Re: [Paraview] Catalyst: dump everything in C++

2016-09-21 Thread Andy Bauer
Hi Matthieu,

That makes complete sense. I've thought about putting in a C++ Catalyst
pipeline in the main source code that could be used to just write out the
data at some prescribed file name and frequency but haven't forced myself
to do it. It gets slightly more complicated when dealing with multiple
inputs. In the Examples/Catalyst/SampleScripts subdirectory of the source
code there are two Python scripts that can be used to write out the full
grid, gridwriter.py and allinputsgridwriter.py.

If you create a C++ script to do that and want to have it added into
ParaView, I can help with that. Otherwise, I'll get to it eventually...

Cheers,
Andy


On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Lokman Rahmani 
wrote:

> Hi Matthieu!
>
> I investigated the same question recently, here is what I found so far.
>
> In Catalyst/CoProcessing the python script is used to create a vtk pipeline
>
> -
> vtkNew pipeline;
>
> pipeline->Initialize(scriptPath)
> -
>
> This pipeline will be passed to vtk processor that will do the
> CoPorcessing by executing the pipeline
>
> --
> vtkCPProcessor* Processor = vtkCPProcessor::New();
>
> Processor->Initialize();
> Processor->AddPipeline(pipeline.GetPointer());
> Processor->CcProcess(...)
> --
>
> checking the souce code of VtkCPProcessor (https://gitlab.kitware.com/
> paraview/paraview/blob/master/CoProcessing/Catalyst/vtkCPProcessor.h)
>
> 
>
>   /// Add in a pipeline that is externally configured. Returns 1 if  /// 
> successful and 0 otherwise.  virtual int AddPipeline(vtkCPPipeline* pipeline);
>
> ---
>
> a vtkCPProcessor object can add a pipeline of any class extending the
> vtkCPPipeline (which is a an abstract class)
>
> Beside of the official python implementation (https://gitlab.kitware.com/
> paraview/paraview/blob/master/CoProcessing/PythonCatalyst/
> vtkCPPythonScriptPipeline.h) I am not aware of any other implementation.
>
> Otherwise, you can to implement your own implementation (which looks very
> time consuming ...).
> http://www.vtk.org/Wiki/VTK/Tutorials/New_Pipeline
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> I'll be interested if some one is aware of any c++ implementation of the
> pipeline.
>
> Best,
> Lokman
>
> 
>
>
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> *De: *"Matthieu Dorier" 
> *À: *"ParaView Mailing List ‎[paraview@paraview.org]‎" <
> paraview@paraview.org>
> *Envoyé: *Mercredi 21 Septembre 2016 15:27:41
> *Objet: *[Paraview] Catalyst: dump everything in C++
>
>
> Hi,
>
> In general the way we create python scripts for a Catalyst-enabled
> simulation is by first running the simulation with a Python script that
> writes the data into files, then do offline analysis on those files and
> export a python script representing the analysis tasks to be done in situ.
>
> I was wondering if, instead of using a Python script for writing all the
> data into file, an equivalent C++ code was available, and how such a code
> would be integrated into a Catalyst-enabled simulation? Or maybe just with
> VTK once the adaptors are written for the simulation's data?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matthieu
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Re: [Paraview] Catalyst: dump everything in C++

2016-09-21 Thread Lokman Rahmani
Hi Matthieu! 

I investigated the same question recently, here is what I found so far. 

In Catalyst/CoProcessing the python script is used to create a vtk pipeline 

- 
vtkNew pipeline; 
pipeline->Initialize(scriptPath) 
- 

This pipeline will be passed to vtk processor that will do the CoPorcessing by 
executing the pipeline 

-- 
vtkCPProcessor* Processor = vtkCPProcessor::New(); 
Processor->Initialize(); 
Processor->AddPipeline(pipeline.GetPointer()); 
Processor->CcProcess(...) 
-- 

checking the souce code of VtkCPProcessor ( 
https://gitlab.kitware.com/paraview/paraview/blob/master/CoProcessing/Catalyst/vtkCPProcessor.h
 ) 

 

/// Add in a pipeline that is externally configured. Returns 1 if /// 
successful and 0 otherwise. virtual int AddPipeline ( vtkCPPipeline * pipeline 
); 
--- 

a vtkCPProcessor object can add a pipeline of any class extending the 
vtkCPPipeline (which is a an abstract class) 

Beside of the official python implementation ( 
https://gitlab.kitware.com/paraview/paraview/blob/master/CoProcessing/PythonCatalyst/vtkCPPythonScriptPipeline.h
 ) I am not aware of any other implementation. 

Otherwise, you can to implement your own implementation (which looks very time 
consuming ...). 
http://www.vtk.org/Wiki/VTK/Tutorials/New_Pipeline 

Hope this helps. 

I'll be interested if some one is aware of any c++ implementation of the 
pipeline. 

Best, 
Lokman 

 

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> De: "Matthieu Dorier" 
> À: "ParaView Mailing List ‎[paraview@paraview.org]‎" 
> Envoyé: Mercredi 21 Septembre 2016 15:27:41
> Objet: [Paraview] Catalyst: dump everything in C++

> Hi,

> In general the way we create python scripts for a Catalyst-enabled simulation
> is by first running the simulation with a Python script that writes the data
> into files, then do offline analysis on those files and export a python
> script representing the analysis tasks to be done in situ.

> I was wondering if, instead of using a Python script for writing all the data
> into file, an equivalent C++ code was available, and how such a code would
> be integrated into a Catalyst-enabled simulation? Or maybe just with VTK
> once the adaptors are written for the simulation's data?

> Thanks,

> Matthieu

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Re: [Paraview] Catalyst: dump everything in C++

2016-09-21 Thread Dorier, Matthieu
Hi,

The reason I would like a C++ pipeline is that I have a simulation that has 
several available output formats (HDF5, etc.) and I would like to make VTK one 
of the possible formats. Since the simulation is instrumented with Catalyst, it 
would be easy to just use a Python script building a pipeline that just output 
the data, but I'd like to avoid having to carry around a Python script that the 
user may forget to copy in his working directory when the simulation is 
launched. I'd find it cleaner to have this particular pipeline setup in C++.

Thanks,

Matthieu


From: Lokman Rahmani [lokman.rahm...@irisa.fr]
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:33 AM
To: Andy Bauer
Cc: Dorier, Matthieu; ParaView Mailing List ‎[paraview@paraview.org]‎
Subject: Re: [Paraview] Catalyst: dump everything in C++

Thanks Andy, I was not aware of the examples.

Best,
Lokman




De: "Andy Bauer" 
À: "Matthieu Dorier" 
Cc: "ParaView Mailing List ‎[paraview@paraview.org]‎" 
Envoyé: Mercredi 21 Septembre 2016 16:25:36
Objet: Re: [Paraview] Catalyst: dump everything in C++

Hi Matthieu,

You can indeed use Catalyst without Python. There are two examples in the 
Examples/Catalyst subdirectory of the source tree to do that. They are 
CxxVTKPipelineExample and CxxPVSMPipelineExample. I wouldn't recommend this 
method as the Python route is much simpler. Several people have thought about 
avoiding the Python interface and generally come around to its flexibility 
(both ease in creating new Catalyst output as well as making changes without 
having to recompile code).

In my opinion, if you're not doing image output the C++ route is manageable 
without too much difficulty. For image output there's a lot of things which 
need to be set in order to get all the lookup tables, data ranges, camera 
angle, etc. that can get quite complex. If you look at a GUI generated Catalyst 
script for data extract output and compare it to image output you'll easily see 
the difference in the complexity. Also, Cinema output is Python driven so that 
wouldn't be available through a C++ pipeline.

Now that I've gone through all of this, is there a specific reason why you're 
looking to avoid Python?

Best,
Andy

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Dorier, Matthieu 
mailto:mdor...@anl.gov>> wrote:
Hi,

In general the way we create python scripts for a Catalyst-enabled simulation 
is by first running the simulation with a Python script that writes the data 
into files, then do offline analysis on those files and export a python script 
representing the analysis tasks to be done in situ.

I was wondering if, instead of using a Python script for writing all the data 
into file, an equivalent C++ code was available, and how such a code would be 
integrated into a Catalyst-enabled simulation? Or maybe just with VTK once the 
adaptors are written for the simulation's data?

Thanks,

Matthieu

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Re: [Paraview] Catalyst: dump everything in C++

2016-09-21 Thread Lokman Rahmani
Thanks Andy, I was not aware of the examples. 

Best, 
Lokman 
 

- Mail original -

> De: "Andy Bauer" 
> À: "Matthieu Dorier" 
> Cc: "ParaView Mailing List ‎[paraview@paraview.org]‎" 
> Envoyé: Mercredi 21 Septembre 2016 16:25:36
> Objet: Re: [Paraview] Catalyst: dump everything in C++

> Hi Matthieu,

> You can indeed use Catalyst without Python. There are two examples in the
> Examples/Catalyst subdirectory of the source tree to do that. They are
> CxxVTKPipelineExample and CxxPVSMPipelineExample. I wouldn't recommend this
> method as the Python route is much simpler. Several people have thought
> about avoiding the Python interface and generally come around to its
> flexibility (both ease in creating new Catalyst output as well as making
> changes without having to recompile code).

> In my opinion, if you're not doing image output the C++ route is manageable
> without too much difficulty. For image output there's a lot of things which
> need to be set in order to get all the lookup tables, data ranges, camera
> angle, etc. that can get quite complex. If you look at a GUI generated
> Catalyst script for data extract output and compare it to image output
> you'll easily see the difference in the complexity. Also, Cinema output is
> Python driven so that wouldn't be available through a C++ pipeline.

> Now that I've gone through all of this, is there a specific reason why you're
> looking to avoid Python?

> Best,
> Andy

> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Dorier, Matthieu < mdor...@anl.gov > wrote:

> > Hi,
> 

> > In general the way we create python scripts for a Catalyst-enabled
> > simulation
> > is by first running the simulation with a Python script that writes the
> > data
> > into files, then do offline analysis on those files and export a python
> > script representing the analysis tasks to be done in situ.
> 

> > I was wondering if, instead of using a Python script for writing all the
> > data
> > into file, an equivalent C++ code was available, and how such a code would
> > be integrated into a Catalyst-enabled simulation? Or maybe just with VTK
> > once the adaptors are written for the simulation's data?
> 

> > Thanks,
> 

> > Matthieu
> 

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Re: [Paraview] Catalyst: dump everything in C++

2016-09-21 Thread Andy Bauer
Hi Matthieu,

You can indeed use Catalyst without Python. There are two examples in the
Examples/Catalyst subdirectory of the source tree to do that. They are
CxxVTKPipelineExample and CxxPVSMPipelineExample. I wouldn't recommend this
method as the Python route is much simpler. Several people have thought
about avoiding the Python interface and generally come around to its
flexibility (both ease in creating new Catalyst output as well as making
changes without having to recompile code).

In my opinion, if you're not doing image output the C++ route is manageable
without too much difficulty. For image output there's a lot of things which
need to be set in order to get all the lookup tables, data ranges, camera
angle, etc. that can get quite complex. If you look at a GUI generated
Catalyst script for data extract output and compare it to image output
you'll easily see the difference in the complexity. Also, Cinema output is
Python driven so that wouldn't be available through a C++ pipeline.

Now that I've gone through all of this, is there a specific reason why
you're looking to avoid Python?

Best,
Andy

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Dorier, Matthieu  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> In general the way we create python scripts for a Catalyst-enabled
> simulation is by first running the simulation with a Python script that
> writes the data into files, then do offline analysis on those files and
> export a python script representing the analysis tasks to be done in situ.
>
> I was wondering if, instead of using a Python script for writing all the
> data into file, an equivalent C++ code was available, and how such a code
> would be integrated into a Catalyst-enabled simulation? Or maybe just with
> VTK once the adaptors are written for the simulation's data?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matthieu
>
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[Paraview] Catalyst: dump everything in C++

2016-09-21 Thread Dorier, Matthieu
Hi,

In general the way we create python scripts for a Catalyst-enabled simulation 
is by first running the simulation with a Python script that writes the data 
into files, then do offline analysis on those files and export a python script 
representing the analysis tasks to be done in situ.

I was wondering if, instead of using a Python script for writing all the data 
into file, an equivalent C++ code was available, and how such a code would be 
integrated into a Catalyst-enabled simulation? Or maybe just with VTK once the 
adaptors are written for the simulation's data?

Thanks,

Matthieu
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