Re: [ozmidwifery] Private Health Funds

2006-08-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Further to Justines fantastic comments
HBA do offer a refund to Private midwives somewhere 
in the vacinity of $1500 I am told. The person to speak to is Jenny Doherty 
99374074
Wen

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  Can anyone assist with their 
  knowledge of private health funds ?
  Which health fund covers the best 
  for midwifery care – I have a lady looking at care for her next pregnancy 
  having a history of 3 lscs after 2 vaginal births – and we have sought the 
  support of
  an obstetrician – thus the attempt 
  to look at joining a health fund prior to conception 
  ?
  Any help 
  appreciated
  Marie 
  Heath
  Midwyf 
  Services
  
  
  

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Re: [ozmidwifery] Private Health Funds

2006-08-14 Thread Jennifairy

Ping Bullock wrote:



TEACHERS FEDERATION HEALTH: An SA midwife has just had a client with
this company who is expecting to receive $1500 from them to cover her
homebirth. The midwife had to give her an invoice with her ABN on it,
setting out how much she
had been charged for antenatal, birth/labour  postnatal, as they were
specific about how much they would reimburse for each 'part'.


Yeah that was me, last year. They did eventually pay $1500 after we both 
(me  new mum) jumped through some hoops to satisfy criteria they were 
probably making up on the spot.
Im birthing with the same woman again (due any day now), so Im hoping it 
will be more straight forward this time seeing as they've now dealt with 
this before (with the same client even!). The problem seems to be that 
they just dont deal with this situation often enough to really know what 
to do with it, ie have identified procedures etc. I agree with Justine, 
the more women ask about it  then ask Why the hell not?, the more its 
in their faces  they then have to create policy. I think its worth 
while to add that 'other' insurance companies *do* offer 
homebirth/midwifery reimbursement - health insurance is a very 
competitive business, a few of them make a big deal about offering 
'alternative therapies' cover to attract a wider client base - if they 
want to trot out the 'numbers' argument (ie the number of women wanting 
homebirths is very small so why should they offer 'specialised' 
insurance to such a minority), just remind them that it wasnt very long 
ago that NO insurance companies offered rebates for homeopathy  
acupuncture etc - these therapies were only accessed by 'hippies', 
werent they?

cheers

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Women’s Health Teaching Associate

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Re: [ozmidwifery] Private Health Funds

2006-08-14 Thread Justine Caines
Dear Jennifairy

Please if possible get your Mum to write a quick letter to the Private
Health Insurance Ombudsman outlining her concerns and previous treatment.
Also if $1500 is not the full amount repaid (which I assume it isn't) then
also why does the fund discriminate against wellness re maternity when it
promotes it in other areas.

If we know he is receiving letters we can then lobby him

JC


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Re: [ozmidwifery] Private Health Funds

2006-08-14 Thread Jan Robinson
Hi all
NSW Teachers Federation Health Society also pays out  ... Home Births by a qualified midwife (9 months waiting period)
A benefit of up to $850, including antenatal and post natal visits, for services of a registered midwife nurse in private practice. (Confinement $500)
Defence Health  Commonwealth Bank    NRMA (through MBF)   Grand United also pay (ask your midwife to register with them  02 9370 6712 or toll free on 1800 800 245 outside Sydney) . Government Employees Health Fund (postnatal care only)  Navy Health (call 1300 30 6289 to register with them)   Manchester Unity (only if your midwife has PI  insurance) NIB Healthcover also will provide a one off payout if you have been a long-standing member 
Cheers
Jan
Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner
National Coordinator  Australian Society of Independent Midwives
8 Robin Crescent   South Hurstville   NSW   2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350
e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>  website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au
On 13 Aug, 2006, at 21:21, Justine Caines wrote:

Dear Marie and All

 Australian Unity offer $2000 towards HB (I don’t know if they cover midwifery outside the home).  I assume this is a planned Hosp birth with 1-2-1 Mid.

 MBF are now hard to deal with but even when they were good they only pay for one or the other ie HB or Hopsital services. They have in the past paid the whole amount but now you would need to fight for that.  They do not advertise this at all.  All arrangements are 1 off’s

 If the woman is going public with the Ob (Assume that’s where you’d get the support) then it should be fine.  

 NIB offer Mid services (only $750) so pretty poor.

 I believe HBA also cover midwifery.  I can’t find it on their site however.

 I would ask that even if she goes with Aust Unity that she writes to them and seeks the full amount she is charged.  It is ridiculous for PH funds to pay out $5000 to $15,000 for a c/s (often with no medical indication) and yet peanuts for midwifery.  But unless we ask we won’t get.

 Also could she please cc this to the Private Health Insurance Ombudsman (I’ll attach some points for her letter  to both the PH fund and the Ombudsman below)

 JC

 Private Health Insurance Ombudsman

 Mr John Powlay   (and this is from their site)   www.phio.org.au

You can raise a complaint with us by phone, email, fax or letter.


 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Private Health Insurance Ombudsman
  Level 7, 362 Kent Street
  SYDNEY NSW 2000
  Complaints Hotline:1800 640 695

 Telephone: (02) 8235 8777
  Facsimile: (02) 8235 8778


Points to raise to PH Funds and the Ombudsman in support of Midwifery Care

*There are more babies born each year than any other health procedure.  Appropriate cost effective PH options re maternity will affect all policy holders.

 Funds offer bonuses and incentives for maximising wellness and yet with childbirth they totally promote sickness and discourage women from maintaining wellness and minimising intervention.

 *In private health insurance there is absolutely no competition, it is totally medically dominated.  

 *It is also an area that is crippling health funds (so much so that smaller funds actually tell you which Obstetrician you can see as they can only afford some).  

 *Some  funds are looking at providing a midwifery benefit (as they recognise the huge cost saving) but where is the Government support??  Still no assistance with insurance.  - (this would be for the Ombudsman)

 With insurance all funds could offer choice (that would also double as a HUGE cost saver).  Importantly it would also make PHI a viable option for rural consumers (currently as most rural areas do not have private Obs or even Obs there is no point joining up).  This shows what a giant waste of money PHI is in its current form. (this would be for the Ombudsman)  

RE: [ozmidwifery] Private Health Funds

2006-08-13 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly
http://www.bellybelly.com.au/articles/conception/private-health-funds-coveri
ng-midwifery-and-homebirth

Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tania Smallwood
Sent: Sunday, 13 August 2006 8:17 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Private Health Funds

I think MC have done a bit of a roundup of this...not sure where to look but
their website would be a good place to start.

Tania



At 7:06 PM +1000 13/8/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can anyone assist with their knowledge of private health funds ?
Which health fund covers the best for midwifery care - I have a lady
looking at care for her next pregnancy having a history of 3 lscs after 2
vaginal births - and we have sought the support of
an obstetrician - thus the attempt to look at joining a health fund prior
to conception ?
Any help appreciated
Marie Heath
Midwyf Services
 


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