Re: Aceeca - Linux or Palm or WinCE or...?
it is if you google well Best Regards, Dmitry Grinberg (847) 226 9295 On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Eric Bresie wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:53 PM, David Kenny wrote: > >> Codewarrior is windows based..not Linux..missed the point.. try using a >> Linux OS to write a Palm app..its almost not possible. so why does Palm >> choose to restrict the potential developer market? >> > > I thought Codewarrior for Palm device was no longer available... > -- > Eric Bresie > [email protected] > > -- > For information on using the ACCESS Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, > please see http://www.access-company.com/developers/forums/ > > -- For information on using the ACCESS Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.access-company.com/developers/forums/
Re: Aceeca - Linux or Palm or WinCE or...?
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:53 PM, David Kenny wrote: > Codewarrior is windows based..not Linux..missed the point.. try using a > Linux OS to write a Palm app..its almost not possible. so why does Palm > choose to restrict the potential developer market? > I thought Codewarrior for Palm device was no longer available... -- Eric Bresie [email protected] -- For information on using the ACCESS Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.access-company.com/developers/forums/
Re: Aceeca - Linux or Palm or WinCE or...?
David Thacker wrote: > Alex Topschij, Aceeca CEO, did in fact post a couple responses in > the comments section of the (copied) story on Engadget, but you > have to hunt for them pretty hard. Even harder now that Engadget has turned off comments after some rude ones (possibly on other topics.) Luc Le Blanc http://www.speleo.qc.ca/Auriga -- For information on using the ACCESS Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.access-company.com/developers/forums/
Re: Aceeca - Linux or Palm or WinCE or...?
Codewarrior is windows based..not Linux..missed the point.. try using a Linux OS to write a Palm app..its almost not possible. so why does Palm choose to restrict the potential developer market? no taking care for phone in a harsh environment isn't possbile. I would guess you don't work in 30+ foot ladders and in a dusty enviroment.. yes dropping a phone off a 2nd story happens unless you only working in an office not not fixing someone roof..yes I fix peoples roofs.. at $300 a phone forget it!. so take your phone and throw it against the brick wall..will it live..no..then it won't work for me..it might for you, but not me..sorry my last 2 phones..1 died because the mic's quite working properly the 2nd the I destroy the external display..I slide a table saw corner in the display..cracked the LCD.. I used the phone until the battery stopped taking a charge then moved to a GZone..2+yrs ago..so its possible..so take a step out and see how contractors use a phone, yes non office workers..when I worked in an office..I have those phones.. sorry delivery driver needing a rugged phone..you don't understand needing a rugged phone! think 10X this rugged! if you cannot throw it against a brick wall, and it still working noraml, its not rugged! MIL SPEC! i'm not joking here!! I wish Palm would think about having something Linux based..the programming is MUCH EASIER.. you develope palm apps for a living. ever write an app the runs on WINDOWS, LINUX and A handheld? NO compiling needed? nothing special needed? just copy the files from development to the target? yes the app I wrote for my Nokia N810 works as on on Linux desktop and I'm sure it would run on a Windows desktop. with no code changes..It uses python2.6, pyqt and sqlite. I agree about the paper receipts..I would just use pencil and paper to track the jobs and works then sent formal receipts later. but this doesn't address why palm aren't rugged. there are PC that are! sure palms and pc aren't the same thing but to suggest that palm cannot be rugged and cheap..I don't but it. so what's the next non phone after Palm Tx? separate the 2 function..the PDA stay safe..the phone..it might have to live having the crap beat out of it..put another way I don't need a PDA that I can beat the crap out of but its the phone as well..all bets are off.it'll get the crap beat out of it. thanks to taking the time to anwser. -dkenny Benjamin wrote: On 2/3/2010 9:46 PM, David Kenny wrote: too bad Palm missed the market..they used to have a great product. it almost impossible to develop palm apps using Linux platform..bad move.. does the webos support python? pyqt? pyside? I found that you have to use Codewarrior to even write a Palm app easily. Otherwise I found it near impossible. Pretty easy to do using Codewarrior. Palm Programming Bible is a must. I do Palm development for a living. its also a shame that almost all new devices are a PDA/phone..ever stop to think of what happens when you break the phone? My current Gzone is the only phone I've owned that's lived more 1yr and I wouldn't think twice about replacing the battery instead of the whole phone. the rest died or broke or were broken. there are very few mil spec phones and no mil spec PDA's on the market. Take better care of your phones. I have all my past phones lined up side by side on my dresser. Sure I only use my Pixi and the Centro is still used as a PDA to test apps. in the article they mention a ruggized device..to what standard? and at $500...pencil and paper is looking better.. $500 is cheap for a ruggedized Palm. Janam makes ruggedized Palms and the Janam is about $750. They are used by delivery drivers and such to print receipts on the go and such. It is pretty much a bargain. A pencil and paper receipt aren't very professional in my humble opinion. I am looking forward to the new Aceeca Palms. They are needed for the industry we make software for. That PDA 32 sounds good too. I am not sure how powerful it is or if it could replace a TX or E2, but I hope it is. E2 and TX are too fragile for point of sale applications and they are getting hard to find anymore. -- For information on using the ACCESS Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.access-company.com/developers/forums/
Re: Aceeca - Linux or Palm or WinCE or...?
On 2/3/2010 9:46 PM, David Kenny wrote: too bad Palm missed the market..they used to have a great product. it almost impossible to develop palm apps using Linux platform..bad move.. does the webos support python? pyqt? pyside? I found that you have to use Codewarrior to even write a Palm app easily. Otherwise I found it near impossible. Pretty easy to do using Codewarrior. Palm Programming Bible is a must. I do Palm development for a living. its also a shame that almost all new devices are a PDA/phone..ever stop to think of what happens when you break the phone? My current Gzone is the only phone I've owned that's lived more 1yr and I wouldn't think twice about replacing the battery instead of the whole phone. the rest died or broke or were broken. there are very few mil spec phones and no mil spec PDA's on the market. Take better care of your phones. I have all my past phones lined up side by side on my dresser. Sure I only use my Pixi and the Centro is still used as a PDA to test apps. in the article they mention a ruggized device..to what standard? and at $500...pencil and paper is looking better.. $500 is cheap for a ruggedized Palm. Janam makes ruggedized Palms and the Janam is about $750. They are used by delivery drivers and such to print receipts on the go and such. It is pretty much a bargain. A pencil and paper receipt aren't very professional in my humble opinion. I am looking forward to the new Aceeca Palms. They are needed for the industry we make software for. That PDA 32 sounds good too. I am not sure how powerful it is or if it could replace a TX or E2, but I hope it is. E2 and TX are too fragile for point of sale applications and they are getting hard to find anymore. -- For information on using the ACCESS Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.access-company.com/developers/forums/
Re: Aceeca - Linux or Palm or WinCE or...?
too bad Palm missed the market..they used to have a great product. it almost impossible to develop palm apps using Linux platform..bad move.. does the webos support python? pyqt? pyside? i tried for months to learn to write a palm app..yes I know how to program. It took me about 6 months to learn pyqt and python to write an app for my Nokia N810. yes I have another job so learning to program was done in my spare time. I never got that far with the palm developement. way too MS focused. its also a shame that almost all new devices are a PDA/phone..ever stop to think of what happens when you break the phone? My current Gzone is the only phone I've owned that's lived more 1yr and I wouldn't think twice about replacing the battery instead of the whole phone. the rest died or broke or were broken. there are very few mil spec phones and no mil spec PDA's on the market. in the article they mention a ruggized device..to what standard? and at $500...pencil and paper is looking better.. -dkenny Edward Jones wrote: I was very interested when David Thacker made the announcement about the Aceeca Palm PDAs and went looking for more information and pictures to show the bosses but I was a little worried when going to Aceecas web site that they only show the MEZ1500 as running either Linux or Win CE? http://www.aceeca.com/home/mez_comparison_NEW-20090225.php The only product that is listed as running PalmOS is the grey scale MEZ1000 which is no good for me. Worse still, the Aceeca site makes no reference to the PDA32 which is the one I am most interested in... Can anyone (David?) confirm this? Regards Edward Jones -- For information on using the ACCESS Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.access-company.com/developers/forums/
Re: Aceeca - Linux or Palm or WinCE or...?
Ben, I'll take this opportunity to correct your response. Tam Hanna copied my original story about the Aceeca handhelds from my posting to the Palm Entrepreneur's Forum (PEF) mailing list, without my permission or attribution. Other news outlets copied from Hanna's posting. PIC posted an article quoting Hanna's posting, even though I sent an original copy to PIC, but when I asked them about it, they recognized their mistake and modified their story accordingly: http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/6631/aceeca-readying-new-palm-os-garnet-handhelds/ I don't really care that Hanna copied what I wrote, but I do care enough to set the record straight here. The goal of my posting was to get the word out about the new Garnet-powered handhelds coming, so that is the important thing in my view. [Would I have posted someone else's story without attribution? Of course not.] Responding to Edward's questions about why this information doesn't come direct from Aceeca or why it doesn't show up on their website, that is definitely a valid question. It took me months of back and forth with the Aceeca CEO to get permission to release the information I did. To make a long story shorter, they originally announced the MEZ1500 with CE in the fall of 2007. Their hardware design had some problems, and so they took a lot of flak for announcing the product before it was ready. It's been a long road to get that product to market, and they've now swung the other way (in my opinion) in waiting too long before announcing that it is ready and that they have other new handhelds almost ready as well. I don't think you'll see an announcement about the new devices on the Aceeca website until the day it is added to their online store. Alex Topschij, Aceeca CEO, did in fact post a couple responses in the comments section of the (copied) story on Engadget, but you have to hunt for them pretty hard. Regarding your ALP question, I doubt you will see ALP offered on the Aceeca devices. One other exciting tidbit about PalmOS Garnet on the Aceeca MEZ1500 and PDA32: Aceeca has full OS source code and authorization from ACCESS to make whatever changes they see fit to improve the OS. Regards, -- David Thacker http://www.SatelliteForms.net The Premier RAD Tool for PalmOS & PocketPC "Benjamin" <> wrote in message news:188...@palm-dev-forum... > This was addressed earlier. From what I understand, Tam Hanna was the one > who released the information and Aceeca was embarrassed earlier by not > making their release dates and was reluctant to issue a press release > until they are solid on the date. > > At least that is the information I received from reading this forum. > > I also look forward to using this device and my customers might like it > too. Look forward to getting my hands on one of each unit to review. > > Benjamin. > > On 2/3/2010 1:49 AM, Edward Jones wrote: >> I was very interested when David Thacker made the announcement about the >> Aceeca Palm PDAs and went looking for more information and pictures to >> show the bosses but I was a little worried when going to Aceecas web >> site that they only show the MEZ1500 as running either Linux or Win CE? >> http://www.aceeca.com/home/mez_comparison_NEW-20090225.php >> >> The only product that is listed as running PalmOS is the grey scale >> MEZ1000 which is no good for me. Worse still, the Aceeca site makes no >> reference to the PDA32 which is the one I am most interested in... >> >> Can anyone (David?) confirm this? >> >> Regards >> >> Edward Jones >> > > -- For information on using the ACCESS Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.access-company.com/developers/forums/
Re: Aceeca - Linux or Palm or WinCE or...?
This was addressed earlier. From what I understand, Tam Hanna was the one who released the information and Aceeca was embarrassed earlier by not making their release dates and was reluctant to issue a press release until they are solid on the date. At least that is the information I received from reading this forum. I also look forward to using this device and my customers might like it too. Look forward to getting my hands on one of each unit to review. Benjamin. On 2/3/2010 1:49 AM, Edward Jones wrote: I was very interested when David Thacker made the announcement about the Aceeca Palm PDAs and went looking for more information and pictures to show the bosses but I was a little worried when going to Aceecas web site that they only show the MEZ1500 as running either Linux or Win CE? http://www.aceeca.com/home/mez_comparison_NEW-20090225.php The only product that is listed as running PalmOS is the grey scale MEZ1000 which is no good for me. Worse still, the Aceeca site makes no reference to the PDA32 which is the one I am most interested in... Can anyone (David?) confirm this? Regards Edward Jones -- For information on using the ACCESS Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.access-company.com/developers/forums/
Re: Aceeca - Linux or Palm or WinCE or...?
Unless, of course, Linux = ALP the Access Linux Platform? Which asks more questions about compatability? On 03/02/2010 07:49, Edward Jones wrote: I was very interested when David Thacker made the announcement about the Aceeca Palm PDAs and went looking for more information and pictures to show the bosses but I was a little worried when going to Aceecas web site that they only show the MEZ1500 as running either Linux or Win CE? http://www.aceeca.com/home/mez_comparison_NEW-20090225.php The only product that is listed as running PalmOS is the grey scale MEZ1000 which is no good for me. Worse still, the Aceeca site makes no reference to the PDA32 which is the one I am most interested in... Can anyone (David?) confirm this? Regards Edward Jones -- For information on using the ACCESS Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.access-company.com/developers/forums/
