Where can I read about these units?
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The following got lost in my drafts folder so is a
Ted. One place you can read about the Book Port is:
http://www.afb.org/prodProfile.asp?ProdID=645SourceID=67
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The following got lost in my drafts folder so is a bit behind.
I think I would buy a Book Port if it could record in good stereo from
microphones.
I keep looking for that magic unit that does what I want and is easy to use.
I see lots of mp3 players with voice recording and fm but there is
The rockbox he is speaking of is speech software for the IRiver
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And I would although it is one of the older iriver players not call the
iriver h300 series unaccessible.
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Sent: 11 September 2006 11:43 AM
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Hi,
I'm going to research this thing and see what I can find. I use eBay
frequequently so I'll check it out.
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What utter bullshit!
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From: Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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but the IRiver is not accessible at all. at least tha'ts hwaht I'vee
I heard it from crishan wawell. Ok. I'm not spelling his name right at all,
but he said you need tighted help to get the recording options working and
such. Oh, and will I hear the click as the hard drive start to spinin my
headphones if Im reading a book or listening to lecture notes?
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OK, I'm confused. I had heard that some IRivers are very accessible and
user-friendly! I went to eBay thinking I might find something helpful and I
found nothing with more than 1 or 2 gb of space in the ifp 700-series. I
can't believe I wouldn't want a video iPod since it is already known
I've got an IFP 899 model from Iriver, and if that thing isn't
accessible, then i dunno what is. Granted you *will* need sighted
help to access the menus, but once you do, you can operate it like
any other mp3 player.
Plus if you can get rockbox installed on other models like the h140
or h340
Hi Chris,
How large does that Iriver you have go up to. I only found them in
1gb. I'm speaking about the IFP 899.
on Monday 9/11/2006 03:27 PM, Chris Skarstad said:
I've got an IFP 899 model from Iriver, and if that thing isn't
accessible, then i dunno what is. Granted you *will* need
Hi. My model has a capacity of 1 gb, and for the IFP models that's
the maximum since they're flash based.
Other Iriver models have a hard drive in them, but the IFP models are
flash based as I said.
At 03:44 PM 9/11/2006, you wrote:
Hi Chris,
How large does that Iriver you have go up to. I
I have an Iriver IFP799 which differs slightly cosmetically from
the 899 but functionally is the same. It is quite accessible if
one is willing to do some menu memorization or write a cheat
sheet. I do hope however that Rock Box ultimately works on this
thing as my memory sure ain't what it
What i'm saying, Sarah, is not to even bother with an IPod at all. Do the
EBay thing, they're working on RockBox for the IRiver IFP700-series
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but the IRiver is not accessible at all. at least tha'ts hwaht I'vee heard.
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Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:28 AM
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What i'm
Hi NIck where would you get the utility for rockbox since I would
need the directory and file name information? Have a great day.
At 04:36 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:
Number one it is about $399, i believe. number two, it holds about 40 Gigs
of music, I believe for that price. Number three, you
speaking of mp3 players? Woll rockbox work on an Ipod Nanno? I am going to
try and buy an IPod so I can take my podcast comeciton, books and more with
me on trips and flights or class.
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Sarah, yes. So far as i know the IPod Nano will work with rockbox.
However, I have to discourage you from buying one, unless you want an mp3
player known to break in half. Still interested? I didn't thinhk so.
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Well actually my sister recomended it as it is cheaper and doesn't have the
vidio thingy like hers.
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Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 5:29 PM
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thanks! I'll take a peek
Terese
At 12:08 PM 9/7/2006, you wrote:
Hi Therese
Don't give up on your ipod. I was just about ready to throw in the
towel when Arthur helped me with Anapod Explorer. I am now copying
and pasting songs into my mini like a pro. My personal opinion is
itunes is
I agree. We had a Milestone for about 20 minutes, grin. Took it out
of the box and played with it a bit, couldn't seem to get it to do
much so we packed it back up and sent it back. I've spent a bit more
time on the iPod but it's looking like that one may go back too.
Terese
At 06:34 PM
Hi Terese,
I have iPod Shuffle,
and it works fine.
I am using Anapod for it.
Arthur Barney
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The thing with the Ipod is the Itunes software which isn't real accessible
without paying for scripts. Also, if you were going to put Rockbox on, you
would lose the ability to play stuff purchased on the Itunes store and other
formats Apple put in it.
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From: Terese
Do you have to get sighted assistance to get the serial number off the Ipod
needed to register it with Apple so that it works?
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Hi Brent,
you don't need iTunes at all, if you use Anapod.
you have to buy Anapod, which has 3 different prices.
They are $20.00, $25.00, and $30.00. The $30.00 one will work with all
iPods.
Arthur Barney
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Tell me more about this anapod explorer.
I'm kind of new to the ipod thing.
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From: Lynda Ingraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:09 PM
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Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
Hi Therese
Don't
Hi Therese
Don't give up on your ipod. I was just about ready to throw in the towel when
Arthur helped me with Anapod Explorer. I am now copying and pasting songs into
my mini like a pro. My personal opinion is itunes is more trouble than it is
worth. You can read about Anapod Explorer
Hi Jed,
I am also new to ipods and all the ways to download music. I am more than
willing to share what I know, but may not use exactly the right terms. If any
more experienced users want to jump in and help out, thank you much.
I have an ipod mini. I purchased scripts in hopes of making
Hi Jed,
it is allot easier for you to go the the site, and read about it, rather
some body trying to tell you about it.
Hear is the address to the site.
http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/
Arthur Barney
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OK, cool, I'll check it out.
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Hi Jed,
it is allot easier for you to go the the site, and read
Hi Lynda,
even with the scripts for iTunes, you still can't get to the music store.
Maybe you can download Nabster, and buy your music from there.
Arthur Barney
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Hi Lynda,
I'll download the demo scripts for iTunes, and see if I can figure out how
to get the music out of iTunes.
Arthur Barney
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I did.
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Do you have to get sighted assistance to get the serial
A person would be much better off to take the same amount of money they would
pay for a Milestone and purchase a Book Port at the same price.
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Hi all
Have just been wondering. If vorbis is such a popular format and so much
better, why is it not more widely used than mp3 in e.g. music services? Is
there a lossless format for ogg vorbis?
Andre
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this sounds fantastic and all around
supurb. Now, if one of you nice people has $299 or $349 to buy one,
you got more money than me.
I just don't have the necessary cash at the moment, and by the time I
do, a better model will probably be out.
At 08:27 PM 9/5/2006, you wrote:
I, personally,
David, my question is for book port if you have a lot of music on there,
how do you know wich tune you are going to play in other words how
does one read through the list?
Thanks in advance.
At 08:57 PM 9/5/2006, you wrote:
What features do you want it to have? Ultimately, I think one of
the
Nick I have a couple of questions.
1. how expensive is the iaudio x5 and,
2. how much deos it hold.
3. how do you know what tune you are looking for in other words how
do you know where you are in the menuis?
thanks in advance.
At 09:27 PM 9/5/2006, you wrote:
I, personally, would by the
David oops I should have read your second message, there must be some
kind of speech involved here?
At 09:54 PM 9/5/2006, you wrote:
Book Port list price is $399 from American Printing House for the
Blind www.aph.org. The Olympus w WS320m is around $200 and can be
purchased through places like
I wonder if the digisette players would be the best, most accessible thing
out? I heard once you navigate it to the proper file, you just pop it in a
tape deck and press play. I thought I heard you could record in mp3 from it
too, doubt you'd get CD quality sound out of that old tape machine
How much are these devices?
Rickarama
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What features do you want it to have?
Andr,e the lossless vorbis format is called Flac, though I'm hearing that
WavPack is better, and it's also open source. Why it isn't used more than
mp3, maybe because the public seem to flock to closed up formats. People
like Apple don't seem to want anything to do with Vorbis, and mp3 seems
Ah, well, if it's the flash based mp3 players you want, then I'm not as sure
as I once was. Cowon does make some of those. i would've before chosen any
player by Luxpro, but the American dealer for Luxpro seems to have
disappeared.
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From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL
Number one it is about $399, i believe. number two, it holds about 40 Gigs
of music, I believe for that price. Number three, you can download a
utility, if you are using Rockbox on it, to record directory and file name
voices for rockbox.
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Wonder if rockbox will play that?
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Sent: 06 September 2006 10:27 PM
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Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
Andr,e the lossless vorbis format is called
welli bought myself a milestone, a very small mp3 player in whitch you can put
a sd card.
you can store music or books or whatever on different cards if you like.
it has speech support and the abbility of reading daisy books as well.
it evenhas a small loudspeaker and is as small as a credit
Rockbox, i know, plays WavPack, don't know about flac goes.
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Wonder if
Thanks much! I'll give it a try
Terese
At 04:39 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:
welli bought myself a milestone, a very small mp3 player in whitch
you can put a sd card.
you can store music or books or whatever on different cards if you like.
it has speech support and the abbility of reading daisy
Hi Terese and all,
I feel the Milestone is overpriced for its limited feature set. Add the
ability to play DRM formats like protected WMA and add support for
verbalizing ID3 tags, replaceable batteries, etc. Then, maybe, we're movin'
in the right direction on this product.
Darrell Shandrow
Hi Nick and all,
Wonder if anyone is selling any MP3 players preconfigured with Rockbox?
Now, I think that'd be a deal for one of the blindness products companies?
Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications!
Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator!
A+, CSSA, Network+!
Hi Darrell,
RockBox is developing software for all iPods, except iPod Shuffle.
Arthur Barney
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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 7:35 PM
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That certainly is understandable. If you can find a Creative Labs Nuvo I think
there is a chance that you can get one for $100 or less, and they are fairly
accessible. There may be others, but I will admit to not knowing about the
newest MP3 players in the less expensive market just because I
Book Port is $399 from American Printing House for the Blind http://www.aph.org
The Olympus WS320M is around $200, but you can also get it in a model WS310m
with 512 meg of memory and all the features remain the same or model WS300m
with 256 megabytes of memory and same features. The WS320m is
What about Non-protected WMA support? I sort of don't like the idea of
recompressing these into mp3. Once I accidentally chose the wrong processing
in Goldwave demo trying to convert one to wav and converted it to another
wma at the same bit rate. Boy did I ever notice the sound quality
Thanks Rich and Nick for this info. I'll look forward to hearing the
report.
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This info comes from a rather trusted source.
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From: Rich Cavallaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Nick G [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:11
Ogg Vorbis is a format that has twice the sound quality of mp3 at equivalent
bitrates.
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Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:39 PM
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Hi,
What is ogg Vorbis?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Nick G
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:27 PM
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Subject: Re: If you had to buy a mp3 player today
I, personally, would by the IAUdio X5 from
Book Port list price is $399 from American Printing House for the Blind
www.aph.org. The Olympus w WS320m is around $200 and can be purchased through
places like Amazon.com. Prices on the WS320M will be different from place to
place, but it is readily available on the web, and some office
What features do you want it to have? Ultimately, I think one of the best is
Book Port, but then you may not be looking for a multi purpose device such as
Book Port. The great thing about it is that it is totally accessible, and
since it uses flash memory cards up to 4 gigabytes you can have
How much does the mp3 players cost?
Thanks for the INFO.
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Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:57 PM
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What
I, personally, would by the IAUdio X5 from www.cowonamerica.com. It has a
hard drive, is made out of nice metal, and cah use rock box, which makes the
mp3 player talk. It, even out of the box, can play ogg Vorbis, which is
something I look for always.
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From: David
It is an audio file format. Here's a short quotation from the Vorbis
home page: Ogg Vorbis is a completely open, patent-free,
professional audio encoding and streaming technology with all the
benefits of Open Source. For more information go to www.vorbis.com.
At 11:39 AM 6/09/2006, you
Hi Nick. I sure would be interested in a voice walkthrough of this product.
Sweet that Rockbox supports it but I'd like to know how it operates and how
easy it is to navigate. An example is while recording. When you pause
several times,how do you know if it is paused or not. How many steps
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