RE: Help needed - Same CD-DVD-Writers with different burning results?
The Burner was brandnew, but the problem had to do with bad blank CDs - and the problem is solved. But thanks anyway for all your help. I'll look into EAC anyhow, when I find the time. Thanks to you, Dane, I'll try if I'll get it to work this time - after all, it was about 12 years ago when I tried and gave up last. Smiles Take care and have a great day Alexandra -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 11:40 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Help needed - Same CD-DVD-Writers with different burning results? I've used many machines and not seen any which needed the features touted in EAC. I've done audiobooks and music cds both from Win98 on and I gues I've been lucky. Check out the equipment before you worry about software. I have seen equipment go bad. - Original Message - From: Alexandra Grünauer al.gruena...@gmx.de To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 8:04 AM Subject: RE: Help needed - Same CD-DVD-Writers with different burning results? Thanks everyone for your help! Dane, since you've been supplying us with quite a few helpful tutorials, may I ask, if you happen to have written up something on the setting up of EAC? I'd appreciate any help since I never really understood how to use that program propperly, which is why I got back to CDEx and Nero. Thanks in advance and take care, Alexandra -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Humberto Rodriguez Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 4:16 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Help needed - Same CD-DVD-Writers with different burning results? Hello Alexandra: Older CD players normally do not play MP3 files, newer ones do. CDs have large files with the file extension .cda and when you copy them with Exact Copy, they are copied to the blank CD in the same format. In format .cda, a song normally occupies over 30 Megs, sometimes 50 Megs or higher, so only 15 or 20 songs fit in a CD, for it has a capacity of 700Megs. When we use a program to rip songs from the CD, that normally refers to converting them to a different format. Format can be lossless as is the case of for instance, the files with extension .wav, which retain the same quality and also occupy lots of room. There are many audio file formats, including some less known that are also losseless and occupy about half the room of a .wav, but there is always the trade-off of where to play it. Normally when you rip songs from a CD, you convert them to the MP3 format, that is with file extensions .mp3. The MP3 files occupy much less space and thus you can fit many more in a CD, perhaps 100 or more songs in a single CD with a 700 Megs capacity. MP3 files also come in different qualities, depending on bitrate and sample rate. Most people say the CD quality is 128K bitrate and 44100 sample rate, but while the sound approaches the quality of a .cda it is not quite the same. It is a trade-off, but MP3 files are very common and play in all modern CD players. You could use higher bitrates, up to 320K and they will sound a little better still, with larger file size. In summary, when you copy or rip a CD, you must select Audio Cd or Data CD and the former refers to .cda files, the latter to the format of your choice, MP3 being the most common. Now, if you want to rip CDs into Data Cds in formats such as .wav or .mp3, the simplest program to do it is called Singe. It will do either CDs or DVDs automatically, it determines what it is from its size,and it is very easy to select the files to put in it and burnthem. It is available from the Jaws Users website, I believe. Regards, Humberto -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Alexandra Grünauer Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 6:16 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: Help needed - Same CD-DVD-Writers with different burning results? Hi List, I hope someone can help me how to solve this problem. I'm using the same CD-DVD-Burner on two different windows 7 machines with Nero Burning Rom to burn audio CDs. With one burner the CDs are fine, with the other the results won't play on many audio CD players, admittedly, they're older models, but from the one PC they play fine, from the other they don't. I'd appreciate any ideas concerning that problem. Thanks in advance. Take care Alexandra
Re: Help needed - Same CD-DVD-Writers with different burning results?
I've used many machines and not seen any which needed the features touted in EAC. I've done audiobooks and music cds both from Win98 on and I gues I've been lucky. Check out the equipment before you worry about software. I have seen equipment go bad. - Original Message - From: Alexandra Grünauer al.gruena...@gmx.de To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 8:04 AM Subject: RE: Help needed - Same CD-DVD-Writers with different burning results? Thanks everyone for your help! Dane, since you've been supplying us with quite a few helpful tutorials, may I ask, if you happen to have written up something on the setting up of EAC? I'd appreciate any help since I never really understood how to use that program propperly, which is why I got back to CDEx and Nero. Thanks in advance and take care, Alexandra -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Humberto Rodriguez Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 4:16 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Help needed - Same CD-DVD-Writers with different burning results? Hello Alexandra: Older CD players normally do not play MP3 files, newer ones do. CDs have large files with the file extension .cda and when you copy them with Exact Copy, they are copied to the blank CD in the same format. In format .cda, a song normally occupies over 30 Megs, sometimes 50 Megs or higher, so only 15 or 20 songs fit in a CD, for it has a capacity of 700Megs. When we use a program to rip songs from the CD, that normally refers to converting them to a different format. Format can be lossless as is the case of for instance, the files with extension .wav, which retain the same quality and also occupy lots of room. There are many audio file formats, including some less known that are also losseless and occupy about half the room of a .wav, but there is always the trade-off of where to play it. Normally when you rip songs from a CD, you convert them to the MP3 format, that is with file extensions .mp3. The MP3 files occupy much less space and thus you can fit many more in a CD, perhaps 100 or more songs in a single CD with a 700 Megs capacity. MP3 files also come in different qualities, depending on bitrate and sample rate. Most people say the CD quality is 128K bitrate and 44100 sample rate, but while the sound approaches the quality of a .cda it is not quite the same. It is a trade-off, but MP3 files are very common and play in all modern CD players. You could use higher bitrates, up to 320K and they will sound a little better still, with larger file size. In summary, when you copy or rip a CD, you must select Audio Cd or Data CD and the former refers to .cda files, the latter to the format of your choice, MP3 being the most common. Now, if you want to rip CDs into Data Cds in formats such as .wav or .mp3, the simplest program to do it is called Singe. It will do either CDs or DVDs automatically, it determines what it is from its size,and it is very easy to select the files to put in it and burnthem. It is available from the Jaws Users website, I believe. Regards, Humberto -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Alexandra Grünauer Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 6:16 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: Help needed - Same CD-DVD-Writers with different burning results? Hi List, I hope someone can help me how to solve this problem. I'm using the same CD-DVD-Burner on two different windows 7 machines with Nero Burning Rom to burn audio CDs. With one burner the CDs are fine, with the other the results won't play on many audio CD players, admittedly, they're older models, but from the one PC they play fine, from the other they don't. I'd appreciate any ideas concerning that problem. Thanks in advance. Take care Alexandra
Re: Help needed - Same CD-DVD-Writers with different burning results?
No the soft ware was renamed ez audio converter, the latest version is 3.04 On 4/9/2015 8:25 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Yeah, think you mean Easy CD converter? You probably didn't get EAC to work correctly because you didn't set it up correctly smile, its a little involved but only takes around 5 minutes to get going, well worth it once you do. On 10/04/2015 11:22 AM, Sunshine wrote: ez audio converter works great as well, could never get eac to work correctly. On 4/9/2015 8:16 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: All down to the ripping software you're using and now you know why I don't use Nero, iTunes or anything like that, try Exact Audio Copy of Easy CD Converter for Windows, that way you'll get accurate results no matter what your hardware is. Exact Audio Copy may take a few minutes to set up but there's plenty of information out there to give you a hand. Easy CD Converter is pretty straight forward in most of its settings though you may need to tweak some of the settings depending on the quality of your audio CD'S you're ripping, in any case the error log is your first port of call for these Apps, if there are errors in ripping then the log will tell you about them andthen you make adjustments accordingly. On 10/04/2015 8:16 AM, Alexandra Grünauer wrote: Hi List, I hope someone can help me how to solve this problem. I'm using the same CD-DVD-Burner on two different windows 7 machines with Nero Burning Rom to burn audio CDs. With one burner the CDs are fine, with the other the results won't play on many audio CD players, admittedly, they're older models, but from the one PC they play fine, from the other they don't. I'd appreciate any ideas concerning that problem. Thanks in advance. Take care Alexandra
Re: Help needed - Same CD-DVD-Writers with different burning results?
what settings would need to be tweeked in ez audio converter/ and eac? On 4/9/2015 8:25 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Yeah, think you mean Easy CD converter? You probably didn't get EAC to work correctly because you didn't set it up correctly smile, its a little involved but only takes around 5 minutes to get going, well worth it once you do. On 10/04/2015 11:22 AM, Sunshine wrote: ez audio converter works great as well, could never get eac to work correctly. On 4/9/2015 8:16 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: All down to the ripping software you're using and now you know why I don't use Nero, iTunes or anything like that, try Exact Audio Copy of Easy CD Converter for Windows, that way you'll get accurate results no matter what your hardware is. Exact Audio Copy may take a few minutes to set up but there's plenty of information out there to give you a hand. Easy CD Converter is pretty straight forward in most of its settings though you may need to tweak some of the settings depending on the quality of your audio CD'S you're ripping, in any case the error log is your first port of call for these Apps, if there are errors in ripping then the log will tell you about them andthen you make adjustments accordingly. On 10/04/2015 8:16 AM, Alexandra Grünauer wrote: Hi List, I hope someone can help me how to solve this problem. I'm using the same CD-DVD-Burner on two different windows 7 machines with Nero Burning Rom to burn audio CDs. With one burner the CDs are fine, with the other the results won't play on many audio CD players, admittedly, they're older models, but from the one PC they play fine, from the other they don't. I'd appreciate any ideas concerning that problem. Thanks in advance. Take care Alexandra
