what they want to portray, however I felt the overriding exposure wa

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-19 Thread Andrea Quanchi
Oh why are you all so pesimistic.(!) i thought the story was good and agree it made the prominent OB look exactly like he is. I thought it portrayed well the fact that women could easily be transferred in labour and the couple in question were quite happy to not only move but were happy to

RE: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-19 Thread Megan Larry
@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units Here's the transcript if anyone missed it http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2005/s1463815.htm Cheers Honey -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-19 Thread JoFromOz
I don't think the 7:30 report segment was all that bad. I only caught the last 1/2 of it though. When I read the transcript, I noticed that you got your title, but there was no 'Dr' infront of Peter Mourik's name ;) I wrote a little letter to the 7:30 report guestbook. Jo (Mum to Will,

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-19 Thread brendamanning
What about MMU Units Mothers Midwives United Mother Lead Unit (MLU) Unit ? What about women or mother chosen care ( MCC) ? OR It's a women chosen care/r centre ? ie the WCC unit. BM - Original Message - From: Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au

RE: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-19 Thread jo
Clarke Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:29 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units Dear Sally, You and the Ryde Birth Centre still looked terrific to me. Liked how the one Ob. supported Midwives in the 7.30 report

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led units

2005-09-19 Thread brendamanning
to relinquish birth to the rightful owners, the parents, we are just the facilitators after all. BM - Original Message - From: Anne Clarke To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led