Re: winamp 5.5 problem
Winamp 5.35 and pretty much all earlier winap versions can be downloaded at the Winamp Heaven site. Not sure of the url but you can google it. Larry - Original Message - From: Arthur Barney [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:53 PM Subject: Re: winamp 5.5 problem Hi Kevin, and Emma, I had the same problem, so I went back to 5.35. If you don't have it, let me know, I will send it to you. - Original Message - From: kevin and Emma [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: winamp 5.5 problem hi all, i've recently upgraded from winamp 5.35 to 5.5 and now have a really irritating problem. before, with 5.35, i could put a cd in the drive, select play audio cd and it would play the whole cd without a break. however now, it seems to be checking for a valid entry online via one of the online databases after each track. if it can't find a match, it stops playing and tells me so and asks if i want to submit a new entry. i don't mind if this for the first track, but it does it for each individual track and it's bugging me. how can i stop winamp doing this? i want it to behave like before, where it would just carry on playing whether it had a match or not. i've looked through preferences and i can't find anything that would seem to be an obvious solution. kevin - (lord l) Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice-Will Durant contact me: email/msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: lordandladyl Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2630 (20071031) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
can anyone shed some light
okay folks greetings from Denver here is a weird situation my girlfriend has an internal drive which she placed in an enclosure, up until yesterday it worked fine using the USB interface, since yesterday when she tryst to access it says 0 bytes access is denied. however if she brings it over to my machine it shows works perfectly both using windows up any ideas? my msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] my skype golden_voice1954 and my aim goldenvoice1954 Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another Way to Convert Files Using Winamp
Do I have to be in winamp first, before I can click the right mouse or the applications key to send to? - Original Message - From: Marijan Janev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 7:05 AM Subject: Re: Another Way to Convert Files Using Winamp The newest winamp 5.5 has abbility to convert files in all formats it supports. Just clic right-mouse and choose send to, and then the last options is convert format. That's all. Michael Lang said the following on 02.11.2007 02:58: Hi Steve, I like your conversion method, because one can choose some formats, which theDiskWriter PlugIn doesn't handle. However, I can't start the conversion, after I've configured the format PlugIn. With the DiskWriter PlugIn, one simply plays the file to convert it, but this doesn't work with the format PlugIn. Does one first have to put the file into the media library? Thanks *** Michael Lang *** Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Weard Specks On CDR's Question
hello, it stands for 80 minutes play time. hth anthony - Original Message - From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 10:15 AM Subject: RE: Weard Specks On CDR's Question It sounds like the indicator for 80 minute disks but I'm not sure. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 3:22 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Weard Specks On CDR's Question Hello List Members, The time has come for me to get a lot of audio files off of my computer. I am looking to order new CDR's to do this. I was looking at them on: http://www.tape.com The CDR's that I'm looking at has 80pt. I've never seen or heard this term and or speck before. Can anyone tell me what the letters pt means? Thanks John. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2633 (20071102) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: multi channel recording??
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Re: winamp 5.5 problem
Hi Adrian, Open Winamp, (ctrl + P for preferences, go to the top for general preferences, and tab to where it says check for Winamp at start up, and uncheck it. If you want to make Windows media your default, open WindowsMedia, Alt for file, go to to tools, press inter, arrow up to options, inter, Ctrl tab 8 time to file types, and tab to select all button, press space bar, and tab to OK. Take care, Arthur Barney - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:20 PM Subject: Re: winamp 5.5 problem Hi, Arthur. This is surely asked and answered, but as a 5.35 user, how do I stop Winamp from elbowing in and demanding I upgrade to 5.5? Alternatively, how do I make Windows Media Player my default, as I attempted without success earlier today? - Original Message - From: Arthur Barney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Kevin, and Emma, I had the same problem, so I went back to 5.35. If you don't have it, let me know, I will send it to you. - Original Message - From: kevin and Emma [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi all, i've recently upgraded from winamp 5.35 to 5.5 and now have a really irritating problem. before, with 5.35, i could put a cd in the drive, select play audio cd and it would play the whole cd without a break. however now, it seems to be checking for a valid entry online via one of the online databases after each track. if it can't find a match, it stops playing and tells me so and asks if i want to submit a new entry. i don't mind if this for the first track, but it does it for each individual track and it's bugging me. how can i stop winamp doing this? i want it to behave like before, where it would just carry on playing whether it had a match or not. i've looked through preferences and i can't find anything that would seem to be an obvious solution. kevin - (lord l) Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice-Will Durant contact me: email/msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: lordandladyl Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2632 (20071101) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Total Recorder Question
Hey Dave,\ Right me privately. I have the program here I will send it too you as a file attachment. Scott - Original Message - From: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:24 PM Subject: Total Recorder Question For a long time now I have seen messages about how accessible Total Recorder is, and so I went to downloads.com a few days back and downloaded Total Recorder and Audio Editor. To say that it was anything but accessible would be nothing short of a lie. Obviously, I must not have gotten the right program. Can someone give me a good link for downloading the software. Thanks, D. T. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.17/1103 - Release Date: 11/1/2007 6:01 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: multi channel recording??
For multi-channel recording a lot of people use Sonar from Cakewalk. It works well with JAWS and the $300 scripts for it and many people report good success with Window Eyes out of the box. Jerry Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! Edirol R-09: high quality portable stereo Secure Digital Audio recorder with USB, $359.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $35.00 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $35 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! J-Say 4.0 without Naturally Speaking: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 6.0: $895, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery within the USA, add $35 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 9.0 with CD Architect 5.2 and Noise Reduction 2.0: $250, includes delivery within the USA, add $35 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal All Major Credit Cards, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can anyone shed some light
High James, I ran in to that problem before. The trick to it is, having the correct drivers for that hard drive installed on your computer. Does your girl friend have them on her computer? Another thing you may want to think about, is the type of operating system she's running. Windows XP will find the drivers for you and auto install it for you. But if it is a operating system that came out before Windows XP, you will need to install the drivers yourself. Good luck, I hope this helps you and your girl friend. John. - Original Message - From: james h [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:06 AM Subject: can anyone shed some light okay folks greetings from Denver here is a weird situation my girlfriend has an internal drive which she placed in an enclosure, up until yesterday it worked fine using the USB interface, since yesterday when she tryst to access it says 0 bytes access is denied. however if she brings it over to my machine it shows works perfectly both using windows up any ideas? my msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] my skype golden_voice1954 and my aim goldenvoice1954 Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.17/1103 - Release Date: 11/1/2007 6:01 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can anyone shed some light
Hard drive problems are off topic for the pc audio list. You'd probably get more help on the blind tech list. Tom ** Original Message From: james h ** here is the thing it worked too days ago both using up I just plugged it in to my computer and it shows up it sounds like their is something involving USB devices on her machine which isn't recognizing or allowing it to funnction Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can anyone shed some light
here is the thing it worked too days ago both using up I just plugged it in to my computer and it shows up it sounds like their is something involving USB devices on her machine which isn't recognizing or allowing it to function - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 6:40 AM Subject: Re: can anyone shed some light High James, I ran in to that problem before. The trick to it is, having the correct drivers for that hard drive installed on your computer. Does your girl friend have them on her computer? Another thing you may want to think about, is the type of operating system she's running. Windows XP will find the drivers for you and auto install it for you. But if it is a operating system that came out before Windows XP, you will need to install the drivers yourself. Good luck, I hope this helps you and your girl friend. John. - Original Message - From: james h [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:06 AM Subject: can anyone shed some light okay folks greetings from Denver here is a weird situation my girlfriend has an internal drive which she placed in an enclosure, up until yesterday it worked fine using the USB interface, since yesterday when she tryst to access it says 0 bytes access is denied. however if she brings it over to my machine it shows works perfectly both using windows up any ideas? my msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] my skype golden_voice1954 and my aim goldenvoice1954 Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.17/1103 - Release Date: 11/1/2007 6:01 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another Way to Convert Files Using Winamp
The newest winamp 5.5 has abbility to convert files in all formats it supports. Just clic right-mouse and choose send to, and then the last options is convert format. That's all. Michael Lang said the following on 02.11.2007 02:58: Hi Steve, I like your conversion method, because one can choose some formats, which theDiskWriter PlugIn doesn't handle. However, I can't start the conversion, after I've configured the format PlugIn. With the DiskWriter PlugIn, one simply plays the file to convert it, but this doesn't work with the format PlugIn. Does one first have to put the file into the media library? Thanks *** Michael Lang *** Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another Way to Convert Files Using Winamp
Of course! First open winamp 5.5, open the file you wish to convert, and then clic right-mouse. Thao Vy said the following on 02.11.2007 12:40: Do I have to be in winamp first, before I can click the right mouse or the applications key to send to? Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: multi channel recording??
We are talking here about 'multi-track recording aren't we? Not multi-channel, which is what Sound Forge 9 does. Yes, Sonar does seem to be the only choice for multi-track recording, at least that I've heard of. $300.00 seems a hell of a lot extra on top of the cost of JFW for access to it, but I suppose if you are actually earning your living using it, it may be tax deductable, or else someone else is paying the bill! If Window-Eyes is working well with it, I'd better take a look. What's the state of play with Audacitywhich is free? As far as I know the multi-track facility hadn't been implemented beyond two tracks a few months ago. Cheers, From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Jerry Richer For multi-channel recording a lot of people use Sonar from Cakewalk. It works well with JAWS and the $300 scripts for it and many people report good success with Window Eyes out of the box. Jerry Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Weard Specks On CDR's Question
Hello List Members, The time has come for me to get a lot of audio files off of my computer. I am looking to order new CDR's to do this. I was looking at them on: http://www.tape.com The CDR's that I'm looking at has 80pt. I've never seen or heard this term and or speck before. Can anyone tell me what the letters pt means? Thanks John. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Weard Specks On CDR's Question
It sounds like the indicator for 80 minute disks but I'm not sure. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 3:22 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Weard Specks On CDR's Question Hello List Members, The time has come for me to get a lot of audio files off of my computer. I am looking to order new CDR's to do this. I was looking at them on: http://www.tape.com The CDR's that I'm looking at has 80pt. I've never seen or heard this term and or speck before. Can anyone tell me what the letters pt means? Thanks John. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: winamp 5.5 problem
Thanks, Arthur. Very clear directions. I solved the problem, only thanks to you, with a different setting in Winamp's general properties by unchecking the box that has Winamp search for updates. With that nuisance gone, I'll keep Winamp as the default for now. - Original Message - From: Arthur Barney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Adrian, Open Winamp, (ctrl + P for preferences, go to the top for general preferences, and tab to where it says check for Winamp at start up, and uncheck it. If you want to make Windows media your default, open WindowsMedia, Alt for file, go to to tools, press inter, arrow up to options, inter, Ctrl tab 8 time to file types, and tab to select all button, press space bar, and tab to OK. Take care, Arthur Barney - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Arthur. This is surely asked and answered, but as a 5.35 user, how do I stop Winamp from elbowing in and demanding I upgrade to 5.5? Alternatively, how do I make Windows Media Player my default, as I attempted without success earlier today? - Original Message - From: Arthur Barney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Kevin, and Emma, I had the same problem, so I went back to 5.35. If you don't have it, let me know, I will send it to you. - Original Message - From: kevin and Emma [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi all, i've recently upgraded from winamp 5.35 to 5.5 and now have a really irritating problem. before, with 5.35, i could put a cd in the drive, select play audio cd and it would play the whole cd without a break. however now, it seems to be checking for a valid entry online via one of the online databases after each track. if it can't find a match, it stops playing and tells me so and asks if i want to submit a new entry. i don't mind if this for the first track, but it does it for each individual track and it's bugging me. how can i stop winamp doing this? i want it to behave like before, where it would just carry on playing whether it had a match or not. i've looked through preferences and i can't find anything that would seem to be an obvious solution. kevin - (lord l) Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice-Will Durant contact me: email/msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: lordandladyl Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
retrieving files from a floppy disc
Does anyone out there know of a program that will open up a floppy disc that may be corrupted? I know that there is files on this particular disc, but when I try to loaded I get the message that the disc is not formatted. Never had this problem before. I did install the new winamp the other day. That was the only change that has been made to this computer of late. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: retrieving files from a floppy disc
Bob, sometimes, if you keep re-trying to read the disk you might be able to see the files. Or, if you have access to another pc, that pc might be able to read the disk. earlier, Bob Seed, wrote: Does anyone out there know of a program that will open up a floppy disc that may be corrupted? I know that there is files on this particular disc, but when I try to loaded I get the message that the disc is not formatted. Never had this problem before. I did install the new winamp the other day. That was the only change that has been made to this computer of late. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1105 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 11:04 AM John -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1105 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 11:04 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: retrieving files from a floppy disc
John, Did that with no positive results. All is not lost, as I may have some of the information that I want to retrieve on e-mails that I sent out. . - Original Message - From: John Schwery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:30 PM Subject: Re: retrieving files from a floppy disc Bob, sometimes, if you keep re-trying to read the disk you might be able to see the files. Or, if you have access to another pc, that pc might be able to read the disk. earlier, Bob Seed, wrote: Does anyone out there know of a program that will open up a floppy disc that may be corrupted? I know that there is files on this particular disc, but when I try to loaded I get the message that the disc is not formatted. Never had this problem before. I did install the new winamp the other day. That was the only change that has been made to this computer of late. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1105 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 11:04 AM John -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1105 - Release Date: 11/2/2007 11:04 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.36/1041 - Release Date: 01/10/2007 10:20 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Olympus ws player help wanted
I'm trying out an Olympus WS-331m recorder. I have a lot of it worked out but am having trouble selecting folders in music mode. It seems the folder button isn't used for this purpose in music mode. I'm trying to get to the root folder. Anyone know the trick? Thanks. Bob Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: replay av question
yes, you have to create the file manually and place it in the conversation folder then restart replay av and it will be in the converting table for you to choose from - Original Message - From: aad leeflang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 1:28 AM Subject: replay av question hello all, i just upgraded to replay av 8. i hitt upon the following: in replay av 7 i could convert my captured file to mpe with a 192 bitrate. in the new replay i have more formats but when i select the mp3 format i only see: 128 k bps, 16, 32 and 64. i want a higher bitrate than 128. is there still a way to get that? aad Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
replay av question
hello all, i just upgraded to replay av 8. i hitt upon the following: in replay av 7 i could convert my captured file to mpe with a 192 bitrate. in the new replay i have more formats but when i select the mp3 format i only see: 128 k bps, 16, 32 and 64. i want a higher bitrate than 128. is there still a way to get that? aad Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]