Re: [Patternfly] Move to Slack

[Andres Galante]

Hi,

The slack channel started last week and it has been active.

If you can't join, please send me your email address and I'll send an
invitation.

Thanks!


On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 8:31 AM, Andres Galante  wrote:

> Ok, let's give this a try :)
>
> I've started a PatternFly slack team here: patternfly.slack.com
>
> Please join and lets see what happens
>
> Also, I've found this bot to log slack: https://github.com/
> AhmadMelegy/Slack-logger-bot
>
> Anyone interested in testing it out?
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Andres Galante 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Patrick,
>>
>> That's a good point, Gitter is a good tool. It's not about the tool,
>> it's about brining the communication channel to the place where the
>> discussion is happening.
>>
>> It's about been more open.
>>
>> The logs might be a concern, but we don't keep logs on our IRC channel
>> anyway :p
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Patrick Riley  wrote:
>>
>>> I'd be OK with moving to Slack and Gitter or solely to Gitter. Gitter
>>> channels can be used independently from Github repos now, do not have the
>>> chat limit history issue, and allow you to create teams now (a huge thanks
>>> to David Halasz for mentioning this). It also helps you frame discussions
>>> more around Github repos/issues when desired (so that's a huge perk for
>>> developers). It looks Gitter supports the same level of "fun" with Giphy
>>> integrations too. There is mobile apps for Gitter too.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/dervondenbergen/giphy-gitter
>>> https://gitter.im/apps
>>>
>>> I have a really hard time tracking IRC, Gitter, Slack, Rocket Chat among
>>> others, and would love to standardize and use less tools to save valuable
>>> CPU cycles.
>>>
>>> My $.02.
>>>
>>> *-Patrick*
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Patternfly] Move to Slack

[Andres Galante]

Thanks Patrick,

That's a good point, Gitter is a good tool. It's not about the tool, it's
about brining the communication channel to the place where the discussion
is happening.

It's about been more open.

The logs might be a concern, but we don't keep logs on our IRC channel
anyway :p




On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Patrick Riley  wrote:

> I'd be OK with moving to Slack and Gitter or solely to Gitter. Gitter
> channels can be used independently from Github repos now, do not have the
> chat limit history issue, and allow you to create teams now (a huge thanks
> to David Halasz for mentioning this). It also helps you frame discussions
> more around Github repos/issues when desired (so that's a huge perk for
> developers). It looks Gitter supports the same level of "fun" with Giphy
> integrations too. There is mobile apps for Gitter too.
>
> https://github.com/dervondenbergen/giphy-gitter
> https://gitter.im/apps
>
> I have a really hard time tracking IRC, Gitter, Slack, Rocket Chat among
> others, and would love to standardize and use less tools to save valuable
> CPU cycles.
>
> My $.02.
>
> *-Patrick*
>
>
>
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Re: [Patternfly] Move to Slack

[Patrick Riley]

I'd be OK with moving to Slack and Gitter or solely to Gitter. Gitter
channels can be used independently from Github repos now, do not have the
chat limit history issue, and allow you to create teams now (a huge thanks
to David Halasz for mentioning this). It also helps you frame discussions
more around Github repos/issues when desired (so that's a huge perk for
developers). It looks Gitter supports the same level of "fun" with Giphy
integrations too. There is mobile apps for Gitter too.

https://github.com/dervondenbergen/giphy-gitter
https://gitter.im/apps

I have a really hard time tracking IRC, Gitter, Slack, Rocket Chat among
others, and would love to standardize and use less tools to save valuable
CPU cycles.

My $.02.

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Re: [Patternfly] Move to Slack

[Andres Galante]

Hi Alex,

PatternFly is a unique community that joins developers and designers.

Designers do not use IRC. Since I love IRC and I believe in the power of
freenode, I did try to push them there. The ones that finally land on IRC
just ignore the channel.

Slack is less scary than IRC :) and many designers are already there. The
core team of designers building PatternFly is on Slack.

I want to bring the communication channel to where the core committers are,
instead of pushing the core committers to use a new tool.

I would like to include the rest of the community to the discussions the
UXD team is already having on Slack, and the only way I can think of doing
that is by moving our communication channel.

if the mountain won't come to Muhammad...

Maybe I am wrong, I know this move is controversial. It's not about Slack
itself, it's about been more open.

I'd like to know if there are other options to solve this problem.

Thank,

Andrés


On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Alexandre Porcelli Bakos <
porce...@redhat.com> wrote:

> Andres,
>
>  What makes you think that by using Slack instead of an IRC channel
> (that, as you mentioned) is usually crowded would improve the
> discussions?
>  I've been on OSS for a while now, I've been part of so many vibrant
> communities... and all in common using the good old IRC.
>
> Regards,
> ---
> Alexandre Porcelli
> Principal Software Engineer
> Red Hat Business Systems and Intelligence Group
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 7:27 AM, Andreas Nilsson 
> wrote:
> > On 2016-09-29 22:17, Andres Galante wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> I want us to move the PatternFly community chat to Slack.
> >>
> >> I feel that even though the IRC channel is usually crowded there is not
> >> enough discussion.
> >>
> >> I love IRC but since the UXD team is on Slack, all of our designers and
> >> most of our developers are on Slack.
> >
> >
> > It would be one more app for me to install and keep open, but if it
> allows
> > for one less client for the rest of you to have open, I'm happy to carry
> the
> > burden. :)
> >
> > PS. This is more of an internal company thing, but I'm happy to join the
> UXD
> > slack channel too, because I'm a bit isolated out here in my department.
> > Totally up for taking that discussion off-list.
> >
> > - Andreas
> >
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Re: [Patternfly] Move to Slack

[Alexandre Porcelli Bakos]

Andres,

 What makes you think that by using Slack instead of an IRC channel
(that, as you mentioned) is usually crowded would improve the
discussions?
 I've been on OSS for a while now, I've been part of so many vibrant
communities... and all in common using the good old IRC.

Regards,
---
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Principal Software Engineer
Red Hat Business Systems and Intelligence Group


On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 7:27 AM, Andreas Nilsson  wrote:
> On 2016-09-29 22:17, Andres Galante wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I want us to move the PatternFly community chat to Slack.
>>
>> I feel that even though the IRC channel is usually crowded there is not
>> enough discussion.
>>
>> I love IRC but since the UXD team is on Slack, all of our designers and
>> most of our developers are on Slack.
>
>
> It would be one more app for me to install and keep open, but if it allows
> for one less client for the rest of you to have open, I'm happy to carry the
> burden. :)
>
> PS. This is more of an internal company thing, but I'm happy to join the UXD
> slack channel too, because I'm a bit isolated out here in my department.
> Totally up for taking that discussion off-list.
>
> - Andreas
>
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Re: [Patternfly] Move to Slack

[Andreas Nilsson]

On 2016-09-29 22:17, Andres Galante wrote:

Hi!

I want us to move the PatternFly community chat to Slack.

I feel that even though the IRC channel is usually crowded there is 
not enough discussion.


I love IRC but since the UXD team is on Slack, all of our designers 
and most of our developers are on Slack.


It would be one more app for me to install and keep open, but if it 
allows for one less client for the rest of you to have open, I'm happy 
to carry the burden. :)


PS. This is more of an internal company thing, but I'm happy to join the 
UXD slack channel too, because I'm a bit isolated out here in my department.

Totally up for taking that discussion off-list.

- Andreas

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Re: [Patternfly] Move to Slack

[Andres Galante]

Yes, that's the down side. You can only do logs on slack with a paid
account.

I'll look into it, maybe they have a plan for oss projects.

On Friday, 30 September 2016, Sarah Rambacher  wrote:

> +1, at the CSS Conf this week, everyone seemed to be using Slack.
> One thought - our team channels lose history after a while because of a
> message limit. Will we be up against the same limit?
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Serena Doyle  > wrote:
>
>> Ah, yes I meant teams.  Thanks Tiffany for sending along the info!
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 29, 2016, Tiffany Nolan > > wrote:
>>
>>> I think Serena is asking about being able to sign in and navigate
>>> between different Slack teams. It's pretty easy to setup and you can
>>> quickly jump between all your teams from the UI. Here's some more info:
>>> https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/201405046-Sig
>>> n-in-to-multiple-Slack-teams
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> *Tiffany Nolan*
>>> Senior Interaction Designer - Developer Experience
>>> UXD Team | Red Hat Westford
>>> tno...@redhat.com
>>>
>>>
>>> *Good design, when it’s done well, becomes invisible. It’s only when
>>> it’s done poorly that we notice it.**– Jared Spool*
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Andres Galante 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Yes, there are people in gitter also.

 I'd like to consolidate everything in slack.

 It would be a new separate team, not a new channel. I don't understand
 your question, what do you mean by integrate multiple channels?

 Bootstrap move to slack is a huge success, brining more designers to
 the discussions and creating a more friendly community than the hardcore
 IRC one.

 Thanks,

 Andres


 On Thursday, 29 September 2016, Serena Doyle  wrote:

> Andres,  Aren't a lot of people using gitter as well?
>
> Per slack, if that's done, I'm assuming that would be another Slack
> channel.  How easy/hard is the integration of multiple slack channels?
>
> Thanks,
> - Serena
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Andres Galante 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I want us to move the PatternFly community chat to Slack.
>>
>> I feel that even though the IRC channel is usually crowded there is
>> not enough discussion.
>>
>> I love IRC but since the UXD team is on Slack, all of our designers
>> and most of our developers are on Slack.
>>
>> By doing that move we would be taking discussion where people are
>> enabling more transparent and active discussions.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
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Re: [Patternfly] Move to Slack

[Sarah Rambacher]

+1, at the CSS Conf this week, everyone seemed to be using Slack.
One thought - our team channels lose history after a while because of a
message limit. Will we be up against the same limit?

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Serena Doyle  wrote:

> Ah, yes I meant teams.  Thanks Tiffany for sending along the info!
>
>
> On Thursday, September 29, 2016, Tiffany Nolan  wrote:
>
>> I think Serena is asking about being able to sign in and navigate between
>> different Slack teams. It's pretty easy to setup and you can quickly jump
>> between all your teams from the UI. Here's some more info:
>> https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/201405046-Sig
>> n-in-to-multiple-Slack-teams
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> *Tiffany Nolan*
>> Senior Interaction Designer - Developer Experience
>> UXD Team | Red Hat Westford
>> tno...@redhat.com
>>
>>
>> *Good design, when it’s done well, becomes invisible. It’s only when it’s
>> done poorly that we notice it.**– Jared Spool*
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Andres Galante 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, there are people in gitter also.
>>>
>>> I'd like to consolidate everything in slack.
>>>
>>> It would be a new separate team, not a new channel. I don't understand
>>> your question, what do you mean by integrate multiple channels?
>>>
>>> Bootstrap move to slack is a huge success, brining more designers to the
>>> discussions and creating a more friendly community than the hardcore IRC
>>> one.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Andres
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 29 September 2016, Serena Doyle  wrote:
>>>
 Andres,  Aren't a lot of people using gitter as well?

 Per slack, if that's done, I'm assuming that would be another Slack
 channel.  How easy/hard is the integration of multiple slack channels?

 Thanks,
 - Serena

 On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Andres Galante 
 wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I want us to move the PatternFly community chat to Slack.
>
> I feel that even though the IRC channel is usually crowded there is
> not enough discussion.
>
> I love IRC but since the UXD team is on Slack, all of our designers
> and most of our developers are on Slack.
>
> By doing that move we would be taking discussion where people are
> enabling more transparent and active discussions.
>
> What do you think?
>
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Re: [Patternfly] Move to Slack

[Serena Doyle]

Ah, yes I meant teams.  Thanks Tiffany for sending along the info!

On Thursday, September 29, 2016, Tiffany Nolan  wrote:

> I think Serena is asking about being able to sign in and navigate between
> different Slack teams. It's pretty easy to setup and you can quickly jump
> between all your teams from the UI. Here's some more info:
> https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/201405046-
> Sign-in-to-multiple-Slack-teams
>
> Kind regards,
>
> *Tiffany Nolan*
> Senior Interaction Designer - Developer Experience
> UXD Team | Red Hat Westford
> tno...@redhat.com 
>
>
> *Good design, when it’s done well, becomes invisible. It’s only when it’s
> done poorly that we notice it.**– Jared Spool*
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Andres Galante  > wrote:
>
>> Yes, there are people in gitter also.
>>
>> I'd like to consolidate everything in slack.
>>
>> It would be a new separate team, not a new channel. I don't understand
>> your question, what do you mean by integrate multiple channels?
>>
>> Bootstrap move to slack is a huge success, brining more designers to the
>> discussions and creating a more friendly community than the hardcore IRC
>> one.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andres
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 29 September 2016, Serena Doyle > > wrote:
>>
>>> Andres,  Aren't a lot of people using gitter as well?
>>>
>>> Per slack, if that's done, I'm assuming that would be another Slack
>>> channel.  How easy/hard is the integration of multiple slack channels?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> - Serena
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Andres Galante 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi!

 I want us to move the PatternFly community chat to Slack.

 I feel that even though the IRC channel is usually crowded there is not
 enough discussion.

 I love IRC but since the UXD team is on Slack, all of our designers and
 most of our developers are on Slack.

 By doing that move we would be taking discussion where people are
 enabling more transparent and active discussions.

 What do you think?

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>>>
>>>
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Re: [Patternfly] Move to Slack

[Tiffany Nolan]

I think Serena is asking about being able to sign in and navigate between
different Slack teams. It's pretty easy to setup and you can quickly jump
between all your teams from the UI. Here's some more info:
https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/201405046-Sign-in-to-multiple-Slack-teams


Kind regards,

*Tiffany Nolan*
Senior Interaction Designer - Developer Experience
UXD Team | Red Hat Westford
tno...@redhat.com


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done poorly that we notice it.**– Jared Spool*

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Andres Galante  wrote:

> Yes, there are people in gitter also.
>
> I'd like to consolidate everything in slack.
>
> It would be a new separate team, not a new channel. I don't understand
> your question, what do you mean by integrate multiple channels?
>
> Bootstrap move to slack is a huge success, brining more designers to the
> discussions and creating a more friendly community than the hardcore IRC
> one.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andres
>
>
> On Thursday, 29 September 2016, Serena Doyle  wrote:
>
>> Andres,  Aren't a lot of people using gitter as well?
>>
>> Per slack, if that's done, I'm assuming that would be another Slack
>> channel.  How easy/hard is the integration of multiple slack channels?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> - Serena
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Andres Galante 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> I want us to move the PatternFly community chat to Slack.
>>>
>>> I feel that even though the IRC channel is usually crowded there is not
>>> enough discussion.
>>>
>>> I love IRC but since the UXD team is on Slack, all of our designers and
>>> most of our developers are on Slack.
>>>
>>> By doing that move we would be taking discussion where people are
>>> enabling more transparent and active discussions.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> ___
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>>
>>
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>> *Red Hat*
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Re: [Patternfly] Move to Slack

[Serena Doyle]

Andres,  Aren't a lot of people using gitter as well?

Per slack, if that's done, I'm assuming that would be another Slack
channel.  How easy/hard is the integration of multiple slack channels?

Thanks,
- Serena

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Andres Galante  wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I want us to move the PatternFly community chat to Slack.
>
> I feel that even though the IRC channel is usually crowded there is not
> enough discussion.
>
> I love IRC but since the UXD team is on Slack, all of our designers and
> most of our developers are on Slack.
>
> By doing that move we would be taking discussion where people are enabling
> more transparent and active discussions.
>
> What do you think?
>
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