Re: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?

2016-11-27 Thread Dane Trethowan
Ah okay/, I thought the Tap was a mains powered unit that plugged into 
Stereo systems, TV'S that sort of thing./


//


On 28/11/2016 10:33 AM, Donald L. Roberts wrote:
I'm sorry, Dane; but the dot is not a battery unit. However, the tap 
runs from batteries.



Don Roberts



On 11/27/2016 6:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Yes, we’re discussing the Amazon Echo on another list as it happens 
and I just wanted to confirm that the Dot indeed is a battery unit.
The whole Voice recognition game has gone ahead ahead in leaps and 
bounds, obviously I don’t have an Amazon Echo - not yet - or a Google 
Home but I do have my Samsung Galaxy S6 with “OK Google” and “Google 
Now” installed and the things that combination can do - if you’re 
prepared to spend the time to speak your mind as the saying goes - is 
astonishing.
For example I can tell the phone to “Play Radio 1070 KNX with Tunein” 
to which Google responds, “Playing KNX 1070 News Radio” and that you 
then hear.
To stop playing all I have to do is to wake up google , “Ok Google” 
and say, “Stop Play”, to which Google Responds, “Sure!”.
I have Google do a whole heap of other things besides, I just 
mentioned this example as its one I’ve only refined the voice 
commands for over the last few days, practise makes perfect .



On 28 Nov. 2016, at 1:42 am, John Gurd  wrote:

Yes, it's the smaller unit by far but has all the features of it's 
bigger sibling. The Dot can be connected by audio cable to a larger 
speaker or even an amplifier. I haven't done this. It also has 
Bluetooth. There is a misnomer that it doesn't have a built-in 
speaker but it does. The sound quality is much like an old-fashioned 
transistor radio but I have listened to music from a random playlist 
in the background from amazon Prime and it is okay for casual radio 
listening. I can also tell it to connect via Bluetooth to my iPhone 
and play my book from the Voice Dream app via the Dot. It certainly 
sounds fine and can play at a reasonable volume for the equivalent 
of a transistor radio.


If I should be fortunate to get the bigger Echo for Xmas I'll keep 
it in the living room and move the Dot to the bedroom. That way I 
can use it to control the heating and lighting from either place by 
voice and it will serve as an alarm clock as well. Incidentally, it 
also tells Jokes and Interesting Facts on demand. In fact it is 
quite a good dictionary and calculator too.


John


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Dane Trethowan

Sent: 27 November 2016 02:27
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?

The Echo Dot is the smaller unit right? Does it run on battery power 
too?



On 27 Nov. 2016, at 6:58 am, John Gurd  wrote:

I just got the Echo Dot to try it out as I already have a Hive home 
connected system. I can control some lights and the central heating 
thermostat with it. It's fairly rudimentary but has a lot of 
potential  that I hope will be realised in the near future. I've 
found it handy for a quick news summary, checking my local train 
service, and for simple questions and even a casual dip into radio 
such as BBC radio 4. Overall, I like it enough to anticipate 
getting its bigger brother for Xmas.


John

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Jim Noseworthy

Sent: 25 November 2016 11:43
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?

Hi:

In my opinion, if you're not wanting to use Audible, Google home 
wins the vote; however, if Audible is important, then forget Google 
home.  I have access to both devices.


Cheers.


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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:53 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?

All I can say is that Home and Echo are incredibly powerful tools 
as this article demonstrates all too clearly.
http://newatlas.com/amazon-echo-vs-google-home/46423/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers_campaign=4cc9032d68-UA-2235360-4_medium=email_term=0_65b67362bd-4cc9032d68-92350869 



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Re: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?

2016-11-27 Thread Donald L. Roberts
I'm sorry, Dane; but the dot is not a battery unit.  However, the tap 
runs from batteries.



Don Roberts



On 11/27/2016 6:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Yes, we’re discussing the Amazon Echo on another list as it happens and I just 
wanted to confirm that the Dot indeed is a battery unit.
The whole Voice recognition game has gone ahead ahead in leaps and bounds, 
obviously I don’t have an Amazon Echo - not yet - or a Google Home but I do 
have my Samsung Galaxy S6 with “OK Google” and “Google Now” installed and the 
things that combination can do - if you’re prepared to spend the time to speak 
your mind as the saying goes - is astonishing.
For example I can tell the phone to “Play Radio 1070 KNX with Tunein” to which 
Google responds, “Playing KNX 1070 News Radio” and that you then hear.
To stop playing all I have to do is to wake up google , “Ok Google” and say, 
“Stop Play”, to which Google Responds, “Sure!”.
I have Google do a whole heap of other things besides, I just mentioned this example 
as its one I’ve only refined the voice commands for over the last few days, practise 
makes perfect .


On 28 Nov. 2016, at 1:42 am, John Gurd  wrote:

Yes, it's the smaller unit by far but has all the features of it's bigger 
sibling. The Dot can be connected by audio cable to a larger speaker or even an 
amplifier. I haven't done this. It also has Bluetooth. There is a misnomer that 
it doesn't have a built-in speaker but it does. The sound quality is much like 
an old-fashioned transistor radio but I have listened to music from a random 
playlist in the background from amazon Prime and it is okay for casual radio 
listening. I can also tell it to connect via Bluetooth to my iPhone and play my 
book from the Voice Dream app via the Dot. It certainly sounds fine and can 
play at a reasonable volume for the equivalent of a transistor radio.

If I should be fortunate to get the bigger Echo for Xmas I'll keep it in the 
living room and move the Dot to the bedroom. That way I can use it to control 
the heating and lighting from either place by voice and it will serve as an 
alarm clock as well. Incidentally, it also tells Jokes and Interesting Facts on 
demand. In fact it is quite a good dictionary and calculator too.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 27 November 2016 02:27
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?

The Echo Dot is the smaller unit right? Does it run on battery power too?


On 27 Nov. 2016, at 6:58 am, John Gurd  wrote:

I just got the Echo Dot to try it out as I already have a Hive home connected 
system. I can control some lights and the central heating thermostat with it. 
It's fairly rudimentary but has a lot of potential  that I hope will be 
realised in the near future. I've found it handy for a quick news summary, 
checking my local train service, and for simple questions and even a casual dip 
into radio such as BBC radio 4. Overall, I like it enough to anticipate getting 
its bigger brother for Xmas.

John

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim 
Noseworthy
Sent: 25 November 2016 11:43
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?

Hi:

In my opinion, if you're not wanting to use Audible, Google home wins the vote; 
however, if Audible is important, then forget Google home.  I have access to 
both devices.

Cheers.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:53 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?

All I can say is that Home and Echo are incredibly powerful tools as this 
article demonstrates all too clearly.
http://newatlas.com/amazon-echo-vs-google-home/46423/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers_campaign=4cc9032d68-UA-2235360-4_medium=email_term=0_65b67362bd-4cc9032d68-92350869

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Re: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?

2016-11-27 Thread Gary Schindler
You can buy a third party battery for the Echo from Amazon. to charge it you 
use the charger that comes with the unit. I think they cost about $50.00 US 
dollars. I am not sure if one is available for the Dot.



-Original Message- 
From: John Gurd

Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 2:41 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?

Ah, I forgot to answer that part of your question. No, the Dot is not 
battery powered. You get a little USB style cable.


And yes, practise does indeed make perfect (well, close enough, anyway) when 
it comes to voice commands. Just imagine doing it with a Scottish accent and 
you'll see how hard I have to work sometimes. I'll admit sometimes I've 
either had to put on an English accent or talk like I'm speaking to an 
imbocile! Actually, most of the time the speech recognition is good so it's 
not that bad, and it does seem to learn over time. And of course you have to 
hit upon the right phrase as the Echo isn't that flexible with how commands 
are expressed. I suspect Google Home will be an improvement in that regard. 
Google Home isn't out here in the UK yet.


I'm still enjoying playing with the Echo though and have to confess at being 
surprised at how much I like it. The UK voice is very good, and when I've 
had it read the odd newspaper article I've been really impressed with how 
natural it sounds. I believe in the US it can read Kindle books (as opposed 
to Audible/Audio books) but sadly that function isn't available in the UK so 
far. If it were I might be tempted to buy a few books from the Kindle store.


John

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan

Sent: 27 November 2016 14:54
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?

Yes, we�re discussing the Amazon Echo on another list as it happens and I 
just wanted to confirm that the Dot indeed is a battery unit.
The whole Voice recognition game has gone ahead ahead in leaps and bounds, 
obviously I don�t have an Amazon Echo - not yet - or a Google Home but I do 
have my Samsung Galaxy S6 with �OK Google� and �Google Now� installed and 
the things that combination can do - if you�re prepared to spend the time to 
speak your mind as the saying goes - is astonishing.
For example I can tell the phone to �Play Radio 1070 KNX with Tunein� to 
which Google responds, �Playing KNX 1070 News Radio� and that you then hear.
To stop playing all I have to do is to wake up google , �Ok Google� and say, 
�Stop Play�, to which Google Responds, �Sure!�.
I have Google do a whole heap of other things besides, I just mentioned this 
example as its one I�ve only refined the voice commands for over the last 
few days, practise makes perfect .



On 28 Nov. 2016, at 1:42 am, John Gurd  wrote:

Yes, it's the smaller unit by far but has all the features of it's bigger 
sibling. The Dot can be connected by audio cable to a larger speaker or 
even an amplifier. I haven't done this. It also has Bluetooth. There is a 
misnomer that it doesn't have a built-in speaker but it does. The sound 
quality is much like an old-fashioned transistor radio but I have listened 
to music from a random playlist in the background from amazon Prime and it 
is okay for casual radio listening. I can also tell it to connect via 
Bluetooth to my iPhone and play my book from the Voice Dream app via the 
Dot. It certainly sounds fine and can play at a reasonable volume for the 
equivalent of a transistor radio.


If I should be fortunate to get the bigger Echo for Xmas I'll keep it in 
the living room and move the Dot to the bedroom. That way I can use it to 
control the heating and lighting from either place by voice and it will 
serve as an alarm clock as well. Incidentally, it also tells Jokes and 
Interesting Facts on demand. In fact it is quite a good dictionary and 
calculator too.


John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan

Sent: 27 November 2016 02:27
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?

The Echo Dot is the smaller unit right? Does it run on battery power too?


On 27 Nov. 2016, at 6:58 am, John Gurd  wrote:

I just got the Echo Dot to try it out as I already have a Hive home 
connected system. I can control some lights and the central heating 
thermostat with it. It's fairly rudimentary but has a lot of potential 
that I hope will be realised in the near future. I've found it handy for 
a quick news summary, checking my local train service, and for simple 
questions and even a casual dip into radio such as BBC radio 4. Overall, 
I like it enough to anticipate getting its bigger brother for Xmas.


John

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim 
Noseworthy


RE: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?

2016-11-27 Thread John Gurd
Ah, I forgot to answer that part of your question. No, the Dot is not battery 
powered. You get a little USB style cable. 

And yes, practise does indeed make perfect (well, close enough, anyway) when it 
comes to voice commands. Just imagine doing it with a Scottish accent and 
you'll see how hard I have to work sometimes. I'll admit sometimes I've either 
had to put on an English accent or talk like I'm speaking to an imbocile! 
Actually, most of the time the speech recognition is good so it's not that bad, 
and it does seem to learn over time. And of course you have to hit upon the 
right phrase as the Echo isn't that flexible with how commands are expressed. I 
suspect Google Home will be an improvement in that regard. Google Home isn't 
out here in the UK yet. 

I'm still enjoying playing with the Echo though and have to confess at being 
surprised at how much I like it. The UK voice is very good, and when I've had 
it read the odd newspaper article I've been really impressed with how natural 
it sounds. I believe in the US it can read Kindle books (as opposed to 
Audible/Audio books) but sadly that function isn't available in the UK so far. 
If it were I might be tempted to buy a few books from the Kindle store.

John

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 27 November 2016 14:54
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?

Yes, we�re discussing the Amazon Echo on another list as it happens and I just 
wanted to confirm that the Dot indeed is a battery unit.
The whole Voice recognition game has gone ahead ahead in leaps and bounds, 
obviously I don�t have an Amazon Echo - not yet - or a Google Home but I do 
have my Samsung Galaxy S6 with �OK Google� and �Google Now� installed and the 
things that combination can do - if you�re prepared to spend the time to speak 
your mind as the saying goes - is astonishing.
For example I can tell the phone to �Play Radio 1070 KNX with Tunein� to which 
Google responds, �Playing KNX 1070 News Radio� and that you then hear.
To stop playing all I have to do is to wake up google , �Ok Google� and say, 
�Stop Play�, to which Google Responds, �Sure!�.
I have Google do a whole heap of other things besides, I just mentioned this 
example as its one I�ve only refined the voice commands for over the last few 
days, practise makes perfect .

> On 28 Nov. 2016, at 1:42 am, John Gurd  wrote:
> 
> Yes, it's the smaller unit by far but has all the features of it's bigger 
> sibling. The Dot can be connected by audio cable to a larger speaker or even 
> an amplifier. I haven't done this. It also has Bluetooth. There is a misnomer 
> that it doesn't have a built-in speaker but it does. The sound quality is 
> much like an old-fashioned transistor radio but I have listened to music from 
> a random playlist in the background from amazon Prime and it is okay for 
> casual radio listening. I can also tell it to connect via Bluetooth to my 
> iPhone and play my book from the Voice Dream app via the Dot. It certainly 
> sounds fine and can play at a reasonable volume for the equivalent of a 
> transistor radio. 
> 
> If I should be fortunate to get the bigger Echo for Xmas I'll keep it in the 
> living room and move the Dot to the bedroom. That way I can use it to control 
> the heating and lighting from either place by voice and it will serve as an 
> alarm clock as well. Incidentally, it also tells Jokes and Interesting Facts 
> on demand. In fact it is quite a good dictionary and calculator too.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: 27 November 2016 02:27
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?
> 
> The Echo Dot is the smaller unit right? Does it run on battery power too?
> 
>> On 27 Nov. 2016, at 6:58 am, John Gurd  wrote:
>> 
>> I just got the Echo Dot to try it out as I already have a Hive home 
>> connected system. I can control some lights and the central heating 
>> thermostat with it. It's fairly rudimentary but has a lot of potential  that 
>> I hope will be realised in the near future. I've found it handy for a quick 
>> news summary, checking my local train service, and for simple questions and 
>> even a casual dip into radio such as BBC radio 4. Overall, I like it enough 
>> to anticipate getting its bigger brother for Xmas. 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim 
>> Noseworthy
>> Sent: 25 November 2016 11:43
>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?
>> 
>> Hi:
>> 
>> In my opinion, if you're not wanting to use Audible, Google home wins the 
>> vote; however, if Audible is important, then forget Google home.  I 

Re: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?

2016-11-27 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yes, we’re discussing the Amazon Echo on another list as it happens and I just 
wanted to confirm that the Dot indeed is a battery unit.
The whole Voice recognition game has gone ahead ahead in leaps and bounds, 
obviously I don’t have an Amazon Echo - not yet - or a Google Home but I do 
have my Samsung Galaxy S6 with “OK Google” and “Google Now” installed and the 
things that combination can do - if you’re prepared to spend the time to speak 
your mind as the saying goes - is astonishing.
For example I can tell the phone to “Play Radio 1070 KNX with Tunein” to which 
Google responds, “Playing KNX 1070 News Radio” and that you then hear.
To stop playing all I have to do is to wake up google , “Ok Google” and say, 
“Stop Play”, to which Google Responds, “Sure!”.
I have Google do a whole heap of other things besides, I just mentioned this 
example as its one I’ve only refined the voice commands for over the last few 
days, practise makes perfect .

> On 28 Nov. 2016, at 1:42 am, John Gurd  wrote:
> 
> Yes, it's the smaller unit by far but has all the features of it's bigger 
> sibling. The Dot can be connected by audio cable to a larger speaker or even 
> an amplifier. I haven't done this. It also has Bluetooth. There is a misnomer 
> that it doesn't have a built-in speaker but it does. The sound quality is 
> much like an old-fashioned transistor radio but I have listened to music from 
> a random playlist in the background from amazon Prime and it is okay for 
> casual radio listening. I can also tell it to connect via Bluetooth to my 
> iPhone and play my book from the Voice Dream app via the Dot. It certainly 
> sounds fine and can play at a reasonable volume for the equivalent of a 
> transistor radio. 
> 
> If I should be fortunate to get the bigger Echo for Xmas I'll keep it in the 
> living room and move the Dot to the bedroom. That way I can use it to control 
> the heating and lighting from either place by voice and it will serve as an 
> alarm clock as well. Incidentally, it also tells Jokes and Interesting Facts 
> on demand. In fact it is quite a good dictionary and calculator too.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: 27 November 2016 02:27
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?
> 
> The Echo Dot is the smaller unit right? Does it run on battery power too?
> 
>> On 27 Nov. 2016, at 6:58 am, John Gurd  wrote:
>> 
>> I just got the Echo Dot to try it out as I already have a Hive home 
>> connected system. I can control some lights and the central heating 
>> thermostat with it. It's fairly rudimentary but has a lot of potential  that 
>> I hope will be realised in the near future. I've found it handy for a quick 
>> news summary, checking my local train service, and for simple questions and 
>> even a casual dip into radio such as BBC radio 4. Overall, I like it enough 
>> to anticipate getting its bigger brother for Xmas. 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim 
>> Noseworthy
>> Sent: 25 November 2016 11:43
>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?
>> 
>> Hi:
>> 
>> In my opinion, if you're not wanting to use Audible, Google home wins the 
>> vote; however, if Audible is important, then forget Google home.  I have 
>> access to both devices.
>> 
>> Cheers.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
>> Trethowan
>> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:53 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
>> Subject: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?
>> 
>> All I can say is that Home and Echo are incredibly powerful tools as this 
>> article demonstrates all too clearly.
>> http://newatlas.com/amazon-echo-vs-google-home/46423/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers_campaign=4cc9032d68-UA-2235360-4_medium=email_term=0_65b67362bd-4cc9032d68-92350869
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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> halfwits in this world behind.
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RE: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?

2016-11-27 Thread John Gurd
Yes, it's the smaller unit by far but has all the features of it's bigger 
sibling. The Dot can be connected by audio cable to a larger speaker or even an 
amplifier. I haven't done this. It also has Bluetooth. There is a misnomer that 
it doesn't have a built-in speaker but it does. The sound quality is much like 
an old-fashioned transistor radio but I have listened to music from a random 
playlist in the background from amazon Prime and it is okay for casual radio 
listening. I can also tell it to connect via Bluetooth to my iPhone and play my 
book from the Voice Dream app via the Dot. It certainly sounds fine and can 
play at a reasonable volume for the equivalent of a transistor radio. 

If I should be fortunate to get the bigger Echo for Xmas I'll keep it in the 
living room and move the Dot to the bedroom. That way I can use it to control 
the heating and lighting from either place by voice and it will serve as an 
alarm clock as well. Incidentally, it also tells Jokes and Interesting Facts on 
demand. In fact it is quite a good dictionary and calculator too.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 27 November 2016 02:27
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?

The Echo Dot is the smaller unit right? Does it run on battery power too?

> On 27 Nov. 2016, at 6:58 am, John Gurd  wrote:
> 
> I just got the Echo Dot to try it out as I already have a Hive home connected 
> system. I can control some lights and the central heating thermostat with it. 
> It's fairly rudimentary but has a lot of potential  that I hope will be 
> realised in the near future. I've found it handy for a quick news summary, 
> checking my local train service, and for simple questions and even a casual 
> dip into radio such as BBC radio 4. Overall, I like it enough to anticipate 
> getting its bigger brother for Xmas. 
> 
> John
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim 
> Noseworthy
> Sent: 25 November 2016 11:43
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?
> 
> Hi:
> 
> In my opinion, if you're not wanting to use Audible, Google home wins the 
> vote; however, if Audible is important, then forget Google home.  I have 
> access to both devices.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:53 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Who's the better BFF: Amazon Echo or Google Home?
> 
> All I can say is that Home and Echo are incredibly powerful tools as this 
> article demonstrates all too clearly.
> http://newatlas.com/amazon-echo-vs-google-home/46423/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers_campaign=4cc9032d68-UA-2235360-4_medium=email_term=0_65b67362bd-4cc9032d68-92350869
> 
> -- 
> 
> **
> ?Oh, I?m an activist and I?m OK / I sleep all night and I tweet all day.?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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