Re: [packman] Future of PackMan?

2012-01-10 Diskussionsfäden Ludwig Nussel
Guido Berhoerster wrote:
 * Detlef Reichelt det...@die-mafia.de [2012-01-01 22:56]:
 what should we do in the future? What is the goal of PackMan?

 Should we build only multimedia and non crippled stuff for openSUSE?
 
 I think that it isn't necessary to change the scope of Packman or
 reduce the number of packages that are provided today but that a
 reorganization and greater collaboration between openSUSE and
 Packman would provide benefits to both maintainers and our users.
 Currently Packman provides three categories of packages: software
 which is not allowed in OBS (non-free but redistributable,
 patented etc. mostly in Essentials and Multimedia), newer
 versions of packages which are in the main distribution (in
 Extra), and additional packages which are not in the main
 distribution (in Extra, Games, Multimedia).
 I'd suggest reorganizing the latter two categories by submitting
 unique Packman packages to suitable OBS development projects and
 subsequently Factory and by merging duplicate packges with their
 OBS counterparts.

Ack. Factory ftw!

 If there is a demand for a backport and
 continuous updates of a package it could be linked into a
 dedicated Packman project similar to how media player packages
 are already shared between OBS and Packman

I thought there is Tumbleweed for those who always want the latest and
greatest? Updates that make sense should be released into the regular
update channel.

cu
Ludwig

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Re: [packman] Future of PackMan?

2012-01-10 Diskussionsfäden Guido Berhoerster
* Ludwig Nussel ludwig.nus...@suse.de [2012-01-10 16:40]:
 Guido Berhoerster wrote:
  * Detlef Reichelt det...@die-mafia.de [2012-01-01 22:56]:
  what should we do in the future? What is the goal of PackMan?
 
  Should we build only multimedia and non crippled stuff for openSUSE?
  
  I think that it isn't necessary to change the scope of Packman or
  reduce the number of packages that are provided today but that a
  reorganization and greater collaboration between openSUSE and
  Packman would provide benefits to both maintainers and our users.
  Currently Packman provides three categories of packages: software
  which is not allowed in OBS (non-free but redistributable,
  patented etc. mostly in Essentials and Multimedia), newer
  versions of packages which are in the main distribution (in
  Extra), and additional packages which are not in the main
  distribution (in Extra, Games, Multimedia).
  I'd suggest reorganizing the latter two categories by submitting
  unique Packman packages to suitable OBS development projects and
  subsequently Factory and by merging duplicate packges with their
  OBS counterparts.
 
 Ack. Factory ftw!
 
  If there is a demand for a backport and
  continuous updates of a package it could be linked into a
  dedicated Packman project similar to how media player packages
  are already shared between OBS and Packman
 
 I thought there is Tumbleweed for those who always want the latest and
 greatest? Updates that make sense should be released into the regular
 update channel.

I think there was some demand (at least by Detlef) to have
selected backports of some packages for all supported openSUSE
releases which is a different scope than Tumbleweed and probably
not suitable as regular updates either. I'd strongly prefer to
have such packages were in a separate backports repo rather than
spread through Extra, Games, and Multimedia.
-- 
Guido Berhoerster

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Re: [packman] xine broken

2012-01-10 Diskussionsfäden Pascal Bleser
On 2012-01-08 10:16:21 (+), Cristian Morales Vega cmorv...@yahoo.es wrote:
 On 8 January 2012 01:37, Manfred Tremmel manf...@links2linux.de wrote:
  Am Samstag, 7. Januar 2012, 22:23:25 schrieb Smartysmart34:
  Am 07.01.2012 21:19, schrieb Mirco Redlingshöfer:
   A few hours ago, I experienced the same behaviour.
   Just search for updates again, and install the missing
   libxine2-codecs. After that, it should work again.
 
  Thank you, that did the trick
 
  I've switched to libxine2 within some frontend guis to enable all the
  new features like VDPAU support. The libxine2 has a Recommends entry to
  libxine2-codecs, normaly it should be installed automaticly.
 
 Packman doesn't generate any soft dependencies in the repo metadata. A
 new createrepo must be installed in the servers...
 
 http://lists.links2linux.de/pipermail/packman/2011-November/010445.html

Marc, any help needed with that ?

cheers
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