Re: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains

2006-04-05 Thread diane
, April 05, 2006 11:18 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains Again, Julie I like the way you have worded the options for 3rd stage. Nicely put with no sense of swaying a mother from what she might really want to have happen. I was unaware

Re: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains

2006-04-04 Thread Judy Chapman
I have done quite a few physiological third stages and, like labours, are all different. Have had a couple of women who have been in a lot of pain until the placenta delivered, then it was cured. They complained of back pain. Both eventually asked for synto to get the placenta out and stop the

RE: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains

2006-04-04 Thread Megan Larry
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains This is a small handout by Gloria Lemay (thanks Gloria) I give to clients about self checking. jo Self-Checking of Dilation and Descent From: Childbirth Quotes from

RE: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains

2006-04-04 Thread A C Palmer
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julie Clarke Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 7:22 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains A bright lovely good morning to you all, In all of my groups

Re: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains

2006-04-03 Thread Mike Lindsay Kennedy
Just a couple of thoughts. 1 Despite a 30min limit they cannot give you treatment without your consent. So as long as you arn't bleeding out you can take longer to deliver your placenta. Logic dictates you arn't going to refuse treatment if this becomes essential and you can always change to

RE: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains

2006-04-03 Thread Nicola Morley
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RE: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains

2006-04-03 Thread Julie Clarke
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Lindsay Kennedy Sent: Monday, 3 April 2006 6:15 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains Just a couple of thoughts

RE: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains

2006-04-03 Thread jo
, BC http://www.glorialemay.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julie Clarke Sent: Tuesday, 4 April 2006 7:22 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains

RE: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains

2006-04-02 Thread Nicola Morley
Title: Message This reminds me of a question I have after being a doula at a birth with a physiological 3rd stage. The mother in question chose physiological and found 3rd stagefar more painful than she had with 2 previously managed (synto) 3rd stages. So painful that she felt she couldn't

RE: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains

2006-04-02 Thread Maxine Wilson
April 2006 8:05 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains This reminds me of a question I have after being a doula at a birth with a physiological 3rd stage. The mother in question chose physiological

Re: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains

2006-04-02 Thread Nikki Macfarlane
Title: Message When you were with the mother who had the physiological third stage Nicole, was there any touching, pulling or tugging on the umbilical cord? If a caregiver is not commonly practicing a physiological third stage they may be putting cord traction on the cord (pulling gently)

RE: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains

2006-04-02 Thread Nicola Morley
: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains When you were with the mother who had the physiological third stage Nicole, was there any touching, pulling or tugging on the umbilical cord? If a caregiver

Re: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains

2006-04-02 Thread Ceri Katrina
Hi Nicola Who are you seeing for your care???The main thing to remember is to discuss all your wishes with the midwife on the day. If the midwife is aware of what your wishes are they can facilitate it better. From memeory (it has been a few months since I was in birthing suite) you have up to

RE: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains

2006-04-02 Thread Mary Murphy
Physiological 3rd stage is usual in homebirths and I observe that pain is often when the placenta is separated and sitting in the cervix. The uterus is signaling, get it out. It is a sign for the woman to make efforts to expel it. This may be squat over a bucket, sit on the toilet or