Re: Arcam MusicBoost

[Dane Trethowan]

They're selling like hot cakes here and they're not easy to get right now.

Google recently had a "Back To School" offer for these phones which 
hasn't done anything apart from make them more scarce to get than ever.


The P6 from google and the S6 from Samsung are amongst the best smart 
devices about at this time.




On 6/02/2016 9:54 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
I am thinking to by a google nexus p6.
/A

On 04 Feb 2016, at 19:30, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:

Yep, that they were.

Regarding iPhone 6S? Well my opinion for what its worth but I think the S6 from 
Samsung has more going for it, every time I pick up that device I’m always 
discovering something new, I like the quality feel and balanced hold, the 
wonderful sound and so on.

When I pick up the Apple 6S? Well it just feels very humdrum, nothing new 
really and nothing much to write home about, a little sluggish and clunky 
compared to the S6 in most things.

Now don’t get me wrong, the Apple 6S is still a great phone but what it does 
show is that Apple have a hell of a lot to think about with the upcoming iPhone 
7 if they still want to remain in the race.



On 5 Feb 2016, at 5:23 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Hmm, interesting. Sounds like Apple might have been stung into avoiding a
repeat of stories like those about the bendy 6 Plus.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: 04 February 2016 18:08
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost

The 6S is slightly thicker due to its tough construction of steel frame, I
read this in a review of the 6S a week or so back.



On 5 Feb 2016, at 5:03 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Hi Mary,
I'm surprised too. a lot of cases do fit both models. And until I got
it I always thought the 6 and 6S were exactly the same size. I suspect
it might be a design oversight on the part of Arcam. There's only a
5th of a millimetre difference in the thickness of the phones but that
makes all the difference with a case that is already a tight fit and very

rigid.

John

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Mary Otten
Sent: 02 February 2016 17:13
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost

Well, I have to say I'm sorry to hear that about the tight fit. Hard
to believe they would just come out with a product that is made for a
phone which is now a year and a half old and won't fit the current model.

Mary




**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the
halfwits in this world behind.





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Re: Arcam MusicBoost

[Mary Otten]

Anders, try to get your hands on one and actually use it before you
spend the money. I hear the audio is really good. But for other things,
anything involving the use of webviews, the experience on Android is
not at all up to the standard you are use to with ios. If you're ok
with not being able to efficiently use the web on your device, and you
don't mind a sub-par experience editing text, then go for it.

I purchased a Nexus 6 because I had heard how great the experience was
now, how much improved over what it was when I bought a Nexus 7 a few
years back. I suppose when you improve from really terrible to just
sort of terrible, you can say it is greatly improved. And the audio on
the 6p is suppose to be really great. But for an overall main device, I
would never, ever have an android phone until they clean up their act
with how talkback works with html and how text editing works and how
the scrolling is not as smooth as with ios and I could go on, but
won't, since this is an audio list.

Mary

Re: Arcam MusicBoost

[Dane Trethowan]

Ah, I haven't seen any mention of that but I can have a look on the 
official aptX page and see if its mentioned, the Samsung S6 certainly is.




On 6/02/2016 10:06 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
I hope that it has the atpx protocol.
/A

On 06 Feb 2016, at 00:00, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:

They're selling like hot cakes here and they're not easy to get right now.

Google recently had a "Back To School" offer for these phones which hasn't done 
anything apart from make them more scarce to get than ever.

The P6 from google and the S6 from Samsung are amongst the best smart devices 
about at this time.



On 6/02/2016 9:54 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
I am thinking to by a google nexus p6.
/A

On 04 Feb 2016, at 19:30, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:

Yep, that they were.

Regarding iPhone 6S? Well my opinion for what its worth but I think the S6 from 
Samsung has more going for it, every time I pick up that device I’m always 
discovering something new, I like the quality feel and balanced hold, the 
wonderful sound and so on.

When I pick up the Apple 6S? Well it just feels very humdrum, nothing new 
really and nothing much to write home about, a little sluggish and clunky 
compared to the S6 in most things.

Now don’t get me wrong, the Apple 6S is still a great phone but what it does 
show is that Apple have a hell of a lot to think about with the upcoming iPhone 
7 if they still want to remain in the race.



On 5 Feb 2016, at 5:23 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Hmm, interesting. Sounds like Apple might have been stung into avoiding a
repeat of stories like those about the bendy 6 Plus.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: 04 February 2016 18:08
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost

The 6S is slightly thicker due to its tough construction of steel frame, I
read this in a review of the 6S a week or so back.



On 5 Feb 2016, at 5:03 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Hi Mary,
I'm surprised too. a lot of cases do fit both models. And until I got
it I always thought the 6 and 6S were exactly the same size. I suspect
it might be a design oversight on the part of Arcam. There's only a
5th of a millimetre difference in the thickness of the phones but that
makes all the difference with a case that is already a tight fit and very

rigid.

John

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Mary Otten
Sent: 02 February 2016 17:13
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost

Well, I have to say I'm sorry to hear that about the tight fit. Hard
to believe they would just come out with a product that is made for a
phone which is now a year and a half old and won't fit the current model.

Mary




**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the
halfwits in this world behind.





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Re: Arcam MusicBoost

[Dane Trethowan]

Okay well being a Android user myself I'd like to make a few comments.

Firstly regarding the new Google Nexus P6 and atpX? I've just looked and 
this phone doesn't have that facility, none of the Nexus phones do it 
seems so that's a shame but yep the audio apart from that is very good 
I'm told.


My experience with Android has only extended over some of the Samsung 
models of phones so I can't comment on them all.


Unlike IOS Android can be a very different ball game depending on the 
device you use.


Editing with the Samsung took me a little getting used to and it can be 
pain staking I admit but can be done, I don't use my Samsung Galaxy S6 - 
nor my IOS devices - to write books, essays or long emails - well at 
least I don't use the touch screen keyboard - I have Bluetooth keyboards 
to do that sort of thing and - from that point of view - editing with 
the Samsung is a far better experience given that the keyboard commands 
are very Windows PC like and logical.


I won't go on further about this but if you want to know more then 
you'll find plenty of documentation on the subjects raised here or you 
might consider joining the vi-android list.


And before I close I believe the onscreen keyboards I've used with my 
Samsung devices - the default Samsung onscreen keyboard - is far easier 
to use than that given to us on an IS device given that all the letters 
and numbers are present on the screen.




On 6/02/2016 10:09 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

Anders, try to get your hands on one and actually use it before you
spend the money. I hear the audio is really good. But for other things,
anything involving the use of webviews, the experience on Android is
not at all up to the standard you are use to with ios. If you're ok
with not being able to efficiently use the web on your device, and you
don't mind a sub-par experience editing text, then go for it.

I purchased a Nexus 6 because I had heard how great the experience was
now, how much improved over what it was when I bought a Nexus 7 a few
years back. I suppose when you improve from really terrible to just
sort of terrible, you can say it is greatly improved. And the audio on
the 6p is suppose to be really great. But for an overall main device, I
would never, ever have an android phone until they clean up their act
with how talkback works with html and how text editing works and how
the scrolling is not as smooth as with ios and I could go on, but
won't, since this is an audio list.

Mary




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Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves

Re: Arcam MusicBoost

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Why not use vlc for iphone instead.
Sounds great.
/A
> On 04 Feb 2016, at 19:25, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
> Yep, its really annoying about that short cord, not a deal breaker I know but 
> annoying all the same and for the very same reason you used for your example.
> 
> Yes, as has been suggested one can buy an extension cable but really it is 
> surprising that B didn’t include a longer cable given they give us 2 
> already or at lease give us the option of buying a loner cable.
> 
> Just to put those in the picture who don’t know the B P7 headphones, the 
> cuffs around the ears attach to the frame magnetically and under the right is 
> where the cable for the cans can be disconnected or connected at will.
> 
> The P7’s come with 2 cables, one to be used with a mobile device and another 
> to be used with standard equipment such as Hi-Fi systems, portable stereo 
> players and so on.
> 
> The Mobile cable has an in-line controller and microphone as part of it so 
> you can take incoming calls, control the music and so on.
> 
> Have you tried at least playing some lossless content through your P7’s via 
> your mobile phone? iTunes will handle Lossless M4A I think but for FLAC 
> you’ll have to get a third party player like oPlayer HD, yep one of those 
> annoying things about the iPhone but there we are.
> 
> Anyhow I can tell you that FLAC along with other lossless content through the 
> P7’s and a decent DAC sounds superb without a doubt and when you’ve heard 
> that? Well you’re on your way to discovering HD files, wet your appetite you 
> know .
> 
> 
>> On 5 Feb 2016, at 5:15 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Dane
>> 
>> Yes, the P7s are the best I've heard and they've come down in price, at 
>> least on Amazon UK. I think I paid about £350 for them originally but I saw 
>> them recently for about£270. 
>> 
>> I'd love to try them with some high resolution 24 bit music but as yet I 
>> haven't got around to it. So far I've used them exclusively with my iPhone 
>> which is somewhat remiss as I have a fairly high-spec system. The fact that 
>> the cord is so short and I don't have a chair near my amplifier doesn't 
>> help. 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
>> Trethowan
>> Sent: 02 February 2016 19:40
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost 
>> 
>> Yes that s a shame about the 6S so I ve therefore decided to purchase the 
>> Chord Mojo, something similar one might say but it doesn t follow the case 
>> idea.
>> 
>> Actually the Mojo is a standard type of DAC in a shell about the size of an 
>> iPhone though thinner.
>> 
>> The Mojo can be used with a wider variety of devices - everything from 
>> iPhone to Samsung S6 - and you can even hook it up to stereo components if 
>> you want given the Mojo has several digital inputs.
>> 
>> Of course that s not knocking the Music Boost and that would have been my 
>> preference, something to enclose my iPhone 6S.
>> 
>> If you re a lover of music then you really don t know what you re missing 
>> until you ve heard it through a DAC from Arcam, Chord or one of those 
>> manufacturers who dedicate their existence to DAC S.
>> 
>> And you have a pair of B P7 s as do I.
>> 
>> Perhaps you would echo my thought process when I say that these cans are a 
>> bargain for their price, sounds as though you re listening to a 30 inch 
>> sub-woofer and some silky tweeters not forgetting those power mid range 
>> speakers right up close.
>> 
>> My only annoyances about these cans is that they don t come with a longer 
>> leader for Hi-Fi listening and I m a little surprised that B don t offer 
>> one as an optional attachment.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3 Feb 2016, at 3:31 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got my Arcam MusicBoost a few weeks ago and I've been meaning to 
>>> write about it for a while.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> First of all the DAC sounds great with the B P7s as you might 
>>> expect. I mostly listened the music from the Apple Music service so 
>>> there was a limit to the definition (256 bitrate). However, it sounds 
>>> very detailed and natural with plenty of seperation. As it is a 
>>> headphone amp as well there is plenty of volume if necessary and the 
>>> music has a nice feel of power in reserve. Bass when

Re: Arcam MusicBoost

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I am thinking to by a google nexus p6.
/A
> On 04 Feb 2016, at 19:30, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
> Yep, that they were.
> 
> Regarding iPhone 6S? Well my opinion for what its worth but I think the S6 
> from Samsung has more going for it, every time I pick up that device I’m 
> always discovering something new, I like the quality feel and balanced hold, 
> the wonderful sound and so on.
> 
> When I pick up the Apple 6S? Well it just feels very humdrum, nothing new 
> really and nothing much to write home about, a little sluggish and clunky 
> compared to the S6 in most things.
> 
> Now don’t get me wrong, the Apple 6S is still a great phone but what it does 
> show is that Apple have a hell of a lot to think about with the upcoming 
> iPhone 7 if they still want to remain in the race.
> 
> 
>> On 5 Feb 2016, at 5:23 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm, interesting. Sounds like Apple might have been stung into avoiding a
>> repeat of stories like those about the bendy 6 Plus. 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
>> Trethowan
>> Sent: 04 February 2016 18:08
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost
>> 
>> The 6S is slightly thicker due to its tough construction of steel frame, I
>> read this in a review of the 6S a week or so back.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 5 Feb 2016, at 5:03 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> I'm surprised too. a lot of cases do fit both models. And until I got 
>>> it I always thought the 6 and 6S were exactly the same size. I suspect 
>>> it might be a design oversight on the part of Arcam. There's only a 
>>> 5th of a millimetre difference in the thickness of the phones but that 
>>> makes all the difference with a case that is already a tight fit and very
>> rigid.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Mary Otten
>>> Sent: 02 February 2016 17:13
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost
>>> 
>>> Well, I have to say I'm sorry to hear that about the tight fit. Hard 
>>> to believe they would just come out with a product that is made for a 
>>> phone which is now a year and a half old and won't fit the current model.
>>> 
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> **
>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the
>> halfwits in this world behind.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 

Re: Arcam MusicBoost

[Dane Trethowan]

I did say third party player did I not? VLC is one yes.



On 6/02/2016 9:53 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Why not use vlc for iphone instead.
Sounds great.
/A

On 04 Feb 2016, at 19:25, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:

Yep, its really annoying about that short cord, not a deal breaker I know but 
annoying all the same and for the very same reason you used for your example.

Yes, as has been suggested one can buy an extension cable but really it is 
surprising that B didn’t include a longer cable given they give us 2 already 
or at lease give us the option of buying a loner cable.

Just to put those in the picture who don’t know the B P7 headphones, the 
cuffs around the ears attach to the frame magnetically and under the right is where 
the cable for the cans can be disconnected or connected at will.

The P7’s come with 2 cables, one to be used with a mobile device and another to 
be used with standard equipment such as Hi-Fi systems, portable stereo players 
and so on.

The Mobile cable has an in-line controller and microphone as part of it so you 
can take incoming calls, control the music and so on.

Have you tried at least playing some lossless content through your P7’s via 
your mobile phone? iTunes will handle Lossless M4A I think but for FLAC you’ll 
have to get a third party player like oPlayer HD, yep one of those annoying 
things about the iPhone but there we are.

Anyhow I can tell you that FLAC along with other lossless content through the P7’s 
and a decent DAC sounds superb without a doubt and when you’ve heard that? Well 
you’re on your way to discovering HD files, wet your appetite you know .



On 5 Feb 2016, at 5:15 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Hi Dane

Yes, the P7s are the best I've heard and they've come down in price, at least 
on Amazon UK. I think I paid about £350 for them originally but I saw them 
recently for about£270.

I'd love to try them with some high resolution 24 bit music but as yet I 
haven't got around to it. So far I've used them exclusively with my iPhone 
which is somewhat remiss as I have a fairly high-spec system. The fact that the 
cord is so short and I don't have a chair near my amplifier doesn't help.

John

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 02 February 2016 19:40
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost

Yes that s a shame about the 6S so I ve therefore decided to purchase the Chord 
Mojo, something similar one might say but it doesn t follow the case idea.

Actually the Mojo is a standard type of DAC in a shell about the size of an 
iPhone though thinner.

The Mojo can be used with a wider variety of devices - everything from iPhone 
to Samsung S6 - and you can even hook it up to stereo components if you want 
given the Mojo has several digital inputs.

Of course that s not knocking the Music Boost and that would have been my 
preference, something to enclose my iPhone 6S.

If you re a lover of music then you really don t know what you re missing until 
you ve heard it through a DAC from Arcam, Chord or one of those manufacturers 
who dedicate their existence to DAC S.

And you have a pair of B P7 s as do I.

Perhaps you would echo my thought process when I say that these cans are a 
bargain for their price, sounds as though you re listening to a 30 inch 
sub-woofer and some silky tweeters not forgetting those power mid range 
speakers right up close.

My only annoyances about these cans is that they don t come with a longer leader 
for Hi-Fi listening and I m a little surprised that B don t offer one as an 
optional attachment.



On 3 Feb 2016, at 3:31 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

I got my Arcam MusicBoost a few weeks ago and I've been meaning to
write about it for a while.



First of all the DAC sounds great with the B P7s as you might
expect. I mostly listened the music from the Apple Music service so
there was a limit to the definition (256 bitrate). However, it sounds
very detailed and natural with plenty of seperation. As it is a
headphone amp as well there is plenty of volume if necessary and the
music has a nice feel of power in reserve. Bass when present has loads
of umph but very well controlled and by no means overwhelming.



The unit is a hard shell with a velvety feel that is almost slippery.
The fit is very tight for an iPhone 6 and there is no wiggle room at
all. I struggle sometimes to remove the phone from the MusicBoost. You
can't pull it out by the phone's sides even though they can be gripped
from about halfway up. You have to get your fingernails between the
bottom edge of the phone and the unit and it can take more than one
attempt. So there is no way an iPhone 6S should be inserted into it!
Well, it can be forced but you'll never get it back!



There is a tiny button on the bottom front left of the unit and
pressing it in for a few seconds gets it chargi

Re: Arcam MusicBoost

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I hope that it has the atpx protocol.
/A
> On 06 Feb 2016, at 00:00, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
> They're selling like hot cakes here and they're not easy to get right now.
> 
> Google recently had a "Back To School" offer for these phones which hasn't 
> done anything apart from make them more scarce to get than ever.
> 
> The P6 from google and the S6 from Samsung are amongst the best smart devices 
> about at this time.
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/02/2016 9:54 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>> Hi!
>> I am thinking to by a google nexus p6.
>> /A
>>> On 04 Feb 2016, at 19:30, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yep, that they were.
>>> 
>>> Regarding iPhone 6S? Well my opinion for what its worth but I think the S6 
>>> from Samsung has more going for it, every time I pick up that device I’m 
>>> always discovering something new, I like the quality feel and balanced 
>>> hold, the wonderful sound and so on.
>>> 
>>> When I pick up the Apple 6S? Well it just feels very humdrum, nothing new 
>>> really and nothing much to write home about, a little sluggish and clunky 
>>> compared to the S6 in most things.
>>> 
>>> Now don’t get me wrong, the Apple 6S is still a great phone but what it 
>>> does show is that Apple have a hell of a lot to think about with the 
>>> upcoming iPhone 7 if they still want to remain in the race.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 5 Feb 2016, at 5:23 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hmm, interesting. Sounds like Apple might have been stung into avoiding a
>>>> repeat of stories like those about the bendy 6 Plus.
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
>>>> Trethowan
>>>> Sent: 04 February 2016 18:08
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost
>>>> 
>>>> The 6S is slightly thicker due to its tough construction of steel frame, I
>>>> read this in a review of the 6S a week or so back.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 5 Feb 2016, at 5:03 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Mary,
>>>>> I'm surprised too. a lot of cases do fit both models. And until I got
>>>>> it I always thought the 6 and 6S were exactly the same size. I suspect
>>>>> it might be a design oversight on the part of Arcam. There's only a
>>>>> 5th of a millimetre difference in the thickness of the phones but that
>>>>> makes all the difference with a case that is already a tight fit and very
>>>> rigid.
>>>>> John
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>> Mary Otten
>>>>> Sent: 02 February 2016 17:13
>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, I have to say I'm sorry to hear that about the tight fit. Hard
>>>>> to believe they would just come out with a product that is made for a
>>>>> phone which is now a year and a half old and won't fit the current model.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> **
>>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the
>>>> halfwits in this world behind.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> **
>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
>>> halfwits in this world behind.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> **
> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
> 
> 

Re: Arcam MusicBoost

[Mary Otten]

Oh, I don't do much with the onscreen keyboard except for a few words
of typing filling in forms and such. I dictate anything longer than
that with good effect, and editing the results, when necessary is where
IOS beats the pants off of android on my Nexus device. Try before you
buy when possible is always good advice, and that is especially true if
you have been using a system for years and might take certain things it
does pretty well for granted.

Mary

Re: Arcam MusicBoost

[Dane Trethowan]

I Didn't think for one minute that a talented person such as you Mary 
would be writing a 200 page report on an onscreen keyboard of any 
description 


Keyboard entry has improved quite significantly in the later builds of 
Android to the point where getting around is far easier than it was, as 
I said one can use standard Windows commands on the keyboard to navigate 
and edit.


There are problems with the keyboard entry on my IOS device and I'll 
mention it here since the subject has been bought up, the problem I've 
noticed is when backspacing, VoiceOver just mutes and then starts 
speaking after 4 or 5 presses of the backspace key by that time you've 
probably deleted crucial characters and even then, the cursor isn't 
where you think it ought to be.




On 6/02/2016 10:44 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

Oh, I don't do much with the onscreen keyboard except for a few words
of typing filling in forms and such. I dictate anything longer than
that with good effect, and editing the results, when necessary is where
IOS beats the pants off of android on my Nexus device. Try before you
buy when possible is always good advice, and that is especially true if
you have been using a system for years and might take certain things it
does pretty well for granted.

Mary




--

**
Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves

RE: Arcam MusicBoost

[John Gurd]

I'm just curious... Do you actually use two phones? Do you have two numbers or 
do you juggle a sim card from one to the other?

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 04 February 2016 18:30
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost

Yep, that they were.

Regarding iPhone 6S? Well my opinion for what its worth but I think the S6 from 
Samsung has more going for it, every time I pick up that device I m always 
discovering something new, I like the quality feel and balanced hold, the 
wonderful sound and so on.

When I pick up the Apple 6S? Well it just feels very humdrum, nothing new 
really and nothing much to write home about, a little sluggish and clunky 
compared to the S6 in most things.

Now don t get me wrong, the Apple 6S is still a great phone but what it does 
show is that Apple have a hell of a lot to think about with the upcoming iPhone 
7 if they still want to remain in the race.


> On 5 Feb 2016, at 5:23 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> Hmm, interesting. Sounds like Apple might have been stung into 
> avoiding a repeat of stories like those about the bendy 6 Plus.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Dane Trethowan
> Sent: 04 February 2016 18:08
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost
> 
> The 6S is slightly thicker due to its tough construction of steel 
> frame, I read this in a review of the 6S a week or so back.
> 
> 
>> On 5 Feb 2016, at 5:03 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> I'm surprised too. a lot of cases do fit both models. And until I got 
>> it I always thought the 6 and 6S were exactly the same size. I 
>> suspect it might be a design oversight on the part of Arcam. There's 
>> only a 5th of a millimetre difference in the thickness of the phones 
>> but that makes all the difference with a case that is already a tight 
>> fit and very
> rigid.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: 02 February 2016 17:13
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost
>> 
>> Well, I have to say I'm sorry to hear that about the tight fit. Hard 
>> to believe they would just come out with a product that is made for a 
>> phone which is now a year and a half old and won't fit the current model.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of 
> the halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Arcam MusicBoost

[Dane Trethowan]

The 6S is slightly thicker due to its tough construction of steel frame, I read 
this in a review of the 6S a week or so back.


> On 5 Feb 2016, at 5:03 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> I'm surprised too. a lot of cases do fit both models. And until I got it I
> always thought the 6 and 6S were exactly the same size. I suspect it might
> be a design oversight on the part of Arcam. There's only a 5th of a
> millimetre difference in the thickness of the phones but that makes all the
> difference with a case that is already a tight fit and very rigid. 
> 
> John
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
> Otten
> Sent: 02 February 2016 17:13
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost
> 
> Well, I have to say I'm sorry to hear that about the tight fit. Hard to
> believe they would just come out with a product that is made for a phone
> which is now a year and a half old and won't fit the current model. 
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

RE: Arcam MusicBoost

[John Gurd]

Hi Anders

In the UK the MusicBoost is £120 stirling.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders
Holmberg
Sent: 02 February 2016 22:40
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost 

Hi!
Whats the cost of this unit?
I am about to buy an android phone so i may not have enough money for this
unit but it sure sounds intresting.
/
> On 02 Feb 2016, at 17:31, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> I got my Arcam MusicBoost a few weeks ago and I've been meaning to 
> write about it for a while.
> 
> 
> 
> First of all the DAC sounds great with the B P7s as you might 
> expect. I mostly listened the music from the Apple Music service so 
> there was a limit to the definition (256 bitrate). However, it sounds 
> very detailed and natural with plenty of seperation. As it is a 
> headphone amp as well there is plenty of volume if necessary and the 
> music has a nice feel of power in reserve. Bass when present has loads 
> of umph but very well controlled and by no means overwhelming.
> 
> 
> 
> The unit is a hard shell with a velvety feel that is almost slippery. 
> The fit is very tight for an iPhone 6 and there is no wiggle room at 
> all. I struggle sometimes to remove the phone from the MusicBoost. You 
> can't pull it out by the phone's sides even though they can be gripped 
> from about halfway up. You have to get your fingernails between the 
> bottom edge of the phone and the unit and it can take more than one 
> attempt. So there is no way an iPhone 6S should be inserted into it! 
> Well, it can be forced but you'll never get it back!
> 
> 
> 
> There is a tiny button on the bottom front left of the unit and 
> pressing it in for a few seconds gets it charging the phone. Like a 
> lot of charging cases it feels light but once united with the iPhone 
> the combined weight is quite hefty in the hand. I usually keep my 
> phone in a trouser or jeans pocket but it's too heavy to be 
> comfortable with the case. So I use the musicBoost when I want to do 
> some undivided listening and it's certainly handy to have in a bag to 
> breakout it the iPhone needs a charge boost on the go.
> 
> 
> 
> Overall, it sounds fantastic and is great to have but I don't use it 
> all the time. But if you try to use a 6S with it I think you'll find 
> it will be permanently attached!
> 
> 
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 

RE: Arcam MusicBoost

[John Gurd]

Hi Dane

Yes, the P7s are the best I've heard and they've come down in price, at least 
on Amazon UK. I think I paid about £350 for them originally but I saw them 
recently for about£270. 

I'd love to try them with some high resolution 24 bit music but as yet I 
haven't got around to it. So far I've used them exclusively with my iPhone 
which is somewhat remiss as I have a fairly high-spec system. The fact that the 
cord is so short and I don't have a chair near my amplifier doesn't help. 

John

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 02 February 2016 19:40
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost 

Yes that s a shame about the 6S so I ve therefore decided to purchase the Chord 
Mojo, something similar one might say but it doesn t follow the case idea.

Actually the Mojo is a standard type of DAC in a shell about the size of an 
iPhone though thinner.

The Mojo can be used with a wider variety of devices - everything from iPhone 
to Samsung S6 - and you can even hook it up to stereo components if you want 
given the Mojo has several digital inputs.

Of course that s not knocking the Music Boost and that would have been my 
preference, something to enclose my iPhone 6S.

If you re a lover of music then you really don t know what you re missing until 
you ve heard it through a DAC from Arcam, Chord or one of those manufacturers 
who dedicate their existence to DAC S.

And you have a pair of B P7 s as do I.

Perhaps you would echo my thought process when I say that these cans are a 
bargain for their price, sounds as though you re listening to a 30 inch 
sub-woofer and some silky tweeters not forgetting those power mid range 
speakers right up close.

My only annoyances about these cans is that they don t come with a longer 
leader for Hi-Fi listening and I m a little surprised that B don t offer one 
as an optional attachment.


> On 3 Feb 2016, at 3:31 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> I got my Arcam MusicBoost a few weeks ago and I've been meaning to 
> write about it for a while.
> 
> 
> 
> First of all the DAC sounds great with the B P7s as you might 
> expect. I mostly listened the music from the Apple Music service so 
> there was a limit to the definition (256 bitrate). However, it sounds 
> very detailed and natural with plenty of seperation. As it is a 
> headphone amp as well there is plenty of volume if necessary and the 
> music has a nice feel of power in reserve. Bass when present has loads 
> of umph but very well controlled and by no means overwhelming.
> 
> 
> 
> The unit is a hard shell with a velvety feel that is almost slippery. 
> The fit is very tight for an iPhone 6 and there is no wiggle room at 
> all. I struggle sometimes to remove the phone from the MusicBoost. You 
> can't pull it out by the phone's sides even though they can be gripped 
> from about halfway up. You have to get your fingernails between the 
> bottom edge of the phone and the unit and it can take more than one 
> attempt. So there is no way an iPhone 6S should be inserted into it! 
> Well, it can be forced but you'll never get it back!
> 
> 
> 
> There is a tiny button on the bottom front left of the unit and 
> pressing it in for a few seconds gets it charging the phone. Like a 
> lot of charging cases it feels light but once united with the iPhone 
> the combined weight is quite hefty in the hand. I usually keep my 
> phone in a trouser or jeans pocket but it's too heavy to be 
> comfortable with the case. So I use the musicBoost when I want to do 
> some undivided listening and it's certainly handy to have in a bag to 
> breakout it the iPhone needs a charge boost on the go.
> 
> 
> 
> Overall, it sounds fantastic and is great to have but I don't use it 
> all the time. But if you try to use a 6S with it I think you'll find 
> it will be permanently attached!
> 
> 
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

RE: Arcam MusicBoost

[John Gurd]

Hmm, interesting. Sounds like Apple might have been stung into avoiding a
repeat of stories like those about the bendy 6 Plus. 

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: 04 February 2016 18:08
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost

The 6S is slightly thicker due to its tough construction of steel frame, I
read this in a review of the 6S a week or so back.


> On 5 Feb 2016, at 5:03 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> I'm surprised too. a lot of cases do fit both models. And until I got 
> it I always thought the 6 and 6S were exactly the same size. I suspect 
> it might be a design oversight on the part of Arcam. There's only a 
> 5th of a millimetre difference in the thickness of the phones but that 
> makes all the difference with a case that is already a tight fit and very
rigid.
> 
> John
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: 02 February 2016 17:13
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost
> 
> Well, I have to say I'm sorry to hear that about the tight fit. Hard 
> to believe they would just come out with a product that is made for a 
> phone which is now a year and a half old and won't fit the current model.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the
halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Arcam MusicBoost

[Dane Trethowan]

Yep, that they were.

Regarding iPhone 6S? Well my opinion for what its worth but I think the S6 from 
Samsung has more going for it, every time I pick up that device I’m always 
discovering something new, I like the quality feel and balanced hold, the 
wonderful sound and so on.

When I pick up the Apple 6S? Well it just feels very humdrum, nothing new 
really and nothing much to write home about, a little sluggish and clunky 
compared to the S6 in most things.

Now don’t get me wrong, the Apple 6S is still a great phone but what it does 
show is that Apple have a hell of a lot to think about with the upcoming iPhone 
7 if they still want to remain in the race.


> On 5 Feb 2016, at 5:23 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> Hmm, interesting. Sounds like Apple might have been stung into avoiding a
> repeat of stories like those about the bendy 6 Plus. 
> 
> John
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
> Trethowan
> Sent: 04 February 2016 18:08
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost
> 
> The 6S is slightly thicker due to its tough construction of steel frame, I
> read this in a review of the 6S a week or so back.
> 
> 
>> On 5 Feb 2016, at 5:03 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> I'm surprised too. a lot of cases do fit both models. And until I got 
>> it I always thought the 6 and 6S were exactly the same size. I suspect 
>> it might be a design oversight on the part of Arcam. There's only a 
>> 5th of a millimetre difference in the thickness of the phones but that 
>> makes all the difference with a case that is already a tight fit and very
> rigid.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: 02 February 2016 17:13
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost
>> 
>> Well, I have to say I'm sorry to hear that about the tight fit. Hard 
>> to believe they would just come out with a product that is made for a 
>> phone which is now a year and a half old and won't fit the current model.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the
> halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

RE: Arcam MusicBoost

[John Gurd]

Hi Mary,
I'm surprised too. a lot of cases do fit both models. And until I got it I
always thought the 6 and 6S were exactly the same size. I suspect it might
be a design oversight on the part of Arcam. There's only a 5th of a
millimetre difference in the thickness of the phones but that makes all the
difference with a case that is already a tight fit and very rigid. 

John

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: 02 February 2016 17:13
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost

Well, I have to say I'm sorry to hear that about the tight fit. Hard to
believe they would just come out with a product that is made for a phone
which is now a year and a half old and won't fit the current model. 

Mary

Re: Arcam MusicBoost

[Dane Trethowan]

Yep, its really annoying about that short cord, not a deal breaker I know but 
annoying all the same and for the very same reason you used for your example.

Yes, as has been suggested one can buy an extension cable but really it is 
surprising that B didn’t include a longer cable given they give us 2 already 
or at lease give us the option of buying a loner cable.

Just to put those in the picture who don’t know the B P7 headphones, the 
cuffs around the ears attach to the frame magnetically and under the right is 
where the cable for the cans can be disconnected or connected at will.

The P7’s come with 2 cables, one to be used with a mobile device and another to 
be used with standard equipment such as Hi-Fi systems, portable stereo players 
and so on.

The Mobile cable has an in-line controller and microphone as part of it so you 
can take incoming calls, control the music and so on.

Have you tried at least playing some lossless content through your P7’s via 
your mobile phone? iTunes will handle Lossless M4A I think but for FLAC you’ll 
have to get a third party player like oPlayer HD, yep one of those annoying 
things about the iPhone but there we are.

Anyhow I can tell you that FLAC along with other lossless content through the 
P7’s and a decent DAC sounds superb without a doubt and when you’ve heard that? 
Well you’re on your way to discovering HD files, wet your appetite you know 
.


> On 5 Feb 2016, at 5:15 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dane
> 
> Yes, the P7s are the best I've heard and they've come down in price, at least 
> on Amazon UK. I think I paid about £350 for them originally but I saw them 
> recently for about£270. 
> 
> I'd love to try them with some high resolution 24 bit music but as yet I 
> haven't got around to it. So far I've used them exclusively with my iPhone 
> which is somewhat remiss as I have a fairly high-spec system. The fact that 
> the cord is so short and I don't have a chair near my amplifier doesn't help. 
> 
> John
> 
> John
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: 02 February 2016 19:40
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost 
> 
> Yes that s a shame about the 6S so I ve therefore decided to purchase the 
> Chord Mojo, something similar one might say but it doesn t follow the case 
> idea.
> 
> Actually the Mojo is a standard type of DAC in a shell about the size of an 
> iPhone though thinner.
> 
> The Mojo can be used with a wider variety of devices - everything from iPhone 
> to Samsung S6 - and you can even hook it up to stereo components if you want 
> given the Mojo has several digital inputs.
> 
> Of course that s not knocking the Music Boost and that would have been my 
> preference, something to enclose my iPhone 6S.
> 
> If you re a lover of music then you really don t know what you re missing 
> until you ve heard it through a DAC from Arcam, Chord or one of those 
> manufacturers who dedicate their existence to DAC S.
> 
> And you have a pair of B P7 s as do I.
> 
> Perhaps you would echo my thought process when I say that these cans are a 
> bargain for their price, sounds as though you re listening to a 30 inch 
> sub-woofer and some silky tweeters not forgetting those power mid range 
> speakers right up close.
> 
> My only annoyances about these cans is that they don t come with a longer 
> leader for Hi-Fi listening and I m a little surprised that B don t offer 
> one as an optional attachment.
> 
> 
>> On 3 Feb 2016, at 3:31 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I got my Arcam MusicBoost a few weeks ago and I've been meaning to 
>> write about it for a while.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> First of all the DAC sounds great with the B P7s as you might 
>> expect. I mostly listened the music from the Apple Music service so 
>> there was a limit to the definition (256 bitrate). However, it sounds 
>> very detailed and natural with plenty of seperation. As it is a 
>> headphone amp as well there is plenty of volume if necessary and the 
>> music has a nice feel of power in reserve. Bass when present has loads 
>> of umph but very well controlled and by no means overwhelming.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The unit is a hard shell with a velvety feel that is almost slippery. 
>> The fit is very tight for an iPhone 6 and there is no wiggle room at 
>> all. I struggle sometimes to remove the phone from the MusicBoost. You 
>> can't pull it out by the phone's sides even though they can be gripped 
>> from about halfway up. You have to get your fingernails between the 
>> bottom edge of the phone and the unit and it can take

Re: Arcam MusicBoost

[Dane Trethowan]

Perhaps existing stock could be modified easily by the manufacturer.


> On 3 Feb 2016, at 4:12 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Well, I have to say I'm sorry to hear that about the tight fit. Hard to
> believe they would just come out with a product that is made for a
> phone which is now a year and a half old and won't fit the current
> model. 
> 
> Mary
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Arcam MusicBoost

[Dane Trethowan]

Yes that’s a shame about the 6S so I’ve therefore decided to purchase the Chord 
Mojo, something similar one might say but it doesn’t follow the case idea.

Actually the Mojo is a standard type of DAC in a shell about the size of an 
iPhone though thinner.

The Mojo can be used with a wider variety of devices - everything from iPhone 
to Samsung S6 - and you can even hook it up to stereo components if you want 
given the Mojo has several digital inputs.

Of course that’s not knocking the Music Boost and that would have been my 
preference, something to enclose my iPhone 6S.

If you’re a lover of music then you really don’t know what you’re missing until 
you’ve heard it through a DAC from Arcam, Chord or one of those manufacturers 
who dedicate their existence to DAC’S.

And you have a pair of B P7’s as do I.

Perhaps you would echo my thought process when I say that these cans are a 
bargain for their price, sounds as though you’re listening to a 30 inch 
sub-woofer and some silky tweeters not forgetting those power mid range 
speakers right up close.

My only annoyances about these cans is that they don’t come with a longer 
leader for Hi-Fi listening and I’m a little surprised that B don’t offer one 
as an optional attachment.


> On 3 Feb 2016, at 3:31 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> I got my Arcam MusicBoost a few weeks ago and I've been meaning to write
> about it for a while. 
> 
> 
> 
> First of all the DAC sounds great with the B P7s as you might expect. I
> mostly listened the music from the Apple Music service so there was a limit
> to the definition (256 bitrate). However, it sounds very detailed and
> natural with plenty of seperation. As it is a headphone amp as well there is
> plenty of volume if necessary and the music has a nice feel of power in
> reserve. Bass when present has loads of umph but very well controlled and by
> no means overwhelming. 
> 
> 
> 
> The unit is a hard shell with a velvety feel that is almost slippery. The
> fit is very tight for an iPhone 6 and there is no wiggle room at all. I
> struggle sometimes to remove the phone from the MusicBoost. You can't pull
> it out by the phone's sides even though they can be gripped from about
> halfway up. You have to get your fingernails between the bottom edge of the
> phone and the unit and it can take more than one attempt. So there is no way
> an iPhone 6S should be inserted into it! Well, it can be forced but you'll
> never get it back!
> 
> 
> 
> There is a tiny button on the bottom front left of the unit and pressing it
> in for a few seconds gets it charging the phone. Like a lot of charging
> cases it feels light but once united with the iPhone the combined weight is
> quite hefty in the hand. I usually keep my phone in a trouser or jeans
> pocket but it's too heavy to be comfortable with the case. So I use the
> musicBoost when I want to do some undivided listening and it's certainly
> handy to have in a bag to breakout it the iPhone needs a charge boost on the
> go.
> 
> 
> 
> Overall, it sounds fantastic and is great to have but I don't use it all the
> time. But if you try to use a 6S with it I think you'll find it will be
> permanently attached!
> 
> 
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Arcam MusicBoost

[Dane Trethowan]

The iPhone 5S is a completely different shape to the 6 so you’d be better off 
with something like the Chord Mojo.


> On 3 Feb 2016, at 5:14 AM, Vicky Vaughan <vrvaugha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Do you think that an iPhone 5S would work with it?
> 
> Many thanks! Vicky
> 
> -Original Message- From: John Gurd
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 11:31 AM
> To: PC Audio
> Subject: Arcam MusicBoost
> 
> I got my Arcam MusicBoost a few weeks ago and I've been meaning to write
> about it for a while.
> 
> 
> 
> First of all the DAC sounds great with the B P7s as you might expect. I
> mostly listened the music from the Apple Music service so there was a limit
> to the definition (256 bitrate). However, it sounds very detailed and
> natural with plenty of seperation. As it is a headphone amp as well there is
> plenty of volume if necessary and the music has a nice feel of power in
> reserve. Bass when present has loads of umph but very well controlled and by
> no means overwhelming.
> 
> 
> 
> The unit is a hard shell with a velvety feel that is almost slippery. The
> fit is very tight for an iPhone 6 and there is no wiggle room at all. I
> struggle sometimes to remove the phone from the MusicBoost. You can't pull
> it out by the phone's sides even though they can be gripped from about
> halfway up. You have to get your fingernails between the bottom edge of the
> phone and the unit and it can take more than one attempt. So there is no way
> an iPhone 6S should be inserted into it! Well, it can be forced but you'll
> never get it back!
> 
> 
> 
> There is a tiny button on the bottom front left of the unit and pressing it
> in for a few seconds gets it charging the phone. Like a lot of charging
> cases it feels light but once united with the iPhone the combined weight is
> quite hefty in the hand. I usually keep my phone in a trouser or jeans
> pocket but it's too heavy to be comfortable with the case. So I use the
> musicBoost when I want to do some undivided listening and it's certainly
> handy to have in a bag to breakout it the iPhone needs a charge boost on the
> go.
> 
> 
> 
> Overall, it sounds fantastic and is great to have but I don't use it all the
> time. But if you try to use a 6S with it I think you'll find it will be
> permanently attached!
> 
> 
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Arcam MusicBoost

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Whats the cost of this unit?
I am about to buy an android phone so i may not have enough money for this unit 
but it sure sounds intresting.
/
> On 02 Feb 2016, at 17:31, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> I got my Arcam MusicBoost a few weeks ago and I've been meaning to write
> about it for a while. 
> 
> 
> 
> First of all the DAC sounds great with the B P7s as you might expect. I
> mostly listened the music from the Apple Music service so there was a limit
> to the definition (256 bitrate). However, it sounds very detailed and
> natural with plenty of seperation. As it is a headphone amp as well there is
> plenty of volume if necessary and the music has a nice feel of power in
> reserve. Bass when present has loads of umph but very well controlled and by
> no means overwhelming. 
> 
> 
> 
> The unit is a hard shell with a velvety feel that is almost slippery. The
> fit is very tight for an iPhone 6 and there is no wiggle room at all. I
> struggle sometimes to remove the phone from the MusicBoost. You can't pull
> it out by the phone's sides even though they can be gripped from about
> halfway up. You have to get your fingernails between the bottom edge of the
> phone and the unit and it can take more than one attempt. So there is no way
> an iPhone 6S should be inserted into it! Well, it can be forced but you'll
> never get it back!
> 
> 
> 
> There is a tiny button on the bottom front left of the unit and pressing it
> in for a few seconds gets it charging the phone. Like a lot of charging
> cases it feels light but once united with the iPhone the combined weight is
> quite hefty in the hand. I usually keep my phone in a trouser or jeans
> pocket but it's too heavy to be comfortable with the case. So I use the
> musicBoost when I want to do some undivided listening and it's certainly
> handy to have in a bag to breakout it the iPhone needs a charge boost on the
> go.
> 
> 
> 
> Overall, it sounds fantastic and is great to have but I don't use it all the
> time. But if you try to use a 6S with it I think you'll find it will be
> permanently attached!
> 
> 
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 

Re: Arcam MusicBoost

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well you can buy a long cable and connect to the end of the p7 cable.
So do i when i don’t want to use my Sennheiser RS140.
/A
> On 02 Feb 2016, at 20:40, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
> Yes that’s a shame about the 6S so I’ve therefore decided to purchase the 
> Chord Mojo, something similar one might say but it doesn’t follow the case 
> idea.
> 
> Actually the Mojo is a standard type of DAC in a shell about the size of an 
> iPhone though thinner.
> 
> The Mojo can be used with a wider variety of devices - everything from iPhone 
> to Samsung S6 - and you can even hook it up to stereo components if you want 
> given the Mojo has several digital inputs.
> 
> Of course that’s not knocking the Music Boost and that would have been my 
> preference, something to enclose my iPhone 6S.
> 
> If you’re a lover of music then you really don’t know what you’re missing 
> until you’ve heard it through a DAC from Arcam, Chord or one of those 
> manufacturers who dedicate their existence to DAC’S.
> 
> And you have a pair of B P7’s as do I.
> 
> Perhaps you would echo my thought process when I say that these cans are a 
> bargain for their price, sounds as though you’re listening to a 30 inch 
> sub-woofer and some silky tweeters not forgetting those power mid range 
> speakers right up close.
> 
> My only annoyances about these cans is that they don’t come with a longer 
> leader for Hi-Fi listening and I’m a little surprised that B don’t offer 
> one as an optional attachment.
> 
> 
>> On 3 Feb 2016, at 3:31 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I got my Arcam MusicBoost a few weeks ago and I've been meaning to write
>> about it for a while. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> First of all the DAC sounds great with the B P7s as you might expect. I
>> mostly listened the music from the Apple Music service so there was a limit
>> to the definition (256 bitrate). However, it sounds very detailed and
>> natural with plenty of seperation. As it is a headphone amp as well there is
>> plenty of volume if necessary and the music has a nice feel of power in
>> reserve. Bass when present has loads of umph but very well controlled and by
>> no means overwhelming. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The unit is a hard shell with a velvety feel that is almost slippery. The
>> fit is very tight for an iPhone 6 and there is no wiggle room at all. I
>> struggle sometimes to remove the phone from the MusicBoost. You can't pull
>> it out by the phone's sides even though they can be gripped from about
>> halfway up. You have to get your fingernails between the bottom edge of the
>> phone and the unit and it can take more than one attempt. So there is no way
>> an iPhone 6S should be inserted into it! Well, it can be forced but you'll
>> never get it back!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> There is a tiny button on the bottom front left of the unit and pressing it
>> in for a few seconds gets it charging the phone. Like a lot of charging
>> cases it feels light but once united with the iPhone the combined weight is
>> quite hefty in the hand. I usually keep my phone in a trouser or jeans
>> pocket but it's too heavy to be comfortable with the case. So I use the
>> musicBoost when I want to do some undivided listening and it's certainly
>> handy to have in a bag to breakout it the iPhone needs a charge boost on the
>> go.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Overall, it sounds fantastic and is great to have but I don't use it all the
>> time. But if you try to use a 6S with it I think you'll find it will be
>> permanently attached!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 

Re: Arcam MusicBoost

[Dane Trethowan]

Yes you could but - given their are already 2 cables supplied that connect to 
the cans themselves - it would make sense I reckon for an optional longer cable 
to connect the same way, neater too.


> On 3 Feb 2016, at 9:43 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Well you can buy a long cable and connect to the end of the p7 cable.
> So do i when i don’t want to use my Sennheiser RS140.
> /A
>> On 02 Feb 2016, at 20:40, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes that’s a shame about the 6S so I’ve therefore decided to purchase the 
>> Chord Mojo, something similar one might say but it doesn’t follow the case 
>> idea.
>> 
>> Actually the Mojo is a standard type of DAC in a shell about the size of an 
>> iPhone though thinner.
>> 
>> The Mojo can be used with a wider variety of devices - everything from 
>> iPhone to Samsung S6 - and you can even hook it up to stereo components if 
>> you want given the Mojo has several digital inputs.
>> 
>> Of course that’s not knocking the Music Boost and that would have been my 
>> preference, something to enclose my iPhone 6S.
>> 
>> If you’re a lover of music then you really don’t know what you’re missing 
>> until you’ve heard it through a DAC from Arcam, Chord or one of those 
>> manufacturers who dedicate their existence to DAC’S.
>> 
>> And you have a pair of B P7’s as do I.
>> 
>> Perhaps you would echo my thought process when I say that these cans are a 
>> bargain for their price, sounds as though you’re listening to a 30 inch 
>> sub-woofer and some silky tweeters not forgetting those power mid range 
>> speakers right up close.
>> 
>> My only annoyances about these cans is that they don’t come with a longer 
>> leader for Hi-Fi listening and I’m a little surprised that B don’t offer 
>> one as an optional attachment.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3 Feb 2016, at 3:31 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got my Arcam MusicBoost a few weeks ago and I've been meaning to write
>>> about it for a while. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> First of all the DAC sounds great with the B P7s as you might expect. I
>>> mostly listened the music from the Apple Music service so there was a limit
>>> to the definition (256 bitrate). However, it sounds very detailed and
>>> natural with plenty of seperation. As it is a headphone amp as well there is
>>> plenty of volume if necessary and the music has a nice feel of power in
>>> reserve. Bass when present has loads of umph but very well controlled and by
>>> no means overwhelming. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The unit is a hard shell with a velvety feel that is almost slippery. The
>>> fit is very tight for an iPhone 6 and there is no wiggle room at all. I
>>> struggle sometimes to remove the phone from the MusicBoost. You can't pull
>>> it out by the phone's sides even though they can be gripped from about
>>> halfway up. You have to get your fingernails between the bottom edge of the
>>> phone and the unit and it can take more than one attempt. So there is no way
>>> an iPhone 6S should be inserted into it! Well, it can be forced but you'll
>>> never get it back!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There is a tiny button on the bottom front left of the unit and pressing it
>>> in for a few seconds gets it charging the phone. Like a lot of charging
>>> cases it feels light but once united with the iPhone the combined weight is
>>> quite hefty in the hand. I usually keep my phone in a trouser or jeans
>>> pocket but it's too heavy to be comfortable with the case. So I use the
>>> musicBoost when I want to do some undivided listening and it's certainly
>>> handy to have in a bag to breakout it the iPhone needs a charge boost on the
>>> go.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Overall, it sounds fantastic and is great to have but I don't use it all the
>>> time. But if you try to use a 6S with it I think you'll find it will be
>>> permanently attached!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> **
>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
>> halfwits in this world behind.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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Re: Arcam MusicBoost

[Vicky Vaughan]

Do you think that an iPhone 5S would work with it?

Many thanks! Vicky

-Original Message- 
From: John Gurd

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 11:31 AM
To: PC Audio
Subject: Arcam MusicBoost

I got my Arcam MusicBoost a few weeks ago and I've been meaning to write
about it for a while.



First of all the DAC sounds great with the B P7s as you might expect. I
mostly listened the music from the Apple Music service so there was a limit
to the definition (256 bitrate). However, it sounds very detailed and
natural with plenty of seperation. As it is a headphone amp as well there is
plenty of volume if necessary and the music has a nice feel of power in
reserve. Bass when present has loads of umph but very well controlled and by
no means overwhelming.



The unit is a hard shell with a velvety feel that is almost slippery. The
fit is very tight for an iPhone 6 and there is no wiggle room at all. I
struggle sometimes to remove the phone from the MusicBoost. You can't pull
it out by the phone's sides even though they can be gripped from about
halfway up. You have to get your fingernails between the bottom edge of the
phone and the unit and it can take more than one attempt. So there is no way
an iPhone 6S should be inserted into it! Well, it can be forced but you'll
never get it back!



There is a tiny button on the bottom front left of the unit and pressing it
in for a few seconds gets it charging the phone. Like a lot of charging
cases it feels light but once united with the iPhone the combined weight is
quite hefty in the hand. I usually keep my phone in a trouser or jeans
pocket but it's too heavy to be comfortable with the case. So I use the
musicBoost when I want to do some undivided listening and it's certainly
handy to have in a bag to breakout it the iPhone needs a charge boost on the
go.



Overall, it sounds fantastic and is great to have but I don't use it all the
time. But if you try to use a 6S with it I think you'll find it will be
permanently attached!



John

Re: Arcam MusicBoost

[Mary Otten]

Well, I have to say I'm sorry to hear that about the tight fit. Hard to
believe they would just come out with a product that is made for a
phone which is now a year and a half old and won't fit the current
model. 

Mary

Arcam MusicBoost

[John Gurd]

I got my Arcam MusicBoost a few weeks ago and I've been meaning to write
about it for a while. 

 

First of all the DAC sounds great with the B P7s as you might expect. I
mostly listened the music from the Apple Music service so there was a limit
to the definition (256 bitrate). However, it sounds very detailed and
natural with plenty of seperation. As it is a headphone amp as well there is
plenty of volume if necessary and the music has a nice feel of power in
reserve. Bass when present has loads of umph but very well controlled and by
no means overwhelming. 

 

The unit is a hard shell with a velvety feel that is almost slippery. The
fit is very tight for an iPhone 6 and there is no wiggle room at all. I
struggle sometimes to remove the phone from the MusicBoost. You can't pull
it out by the phone's sides even though they can be gripped from about
halfway up. You have to get your fingernails between the bottom edge of the
phone and the unit and it can take more than one attempt. So there is no way
an iPhone 6S should be inserted into it! Well, it can be forced but you'll
never get it back!

 

There is a tiny button on the bottom front left of the unit and pressing it
in for a few seconds gets it charging the phone. Like a lot of charging
cases it feels light but once united with the iPhone the combined weight is
quite hefty in the hand. I usually keep my phone in a trouser or jeans
pocket but it's too heavy to be comfortable with the case. So I use the
musicBoost when I want to do some undivided listening and it's certainly
handy to have in a bag to breakout it the iPhone needs a charge boost on the
go.

 

Overall, it sounds fantastic and is great to have but I don't use it all the
time. But if you try to use a 6S with it I think you'll find it will be
permanently attached!

 

John

 

RE: Arcam MusicBoost adds a headphone amp, DAC and battery pack to iPhone 6 | What Hi-Fi?

[John Gurd]

A word of caution if you have a 6S as opposed to an iPhone 6. I saw a couple of 
reports of Amazon customers in the UK where people using the iPhone 6s had 
extreme difficulty removing the Music Boost once fitted to the phone. 
Apparently the 6S is fractions of a millimetre wider than the 6 and this is 
enough to cause too tight a fit. 

Also, be aware that the signal is one way, so the microphone and remote control 
functions of a headset style headphone will not work.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 08 January 2016 02:32
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost adds a headphone amp, DAC and battery pack to 
iPhone 6 | What Hi-Fi?

Google our friend is doing its best, I had trouble finding it too and I can 
only assume that - given the device has only been available for less than two 
months - it hasn t made its way outside the United Kingdom yet.


> On 8 Jan 2016, at 11:17 AM, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> This sounds most interesting. But am having difficulty finding it in 
> the States. C'mon google. I thought you were my friend!
> 
> Mary
> 
> 

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Re: Arcam MusicBoost adds a headphone amp, DAC and battery pack to iPhone 6 | What Hi-Fi?

[Dane Trethowan]

That's put pay to any plans I had in purchasing one of these then as I 
have an iPhone 6S so I guess I'll just have to be happy with the Chord 
Mojo 




On 9/01/2016 1:07 AM, John Gurd wrote:

Correction. The iPhone 6S is thicker, not wider, than the 6. It's only 0.2mm 
thicker, but this is enough to cause problems with certain cases, including the 
Arcam MusicBoost.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of John Gurd
Sent: 08 January 2016 10:11
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Arcam MusicBoost adds a headphone amp, DAC and battery pack to 
iPhone 6 | What Hi-Fi?

A word of caution if you have a 6S as opposed to an iPhone 6. I saw a couple of 
reports of Amazon customers in the UK where people using the iPhone 6s had 
extreme difficulty removing the Music Boost once fitted to the phone. 
Apparently the 6S is fractions of a millimetre wider than the 6 and this is 
enough to cause too tight a fit.

Also, be aware that the signal is one way, so the microphone and remote control 
functions of a headset style headphone will not work.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 08 January 2016 02:32
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost adds a headphone amp, DAC and battery pack to 
iPhone 6 | What Hi-Fi?

Google our friend is doing its best, I had trouble finding it too and I can 
only assume that - given the device has only been available for less than two 
months - it hasn t made its way outside the United Kingdom yet.



On 8 Jan 2016, at 11:17 AM, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote:

This sounds most interesting. But am having difficulty finding it in
the States. C'mon google. I thought you were my friend!

Mary



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RE: Arcam MusicBoost adds a headphone amp, DAC and battery pack to iPhone 6 | What Hi-Fi?

[John Gurd]

Correction. The iPhone 6S is thicker, not wider, than the 6. It's only 0.2mm 
thicker, but this is enough to cause problems with certain cases, including the 
Arcam MusicBoost. 

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of John Gurd
Sent: 08 January 2016 10:11
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Arcam MusicBoost adds a headphone amp, DAC and battery pack to 
iPhone 6 | What Hi-Fi?

A word of caution if you have a 6S as opposed to an iPhone 6. I saw a couple of 
reports of Amazon customers in the UK where people using the iPhone 6s had 
extreme difficulty removing the Music Boost once fitted to the phone. 
Apparently the 6S is fractions of a millimetre wider than the 6 and this is 
enough to cause too tight a fit. 

Also, be aware that the signal is one way, so the microphone and remote control 
functions of a headset style headphone will not work.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 08 January 2016 02:32
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Arcam MusicBoost adds a headphone amp, DAC and battery pack to 
iPhone 6 | What Hi-Fi?

Google our friend is doing its best, I had trouble finding it too and I can 
only assume that - given the device has only been available for less than two 
months - it hasn t made its way outside the United Kingdom yet.


> On 8 Jan 2016, at 11:17 AM, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> This sounds most interesting. But am having difficulty finding it in 
> the States. C'mon google. I thought you were my friend!
> 
> Mary
> 
> 

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Re: Arcam MusicBoost adds a headphone amp, DAC and battery pack to iPhone 6 | What Hi-Fi?

[Mary Otten]

This sounds most interesting. But am having difficulty finding it in
the States. C'mon google. I thought you were my friend!

Mary

Re: Arcam MusicBoost adds a headphone amp, DAC and battery pack to iPhone 6 | What Hi-Fi?

[Dane Trethowan]

Google our friend is doing its best, I had trouble finding it too and I can 
only assume that - given the device has only been available for less than two 
months - it hasn’t made its way outside the United Kingdom yet.


> On 8 Jan 2016, at 11:17 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> This sounds most interesting. But am having difficulty finding it in
> the States. C'mon google. I thought you were my friend!
> 
> Mary
> 
> 

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Re: Arcam MusicBoost adds a headphone amp, DAC and battery pack to iPhone 6 | What Hi-Fi?

[Mary Otten]

Well, I guess there is hope for us in the States, since there was a
brief article about the U.S. debut of this product at CES. 

Mary

Arcam MusicBoost adds a headphone amp, DAC and battery pack to iPhone 6 | What Hi-Fi?

[Dane Trethowan]

I must say I’m tempted to get one of these myself given both the price tag and 
the capabilities of the device so I’m off now to see where it may be available 
in Australia.


> http://www.whathifi.com/news/arcam-musicboost-adds-headphone-amp-dac-and-battery-pack-to-iphone-6
>  
> <http://www.whathifi.com/news/arcam-musicboost-adds-headphone-amp-dac-and-battery-pack-to-iphone-6>


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