Re: [PAYCO] Quo Vadis PAC
Revolutionary greetings cry Izwe Lethu This is there most progressive important statement from comrade Sebenzile you have cross the breach before many of us to see what will the future hold when comrades think of the 20 years in vain of sacrifice building an organisation without making any significant inroads. That shows wheel of progress after so many years. It will be regrettable if ideas will be suffocated for another 20 years proposals of this nature which shows maturity to advance Pan Africanism must be engaged not criticised without looking back what has happened and what will be the future. I await for such ideas to be realised to give meaning to the current epoch of our struggle. On Friday, January 30, 2015, Sebenzile Mlaza sebenzi...@raf.co.za wrote: Revolutionary greetings to all, We've been too obsessed with self-congratulatory stances for too long and yet the PAC has been slowly evaporating itself into total oblivion from the political radar. And we further kept on blaming the ANC and a ridiculously distant force like the CIA for our mishaps. I personally believe it is time to wake up and face the bitter truth. PAC is in a comatose state for an indefinite period of time, surely this is an indictment on the methods we've applied to advance and articulate the core objectives Pan Africanism and in executing our revolutionary task as Africanists. PAC has simply been rendered incapable to execute its own mandate by some faceless political thugs. I don't see how will we ever manage to salvage the party from this unbearable situation. The stooges and unscrupulous characters at the helm of the party who have been largely accountable to their many faceless cliques have not helped the situation at all. The party has been in this state of affairs for far too long. Nothing that should have been done has not been done, instead the party has alienated most if not all of its best cadres and intellectuals alike. The ambience has changed in the country so a new strategy has to be adopted in order to remain relevant in this organic political milieu than for us to appear to be led by a jamboree of masochistic gamins who suffer from political narcolepsy. For Pete's sake, we all know that the PAC has been precocious from its conception to its inception, I am curious to know what really happened in exile, but that is a subject that will probably not take us anywhere. Yesterday's politics were primarily driven by activism and valour, now it's no longer that. The party is faced with a different animal, it's called parliamentary politics. Unlike before, this behemoth needs prowess, vision and acumen We've sacrificed a lot to be bamboozled by these self-serving lackeys at the helm of the party masquerading as lecturers on the theory and practice of Pan Africanism. It is high time that we should rethink our effectiveness under the tutelage of the now defunct PAC (it feels like we are trying to suffocate the dead), by focussing our energies on finding a new political home that will be capable of pursuing an Africanist agenda without fear of political, ideological and philosophical contradictions emanating from anyone at any quarters. I do not mean a splinter group like APC or PAM, but a new political home to pursue an Africanist agenda that will not be hindered by the exile conflict in executing the core objectives of Africanism. Indeed quo vadis PAC?? Inexactitudes not intended … apologies in advance!!! Izwe lethu iAfrika!!! -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','payco@googlegroups.com'); Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','payco%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com');. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [PAYCO] Quo Vadis PAC
Revolutionary greetings cry Izwe Lethu This is there most progressive important statement from comrade Sebenzile you have cross the breach before many of us to see what will the future hold when comrades think of the 20 years in vain of sacrifice building an organisation without making any significant inroads. That shows wheel of progress after so many years. It will be regrettable if ideas will be suffocated for another 20 years proposals of this nature which shows maturity to advance Pan Africanism must be engaged not criticised without looking back what has happened and what will be the future. I await for such ideas to be realised to give meaning to the current epoch of our struggle. On Friday, January 30, 2015, Sebenzile Mlaza sebenzi...@raf.co.za wrote: Revolutionary greetings to all, We've been too obsessed with self-congratulatory stances for too long and yet the PAC has been slowly evaporating itself into total oblivion from the political radar. And we further kept on blaming the ANC and a ridiculously distant force like the CIA for our mishaps. I personally believe it is time to wake up and face the bitter truth. PAC is in a comatose state for an indefinite period of time, surely this is an indictment on the methods we've applied to advance and articulate the core objectives Pan Africanism and in executing our revolutionary task as Africanists. PAC has simply been rendered incapable to execute its own mandate by some faceless political thugs. I don't see how will we ever manage to salvage the party from this unbearable situation. The stooges and unscrupulous characters at the helm of the party who have been largely accountable to their many faceless cliques have not helped the situation at all. The party has been in this state of affairs for far too long. Nothing that should have been done has not been done, instead the party has alienated most if not all of its best cadres and intellectuals alike. The ambience has changed in the country so a new strategy has to be adopted in order to remain relevant in this organic political milieu than for us to appear to be led by a jamboree of masochistic gamins who suffer from political narcolepsy. For Pete's sake, we all know that the PAC has been precocious from its conception to its inception, I am curious to know what really happened in exile, but that is a subject that will probably not take us anywhere. Yesterday's politics were primarily driven by activism and valour, now it's no longer that. The party is faced with a different animal, it's called parliamentary politics. Unlike before, this behemoth needs prowess, vision and acumen We've sacrificed a lot to be bamboozled by these self-serving lackeys at the helm of the party masquerading as lecturers on the theory and practice of Pan Africanism. It is high time that we should rethink our effectiveness under the tutelage of the now defunct PAC (it feels like we are trying to suffocate the dead), by focussing our energies on finding a new political home that will be capable of pursuing an Africanist agenda without fear of political, ideological and philosophical contradictions emanating from anyone at any quarters. I do not mean a splinter group like APC or PAM, but a new political home to pursue an Africanist agenda that will not be hindered by the exile conflict in executing the core objectives of Africanism. Indeed quo vadis PAC?? Inexactitudes not intended … apologies in advance!!! Izwe lethu iAfrika!!! -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','payco@googlegroups.com'); Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','payco%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com');. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [PAYCO] UPDATE ON CDE WANDI MONTJANE'S MEMORIAL SERVICES AND FUNERAL.
Thanks Vusi for the update info. Sent from my iPhone On 11 Aug 2014, at 6:12 PM, Vusi Mahlangu vemahla...@gmail.com wrote: UPDATE ON COMRADE WANDI MONTJANE’S MEMORIAL SERVICES AND FUNERAL: The memorial services are scheduled as follows: 1. Mfanasekhaya Gqobose PAC Region will held its memorial service as follows: · Venue: Uitenhage, Jeff Masemola Hall. · Time: 14:00 · Date: 12 August 2014 (Tuesday). 2. Tshwane Metropolitan Municipality Memorial Services is scheduled as follows: · Venue: Library hall (Sammy Marks Square). · Time: 09:00 · Date: 13 August 2014 (Wednesday). 3. PAC Tshwane Region Memorial Services is scheduled as follows: · Venue: Au Raad Saal – Church Square (Subject to change). · Time: 12h00 for 13h00. · Date: 14 August 2014 (Thursday). Please note that the comrade will be given a state funeral and it is scheduled to be held as follows: · Venue: GaMphahlele, Mashite Village Limpopo Province. · Date: 16 August 2014 (Saturday). NB: Transport is being organised (not yet final) for comrades around Tshwane and interested cadres are urged to send their details before midday on Tuesday (12 Aug. 2014). Comrades who are employed are urged to organize their own transport and accommodate unemployed Africanists. For more information contact me at 0725001455 or Mphiri Masoga 0731822656 -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[PAYCO] Very interesting what now NACTU purport .
Nactu backs EFF, PAC in 2014 elections Published: Today, 3:54 PM Source: SAPA [image: Big image] (Picture: Sapa) Johannesburg - The National Council of Trade Unions (Nactu) has resolved to support the PAC and EFF in this year's general election, the trade union federation said on Monday. Nactu had invited political parties to present their 2014 manifestos to the federation's central committee on 18 March, general secretary Narius Moloto said in a statement. The parties which attended were the Azanian People's Organisation, the Pan Africanist Congress (PAC), the United Democratic Movement and the Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF). Nactu held a central committee meeting on Sunday in Johannesburg where the decision to support the two parties was taken. Nactu resolved to endorse the manifestos of the PAC and EFF as those were rooted in the interests of the workers, Moloto said. The central committee meeting... further resolved that Nactu shop stewards will volunteer their time to the PAC and EFF as party agents where necessary and engage in campaign activities to recruit voters for these two parties. The trade union federation's affiliates, which includes the Association of Mineworkers and Construction Union, would communicate the decision to their members and encourage them to participate and campaign as well. We implore all our members to use their vote wisely and vote the PAC or EFF based on their individual choices, said Moloto. -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [PAYCO] PAC election Flyers
Cadre Vusi is it you crafted the PAC message for the PAC? This is a simple message that the PAC is pushing since there Africanist are the proponents and exponents of LAND issue in Azania. On Friday, March 28, 2014, vusie vu...@telkomsa.net wrote: Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by *Pinpoint Securemail*, and is believed to be clean. -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','payco@googlegroups.com'); Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','payco%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [PAYCO] Leaderless
Workers are been taken for a ride where NUM agreed to 13% wage increase in a mean while BCAWU accept meagre wage offer on the table that is madness absurdity of the highest order. This betrayal can't continue for long BCAWU one man union must cease to fight for workers since it does the opposite deliberately or those who lead must do the honorable thing and resign or workers will compel them to resign forcefully. On 11/1/13, Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com wrote: Some days After, the courage of unions like AMCU and NUM to fight must be commended as opposed to lame duck BCAWU and other yellow trades unions. But also we have learnt that an employer who is also a shareholder will not be an honest leaders to African Workers:- *A 3 week strike in the construction industry comes to an end * by FSP Invest http://fspinvest.co.za/tags/fsp-invest/, 13 September 2013 *After workers downed tool three weeks ago, a new wage deal brings the strike to an end. Earlier today, the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) said that the strike was over. Let's take a closer look at the wage deal between the union and the construction industry…* Earlier today, the NUM said that “it had agreed to a deal for wage hikes of up to 12%,” reports *Fin24*http://www.fin24.com/Economy/Construction-strike-ends-20130913-3. This deal with the construction industry brings the three week strike to an end. Ten days ago, one of the unions involved in the strike action came to an agreement with construction firms.http://fspinvest.co.za/articles/south-africa/some-of-the-construction-sectors-woes-are-over-as-one-union-accepts-wage-offer-1456.html The Building Construction and Allied Workers’ Union (BCAWU) agreed to an increase of between 8% and 10% with construction companies, notes *IOL*http://www.iol.co.za/business/companies/construction-strike-ends-1.1577181#.UjLalz9-E1I. But the NUM rejected this offer. *The new deal struck by the NUM benefits BCAWU members too* NUM spokesman Lesiba Seshoka says that “all workers in the sector would receive the higher increase” that the NUM negotiated, adds *IOL*http://www.iol.co.za/business/companies/construction-strike-ends-1.1577181#.UjLalz9-E1I . The new deal, which affects 90,000 workers, is “almost double the country’s inflation http://resourcesandscarcity2.fspsecure.co.za/ rate,” reports * Bloomberg*http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-13/south-africa-construction-strike-ends-after-12-wage-increase.html. The new deal led to the strike ending yesterday. Despite the strike lasting for three weeks, it “appeared to have a relatively small impact,” says *Fin24*http://www.fin24.com/Economy/Construction-strike-ends-20130913-3. With many workers refusing to strike, “many building sites” remained active. Other strikes had much bigger effects on their related industries. Strikes by “workers in the motor and gold http://fspinvest.co.za/content/rsrwfptlindustries… crippled operations at some of the country’s biggest producers,” adds *Fin24*http://www.fin24.com/Economy/Construction-strike-ends-20130913-3 . Workers in the vehicle manufacturing sector returned to work on Mondayhttp://fspinvest.co.za/articles/south-africa/the-bulk-of-car-workers-return-to-work-as-strike-action-ends-1495.htmlafter agreeing a new wage deal. Gold mines were also back to productionhttp://fspinvest.co.za/articles/latest-news/the-strike-in-the-gold-mining-sector-appears-to-be-nearing-an-end-1488.htmlafter three out of four unions accepted a new wage offer. Hopefully unions and companies involved will agree to new wage deals to end the rest of the strike action plaguing SA soon. Author: *FSP Invest* http://fspinvest.co.za/tags/fsp-invest/ On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.comwrote: *Some of the construction sector's woes are over as one union accepts wage offer * by FSP Invest http://fspinvest.co.za/tags/fsp-invest/, 03 September 2013 *Earlier today, it emerged that one of the unions involved in the construction sector has accepted a wage deal. The Building Construction and Allied Workers' Union (BCAWU) have agreed to a wage hike of between 8% and 10%. Let's take a closer look at what's happening with the strike in the construction sector…* Earlier today, the SA Federation of Civil Engineering Contractors (SAFCEC) said that one of the unions had “accepted the latest wage offer,” reports *Fin24*http://www.fin24.com/Economy/South-Africa/Union-accepts-construction-wage-deal-20130903. The Building Construction and Allied Workers’ Union (BCAWU) agreed to a “10% wage increase for categories task grade one until four and an 8% increase for categories task grade five until nine”. The wage deal will be in place until the end of August 2016, notes * MoneyWeb*http://www.moneyweb.co.za/moneyweb-south-africa/construction-union-accepts-wage-deal--safcec . Narius Moloto, general secretary for the BCAWU, says
Re: [PAYCO] 5th - 8th December/ 2013 Summer Political School
Greetings Ma-Afrika this is a good initiative which I see it growing with time. I want to suggest that how about your sessions be also be captured on a video to reach many who won't be able to come but will be able to purchase your video dvd! Yours in pursue of a socialist state On 11/20/13, Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com wrote: Greeting Sons and Daughters of Africa School for Pan Africanist Thought will be hosting the 2013 Summer Political School on Pan Africanism, African Revolution and many other related key ideological areas. We invite any interested Pan Africanist, members and leaders interested to attend and should complete the attached Registration Form. Participants who will require accommodation should complete the attached form and deposit accommodation plus meals contributions in the account number provided. Attached also find the Draft Programme of the 2013 Summer Political School. We plan to host the same event next 2014, that is, a winter political school around June or July and later a Summer Political School in November or December. For any details please do not hesitate to contact either M'Afrika Ntsie Mohloai - 073 236 4780 or M'Afrika Vusi Mahlangu - 072 5001455 or M'Afrika Dumisani Zwane - 072 078 7539 Shango lashu Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi 074 922 6361 -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [PAYCO] Kgalabi Masemola's Grave
This is a reflection the PAC is unto I wonder why the PAC is no longer been taken serious by the majority of Azanian people there is no longer good things about the party that is so excellent about it. Sharpville commemoration\Langa it is a disaster year in out it, the Pan Africanist Congress of Azania is eroding itself memory and its rich history that maintain its human and spiritual sacrifices, service and sufferings of its heroine and heroes. On 10/30/13, Xola tyamza...@yahoo.com wrote: Cde Themba We will do as soon as we can gather Africanists (esp from around Tshwane), a record of the cash deposit (and the money) you made is still available with a register of all the comrades who contributed. Regards XGT Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: baliwin...@yahoo.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 08:51:36 To: payco@googlegroups.compayco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Kgalabi Masemola's Grave Cde XGT Son of the Soil pls help out here. After we had contributed and collected money from a number of Africanists for the tomb stones, you presented a story to the effect that a tar road was built on the grave hence we could not continue with the tomb stone. Who is supposed to clear that with cdes now that it has come to light that the story was untrue. Can someone amongst you(organizers) of the failed tomb stone erection come forward and explain what happened to the money. I'm calling on your help son because each time I meet the cdes I M confronted with this question especially since this posting that shows that what was said to us was incorrect and a perception is or might be created that I chowed the money. Sent from my iPhone On 30 Oct 2013, at 6:09 AM, Xola tyamza...@yahoo.com wrote: Izwe lethu! Attached herewith is a photo of the grave of MmAfrika Jafta Masemola, the longest serving political prisoner in Robben Island. What are we, as Africanists, prepared to do about the situation of this leader's grave, who passed on, on the 17th April 1990? Lefatshe la rona Xola Tyamzashe Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. IMG-20131029-WA007.jpg -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [PAYCO] Leaderless
Revolutionary Greetings! Our PAC has been sold to the highest bidder the current top six is as useless as the previous one. People who should be clapping hands are running PAC. I feel ashamed to be led by people who have no vision, direction and ideological clarity! On 3/6/13, maqhina...@gmail.com maqhina...@gmail.com wrote: Ma-Afrika The response of M-Afrika Narius to M-Afrika Makhanya is a clear indication of lack in leadership of a political Commander. Utterances like that really dented the image of the Africanist fraternity. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Walter Molapo mola...@eskom.co.za Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 14:53:11 To: payco@googlegroups.compayco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Leaderless Narius's response and comments on this platform are very louzy. I now find sense in what other comrades are say, that the standard in the PAC has been lowered to the extend that we are let by abo Narius. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Narius Moloto g...@bcawu.co.za Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 16:00:53 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Leaderless Give substance for your suggestion mr makhanya.have you now replaced pac branches and congress?pac leaders are elected and removed my the membersof the party in goodstanding at the cogress.agents of destruction who get their mandate from the enemies of the pac totaly disregard the constitutional provision of the pac.you don't have the standing to make such a call. Regards, Narius Moloto General Secretary BCAWU Tel: 011 333 0881 Fax: 086 520 0413 E-mail: g...@bcawu.co.za -Original Message- From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jabumakha...@yahoo.com Sent: 06 March 2013 02:14 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: [PAYCO] Leaderle It has always been to the expectations that the PAC NEC would from time-to-time re-act to developing events both local and international but to the emb arassment of the PAC members the party remains leaderless. Of lately, Hugo Chavez is no more, Marikana and farms strikes swept the country, e-tolls debacle is causing headache, fuel-price hikes which can be subsidized is reaping havoc. The so called party leaders are comfortably silent. Which other tools do they need to steer the masses. Letlapa Mphahlele appears to be a walking dead-man, his SG, Narius Moloto is obssessed with power working for more than three organisation as the secretary-general, this is madness. He cannot issue at least a three-lines media statement re-affirm ing PAC policies. With the exception of other NEC members who are trying to save the PAC, the entire top-six must step aside, they're completely useless for the party progress. They 've to recall that they enforced Butterworth congress and they contested their current positions willingly and knowingly about challenges ahead. They have sold out, let them go! Jabu -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. I'm part of the 49Million initiative. http://www.49Million.co.za NB: This Email and its contents are subject to the Eskom Holdings Limited EMAIL LEGAL NOTICE which can be viewed at http://www.eskom.co.za/e-mail_legalnotice -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit
Re: [PAYCO] Fwd: Fw: PAC Joburg will join the march
Comrade lack of party/payco policy on energy is creating a vacuum in propagatin' our position. I wil suggest to those cadres who have been invited to ask themselves question what will payco achieve in this regard? As i don't believe that payco should partake in this march we've nothing to gain. On 11/6/12, linda ndebele kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za wrote: There's no policy position I know on this issue in the PAC. When you partake as PAYCO or PAC it should be founded on policy position of the party, when we represent the party in different platforms in reality we advance party policy position not ourselves and our individual views. We need to look at the pros cons of the issue not mere excitement. Mandela made the decision to stop nuclear proliferation in SA out of excitement and to please the outside world, the consequences had devastating effects to the poor and working class in the form of exorbitant electricity prices and billions wasted maintaining nuclear infrastructure that no longer service society. I believe PAC government with its industrial strategy founded on fast-tracking economic emancipation and massive industrialization we cannot afford to dismiss nuclear energy completely. Of course we should also make radical steps to move to environmentally friendly renewable energy but we can't perform miracles, western powers who are major polluters must lead the way, they can't have it both ways, proponents of renewable energy and keep nuclear energy. Africa's pollution is less than 1%, for me these campaigns are misplaced they must target western polluters. Let's look these issues from the correct political context informed by our socioeconomic challenges and standing in world politics. Linda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: sello Tladi rmse...@gmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 14:47:15 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Fwd: Fw: PAC Joburg will join the march Izwe Lethu! Comrade President,Iam expecting you as my political Principal to be more informed around the issues of Green politics Renewable energy a.We are not opposed to industrial development however we are opposed to the use of nuclear energy hence there are environmental friendly alternatives that could be used,Green Renewable Energy and solar are the alternative.We cannot allow the corporates and Western countries continue to use Nuclear energy that is polluting our environment and putting the lives of the working class at risk.The law of money making doesn't care for the laws of nature. Cde President should we keep quite when the Developed Capitalist countries are exporting the ecological crisis to Africa,by dumping toxic waste and establishing the most environmentally destructive industries in Africa. I will continue to PUSH this campaigns,as I sit in the Green Energy Forum on my capacity as PAYCO NEC Member and Community activist.There are future workshops planned to empower our constituencies around Green Politics (Environment/Energy).I Comrades around Soweto please contact me for transport. Sello Tladi PAYCO(NEC Member and National Spokesperson) 083 859 1654 On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:56 AM, linda ndebele kwamendeb...@webmail.co.zawrote: ** PAC would join the march on what basis? Is it a principled policy position or NGO opportunistic position? From a developing country that needs urgent boost on industrialization and massive need of energy resources, nuclear remains an important option. We just cannot join a bandwagon of western countries who are developed and used the very cheap nuclear energy to get where they are today. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -- *From: * sello Tladi rmse...@gmail.com *Sender: * payco@googlegroups.com *Date: *Sun, 4 Nov 2012 01:38:14 -0800 *To: *payco@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * payco@googlegroups.com *Subject: *[PAYCO] Fwd: Fw: PAC Joburg will join the march --- On *Sun, 11/4/12, lehlohonolo Shale lehlohonolosh...@yahoo.com*wrote: From: lehlohonolo Shale lehlohonolosh...@yahoo.com Subject: PAC Joburg will join the march To: montja...@yahoo.com Date: Sunday, November 4, 2012, 11:30 AM Dear Cde We are planning to participate in the march below. Regards Hloni [image: file:///tmp/NuclearPamphlet_Front.jpg] -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your
Re: [PAYCO] PAC Leadership Manifesto
Cadre Krumah you've said mouthful insofar as unity is concerned, to all comrades going to congress let contribute meaningful in building PAC. On 7/8/12, Nkrumah nrkgag...@gmail.com wrote: Comrade Linda Genuine comrades within the PAC including its component structures aspire for a state whereat members and particularly those in leadership positions and those who might have led should not be pharisist on forging party unity. We should not condemn Letlapa and other for being factionalist when we are indifferent. I personally urge you and many other PAC members that at all times efforts should be made to achieve unity among comrades as opposed to antogonising each and every PAC comrade who hold differing views. The resentment comrades have against each other is not healthy and above all it deepens disunity within the PAC. While the ANC continues to dismally fail in bringing any meangingfull change for the vast majority of the African masses and neocolonialism strengthens its stranglehold in Africa, we as PAC continue to be weaken by our own inability to unite even on the most basic and less complex matters. I believe that all of us should spent whatever remaining energy and intelligence we each posses to forge unity with purpose and unity in action. There are comrades who have condemned the approach to resolve PAC political and organisational issues through neocolonial and bourgouisie courts and preferred more of party internal mechanism amidst the daunting challenges including counter organisation. However, there are comrades who strongly believe that political efforts had been tried without success thus the court approach might bring a solution whilst other comrades embraced all forms of interventions to reclaim the PAC position the party on a socialist revolutionary programme. We can appreciate all the three perspectives since none is antagonistic to the others, most comrades are driven by a determination to reclaim and rebuild the PAC, thus we should forge unity with a common purpose amd action than attack each others to an extent we are indifferent to the self contradictory statements of cde Letlapa. Cde Xaba views should be appreciated and like many other views we should contribute in making their effort and risks to be succesful to reclaim the PAC, thus all comrades who will attend this congress should be encouraged to be united and act in unison as oppossed to experiences of Alice whereat comrades who complained about the decree failed yo act in unison thud Letlapa was retained. If the court application fails and if attempts to reclaim PAC from Letlapa are also not successful, then this implies all in PAC is back to where things have been before. . . Forge unity than disunity, organise and not agonise other comrades. I can only hope that in my message there is adeqaute sense and reason. Shango Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi 0749226361 Sent from Samsung tablet linda ndebele kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za wrote: Interesting, its no longer about leadership collective. This campaign seeks to legitimize Letlapa and his flawed processes. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Sbusiso Xaba sbusiso.x...@gmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 20:17:21 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] PAC Leadership Manifesto On 6 July 2012 18:55, Hulisani Mmbara mmbar...@hotmail.com wrote: I came across this 'manifesto' on facebook. I accepted nomination for position of PAC President. I pledge to this commitment.- Sbusiso Xaba PAC Leadership Manifesto By Sbusiso Xaba Preamble Our major focus is to foster principled party unity, reconcile party members and create space for members to excel in the service of African people. We will collectively provide guidance on resolving the current constitutional crisis. We appreciate that PAC strength lies in its ideology and the application of democratic centralism should be based on enforceable decision-making model, which is capable of eliminate unmanaged conflict and power abuse with the PAC. Vision To build a strong PAC institutional capability to confront injustices, install revolutionary values and sustain Africanist Socialist Democracy. Key pillars of PAC program of action Accelerate PAC cadre development and political education (Pan Africanism, strategy and tactics). Develop PAC campaigning capacity in various areas Sovereignty, reparation, economic self-determination and Africanist Socialist production Holistic life quality to foster the Africanist personality (education, health and housing). Nation building (organising African nation scattered across the world). Develop PAC regulations (internal policies) that guide decision-making and foster party unity such as: PAC Cadre Deployment Regulation (Selection, Monitoring and Evaluation) PAC Delegation of
Re: [PAYCO] NATIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION: DIAGNOTSIC REPORT AND VISION 2030
With regard to PASMA i don't believe there's such a critical scrutiny to the NPC towards 2030! On 5/18/12, Nkrumah Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings comrades Is Payco and PASMA formulating political policy responses to the National Planning Commission's Diagnostic Report and National Development Plan Vision 2030? If there is such a process can we be linked to the comrades coordinating this process. Shnago lasho Regards Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi 074 922 6361 -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
