Re: [packman] Amarok

2012-03-07 Diskussionsfäden todd rme
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Hartmut spiel...@ewetel.net wrote:
 Am 06.03.2012 17:47, schrieb Martin Schlander:

 Tirsdag den 6. marts 2012 17:04:33 Hartmut skrev:

 My Backend is xine and I never use UpdatedApps, I need stable versions.

 Try the VLC or even the gstreamer backend. The Xine phonon backend is
 unmaintained upstream - and not recommended for quite some time.

 KDE:UpdatedApps only has stable (upstream) versions, except for very
 special
 cases.

 My first post was meant as an information for packegers. If Amarok does not
 recommend any backend as depency, then some users may have troubles.

Amarok depends on phonon for actually generating sound, the backends
are handled by phonon.  Phonon has an rpm recommends for a backend,
which means a backend will be installed unless a user specifically
overrides it.  To make sure you have the necessary recommends you can
always run: zypper inr

I do
 not hav any, cause I use Amarok 2.4.3. and Xine as backend. I do not want to
 use any other backend than Xine, everything with multimedia runs fine for
 me, since Xine exists (Digikam does not play videos - I got the advice:
 use gstreamer and dragonplayer to no avail! I think there is a little bit do
 you until we have a kind of standart).

gstreamer is the recommended backend, vlc is a good alternative.  The
xine backend has not been worked on in a long time and if it still
works at all at this point it is just luck, and it will almost
certainly have serious bugs.

If, as you said, you only use stable software, you should not use the
xine backend, since it is unsupported and untested for the last few
releases of phonon.  It probably will not be in the next openSUSE
release at all.

-Todd

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Re: [packman] Amarok

2012-03-07 Diskussionsfäden Hartmut


Am 07.03.2012 10:42, schrieb todd rme:
Amarok depends on phonon for actually generating sound, the backends 
are handled by phonon. Phonon has an rpm recommends for a backend, 
which means a backend will be installed unless a user specifically 
overrides it. To make sure you have the necessary recommends you can 
always run: zypper inr 


Thats the point: if Amarok uses Phonon, then Amarok should play, if 
Phonon works. If Amarok does not play, nobody should tell to use another 
backend, if the backend is working. So it is a bug in Amarok 2.5 
If, as you said, you only use stable software, you should not use the 
xine backend, since it is unsupported and untested for the last few 
releases of phonon. It probably will not be in the next openSUSE 
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If eryery thing works fine since years with Xine as a backend, then Xine 
is stable. I am the tester! My other old computer is build 1999 and it 
is unsupported since now 10 years, but it is working fine and running 
stable - so what?


Hartmut
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Ich habe keine besondere Begabung, sondern bin nur leidenschaftlich 
neugierig. (Einstein)

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Re: [packman] PMBS Localbuild with packages from Packman

2012-03-07 Diskussionsfäden Pascal Bleser
On 2012-03-06 16:03:01 (+0100), Ludwig Nussel ludwig.nus...@suse.de wrote:
 Ismail Dönmez wrote:
  Just use osc build --no-verify

 Well, that's a workaround but not the solution.
 osc just fetches the _pubkey of every involved project. Looks like
 pmbs doesn't return the key used for top level projects. That needs to
 be fixed at server side.

Like.. how? Is it an OBS bug?
If it isn't, I don't even know where to start looking, we didn't
patch anything on the key serving.

cheers
-- 
  -o) Pascal Bleser
  /\\ http://opensuse.org -- we haz green
 _\_v http://fosdem.org   -- we haz conf


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