Subject: RE: PAYCO REPLY TO COMRADE CONGRESS MAHLANGU [Fwd: Mayihlome Annual
Lecture must be attended!]
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 13:03:22 +0200
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PAYCO leadership,
I clearly understand your point of view in respect to the PAYCO programme and
once more thank you very much for your indulgence. In my good conscience I
believe that you mean well for the party and that cannot be taken away. I think
the point of divergence will relate to the extent to which we look at our
strategy and tactic in current political disjuncture.
Without going into merits and demerits of the PAYCO programme it is important
to say the following; that you have my undying support for every initiative
that seeks to advance the party. Although, I will not be in the position to
attend your weekend programme, owing to my family bereavement, but will make a
follow-up and share my views as to how PAYCO can claim its past glory.
PAYCO remains a livewire of the PAC and indeed an incubator of the azanian
struggle. As I have said, your sincerity and the passion you have shown for
this movement remains unadulterated and for sure you can bank on my support.
Izwe lethu
Congress
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Subject: FW: PAYCO REPLY TO COMRADE CONGRESS MAHLANGU [Fwd: Mayihlome Annual
Lecture must be attended!]
> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 07:34:21 +0200
> Subject: [PAYCO] [Fwd: Mayihlome Annual Lecture must be attended!]
> From: kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za
> To: payco@googlegroups.com; paycoofaza...@gmail.com
>
> ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
> Subject: Mayihlome Annual Lecture must be attended!
> From: "Linda Ndebele" <lin...@fin.co.za>
> Date: Wed, May 27, 2009 08:31
> To: kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za
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>
> Umhlaba,
>
> I respond to cde Congress Mahlangu's contribution of 25 May 2009. PAYCO
> appreciates the contribution ,especially the suggestions made. We also
> acknowledge the constructive criticism made. This contribution reflects
> what should be done by all who seek to enrich and nourish the culture of
> debate within the party and its structures. Despite all the good things
> reflected on the contribution allow me to analyse and correct some
> misconceptions that may be damaging to PAYCO and mislead those who are
> observing our activities from a distance:
>
>
> Leadership decline and decay
>
> As much as I agree with you that there is a leadership decline and decay
> in the party,but I reject the generalisation that is not founded on
> scientific and statistical analysis. If your analysis are true, then
> probably those who are saying the PAC must close shop are correct as the
> party has no leadership and has no prospects of producing leaders in the
> near future. In our analysis the party still has leaders in all fronts,but
> the party has no leadership development programmes. The party lacks
> ideological cohesion which affects its leadership as well. Party
> leadership is not properly supported with resources other support systems
> to be able to deliver. The biggest dilemma of the party is lack of a
> national Programme of action that would unite party structures and leaders
> to a common goal. Lastly we lack a national leader with a
> vision,conviction and ideologically grounded who'll marshall all forces to
> our ultimate objectives,similar role played by Lembede and Sobukwe in the
> 40's and 60's respectively. cde Congress it is taxing to be a leader in
> the PAC. It tax you financially,emotionally,physically,mentally and
> spiritually,therefore its not a childs play to lead in the PAC structure.
> This unsavoury state of affairs is not limited to National Leadership, its
> even worse with lower structures. I have led party structures from
> branches,regions and party components and understand the difficulty of
> running a structure without a cent from the party,hence I am sensitive
> when people criticise without considering these critical factors and spare
> those who continue to plunge the party into crisis.
>
> As PAYCO we acknowledge that we have not perfomed excellently over the
> years,but comparing PAYCO to PAC is an insult to say the least. PAYCO has
> tried everything possible to keep the party afloat,especially on
> ideological standing. When the party was confused on the question of
> co-operating with the ANC, we boldy came out and rejected the idea and
> forced those who were holding cladestine meetings with the ruling party to
> cease their devious actions. We were the first and the last to state
> openly our support of President Mugabe and his Land Reform Programmes when
> the party was singing liberal tunes(human rights violations). We have been
> clear on our support for the creation of the United States of Africa,when
> some amongst us believed it was too early(a language so alien in our
> vocabulary where unity of Africa is concerned). PAYCO continued to partake
> in different levels of youth of politics and general politics. In PAYCO we
> are pure politicians,therefore we don't want to be channelled to youth
> politics,when the political arena is so wide.
>
> Since I started my political activities in 1991 I have not met youth
> leaders who are selfless like PAYCO leadership. It is unfortunate that
> party members judge the perfomance of PAYCO on its perfomance against
> youth structures than its general perfomance within the party and outside
> the party. The analysis on PAYCO's perfomance is flopsides as it negates
> the dephts and challenges PAYCO struggles against within the party before
> it confronts its real mandate outside the party. Everytime as PAYCO we
> engage with the world outside PAC we have to explain our legitimacy,of
> late we are forced to do so when we interact with party structures. As
> PAYCO we have to make personal sacrifices to keep the movement going.
> Personally I don"t like to brag as I regard it as an act of stupidity and
> counter revolutionary,but allow me to reveal that PAYCO leaders run PAYCO
> from our pockets. All National meetings we attend and visits we make on
> different areas is funded by us as individuals. We often make sacrifices
> by utilizing our leave days to attend SAYC meetings and other National
> youth meetings that are held during week days when we are suppose to be
> working in our workplaces. We make all these sacrifices 'cause we
> understand it is our historic duty to do so,but the least we can expect
> from our comrades is to recognise our little contribution not to insult
> all our efforts as counting to zero.
>
> We also believe our efforts and potential has been undermined and
> overshadowed by the failures and the crisis in the motherbody,the PAC. Any
> analysis that does not consider this fact is founded on absurdity.No sane
> political thinker and analyst can expect PAYCO to perfome miracles when
> the motherbody is dwingling and facing political uncertainty. PAYCO is
> intergrated and interwoven to the PAC,it is by no means independent from
> the PAC or a partner to the PAC(Who can decide to divorce the PAC when
> relations turn ugly)PAYCO is stucked with the PAC in good or bad moments.
> It is therefore illogical to think that PAYCO was not to be affected by
> the goings-on in the party.
>
> I personally don't believe that PAYCO lacks leadership as such,but think
> PAYCO leadership needs to be capacitated to be ready to take leadership at
> any level of the party. I also believe the party should create support
> structures for leadership as a whole in all levels. Let the party develop
> a leadership development programme,that would also help our leaders with
> ideological understanding. At this juncture almost all PAC leaders are
> self-made men and women. It is unfortunate that we are blamed for lack of
> leadership skills,whilst in the capitalist world our skills are used to
> maximise profits,state institutions utilize our skills to deliver services
> effectively and efficiently and when we want to utilize these skills to
> build and streghten our struggle for emancipation we are mocked and
> discouranged. Let me caution all in the party that we should stop driving
> dedicated and industrious comrades away from the party with our
> fundamentalism and factional tendencies that has no place in any
> revolution. We need all kinds of people who want to create an Africanist
> driven Socialist society in our movement including elites and the rural
> poor.
>
> PAYCO remains committed to the cause of the PAC in words and deeds. We
> have kept PAYCO and the Party afloat against all odds. We have
> participated in all efforts aimed at party building. We have interacted
> with everyone within the party 'cause we believe the party can benefit
> from each and everyone of us if we work for a united common objective. cde
> Congress I admit that we may have failed in certain task,but comparing us
> to PAC leadership is streching the mark too far,and I object to it with
> contempt.
>
> National Presence
>
> With correct tools of political analysis you would realise that it was
> highly impossible for PAYCO to occopy any serious political space in the
> South African political arena in the last five years,since the national
> psche of bour people had been conditioned and enticed with the ruling
> party's internal power struggles. The media was embedded with the Mbeki
> camp or the Zuma camp. Almost all political parties were relegated to none
> entities. In youth politics only ANCYL and YCL were given prominence as
> they were anti-Mbeki. All their campaigns were given prominence and
> national status as they were anti-Mbeki. During this period even statutory
> bodies like SAYC,Umsobomvu and NYC did not get any prominence,hence very
> few young people know anything about the new National Youth Development
> Agency. Despite these challenges PAYCO has participated and expressed
> itself on all pressing National issues. I agree that our national presence
> is not at its best,it needs serious attention.
>
> It should be noted as well that our participation on political activities
> is adhoc,as we spend the better part of our time on our paying jobs and
> start participating in politics after work or during weekends, in contrast
> to our rivals who spend all their working days and weekends on politics as
> they are employed full time to do political work. This factor is so
> important as it determines our effectiveness to respond timeously on
> urgent political issues as they happen. PAYCO has no office or a full-time
> office bearer,this is the handicap.
>
> Under normal circumstances the motherbody is suppose to create political
> space for its structure at a national level as it represent us in all
> National Platforms,but this is not happening currently. Problems within
> the party also affect our national standing. The leadership shenannigans
> in the PAC affect PAYCO's national presence. The existence of the so
> called PAC youth league has affected PAYCO national standing as well. Lack
> of financial means have also crippled some of our plans that might have
> given us national prominence.Remember its programmes not media statements
> that make a lasting impact on the minds of our people about a party and
> its activities.
>
> On the National Election Strategy,let me admit that we did not develop one
> as we resolved not to partake on the General Elections 2009. We resolved
> to abstain so as to prepare the party for the rebuilding and repositioning
> process. We would partake in the process of developing one for 2011 Local
> Elections and 2014 General Elections as we believe the party would have
> been saved from Mphahlele and his verandah boys. Let me hasten to state
> that we don't regret the decision we have taken in this regard.
>
> Mayihlome Annual Lecture
>
> I don't share your persimistic view on the upcoming Mayihlome Annual
> Lecture. The Mayihlome Annual Lecture seeks to serve the following
> purposes:
> 1.. To create a platform for Pan Africanist to interact and Network 2..
> To trigger debate on how best to rebuild and streghten PAC
> 3.. To Launch PAYCO IOTA Programme of Action
> 4.. To celebrate Africa Month
> 5.. To register PAYCO's attitude on National,Continental and Global
> developments 6.. To unite all progressive forces
> The event is not the National Conference or National Consultative Fora but
> an event to trigger action from different members and structures of the
> party. I am personally convinced that this platform is critical. We should
> desist from a dogmatic view,that PAC answers would always be found on
> Conferences and Congresses. We should explore other creative means to get
> the party going. At one stage answers to party problems were found in a
> National Convention,a non-constitutional structure in the PAC. I believe
> all of us we should attend the Mayihlome Annual Lecture and make it
> succeed and work.
>
> I am sceptical to the idea of having Africanist scholars to make a keynote
> address,history has taught us that Africanist scholars are good in
> identifying problems and are not prepared to play their part in
> identifying solutions and in participating in the actual implementation of
> the plan of action. The majority of them are fence sitters and pretend
> that nothing wrong is happening. We prefer people who are fighting these
> battles with us on day to day basis. Ofcourse let me state that in future
> they would play a major role in all subsequent Mayihlome Annual Lectures.
> On the crowd puller,I object to this populist view. We should always
> strive to make the party bigger than any individual. We should avoid
> populist highjacking the party and its programme. Lets guard against
> personality cult, it causes collossal damage to the unity and cohesion of
> the party.
>
> cde Congress in PAYCO we are pleased by your support and contributions in
> building our revolutionary party. We continue to be inspired and motivated
> by leaders of your calibre and conviction. We promise to consider your
> suggestions and to consult you consistently in our march to build a strong
> PAC ready to govern.
>
> Yours in socialist revolution
>
> Linda Kwame Ndebele
> PAYCO Secretary General
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> Tel.0343287688
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