Streaming to the "GGMM E-2 Portable Speaker via Android Phone?

[Kenny]

Hello,

Well I just got my new GGMM E-2 Portable Speaker with Alexa 
yesterday, and I'm pretty impressed.


I really love the built-in Alexa functionality. The only problem is 
that I have to keep the speaker in WiFi mode to use it.


Is there any way I can stream spoken notifications from my Android 
Nexus 5x phone to the speaker, and also be able to use the Alexa feature too?


Any other tips you can give for getting more out of this little GIANT 
would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks.

Re: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard

[Aidan]

 Thank you David. Yes I am aware of that, but in this case it’s not the
issue because jaws  still did not came from as it was supposed to in the
recording. I just get silence. But yes it’s good to note that.

On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 at 22:08, David Bailes  wrote:

> Hi Aiden,
> you may well already be aware of the following, but I thought it was worth
> checking.
> The stereo mix input provided by the realtek chip allows you to record the
> audio output of the realtek chip. Are you sending any audio to the realtek
> speaker output? The usb headset is a different sound device, so any audio
> sent to your headphones won't be included in the realtek's stereo mix.
>
> A number of recording programs would allow you to record the output of your
> headphones using wasapi loopback.
>
> David.
>
> original message:
>
> Well, I'm not sure what the content I record have to do with this, the
> point is when stereo mix is active, it should record what it can here.
> I am on a laptop with build in audio realtek and a USB headset. At one
> point it did pick up jaws at least but now its dead silent.
>
> On 27/11/2017, Michael Amaro  wrote:
> > are you trying to record off the net?
> >
> > --
> > From: "Aidan" 
> > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 7:52 AM
> > To: 
> > Subject: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard
> >
> >> I have a laptop and so whenever I select the stereo mix option I just
> >> get silents when recording. All the mute are uncheck and volumes up to
> >> 100.
> >>
> >
> >
>

SV: Fwd: loop back audio was Re: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard

[Brian Olesen]

Hi,
It works fine here, and off course it must be turned on and active.

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af David Bailes
Sendt: 29. november 2017 11:33
Til: pc-audio 
Emne: Fwd: Fwd: loop back audio was Re: stereo mix not working on realtech 
build in soundcard

Hi Hank,
see the recording section of this guide for details of the recording settings 
of Audacity:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-2.2.0-Guide.html

To record the sound that is sent to your usb headphones, you need to set the 
audio interface to wasapi, and then set the recording device to an item which 
will be something like usb speakers, and have loopback as the last word in its 
name. In addition, set the number of recording channels to 2 (stereo).

David.

-- Forwarded message --
From: The wolf 
Date: 29 November 2017 at 04:27
Subject: Re: Fwd: loop back audio was Re: stereo mix not working on realtech 
build in soundcard
To: David Bailes 


how do you set it to record your usv head set and jaws fore example?

using the loop back feature?


On 11/28/2017 1:25 PM, David Bailes wrote:

> Hi Hank,
> see option 2 on this page:
> https://www.howtogeek.com/217348/how-to-record-the-sound-
> coming-from-your-pc-even-without-stereo-mix/
>
> Note that as well as Audacity, there are other recording programs with 
> this feature.
>
> David.
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: The wolf 
> Date: 28 November 2017 at 20:13
> Subject: loop back audio was Re: stereo mix not working on realtech 
> build in soundcard
> To: David Bailes 
>
>
> Hello I am changing the subject line so not to hi jack the thread
>
> how does the loop back feature work?
>
> I didn't even know you could do that
>
> Hank
>
>
>
> On 11/28/2017 1:08 PM, David Bailes wrote:
>
> Hi Aiden,
>> you may well already be aware of the following, but I thought it was 
>> worth checking.
>> The stereo mix input provided by the realtek chip allows you to 
>> record the audio output of the realtek chip. Are you sending any 
>> audio to the realtek speaker output? The usb headset is a different 
>> sound device, so any audio sent to your headphones won't be included in the 
>> realtek's stereo mix.
>>
>> A number of recording programs would allow you to record the output 
>> of your headphones using wasapi loopback.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> original message:
>>
>> Well, I'm not sure what the content I record have to do with this, 
>> the point is when stereo mix is active, it should record what it can here.
>> I am on a laptop with build in audio realtek and a USB headset. At 
>> one point it did pick up jaws at least but now its dead silent.
>>
>> On 27/11/2017, Michael Amaro  wrote:
>>
>> are you trying to record off the net?
>>>
>>> --
>>> From: "Aidan" 
>>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 7:52 AM
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard
>>>
>>> I have a laptop and so whenever I select the stereo mix option I 
>>> just
>>>
 get silents when recording. All the mute are uncheck and volumes up 
 to 100.

Fwd: Fwd: loop back audio was Re: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard

[David Bailes]

Hi Hank,
see the recording section of this guide for details of the recording
settings of Audacity:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-2.2.0-Guide.html

To record the sound that is sent to your usb headphones, you need to set
the audio interface to wasapi, and then set the recording device to an item
which will be something like usb speakers, and have loopback as the last
word in its name. In addition, set the number of recording channels to 2
(stereo).

David.

-- Forwarded message --
From: The wolf 
Date: 29 November 2017 at 04:27
Subject: Re: Fwd: loop back audio was Re: stereo mix not working on
realtech build in soundcard
To: David Bailes 


how do you set it to record your usv head set and jaws fore example?

using the loop back feature?


On 11/28/2017 1:25 PM, David Bailes wrote:

> Hi Hank,
> see option 2 on this page:
> https://www.howtogeek.com/217348/how-to-record-the-sound-
> coming-from-your-pc-even-without-stereo-mix/
>
> Note that as well as Audacity, there are other recording programs with this
> feature.
>
> David.
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: The wolf 
> Date: 28 November 2017 at 20:13
> Subject: loop back audio was Re: stereo mix not working on realtech build
> in soundcard
> To: David Bailes 
>
>
> Hello I am changing the subject line so not to hi jack the thread
>
> how does the loop back feature work?
>
> I didn't even know you could do that
>
> Hank
>
>
>
> On 11/28/2017 1:08 PM, David Bailes wrote:
>
> Hi Aiden,
>> you may well already be aware of the following, but I thought it was worth
>> checking.
>> The stereo mix input provided by the realtek chip allows you to record the
>> audio output of the realtek chip. Are you sending any audio to the realtek
>> speaker output? The usb headset is a different sound device, so any audio
>> sent to your headphones won't be included in the realtek's stereo mix.
>>
>> A number of recording programs would allow you to record the output of
>> your
>> headphones using wasapi loopback.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> original message:
>>
>> Well, I'm not sure what the content I record have to do with this, the
>> point is when stereo mix is active, it should record what it can here.
>> I am on a laptop with build in audio realtek and a USB headset. At one
>> point it did pick up jaws at least but now its dead silent.
>>
>> On 27/11/2017, Michael Amaro  wrote:
>>
>> are you trying to record off the net?
>>>
>>> --
>>> From: "Aidan" 
>>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 7:52 AM
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard
>>>
>>> I have a laptop and so whenever I select the stereo mix option I just
>>>
 get silents when recording. All the mute are uncheck and volumes up to
 100.

Fwd: loop back audio was Re: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard

[David Bailes]

Hi Hank,
see option 2 on this page:
https://www.howtogeek.com/217348/how-to-record-the-sound-coming-from-your-pc-even-without-stereo-mix/

Note that as well as Audacity, there are other recording programs with this
feature.

David.


-- Forwarded message --
From: The wolf 
Date: 28 November 2017 at 20:13
Subject: loop back audio was Re: stereo mix not working on realtech build
in soundcard
To: David Bailes 


Hello I am changing the subject line so not to hi jack the thread

how does the loop back feature work?

I didn't even know you could do that

Hank



On 11/28/2017 1:08 PM, David Bailes wrote:

> Hi Aiden,
> you may well already be aware of the following, but I thought it was worth
> checking.
> The stereo mix input provided by the realtek chip allows you to record the
> audio output of the realtek chip. Are you sending any audio to the realtek
> speaker output? The usb headset is a different sound device, so any audio
> sent to your headphones won't be included in the realtek's stereo mix.
>
> A number of recording programs would allow you to record the output of your
> headphones using wasapi loopback.
>
> David.
>
> original message:
>
> Well, I'm not sure what the content I record have to do with this, the
> point is when stereo mix is active, it should record what it can here.
> I am on a laptop with build in audio realtek and a USB headset. At one
> point it did pick up jaws at least but now its dead silent.
>
> On 27/11/2017, Michael Amaro  wrote:
>
>> are you trying to record off the net?
>>
>> --
>> From: "Aidan" 
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 7:52 AM
>> To: 
>> Subject: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard
>>
>> I have a laptop and so whenever I select the stereo mix option I just
>>> get silents when recording. All the mute are uncheck and volumes up to
>>> 100.
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard

[David Bailes]

Hi Aiden,
you may well already be aware of the following, but I thought it was worth
checking.
The stereo mix input provided by the realtek chip allows you to record the
audio output of the realtek chip. Are you sending any audio to the realtek
speaker output? The usb headset is a different sound device, so any audio
sent to your headphones won't be included in the realtek's stereo mix.

A number of recording programs would allow you to record the output of your
headphones using wasapi loopback.

David.

original message:

Well, I'm not sure what the content I record have to do with this, the
point is when stereo mix is active, it should record what it can here.
I am on a laptop with build in audio realtek and a USB headset. At one
point it did pick up jaws at least but now its dead silent.

On 27/11/2017, Michael Amaro  wrote:
> are you trying to record off the net?
>
> --
> From: "Aidan" 
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 7:52 AM
> To: 
> Subject: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard
>
>> I have a laptop and so whenever I select the stereo mix option I just
>> get silents when recording. All the mute are uncheck and volumes up to
>> 100.
>>
>
>

This List Is Being Moved

[Tom Dimeo]

Ladies and gentlemen,

This e-mail list, pc audio, will be moving to groups i o
on December 1, 2017. You will shortly be receiving an
invitation to join. The list name will be all-audio. I
hope you will all join.

The DMARC and other e-mail list limitations have caused
many problems managing the list. I receive fifteen or
twenty bounced s p a m messages a day I go through all of
them incase a message was meant to go to the list and was
bounced instead.

The list and this e-mail address, tom at pc-audio dot org
will be deleted on December 1, 2017. After that date you
can send e-mail to me at:
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Hope to see everybody on all-audio at groups dot i o.

Sincerely,

Tom Dimeo

Re: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard

[Michael Amaro]

make sure that its enabled.  To do this, find stereo mix press the 
aplications key arrow up or down.  If it says disabled press enter to enable 
it.


--
From: "Aidan" 
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 1:54 PM
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Subject: Re: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard


Well, I'm not sure what the content I record have to do with this, the
point is when stereo mix is active, it should record what it can here.
I am on a laptop with build in audio realtek and a USB headset. At one
point it did pick up jaws at least but now its dead silent.

On 27/11/2017, Michael Amaro  wrote:

are you trying to record off the net?

--
From: "Aidan" 
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 7:52 AM
To: 
Subject: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard


I have a laptop and so whenever I select the stereo mix option I just
get silents when recording. All the mute are uncheck and volumes up to
100.

Fwd: music creation using audio samples?

[The wolf]

Hello I am wanting to make some music using royalty free music sampoles



I need a program that would allow me to set a tempo fore the project and
match all my samples to the tempo of the project that I am working on.

I used to use acid music studio but you have to draw the wave form with
the mouse to even use it I had to have sited help.

when I did my last song I used garage band and have no money to get a mack

I am unable to play any music instruments do to limited use of one of my
hands so that is why I am wanting to use royaty free samoles 

can any one suggest a program that will do what I want and how to set up
the program fore what I am wanting to do?

thanks

Hank

Re: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard

[Aidan]

Well, I'm not sure what the content I record have to do with this, the
point is when stereo mix is active, it should record what it can here.
I am on a laptop with build in audio realtek and a USB headset. At one
point it did pick up jaws at least but now its dead silent.

On 27/11/2017, Michael Amaro  wrote:
> are you trying to record off the net?
>
> --
> From: "Aidan" 
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 7:52 AM
> To: 
> Subject: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard
>
>> I have a laptop and so whenever I select the stereo mix option I just
>> get silents when recording. All the mute are uncheck and volumes up to
>> 100.
>>
>
>

Re: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard

[Michael Amaro]

are you trying to record off the net?

--
From: "Aidan" 
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 7:52 AM
To: 
Subject: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard


I have a laptop and so whenever I select the stereo mix option I just
get silents when recording. All the mute are uncheck and volumes up to
100.

Re: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard

[Joe Paton]

Hello,

What audio data are you wanting to record?

Thanks.
On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 17:52:12 +0200
Aidan  wrote:

> I have a laptop and so whenever I select the stereo mix option I just
> get silents when recording. All the mute are uncheck and volumes up to
> 100.

Joe Paton
telephone: 01702 543624
Mobile: 0 7 9 6 7 3 8 2 9 6 4
 web site: http://www.apart.org

stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard

[Aidan]

I have a laptop and so whenever I select the stereo mix option I just
get silents when recording. All the mute are uncheck and volumes up to
100.

Skype Notes

[Dane Trethowan]

Hi!

If you're a Windows 10 user then you'll most likely be aware that you 
can already use a version of Skype built right into the operating system 
itself, the Desktop version of Skype is no longer available nor is it 
being developped.



--

**
"For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the one's you put in 
the ground and not the electric light one's."
**

Re: Tecsun PL660

[Dane Trethowan]

The choice is yours but personally I wouldn't touch the PL660, I 
wouldn't buy the PL880, I'd go for the bigger S-8800.




On 11/26/2017 10:33 PM, Rich De Steno wrote:
Amazon and other web sites are selling the Tecsun PL-880 for a cent or 
two under $160.


  Here is the Amazon link:


https://www.amazon.com/Tecsun-PL880-Conversion-Shortwave-Reception/dp/B00GJ51NVA 




Rich De Steno
On 11/26/2017 5:00 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

I’m not sure in US dollars unfortunately.


**
“For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s 
you put in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”






On 26 Nov 2017, at 8:52 pm, Brian Olesen  wrote:

Hi Dane,
What does such beasts cost?

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af 
Dane Trethowan

Sendt: 26. november 2017 00:38
Til: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Emne: Re: Tecsun PL660

hi!

Well you're going to have to make a few decisions as to which radio 
you buy, all Tecsun radio sets have pros and cons.


The Synchronus detection is better on the PL-660 however sideband is 
far better on the PL880.


On the PL-880 Sideband can be tuned in steps of 10KHZ which makes 
for very accurate recognition of signals whereas with the PL-660 you 
have to use a BFO control which drifts and requires fine adjustment, 
in other words its the sort of thing one wouldn't expect on a modern 
radio of today, something you found on radios 40 years ago.


Even though the PL-660 has the better sync I'd still go and buy the 
Tecsun PL-880 or even consider the new Tecsun S-8800.


Both the PL-880 and S-880 have far better sound than the Tecsun PL-660.

The S-8800 has - overall - better sensitivity on all bands than any 
other Tecsun radio I've tried.


Sideband on the S-8800 has the same sort of tuning as found on the 
PL-880.


Tuning on the S-8800 is silky smooth with that perfect "analogue 
tuning"
feel, the S-8800 comes with a handy remote control which controls 
most functions.


The manual for the S-8800 is very well written.



On 11/26/2017 6:40 AM, tim cumings wrote:

hi, Dane.
I am thinking about purchasing either the PL 660 or the PL 880.
do you have any comments about the sideband reception in the 
synchronous to text you on the 660 versus the 880?


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 10, 2017, at 6:36 PM, Dane Trethowan 
 wrote:


Hi!
If I recall correctly there is a list member who is looking for 
information on buttons and controls for his Tecsun PL-660 radio.
A document has been released by Tecsun Radio Australia to aid 
Blind users of this radio and I link to it thus.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2aq8zbpz2x7wkgm/PL660-tips-and-tricks-for-a
-blind-user.pdf?dl=0



**
“For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 
1’s you put in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”






--

**
"For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 
one's you put in the ground and not the electric light one's."

**










--

**
"For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the one's you put in 
the ground and not the electric light one's."
**

Re: Tecsun PL660

[Dane Trethowan]

I’m not sure in US dollars unfortunately.


**
“For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put in 
the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”




> On 26 Nov 2017, at 8:52 pm, Brian Olesen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dane,
> What does such beasts cost?
> 
> Brian
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sendt: 26. november 2017 00:38
> Til: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Emne: Re: Tecsun PL660
> 
> hi!
> 
> Well you're going to have to make a few decisions as to which radio you buy, 
> all Tecsun radio sets have pros and cons.
> 
> The Synchronus detection is better on the PL-660 however sideband is far 
> better on the PL880.
> 
> On the PL-880 Sideband can be tuned in steps of 10KHZ which makes for very 
> accurate recognition of signals whereas with the PL-660 you have to use a BFO 
> control which drifts and requires fine adjustment, in other words its the 
> sort of thing one wouldn't expect on a modern radio of today, something you 
> found on radios 40 years ago.
> 
> Even though the PL-660 has the better sync I'd still go and buy the Tecsun 
> PL-880 or even consider the new Tecsun S-8800.
> 
> Both the PL-880 and S-880 have far better sound than the Tecsun PL-660.
> 
> The S-8800 has - overall - better sensitivity on all bands than any other 
> Tecsun radio I've tried.
> 
> Sideband on the S-8800 has the same sort of tuning as found on the PL-880.
> 
> Tuning on the S-8800 is silky smooth with that perfect "analogue tuning" 
> feel, the S-8800 comes with a handy remote control which controls most 
> functions.
> 
> The manual for the S-8800 is very well written.
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/26/2017 6:40 AM, tim cumings wrote:
>> hi, Dane.
>> I am thinking about purchasing either the PL 660 or the PL 880.
>> do you have any comments about the sideband reception in the synchronous to 
>> text you on the 660 versus the 880?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 10, 2017, at 6:36 PM, Dane Trethowan  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> If I recall correctly there is a list member who is looking for information 
>>> on buttons and controls for his Tecsun PL-660 radio.
>>> A document has been released by Tecsun Radio Australia to aid Blind users 
>>> of this radio and I link to it thus.
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/2aq8zbpz2x7wkgm/PL660-tips-and-tricks-for-a
>>> -blind-user.pdf?dl=0 
>>> >> a-blind-user.pdf?dl=0>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> **
>>> “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you 
>>> put in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> **
> "For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the one's you 
> put in the ground and not the electric light one's."
> **
> 
> 
> 
> 

SV: Tecsun PL660

[Brian Olesen]

Hi Dane,
What does such beasts cost?

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan
Sendt: 26. november 2017 00:38
Til: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Emne: Re: Tecsun PL660

hi!

Well you're going to have to make a few decisions as to which radio you buy, 
all Tecsun radio sets have pros and cons.

The Synchronus detection is better on the PL-660 however sideband is far better 
on the PL880.

On the PL-880 Sideband can be tuned in steps of 10KHZ which makes for very 
accurate recognition of signals whereas with the PL-660 you have to use a BFO 
control which drifts and requires fine adjustment, in other words its the sort 
of thing one wouldn't expect on a modern radio of today, something you found on 
radios 40 years ago.

Even though the PL-660 has the better sync I'd still go and buy the Tecsun 
PL-880 or even consider the new Tecsun S-8800.

Both the PL-880 and S-880 have far better sound than the Tecsun PL-660.

The S-8800 has - overall - better sensitivity on all bands than any other 
Tecsun radio I've tried.

Sideband on the S-8800 has the same sort of tuning as found on the PL-880.

Tuning on the S-8800 is silky smooth with that perfect "analogue tuning" 
feel, the S-8800 comes with a handy remote control which controls most 
functions.

The manual for the S-8800 is very well written.



On 11/26/2017 6:40 AM, tim cumings wrote:
> hi, Dane.
> I am thinking about purchasing either the PL 660 or the PL 880.
> do you have any comments about the sideband reception in the synchronous to 
> text you on the 660 versus the 880?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 10, 2017, at 6:36 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>> If I recall correctly there is a list member who is looking for information 
>> on buttons and controls for his Tecsun PL-660 radio.
>> A document has been released by Tecsun Radio Australia to aid Blind users of 
>> this radio and I link to it thus.
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/2aq8zbpz2x7wkgm/PL660-tips-and-tricks-for-a
>> -blind-user.pdf?dl=0 
>> > a-blind-user.pdf?dl=0>
>>
>>
>> **
>> “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put 
>> in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

-- 

**
"For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the one's you put 
in the ground and not the electric light one's."
**

Re: Tecsun PL660

[Dane Trethowan]

About the same on both but again the audio quality of the PL-880 is better.

If you want ultimate FM sensitivity and selectivity in a Tecsun radio 
then forget about both these models and go for the new S-8800.




On 11/26/2017 11:20 AM, Casey wrote:

hi you may have already answered this.

But how is the 660 on f.m  and the 880 on the same?





On 11/25/2017 5:37 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

hi!

Well you're going to have to make a few decisions as to which radio 
you buy, all Tecsun radio sets have pros and cons.


The Synchronus detection is better on the PL-660 however sideband is 
far better on the PL880.


On the PL-880 Sideband can be tuned in steps of 10KHZ which makes for 
very accurate recognition of signals whereas with the PL-660 you have 
to use a BFO control which drifts and requires fine adjustment, in 
other words its the sort of thing one wouldn't expect on a modern 
radio of today, something you found on radios 40 years ago.


Even though the PL-660 has the better sync I'd still go and buy the 
Tecsun PL-880 or even consider the new Tecsun S-8800.


Both the PL-880 and S-880 have far better sound than the Tecsun PL-660.

The S-8800 has - overall - better sensitivity on all bands than any 
other Tecsun radio I've tried.


Sideband on the S-8800 has the same sort of tuning as found on the 
PL-880.


Tuning on the S-8800 is silky smooth with that perfect "analogue 
tuning" feel, the S-8800 comes with a handy remote control which 
controls most functions.


The manual for the S-8800 is very well written.



On 11/26/2017 6:40 AM, tim cumings wrote:

hi, Dane.
I am thinking about purchasing either the PL 660 or the PL 880.
do you have any comments about the sideband reception in the 
synchronous to text you on the 660 versus the 880?


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 10, 2017, at 6:36 PM, Dane Trethowan 
 wrote:


Hi!
If I recall correctly there is a list member who is looking for 
information on buttons and controls for his Tecsun PL-660 radio.
A document has been released by Tecsun Radio Australia to aid Blind 
users of this radio and I link to it thus.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2aq8zbpz2x7wkgm/PL660-tips-and-tricks-for-a-blind-user.pdf?dl=0 
 




**
“For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 
1’s you put in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”













--

**
"For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the one's you put in 
the ground and not the electric light one's."
**

Re: Tecsun PL660

[Dane Trethowan]

hi!

Well you're going to have to make a few decisions as to which radio you 
buy, all Tecsun radio sets have pros and cons.


The Synchronus detection is better on the PL-660 however sideband is far 
better on the PL880.


On the PL-880 Sideband can be tuned in steps of 10KHZ which makes for 
very accurate recognition of signals whereas with the PL-660 you have to 
use a BFO control which drifts and requires fine adjustment, in other 
words its the sort of thing one wouldn't expect on a modern radio of 
today, something you found on radios 40 years ago.


Even though the PL-660 has the better sync I'd still go and buy the 
Tecsun PL-880 or even consider the new Tecsun S-8800.


Both the PL-880 and S-880 have far better sound than the Tecsun PL-660.

The S-8800 has - overall - better sensitivity on all bands than any 
other Tecsun radio I've tried.


Sideband on the S-8800 has the same sort of tuning as found on the PL-880.

Tuning on the S-8800 is silky smooth with that perfect "analogue tuning" 
feel, the S-8800 comes with a handy remote control which controls most 
functions.


The manual for the S-8800 is very well written.



On 11/26/2017 6:40 AM, tim cumings wrote:

hi, Dane.
I am thinking about purchasing either the PL 660 or the PL 880.
do you have any comments about the sideband reception in the synchronous to 
text you on the 660 versus the 880?

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 10, 2017, at 6:36 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

Hi!
If I recall correctly there is a list member who is looking for information on 
buttons and controls for his Tecsun PL-660 radio.
A document has been released by Tecsun Radio Australia to aid Blind users of 
this radio and I link to it thus.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2aq8zbpz2x7wkgm/PL660-tips-and-tricks-for-a-blind-user.pdf?dl=0
 



**
“For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put in 
the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”








--

**
"For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the one's 
you put in the ground and not the electric light one's."

**

Re: Tecsun PL660

[tim cumings]

hi, Dane.
I am thinking about purchasing either the PL 660 or the PL 880.
do you have any comments about the sideband reception in the synchronous to 
text you on the 660 versus the 880?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 10, 2017, at 6:36 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> If I recall correctly there is a list member who is looking for information 
> on buttons and controls for his Tecsun PL-660 radio.
> A document has been released by Tecsun Radio Australia to aid Blind users of 
> this radio and I link to it thus.
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/2aq8zbpz2x7wkgm/PL660-tips-and-tricks-for-a-blind-user.pdf?dl=0
>  
> 
> 
> 
> **
> “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put 
> in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”
> 
> 
> 
> 

ABC Radio Direct URL's

[Dane Trethowan]

This page contains direct URL's for most ABC Radio stations in 
Australia, they can be pasted into VLC, used with Total Recorder etc


http://radio.abc.net.au/help/streams

--

**
"For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the one's you put in 
the ground and not the electric light one's."
**

World-Wide SDR page

[Dane Trethowan]

Hi!

I posted a link to this yesterday and my post has subsubsequently 
generated a lot of questions about the SDR unit which is used on the 
page for the various locations and receivers listed.


The Kiwi-SDR is the name of the SDR used.

The Kiwi-SDR is powered by another computer such as a Raspberry Pi, 
Beagle etc so for this eMail document I'll assume that the user of such 
a device is using a Beagle computer to both power and to programme the 
Kiwi-SDR unit.


Back to the SDR unit, its a simple box with an Internet Jack, antenna 
block connections and a 5V dc input so all one really needs to do - once 
Computer and software are in place - is to get into the Kiwi-SDR via 
your web browser and programme it from the web interface - define 
frequency coverage, administrative password and so on, find a suitable 
place for the antenna and then enjoy the radio from anywhere.


The most asked question is where can the radio be purchased? Well i 
don't know about people in the US but I can tell you that the Kiwi-SDR 
must be available given the few US SDR sites listed on the page.


If you're in Australia then head to 
https://core-electronics.com.au/kiwisdr-kit-seeed-studio.html?utm_source=google_shopping=EAIaIQobChMI0MTUneTO1wIVhQ4rCh1AQglEEAYYAiABEgKE5_D_BwE 
for further information


In Australia the Kiwi-SDR is sold with a Beagle computer, SD card with 
software, antenna and connecting leads so all the user has to do is to 
connect up and programme.


I'm going to get one of these Kiwi-SDR kits myself next year as I'd very 
much like to have a SDR radio as part of my web page, I've not done 
anything serious to my web page for 12 years but now I have the 
insentive to at last do something, the Blind Cool Tech - renamed Blind 
Fools Wreck - will also be going up onto the site along with the 
Fosseltech museum but one thing at a time .


The complete Kiwi-SDR along with the various bits and pieces costs 
around $500 Australian but I think that if you're into radio it will be 
money very well spent.


I spent hours yesterday and today tuning into all sorts of signals 
received by these SDR'S, evaluating signal strengths, comparing notes, 
looking up regions on maps etc.


I should also tell you that the majority of Kiwi-SDR owners have done a 
superb job with their equipment. Audio quality is good in the main and 
most have orientated their antenna systems well to avoid noise and 
interference.



--

**
"For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the one's you put in 
the ground and not the electric light one's."
**

Re: Microphone Picking up Sounds from Headset

[tim cumings]

you will have to going to be a playback settings to turn down the volume of the 
headset.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2017, at 4:06 PM, K. Scott Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I am using NVDA in the headset.
> 
> 
> How do I turn down the volume of my soundcard once my headphone volume 
> control is maxed since all of my sounds are going to my headset?
> 
> 
>> On 11/21/2017 3:53 PM, Tim Aune wrote:
>> The best thing to do is turn the headphone volume control all the way up and 
>> turn down the output of your soundcard to where you can just barely hear it. 
>> The micraphone and the headphone run along side of each other and the output 
>> from your headphones are being picked up inductively.
>> 
>> I hope this will help.
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Pc-audio  on behalf of K. Scott Carlson 
>> 
>> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 5:10:51 PM
>> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>> Subject: Microphone Picking up Sounds from Headset
>> 
>> All,
>> 
>> 
>> I am using a pair of Andrea 205-B binaural microphones. These are earbud
>> microphones and generally have excellent sound quality. However, when I
>> use them to record they pick up my screen reader in the background.
>> Obviously this is very distracting but I haven't figured out a way to
>> counteract it. What can I do?
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

Worldwide Web SDR: A Fantastic Site

[Dane Trethowan]

Okay, here's a link to a whole heap of Kiwi-SDR units.

These are software defined radios that can be set up for use over the 
Internet, try one and see for yourself.


http://sdr.hu/?top=kiwi

--

**
"For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the one's 
you put in the ground and not the electric light one's."

**

Re: Microphone Picking up Sounds from Headset

[K. Scott Carlson]

Yes, I am using NVDA in the headset.


How do I turn down the volume of my soundcard once my headphone volume 
control is maxed since all of my sounds are going to my headset?



On 11/21/2017 3:53 PM, Tim Aune wrote:

The best thing to do is turn the headphone volume control all the way up and 
turn down the output of your soundcard to where you can just barely hear it. 
The micraphone and the headphone run along side of each other and the output 
from your headphones are being picked up inductively.

I hope this will help.

Tim



Sent from Mail for Windows 10




From: Pc-audio  on behalf of K. Scott Carlson 

Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 5:10:51 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Microphone Picking up Sounds from Headset

All,


I am using a pair of Andrea 205-B binaural microphones. These are earbud
microphones and generally have excellent sound quality. However, when I
use them to record they pick up my screen reader in the background.
Obviously this is very distracting but I haven't figured out a way to
counteract it. What can I do?

RE: Microphone Picking up Sounds from Headset

[Tim Aune]

The best thing to do is turn the headphone volume control all the way up and 
turn down the output of your soundcard to where you can just barely hear it. 
The micraphone and the headphone run along side of each other and the output 
from your headphones are being picked up inductively.

I hope this will help.

Tim



Sent from Mail for Windows 10




From: Pc-audio  on behalf of K. Scott Carlson 

Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 5:10:51 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Microphone Picking up Sounds from Headset

All,


I am using a pair of Andrea 205-B binaural microphones. These are earbud
microphones and generally have excellent sound quality. However, when I
use them to record they pick up my screen reader in the background.
Obviously this is very distracting but I haven't figured out a way to
counteract it. What can I do?

Microphone Picking up Sounds from Headset

[K. Scott Carlson]

All,


I am using a pair of Andrea 205-B binaural microphones. These are earbud 
microphones and generally have excellent sound quality. However, when I 
use them to record they pick up my screen reader in the background. 
Obviously this is very distracting but I haven't figured out a way to 
counteract it. What can I do?

Re: List Will Continue

[Audrey Joy]

The best news, Tom. 

Happy Thanksgiving.

Audrey

- Original Message -
From: Tom Dimeo  
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 6:25 pm
Subject: List Will Continue

>
>
> OK folks, I got the message. The pc audio list will
> continue, probably on groups.i o. Not because I'm too
> cheap to pay for website space, but because DMARC and
> other e-mail list constraints have made lists difficult
> to manage. More information to follow.
> 
> Thank you all,
> 
> Tom Dimeo
> 
> 

Re: List Termination

[Audrey Joy]

Hi Norma,

Tech-Talk has a lot of questions regarding PC audio.
  Happy holidays.

  Audrey

- Original Message -
From: Norma A. Boge  
To: his'PC Audio Discussion List'"  
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 1:49 pm
Subject: RE: List Termination

>
>
> I guess my ISP must have a good Spam filter because I don't recall seeing
> any on this list.
> I, too, have been on the list quite a while. Although the traffic isn't
> steady, it is nice to have a place where I know my audio-related questions
> will get answered. I guess I could live with the list disappearing if
> someone could post subscription info for other lists where our audio
> questions are welcome. I hope such an animal exists.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Dimeo
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:34 PM
> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Subject: List Termination
> 
> Ladies and gentlemen,
> 
> I am seriously considering terminating the pc audio list.
> There is very little traffic on the list but a lot of spam. Also, with the
> advent of DMARC I have no idea who is or is not receiving list messages.
> 
> I could take the list to Google Groups or some other commercial e-mailing
> list if there is enough interest, or, maybe some one else would be
> interested taking on administration duties of the list. There is a cost for
> the domain name and web space.
> 
> Jonathan Mosen started the list almost twenty years ago and it might have
> out lived it's usefulness.
> 
> Comments are welcome. Best to contact me directly.
> 
> t...@pc-audio.org
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Tom Dimeo
> 
> 
> 

RE: .m3u8

[JM Casey]

Good ole' winamp handles these as well. In fact I think this is the default 
winamp playlist format,  if I'm not mistaken.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: November 17, 2017 9:05 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: .m3u8



On 11/18/2017 12:22 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> VLC Media Player has no problems with this.
>
>
>
> On 11/18/2017 12:08 PM, Georges Zaynoun wrote:
>> I wonder which player can play this type of file properly?
>> I try to open this link:
>> http://stream.lebanese-forces.com/live/RLL/playlist.m3u8
>> from outside Windows Media Player it says it might be able to open it 
>> but it doesn't, but from inside it WMP can play a minute or so then 
>> stops and I have to ctrl+u again and enter to play it, VLC and WinAMP 
>> didn't play it, help please.
>>
>

-- 

**
"For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the one's you put 
in the ground and not the electric light one's."
**

Windows 10 Skype

[Dane Trethowan]

Hi!

Wondering what list members think of the Skype App that comes part of 
Windows 10.


For the most part I like the layout but it does appear at first glance 
that the user doesn't have all the controls and settings available in 
the "Stand-Alone" Windows Desktop version of Skype, the ability to 
customise settings such as audio input and output, sounds for events etc.



--

**
"For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the one's you put in 
the ground and not the electric light one's."
**

Re: .m3u8

[Dane Trethowan]

On 11/18/2017 12:22 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

VLC Media Player has no problems with this.



On 11/18/2017 12:08 PM, Georges Zaynoun wrote:

I wonder which player can play this type of file properly?
I try to open this link:
http://stream.lebanese-forces.com/live/RLL/playlist.m3u8
from outside Windows Media Player it says it might be able to open it 
but it doesn't, but from inside it WMP can play a minute or so then 
stops and I have to ctrl+u again and enter to play it, VLC and WinAMP 
didn't play it, help please.






--

**
"For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the one's you put in 
the ground and not the electric light one's."
**

.m3u8

[Georges Zaynoun]

I wonder which player can play this type of file properly?
I try to open this link:
http://stream.lebanese-forces.com/live/RLL/playlist.m3u8
from outside Windows Media Player it says it might be able to open it 
but it doesn't, but from inside it WMP can play a minute or so then 
stops and I have to ctrl+u again and enter to play it, VLC and WinAMP 
didn't play it, help please.


--
Georges Zeinoun
Timmerv. 6A ITR LGH1102, 54163 SKÖVDESWEDEN
Tel: +46 (500) 48 29 29 +46 (500) 43 55 11

Re: zoom h1 recorder

[Aidan]

Ok thanks. I will keep in mind.

On 15/11/2017, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> Regarding the microphones? I've never heard that before.
>
> The USB is simple, when the power is off and the Zoom H1 is connected to
> the computer then the Zoom H1 acts as a storage device enabling you to
> transfer files from the Zoom H1 to your computer and vica versa.
>
> When power is on and the Zoom H1 is connected to a computer the computer
> powers the Zoom H1 which can be most useful.
>
> Be sure that your H1 has the most recent software update applied which
> enables some new features and fixes some bugs, one was really nasty - if
> the battery went flat whilst recording then part of your recording would
> wander into space -, the problem is fixed so that everything is written
> to SD card until the point when power is interrupted.
>
> Listen to Neil's review, he talks about a few tips and tricks which
> you'll find useful.
>
>
>
> On 11/14/2017 11:18 PM, Aidan wrote:
>> Thank you so much.
>> Just too things:
>> Do you find that the build in mics go softer when they get loud
>> noises? That is not a good thing, and also, when you connect it to pc,
>> does it bring up options for choosing the audio sound cardt or storage
>> device? Such as olympus? How do you select them?
>>
>> On 14/11/2017, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>>> The time and date can be set and I've done it a couple of times, when
>>> you turn the unit on you hold down the "Stop/Record" button from memory
>>> and that puts you into the settings mode for time and date.
>>>
>>> The values start from a default and I think its year, month, day, hour
>>> then minute and a press of the "Stop/Record" button advances to the next
>>> set of digits.
>>>
>>> Only problem is I don't remember exactly what the default values are as
>>> its been ages since I've bothered setting the thing.
>>>
>>> You can also perform software updates and format SD cards by holding
>>> down other buttons whilst turning the Zoom H1 on.
>>>
>>> As far as MP3? Yes, I've recorded in specific MP3 modes and again - from
>>> memory - you can select between 128 and 320K which I've done.
>>>
>>> I used my T-Coil of my hearing isntruments to determine what bit rates
>>> the MP3 was set to, you can also change the sampling rate I think bout
>>> again not sure though it would all come back to me if I picked up the
>>> unit.
>>>
>>> Do not under estimate the MP3 encoder in the Zoom H1, you could for
>>> example set the encoding to 128K and record for hours and hours, a most
>>> useful logging tool for example.
>>>
>>> The format slide switch switches between MP3 and wave so you need to use
>>> the Forward/Rewind up/down buttons whilst in "Standby" mode to set the
>>> various MP3 bit rates - when the format switch is in MP3 format mode -
>>> or the various bit and sample rates for wave - when the format switch is
>>> in the Wave format mode -.
>>>
>>> Once sample and bit rates are set then they are memorised until the
>>> machine is reset so you can switch between your favourite wave and MP3
>>> format settings with the format switch.
>>>
>>> Whilst I've recorded a lot in MP3 I never really bothered with it for
>>> most recording applications.
>>>
>>> I used a 16GB card in my machines so I had plenty of space at my
>>> disposal for hours of good quality wave recording.
>>>
>>> I also concluded that - if I wanted MP3 encoding - it was just as easy
>>> to copy my recorded wave files from the Zoom H1 to the Mac or PC and do
>>> the encoding there.
>>>
>>> I've found the review of the Zoom H1 handy recorder as featured on Blind
>>> Cool Tech - Blind Fools Wreck if you prefer - and I link to it here so I
>>> hope you'll find that useful.
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/qvtpzdtpsq420sl/bct1502ZoomH1RecorderReview.mp3?dl=0
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/14/2017 9:42 PM, Aidan wrote:
 Hamit, good idea there. They must get the message somehow.
 So dain what do you do when setting the time and date? And I guess you
 never change the bitrate for mp3? I guess that is not possible with a
 slide switch? Is wave the default?

 On 14/11/2017, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> There's been a Podcast on the Zoom H1 done on Blind Cool Tech, I have
> the whole archive here so I'll dig about, see if I can find it.
>
> In the meantime - having been a very very happy Zoom H1 user for the
> last 7 years - I can tell you that the unit is very useable though you
> need to be aware of a few things before you start recording.
>
> The H1 does have an auto recording level function but recovery time
> and
> actual functionality seems to be very poor but there are ways around
> this.
>
> Use the auto level as a reference point to set your manual recording
> level to and then start recording in manual level mode.
>
> After the recording is done you can normalise it using your 

Re: List Will Continue

[Aidan]

I am very happy about this. groups.io is a good service, I am sick of
google groups.

On 15/11/2017, Norma A. Boge  wrote:
> This is great news. Thanks, Tom, really appreciate your efforts. Norma
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
> Dimeo
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 5:26 PM
> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Subject: List Will Continue
>
> OK folks, I got the message. The pc audio list will continue, probably on
> groups.i o. Not because I'm too cheap to pay for website space, but because
> DMARC and other e-mail list constraints have made lists difficult to
> manage.
> More information to follow.
>
> Thank you all,
>
> Tom Dimeo
>
>
>
>

RE: List Will Continue

[Norma A. Boge]

This is great news. Thanks, Tom, really appreciate your efforts. Norma


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Dimeo
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 5:26 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: List Will Continue

OK folks, I got the message. The pc audio list will continue, probably on
groups.i o. Not because I'm too cheap to pay for website space, but because
DMARC and other e-mail list constraints have made lists difficult to manage.
More information to follow.

Thank you all,

Tom Dimeo

Setting up your hi-fi

[Walter via Pc-audio]

Hi folks.  Below is a link to an article by the Chord company about setting
up your hi-fi and the role good quality components play in such a system.
Of course the article speaks about things from the Chord companies product
point of view but the principles are interesting regardless of what brand
you use.  By the way this is Chord, the speaker cable and interconnects and
not the Khord Electronics company.  You will note the spelling is different.
Anyhow if it interests you the link is below.  Walter.

https://www.chord.co.uk/hi-fi-guide/


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SV: List Will Continue

[Brian Olesen]

Hi,
Sounds really good!

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Tom Dimeo
Sendt: 15. november 2017 00:26
Til: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Emne: List Will Continue

OK folks, I got the message. The pc audio list will continue, probably on
groups.i o. Not because I'm too cheap to pay for website space, but because
DMARC and other e-mail list constraints have made lists difficult to manage.
More information to follow.

Thank you all,

Tom Dimeo

RE: List Will Continue

[Colin Phelan]

Thanks Tom 

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Dimeo
Sent: 14 November 2017 23:26
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: List Will Continue

OK folks, I got the message. The pc audio list will continue, probably on
groups.i o. Not because I'm too cheap to pay for website space, but because
DMARC and other e-mail list constraints have made lists difficult to manage.
More information to follow.

Thank you all,

Tom Dimeo



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RE: List Termination

[André van Deventer]

But they are not audio related only.  So you have to sift through all kind of 
other pc tech stuff to get to what you want.

This seems to be the only list for audio related topics specifically.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Laz
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 12:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: List Termination

As with all groups.io lists all you have to do is send a blank message to the 
below two email addresses to join:

blindtech+subscr...@groups.io

main+subscr...@techtalk.groups.io

One group has over 400 members and the other has over 300.

Laz

On 11/14/17, Tom Kaufman  wrote:
> And what are the addresses of these lists?
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Laz
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 4:54 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: List Termination
>
> There are at least two very good blind tech lists on groups.io where 
> PC audio questions are asked and answered every day.
>
> Laz
>
> On 11/14/17, Tom Kaufman  wrote:
>> I have to agree with Norma here; once in a while, I've seen stuff 
>> like a message (supposedly from a subscriber) the message usually has 
>> a lin it (and of course I would never click on it) but this hasn't 
>> happened in a while!
>> While it might not be the end of the world if this list goes away, I 
>> hope it doesn't, for it is nice to know that if we have an 
>> audio-rrelated computer question, there's a place we can go to 
>> possibly get our questions answered!
>> Tom Kaufman
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Norma A.
>> Boge
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 1:48 PM
>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
>> Subject: RE: List Termination
>>
>> I guess my ISP must have a good Spam filter because I don't recall 
>> seeing any on this list.
>> I, too, have been on the list quite a while. Although the traffic 
>> isn't steady, it is nice to have a place where I know my 
>> audio-related questions will get answered. I guess I could live with 
>> the list disappearing if someone could post subscription info for 
>> other lists where our audio questions are welcome. I hope such an 
>> animal exists.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Tom Dimeo
>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:34 PM
>> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>> Subject: List Termination
>>
>> Ladies and gentlemen,
>>
>> I am seriously considering terminating the pc audio list.
>> There is very little traffic on the list but a lot of spam. Also, 
>> with the advent of DMARC I have no idea who is or is not receiving 
>> list messages.
>>
>> I could take the list to Google Groups or some other commercial 
>> e-mailing list if there is enough interest, or, maybe some one else 
>> would be interested taking on administration duties of the list. 
>> There is a cost for the domain name and web space.
>>
>> Jonathan Mosen started the list almost twenty years ago and it might 
>> have out lived it's usefulness.
>>
>> Comments are welcome. Best to contact me directly.
>>
>> t...@pc-audio.org
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Tom Dimeo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: zoom h1 recorder

[Dane Trethowan]

Regarding the microphones? I've never heard that before.

The USB is simple, when the power is off and the Zoom H1 is connected to 
the computer then the Zoom H1 acts as a storage device enabling you to 
transfer files from the Zoom H1 to your computer and vica versa.


When power is on and the Zoom H1 is connected to a computer the computer 
powers the Zoom H1 which can be most useful.


Be sure that your H1 has the most recent software update applied which 
enables some new features and fixes some bugs, one was really nasty - if 
the battery went flat whilst recording then part of your recording would 
wander into space -, the problem is fixed so that everything is written 
to SD card until the point when power is interrupted.


Listen to Neil's review, he talks about a few tips and tricks which 
you'll find useful.




On 11/14/2017 11:18 PM, Aidan wrote:

Thank you so much.
Just too things:
Do you find that the build in mics go softer when they get loud
noises? That is not a good thing, and also, when you connect it to pc,
does it bring up options for choosing the audio sound cardt or storage
device? Such as olympus? How do you select them?

On 14/11/2017, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

The time and date can be set and I've done it a couple of times, when
you turn the unit on you hold down the "Stop/Record" button from memory
and that puts you into the settings mode for time and date.

The values start from a default and I think its year, month, day, hour
then minute and a press of the "Stop/Record" button advances to the next
set of digits.

Only problem is I don't remember exactly what the default values are as
its been ages since I've bothered setting the thing.

You can also perform software updates and format SD cards by holding
down other buttons whilst turning the Zoom H1 on.

As far as MP3? Yes, I've recorded in specific MP3 modes and again - from
memory - you can select between 128 and 320K which I've done.

I used my T-Coil of my hearing isntruments to determine what bit rates
the MP3 was set to, you can also change the sampling rate I think bout
again not sure though it would all come back to me if I picked up the unit.

Do not under estimate the MP3 encoder in the Zoom H1, you could for
example set the encoding to 128K and record for hours and hours, a most
useful logging tool for example.

The format slide switch switches between MP3 and wave so you need to use
the Forward/Rewind up/down buttons whilst in "Standby" mode to set the
various MP3 bit rates - when the format switch is in MP3 format mode -
or the various bit and sample rates for wave - when the format switch is
in the Wave format mode -.

Once sample and bit rates are set then they are memorised until the
machine is reset so you can switch between your favourite wave and MP3
format settings with the format switch.

Whilst I've recorded a lot in MP3 I never really bothered with it for
most recording applications.

I used a 16GB card in my machines so I had plenty of space at my
disposal for hours of good quality wave recording.

I also concluded that - if I wanted MP3 encoding - it was just as easy
to copy my recorded wave files from the Zoom H1 to the Mac or PC and do
the encoding there.

I've found the review of the Zoom H1 handy recorder as featured on Blind
Cool Tech - Blind Fools Wreck if you prefer - and I link to it here so I
hope you'll find that useful.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qvtpzdtpsq420sl/bct1502ZoomH1RecorderReview.mp3?dl=0



On 11/14/2017 9:42 PM, Aidan wrote:

Hamit, good idea there. They must get the message somehow.
So dain what do you do when setting the time and date? And I guess you
never change the bitrate for mp3? I guess that is not possible with a
slide switch? Is wave the default?

On 14/11/2017, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

Hi!

There's been a Podcast on the Zoom H1 done on Blind Cool Tech, I have
the whole archive here so I'll dig about, see if I can find it.

In the meantime - having been a very very happy Zoom H1 user for the
last 7 years - I can tell you that the unit is very useable though you
need to be aware of a few things before you start recording.

The H1 does have an auto recording level function but recovery time and
actual functionality seems to be very poor but there are ways around
this.

Use the auto level as a reference point to set your manual recording
level to and then start recording in manual level mode.

After the recording is done you can normalise it using your computer.

The recorder has a default sampling rate of 44.1KHZ at 16 bit and
normally there would be no need to change this.

One can tell where the sampling rate is set but in order to do this -
unless you can read the screen - you need some way of picking up the
magnetic fields the processor etc of the recorder, the induction T-Coil
of my hearing instruments is just fine for this, other options might be
a sensitive phone amplifier.

The H1 has 3 switches on the back, all of 

Re: List Will Continue

[Vinny Samarco]

hi
I's surely happy the list will continue.
Thank you.
Vinny Samarco

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Dimeo 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 4:25 PM 
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org 
Subject: List Will Continue 


OK folks, I got the message. The pc audio list will
continue, probably on groups.i o. Not because I'm too
cheap to pay for website space, but because DMARC and
other e-mail list constraints have made lists difficult
to manage. More information to follow.

Thank you all,

Tom Dimeo

RE: Tapin Radio Question Again

[Dean Martineau]

Correction: after you choose your genre, you don't need to shirt+tab, you
are placed on the listing.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
Kaufman
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 9:08 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Subject: Tapin Radio Question Again

Hello listers:  I have the latest version of Tapin Radio; am trying to
figure out how the genres  menu works!  I go there; I hit Oldies".but all
the comes up is the same list that is in my favorites list; this is to say
that nothing seems to be coming up!  Am I doing something wrong?

Tom Kaufman

RE: Tapin Radio Question Again

[Dean Martineau]

I just updated to the latest version to make sure this works.  

Tab to the Search Menu button and press space.  Arrow down to the Genres
choice and press Enter.  this lands you in a vertical list of letters and
numbers which are the first letters of genre names. Arrow up or press o for
oldies, then press enter on it to activate it.  shift+tab to the resulting
list.  I get 572 or so stations from all over the globe.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
Kaufman
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 9:08 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Subject: Tapin Radio Question Again

Hello listers:  I have the latest version of Tapin Radio; am trying to
figure out how the genres  menu works!  I go there; I hit Oldies".but all
the comes up is the same list that is in my favorites list; this is to say
that nothing seems to be coming up!  Am I doing something wrong?

Tom Kaufman

Tapin Radio Question Again

[Tom Kaufman]

Hello listers:  I have the latest version of Tapin Radio; am trying to
figure out how the genres  menu works!  I go there; I hit Oldies".but all
the comes up is the same list that is in my favorites list; this is to say
that nothing seems to be coming up!  Am I doing something wrong?

Tom Kaufman

List Will Continue

[Tom Dimeo]

OK folks, I got the message. The pc audio list will
continue, probably on groups.i o. Not because I'm too
cheap to pay for website space, but because DMARC and
other e-mail list constraints have made lists difficult
to manage. More information to follow.

Thank you all,

Tom Dimeo

RE: List Termination

[Tom Kaufman]

Thanks for this; will keep this around for future reference!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Laz
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 5:24 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: List Termination

As with all groups.io lists all you have to do is send a blank message
to the below two email addresses to join:

blindtech+subscr...@groups.io

main+subscr...@techtalk.groups.io

One group has over 400 members and the other has over 300.

Laz

On 11/14/17, Tom Kaufman  wrote:
> And what are the addresses of these lists?
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Laz
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 4:54 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: List Termination
>
> There are at least two very good blind tech lists on groups.io where
> PC audio questions are asked and answered every day.
>
> Laz
>
> On 11/14/17, Tom Kaufman  wrote:
>> I have to agree with Norma here; once in a while, I've seen stuff like a
>> message (supposedly from a subscriber) the message usually has a lin it
>> (and
>> of course I would never click on it) but this hasn't happened in a while!
>> While it might not be the end of the world if this list goes away, I hope
>> it
>> doesn't, for it is nice to know that if we have an audio-rrelated
>> computer
>> question, there's a place we can go to possibly get our questions
>> answered!
>> Tom Kaufman
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Norma
>> A.
>> Boge
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 1:48 PM
>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
>> Subject: RE: List Termination
>>
>> I guess my ISP must have a good Spam filter because I don't recall seeing
>> any on this list.
>> I, too, have been on the list quite a while. Although the traffic isn't
>> steady, it is nice to have a place where I know my audio-related
>> questions
>> will get answered. I guess I could live with the list disappearing if
>> someone could post subscription info for other lists where our audio
>> questions are welcome. I hope such an animal exists.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
>> Dimeo
>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:34 PM
>> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>> Subject: List Termination
>>
>> Ladies and gentlemen,
>>
>> I am seriously considering terminating the pc audio list.
>> There is very little traffic on the list but a lot of spam. Also, with
>> the
>> advent of DMARC I have no idea who is or is not receiving list messages.
>>
>> I could take the list to Google Groups or some other commercial e-mailing
>> list if there is enough interest, or, maybe some one else would be
>> interested taking on administration duties of the list. There is a cost
>> for
>> the domain name and web space.
>>
>> Jonathan Mosen started the list almost twenty years ago and it might have
>> out lived it's usefulness.
>>
>> Comments are welcome. Best to contact me directly.
>>
>> t...@pc-audio.org
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Tom Dimeo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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>
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Re: List Termination

[Laz]

As with all groups.io lists all you have to do is send a blank message
to the below two email addresses to join:

blindtech+subscr...@groups.io

main+subscr...@techtalk.groups.io

One group has over 400 members and the other has over 300.

Laz

On 11/14/17, Tom Kaufman  wrote:
> And what are the addresses of these lists?
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Laz
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 4:54 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: List Termination
>
> There are at least two very good blind tech lists on groups.io where
> PC audio questions are asked and answered every day.
>
> Laz
>
> On 11/14/17, Tom Kaufman  wrote:
>> I have to agree with Norma here; once in a while, I've seen stuff like a
>> message (supposedly from a subscriber) the message usually has a lin it
>> (and
>> of course I would never click on it) but this hasn't happened in a while!
>> While it might not be the end of the world if this list goes away, I hope
>> it
>> doesn't, for it is nice to know that if we have an audio-rrelated
>> computer
>> question, there's a place we can go to possibly get our questions
>> answered!
>> Tom Kaufman
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Norma
>> A.
>> Boge
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 1:48 PM
>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
>> Subject: RE: List Termination
>>
>> I guess my ISP must have a good Spam filter because I don't recall seeing
>> any on this list.
>> I, too, have been on the list quite a while. Although the traffic isn't
>> steady, it is nice to have a place where I know my audio-related
>> questions
>> will get answered. I guess I could live with the list disappearing if
>> someone could post subscription info for other lists where our audio
>> questions are welcome. I hope such an animal exists.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
>> Dimeo
>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:34 PM
>> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>> Subject: List Termination
>>
>> Ladies and gentlemen,
>>
>> I am seriously considering terminating the pc audio list.
>> There is very little traffic on the list but a lot of spam. Also, with
>> the
>> advent of DMARC I have no idea who is or is not receiving list messages.
>>
>> I could take the list to Google Groups or some other commercial e-mailing
>> list if there is enough interest, or, maybe some one else would be
>> interested taking on administration duties of the list. There is a cost
>> for
>> the domain name and web space.
>>
>> Jonathan Mosen started the list almost twenty years ago and it might have
>> out lived it's usefulness.
>>
>> Comments are welcome. Best to contact me directly.
>>
>> t...@pc-audio.org
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Tom Dimeo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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> Bluetooth devices, and accessories
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> Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/Talkingmp3players?_rdr
>
>
>


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RE: List Termination

[Tom Kaufman]

And what are the addresses of these lists?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Laz
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 4:54 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: List Termination

There are at least two very good blind tech lists on groups.io where
PC audio questions are asked and answered every day.

Laz

On 11/14/17, Tom Kaufman  wrote:
> I have to agree with Norma here; once in a while, I've seen stuff like a
> message (supposedly from a subscriber) the message usually has a lin it
> (and
> of course I would never click on it) but this hasn't happened in a while!
> While it might not be the end of the world if this list goes away, I hope
> it
> doesn't, for it is nice to know that if we have an audio-rrelated computer
> question, there's a place we can go to possibly get our questions answered!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Norma A.
> Boge
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 1:48 PM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
> Subject: RE: List Termination
>
> I guess my ISP must have a good Spam filter because I don't recall seeing
> any on this list.
> I, too, have been on the list quite a while. Although the traffic isn't
> steady, it is nice to have a place where I know my audio-related questions
> will get answered. I guess I could live with the list disappearing if
> someone could post subscription info for other lists where our audio
> questions are welcome. I hope such an animal exists.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
> Dimeo
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:34 PM
> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Subject: List Termination
>
> Ladies and gentlemen,
>
> I am seriously considering terminating the pc audio list.
> There is very little traffic on the list but a lot of spam. Also, with the
> advent of DMARC I have no idea who is or is not receiving list messages.
>
> I could take the list to Google Groups or some other commercial e-mailing
> list if there is enough interest, or, maybe some one else would be
> interested taking on administration duties of the list. There is a cost for
> the domain name and web space.
>
> Jonathan Mosen started the list almost twenty years ago and it might have
> out lived it's usefulness.
>
> Comments are welcome. Best to contact me directly.
>
> t...@pc-audio.org
>
> Thank you,
>
> Tom Dimeo
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: List Termination

[randy tijerina]

where can I subscribe.to for pc audio stuff if this list will be closing?
At 03:54 PM 11/14/2017, you wrote:

There are at least two very good blind tech lists on groups.io where
PC audio questions are asked and answered every day.

Laz

On 11/14/17, Tom Kaufman  wrote:
> I have to agree with Norma here; once in a while, I've seen stuff like a
> message (supposedly from a subscriber) the message usually has a lin it
> (and
> of course I would never click on it) but this hasn't happened in a while!
> While it might not be the end of the world if this list goes away, I hope
> it
> doesn't, for it is nice to know that if we have an audio-rrelated computer
> question, there's a place we can go to possibly get our questions answered!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Norma A.
> Boge
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 1:48 PM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
> Subject: RE: List Termination
>
> I guess my ISP must have a good Spam filter because I don't recall seeing
> any on this list.
> I, too, have been on the list quite a while. Although the traffic isn't
> steady, it is nice to have a place where I know my audio-related questions
> will get answered. I guess I could live with the list disappearing if
> someone could post subscription info for other lists where our audio
> questions are welcome. I hope such an animal exists.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
> Dimeo
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:34 PM
> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Subject: List Termination
>
> Ladies and gentlemen,
>
> I am seriously considering terminating the pc audio list.
> There is very little traffic on the list but a lot of spam. Also, with the
> advent of DMARC I have no idea who is or is not receiving list messages.
>
> I could take the list to Google Groups or some other commercial e-mailing
> list if there is enough interest, or, maybe some one else would be
> interested taking on administration duties of the list. There is a cost for
> the domain name and web space.
>
> Jonathan Mosen started the list almost twenty years ago and it might have
> out lived it's usefulness.
>
> Comments are welcome. Best to contact me directly.
>
> t...@pc-audio.org
>
> Thank you,
>
> Tom Dimeo
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: List Termination

[Laz]

There are at least two very good blind tech lists on groups.io where
PC audio questions are asked and answered every day.

Laz

On 11/14/17, Tom Kaufman  wrote:
> I have to agree with Norma here; once in a while, I've seen stuff like a
> message (supposedly from a subscriber) the message usually has a lin it
> (and
> of course I would never click on it) but this hasn't happened in a while!
> While it might not be the end of the world if this list goes away, I hope
> it
> doesn't, for it is nice to know that if we have an audio-rrelated computer
> question, there's a place we can go to possibly get our questions answered!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Norma A.
> Boge
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 1:48 PM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
> Subject: RE: List Termination
>
> I guess my ISP must have a good Spam filter because I don't recall seeing
> any on this list.
> I, too, have been on the list quite a while. Although the traffic isn't
> steady, it is nice to have a place where I know my audio-related questions
> will get answered. I guess I could live with the list disappearing if
> someone could post subscription info for other lists where our audio
> questions are welcome. I hope such an animal exists.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
> Dimeo
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:34 PM
> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Subject: List Termination
>
> Ladies and gentlemen,
>
> I am seriously considering terminating the pc audio list.
> There is very little traffic on the list but a lot of spam. Also, with the
> advent of DMARC I have no idea who is or is not receiving list messages.
>
> I could take the list to Google Groups or some other commercial e-mailing
> list if there is enough interest, or, maybe some one else would be
> interested taking on administration duties of the list. There is a cost for
> the domain name and web space.
>
> Jonathan Mosen started the list almost twenty years ago and it might have
> out lived it's usefulness.
>
> Comments are welcome. Best to contact me directly.
>
> t...@pc-audio.org
>
> Thank you,
>
> Tom Dimeo
>
>
>
>
>


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RE: List Termination

[Tom Kaufman]

I have to agree with Norma here; once in a while, I've seen stuff like a
message (supposedly from a subscriber) the message usually has a lin it (and
of course I would never click on it) but this hasn't happened in a while!
While it might not be the end of the world if this list goes away, I hope it
doesn't, for it is nice to know that if we have an audio-rrelated computer
question, there's a place we can go to possibly get our questions answered!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Norma A.
Boge
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 1:48 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Subject: RE: List Termination

I guess my ISP must have a good Spam filter because I don't recall seeing
any on this list.
I, too, have been on the list quite a while. Although the traffic isn't
steady, it is nice to have a place where I know my audio-related questions
will get answered. I guess I could live with the list disappearing if
someone could post subscription info for other lists where our audio
questions are welcome. I hope such an animal exists.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Dimeo
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:34 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: List Termination

Ladies and gentlemen,

I am seriously considering terminating the pc audio list.
There is very little traffic on the list but a lot of spam. Also, with the
advent of DMARC I have no idea who is or is not receiving list messages.

I could take the list to Google Groups or some other commercial e-mailing
list if there is enough interest, or, maybe some one else would be
interested taking on administration duties of the list. There is a cost for
the domain name and web space.

Jonathan Mosen started the list almost twenty years ago and it might have
out lived it's usefulness.

Comments are welcome. Best to contact me directly.

t...@pc-audio.org

Thank you,

Tom Dimeo

Re: List Termination

[Taylor Arndt]

There’s an audacity with

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 14, 2017, at 1:48 PM, Norma A. Boge  wrote:
> 
> I guess my ISP must have a good Spam filter because I don't recall seeing
> any on this list.
> I, too, have been on the list quite a while. Although the traffic isn't
> steady, it is nice to have a place where I know my audio-related questions
> will get answered. I guess I could live with the list disappearing if
> someone could post subscription info for other lists where our audio
> questions are welcome. I hope such an animal exists.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Dimeo
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:34 PM
> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Subject: List Termination
> 
> Ladies and gentlemen,
> 
> I am seriously considering terminating the pc audio list.
> There is very little traffic on the list but a lot of spam. Also, with the
> advent of DMARC I have no idea who is or is not receiving list messages.
> 
> I could take the list to Google Groups or some other commercial e-mailing
> list if there is enough interest, or, maybe some one else would be
> interested taking on administration duties of the list. There is a cost for
> the domain name and web space.
> 
> Jonathan Mosen started the list almost twenty years ago and it might have
> out lived it's usefulness.
> 
> Comments are welcome. Best to contact me directly.
> 
> t...@pc-audio.org
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Tom Dimeo
> 
> 
> 

Re: List Termination

[Evan Reese]

I would agree with this, but then again, my email provider is very good at 
filtering out spam. Making allowances for my fallible memory, it's possible 
that some came through, but it couldn't be a lot.
I don't post here often, but I also like reading about audio equipment, even 
if I don't plan to buy any particular item.

Evan

-Original Message- 
From: Norma A. Boge

Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 1:48 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: List Termination

I guess my ISP must have a good Spam filter because I don't recall seeing
any on this list.
I, too, have been on the list quite a while. Although the traffic isn't
steady, it is nice to have a place where I know my audio-related questions
will get answered. I guess I could live with the list disappearing if
someone could post subscription info for other lists where our audio
questions are welcome. I hope such an animal exists.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Dimeo
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:34 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: List Termination

Ladies and gentlemen,

I am seriously considering terminating the pc audio list.
There is very little traffic on the list but a lot of spam. Also, with the
advent of DMARC I have no idea who is or is not receiving list messages.

I could take the list to Google Groups or some other commercial e-mailing
list if there is enough interest, or, maybe some one else would be
interested taking on administration duties of the list. There is a cost for
the domain name and web space.

Jonathan Mosen started the list almost twenty years ago and it might have
out lived it's usefulness.

Comments are welcome. Best to contact me directly.

t...@pc-audio.org

Thank you,

Tom Dimeo

RE: List Termination

[Norma A. Boge]

I guess my ISP must have a good Spam filter because I don't recall seeing
any on this list.
I, too, have been on the list quite a while. Although the traffic isn't
steady, it is nice to have a place where I know my audio-related questions
will get answered. I guess I could live with the list disappearing if
someone could post subscription info for other lists where our audio
questions are welcome. I hope such an animal exists.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Dimeo
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:34 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: List Termination

Ladies and gentlemen,

I am seriously considering terminating the pc audio list.
There is very little traffic on the list but a lot of spam. Also, with the
advent of DMARC I have no idea who is or is not receiving list messages.

I could take the list to Google Groups or some other commercial e-mailing
list if there is enough interest, or, maybe some one else would be
interested taking on administration duties of the list. There is a cost for
the domain name and web space.

Jonathan Mosen started the list almost twenty years ago and it might have
out lived it's usefulness.

Comments are welcome. Best to contact me directly.

t...@pc-audio.org

Thank you,

Tom Dimeo

Re: zoom h1 recorder

[Aidan]

Thank you so much.
Just too things:
Do you find that the build in mics go softer when they get loud
noises? That is not a good thing, and also, when you connect it to pc,
does it bring up options for choosing the audio sound cardt or storage
device? Such as olympus? How do you select them?

On 14/11/2017, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> The time and date can be set and I've done it a couple of times, when
> you turn the unit on you hold down the "Stop/Record" button from memory
> and that puts you into the settings mode for time and date.
>
> The values start from a default and I think its year, month, day, hour
> then minute and a press of the "Stop/Record" button advances to the next
> set of digits.
>
> Only problem is I don't remember exactly what the default values are as
> its been ages since I've bothered setting the thing.
>
> You can also perform software updates and format SD cards by holding
> down other buttons whilst turning the Zoom H1 on.
>
> As far as MP3? Yes, I've recorded in specific MP3 modes and again - from
> memory - you can select between 128 and 320K which I've done.
>
> I used my T-Coil of my hearing isntruments to determine what bit rates
> the MP3 was set to, you can also change the sampling rate I think bout
> again not sure though it would all come back to me if I picked up the unit.
>
> Do not under estimate the MP3 encoder in the Zoom H1, you could for
> example set the encoding to 128K and record for hours and hours, a most
> useful logging tool for example.
>
> The format slide switch switches between MP3 and wave so you need to use
> the Forward/Rewind up/down buttons whilst in "Standby" mode to set the
> various MP3 bit rates - when the format switch is in MP3 format mode -
> or the various bit and sample rates for wave - when the format switch is
> in the Wave format mode -.
>
> Once sample and bit rates are set then they are memorised until the
> machine is reset so you can switch between your favourite wave and MP3
> format settings with the format switch.
>
> Whilst I've recorded a lot in MP3 I never really bothered with it for
> most recording applications.
>
> I used a 16GB card in my machines so I had plenty of space at my
> disposal for hours of good quality wave recording.
>
> I also concluded that - if I wanted MP3 encoding - it was just as easy
> to copy my recorded wave files from the Zoom H1 to the Mac or PC and do
> the encoding there.
>
> I've found the review of the Zoom H1 handy recorder as featured on Blind
> Cool Tech - Blind Fools Wreck if you prefer - and I link to it here so I
> hope you'll find that useful.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/qvtpzdtpsq420sl/bct1502ZoomH1RecorderReview.mp3?dl=0
>
>
>
> On 11/14/2017 9:42 PM, Aidan wrote:
>> Hamit, good idea there. They must get the message somehow.
>> So dain what do you do when setting the time and date? And I guess you
>> never change the bitrate for mp3? I guess that is not possible with a
>> slide switch? Is wave the default?
>>
>> On 14/11/2017, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> There's been a Podcast on the Zoom H1 done on Blind Cool Tech, I have
>>> the whole archive here so I'll dig about, see if I can find it.
>>>
>>> In the meantime - having been a very very happy Zoom H1 user for the
>>> last 7 years - I can tell you that the unit is very useable though you
>>> need to be aware of a few things before you start recording.
>>>
>>> The H1 does have an auto recording level function but recovery time and
>>> actual functionality seems to be very poor but there are ways around
>>> this.
>>>
>>> Use the auto level as a reference point to set your manual recording
>>> level to and then start recording in manual level mode.
>>>
>>> After the recording is done you can normalise it using your computer.
>>>
>>> The recorder has a default sampling rate of 44.1KHZ at 16 bit and
>>> normally there would be no need to change this.
>>>
>>> One can tell where the sampling rate is set but in order to do this -
>>> unless you can read the screen - you need some way of picking up the
>>> magnetic fields the processor etc of the recorder, the induction T-Coil
>>> of my hearing instruments is just fine for this, other options might be
>>> a sensitive phone amplifier.
>>>
>>> The H1 has 3 switches on the back, all of which are toggle switches and
>>> by default are set to down which is the off position, those switches are
>>> low-cut filter, manual/auto recording level and recording format - Wave
>>> or MP3 -.
>>>
>>> When the recorder is switched on it defaults to the "Standby" mode
>>> meaning the unit is ready to record when the "Record/Stop" button is
>>> pressed, the button is easily identifiable by its size and the round
>>> circle which encloses it on the front of the recorder.
>>>
>>> Whilst recording press the "Play" button - a small round button marked
>>> with a dot in later H1 models - to mark a position in a recording, press
>>> the "Record/stop" button 

Re: zoom h1 recorder

[Dane Trethowan]

The time and date can be set and I've done it a couple of times, when 
you turn the unit on you hold down the "Stop/Record" button from memory 
and that puts you into the settings mode for time and date.


The values start from a default and I think its year, month, day, hour 
then minute and a press of the "Stop/Record" button advances to the next 
set of digits.


Only problem is I don't remember exactly what the default values are as 
its been ages since I've bothered setting the thing.


You can also perform software updates and format SD cards by holding 
down other buttons whilst turning the Zoom H1 on.


As far as MP3? Yes, I've recorded in specific MP3 modes and again - from 
memory - you can select between 128 and 320K which I've done.


I used my T-Coil of my hearing isntruments to determine what bit rates 
the MP3 was set to, you can also change the sampling rate I think bout 
again not sure though it would all come back to me if I picked up the unit.


Do not under estimate the MP3 encoder in the Zoom H1, you could for 
example set the encoding to 128K and record for hours and hours, a most 
useful logging tool for example.


The format slide switch switches between MP3 and wave so you need to use 
the Forward/Rewind up/down buttons whilst in "Standby" mode to set the 
various MP3 bit rates - when the format switch is in MP3 format mode - 
or the various bit and sample rates for wave - when the format switch is 
in the Wave format mode -.


Once sample and bit rates are set then they are memorised until the 
machine is reset so you can switch between your favourite wave and MP3 
format settings with the format switch.


Whilst I've recorded a lot in MP3 I never really bothered with it for 
most recording applications.


I used a 16GB card in my machines so I had plenty of space at my 
disposal for hours of good quality wave recording.


I also concluded that - if I wanted MP3 encoding - it was just as easy 
to copy my recorded wave files from the Zoom H1 to the Mac or PC and do 
the encoding there.


I've found the review of the Zoom H1 handy recorder as featured on Blind 
Cool Tech - Blind Fools Wreck if you prefer - and I link to it here so I 
hope you'll find that useful.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/qvtpzdtpsq420sl/bct1502ZoomH1RecorderReview.mp3?dl=0



On 11/14/2017 9:42 PM, Aidan wrote:

Hamit, good idea there. They must get the message somehow.
So dain what do you do when setting the time and date? And I guess you
never change the bitrate for mp3? I guess that is not possible with a
slide switch? Is wave the default?

On 14/11/2017, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

Hi!

There's been a Podcast on the Zoom H1 done on Blind Cool Tech, I have
the whole archive here so I'll dig about, see if I can find it.

In the meantime - having been a very very happy Zoom H1 user for the
last 7 years - I can tell you that the unit is very useable though you
need to be aware of a few things before you start recording.

The H1 does have an auto recording level function but recovery time and
actual functionality seems to be very poor but there are ways around this.

Use the auto level as a reference point to set your manual recording
level to and then start recording in manual level mode.

After the recording is done you can normalise it using your computer.

The recorder has a default sampling rate of 44.1KHZ at 16 bit and
normally there would be no need to change this.

One can tell where the sampling rate is set but in order to do this -
unless you can read the screen - you need some way of picking up the
magnetic fields the processor etc of the recorder, the induction T-Coil
of my hearing instruments is just fine for this, other options might be
a sensitive phone amplifier.

The H1 has 3 switches on the back, all of which are toggle switches and
by default are set to down which is the off position, those switches are
low-cut filter, manual/auto recording level and recording format - Wave
or MP3 -.

When the recorder is switched on it defaults to the "Standby" mode
meaning the unit is ready to record when the "Record/Stop" button is
pressed, the button is easily identifiable by its size and the round
circle which encloses it on the front of the recorder.

Whilst recording press the "Play" button - a small round button marked
with a dot in later H1 models - to mark a position in a recording, press
the "Record/stop" button to end a recording and press again to start a
new recording, recordings can be manipulated when on your computer with
a Sound editor.

During playback recordings can be erased, use the forward/back buttons
to move amongst your recordings and press the "Erase" button on the
recording you wish to delete - the erase button is slightly indented
from the rest of the buttons -.

At this point the display brings up a confirmation dialog and I'm not
sure exactly what you do here, I think you press "stop/record" to
confirm or any other button to cancel, been a while since I've 

Re: zoom h1 recorder

[Aidan]

Hamit, good idea there. They must get the message somehow.
So dain what do you do when setting the time and date? And I guess you
never change the bitrate for mp3? I guess that is not possible with a
slide switch? Is wave the default?

On 14/11/2017, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> There's been a Podcast on the Zoom H1 done on Blind Cool Tech, I have
> the whole archive here so I'll dig about, see if I can find it.
>
> In the meantime - having been a very very happy Zoom H1 user for the
> last 7 years - I can tell you that the unit is very useable though you
> need to be aware of a few things before you start recording.
>
> The H1 does have an auto recording level function but recovery time and
> actual functionality seems to be very poor but there are ways around this.
>
> Use the auto level as a reference point to set your manual recording
> level to and then start recording in manual level mode.
>
> After the recording is done you can normalise it using your computer.
>
> The recorder has a default sampling rate of 44.1KHZ at 16 bit and
> normally there would be no need to change this.
>
> One can tell where the sampling rate is set but in order to do this -
> unless you can read the screen - you need some way of picking up the
> magnetic fields the processor etc of the recorder, the induction T-Coil
> of my hearing instruments is just fine for this, other options might be
> a sensitive phone amplifier.
>
> The H1 has 3 switches on the back, all of which are toggle switches and
> by default are set to down which is the off position, those switches are
> low-cut filter, manual/auto recording level and recording format - Wave
> or MP3 -.
>
> When the recorder is switched on it defaults to the "Standby" mode
> meaning the unit is ready to record when the "Record/Stop" button is
> pressed, the button is easily identifiable by its size and the round
> circle which encloses it on the front of the recorder.
>
> Whilst recording press the "Play" button - a small round button marked
> with a dot in later H1 models - to mark a position in a recording, press
> the "Record/stop" button to end a recording and press again to start a
> new recording, recordings can be manipulated when on your computer with
> a Sound editor.
>
> During playback recordings can be erased, use the forward/back buttons
> to move amongst your recordings and press the "Erase" button on the
> recording you wish to delete - the erase button is slightly indented
> from the rest of the buttons -.
>
> At this point the display brings up a confirmation dialog and I'm not
> sure exactly what you do here, I think you press "stop/record" to
> confirm or any other button to cancel, been a while since I've used the
> unit.
>
> Anyway good luck and I hope you enjoy your H1 just as much as I've
> enjoyed mine.
>
>
>
> On 11/14/2017 9:25 AM, Aidan wrote:
>> Hello.
>> Does anyone no if Neil did a podcast on this, if so, can you pass it on
>> please?
>> Probibly the only zoom you can used with comfort?
>> I did email them before to ask if they can make their recorders
>> accessible, but they din't even answer me.
>> I guess no luck there.
>> I think they not aware of the importance of recording good quality for
>> us as well.
>> If they include human speech, they don't have to pay so much extra
>> costs such as olympus does with the dm7 since it uses tts.
>> And maybe a staff member will do it for free? who noes?
>>
>
> --
>
> **
> "For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the one's you
> put in the ground and not the electric light one's."
> **
>
>
>

Re: List Termination

[David La Caille]

hi so sorry to hear this.
i have bean on this mailing list for a very long time.
anyway for the person who make websites could you contact me off list 
please.


- Original Message - 
From: "Taylor Arndt" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: List Termination


Well, I am a web designer. So if you need any help with this, I will be more 
than happy. I think groups.IO is a good platform, and are use that to host 
my mailing list which is for my web design company.


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 13, 2017, at 6:34 PM, Tom Dimeo  wrote:

Ladies and gentlemen,

I am seriously considering terminating the pc audio list.
There is very little traffic on the list but a lot of
spam. Also, with the advent of DMARC I have no idea who
is or is not receiving list messages.

I could take the list to Google Groups or some other
commercial e-mailing list if there is enough interest,
or, maybe some one else would be interested taking on
administration duties of the list. There is a cost for
the domain name and web space.

Jonathan Mosen started the list almost twenty years ago
and it might have out lived it's usefulness.

Comments are welcome. Best to contact me directly.

t...@pc-audio.org

Thank you,

Tom Dimeo

Re: Sound Forge 11 Question

[Dane Trethowan]

Yep, I've seen that problem too but can't remember how I fixed it and if 
the MS Framework thing was responsible, I do know that I found others 
were having similar issues thanks to Google.


Has anyone been using Sound Forge Audio Studio 12 and how have they 
found that.




On 11/14/2017 11:13 AM, steve.jacob...@visi.com wrote:

Dane,

Do you know if this also corrects the problem where Sound Forge thinks that it 
has not been activated yet?  I have this problem but it disappears if one runs 
it as administrator.  I also understand that gets around the low memory problem 
but have not encountered that.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 2:40 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Sound Forge 11 Question

Check to see that Microsoft Framework is properly installed, you'll find
what you want there in add/remove components/features.

Once this is done uninstall/remove Sound Forge and try the installation
again.

The error you're encountering should be fixed.



On 11/14/2017 7:32 AM, Quinten Pendle wrote:

Hi all

   


I recently bought SF 11 together with Samplitude, and installed it on both
my computers. On both pc's I can't even open a 30 second file in Sound Forge
due to apparent low memory, even though on my work machine there's 2 tb hd
space, 16 gig ram and an 8 core processor.

Also, I can confirm that no other program is running in the background while
I have SF open.

Is there a way to solve this? I would appreciate any help an  suggestions.

   


All the best

Quinten Pendle

   



--

**
"For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the one's you put in 
the ground and not the electric light one's."
**

RE: Sound Forge 11 Question

[steve.jacobson]

Dane,

Do you know if this also corrects the problem where Sound Forge thinks that it 
has not been activated yet?  I have this problem but it disappears if one runs 
it as administrator.  I also understand that gets around the low memory problem 
but have not encountered that.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 2:40 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Sound Forge 11 Question

Check to see that Microsoft Framework is properly installed, you'll find 
what you want there in add/remove components/features.

Once this is done uninstall/remove Sound Forge and try the installation 
again.

The error you're encountering should be fixed.



On 11/14/2017 7:32 AM, Quinten Pendle wrote:
> Hi all
>
>   
>
> I recently bought SF 11 together with Samplitude, and installed it on both
> my computers. On both pc's I can't even open a 30 second file in Sound Forge
> due to apparent low memory, even though on my work machine there's 2 tb hd
> space, 16 gig ram and an 8 core processor.
>
> Also, I can confirm that no other program is running in the background while
> I have SF open.
>
> Is there a way to solve this? I would appreciate any help an  suggestions.
>
>   
>
> All the best
>
> Quinten Pendle
>
>   
>

-- 

**
"For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the one's 
you put in the ground and not the electric light one's."
**

Re: List Termination

[Taylor Arndt]

Well, I am a web designer. So if you need any help with this, I will be more 
than happy. I think groups.IO is a good platform, and are use that to host my 
mailing list which is for my web design company.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 13, 2017, at 6:34 PM, Tom Dimeo  wrote:
> 
> Ladies and gentlemen,
> 
> I am seriously considering terminating the pc audio list.
> There is very little traffic on the list but a lot of
> spam. Also, with the advent of DMARC I have no idea who
> is or is not receiving list messages.
> 
> I could take the list to Google Groups or some other
> commercial e-mailing list if there is enough interest,
> or, maybe some one else would be interested taking on
> administration duties of the list. There is a cost for
> the domain name and web space.
> 
> Jonathan Mosen started the list almost twenty years ago
> and it might have out lived it's usefulness.
> 
> Comments are welcome. Best to contact me directly.
> 
> t...@pc-audio.org
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Tom Dimeo
> 
> 

List Termination

[Tom Dimeo]

Ladies and gentlemen,

I am seriously considering terminating the pc audio list.
There is very little traffic on the list but a lot of
spam. Also, with the advent of DMARC I have no idea who
is or is not receiving list messages.

I could take the list to Google Groups or some other
commercial e-mailing list if there is enough interest,
or, maybe some one else would be interested taking on
administration duties of the list. There is a cost for
the domain name and web space.

Jonathan Mosen started the list almost twenty years ago
and it might have out lived it's usefulness.

Comments are welcome. Best to contact me directly.

t...@pc-audio.org

Thank you,

Tom Dimeo

Re: zoom h1 recorder

[Dane Trethowan]

Hi!

There's been a Podcast on the Zoom H1 done on Blind Cool Tech, I have 
the whole archive here so I'll dig about, see if I can find it.


In the meantime - having been a very very happy Zoom H1 user for the 
last 7 years - I can tell you that the unit is very useable though you 
need to be aware of a few things before you start recording.


The H1 does have an auto recording level function but recovery time and 
actual functionality seems to be very poor but there are ways around this.


Use the auto level as a reference point to set your manual recording 
level to and then start recording in manual level mode.


After the recording is done you can normalise it using your computer.

The recorder has a default sampling rate of 44.1KHZ at 16 bit and 
normally there would be no need to change this.


One can tell where the sampling rate is set but in order to do this - 
unless you can read the screen - you need some way of picking up the 
magnetic fields the processor etc of the recorder, the induction T-Coil 
of my hearing instruments is just fine for this, other options might be 
a sensitive phone amplifier.


The H1 has 3 switches on the back, all of which are toggle switches and 
by default are set to down which is the off position, those switches are 
low-cut filter, manual/auto recording level and recording format - Wave 
or MP3 -.


When the recorder is switched on it defaults to the "Standby" mode 
meaning the unit is ready to record when the "Record/Stop" button is 
pressed, the button is easily identifiable by its size and the round 
circle which encloses it on the front of the recorder.


Whilst recording press the "Play" button - a small round button marked 
with a dot in later H1 models - to mark a position in a recording, press 
the "Record/stop" button to end a recording and press again to start a 
new recording, recordings can be manipulated when on your computer with 
a Sound editor.


During playback recordings can be erased, use the forward/back buttons 
to move amongst your recordings and press the "Erase" button on the 
recording you wish to delete - the erase button is slightly indented 
from the rest of the buttons -.


At this point the display brings up a confirmation dialog and I'm not 
sure exactly what you do here, I think you press "stop/record" to 
confirm or any other button to cancel, been a while since I've used the 
unit.


Anyway good luck and I hope you enjoy your H1 just as much as I've 
enjoyed mine.




On 11/14/2017 9:25 AM, Aidan wrote:

Hello.
Does anyone no if Neil did a podcast on this, if so, can you pass it on please?
Probibly the only zoom you can used with comfort?
I did email them before to ask if they can make their recorders
accessible, but they din't even answer me.
I guess no luck there.
I think they not aware of the importance of recording good quality for
us as well.
If they include human speech, they don't have to pay so much extra
costs such as olympus does with the dm7 since it uses tts.
And maybe a staff member will do it for free? who noes?



--

**
"For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the one's you put in 
the ground and not the electric light one's."
**

zoom h1 recorder

[Aidan]

Hello.
Does anyone no if Neil did a podcast on this, if so, can you pass it on please?
Probibly the only zoom you can used with comfort?
I did email them before to ask if they can make their recorders
accessible, but they din't even answer me.
I guess no luck there.
I think they not aware of the importance of recording good quality for
us as well.
If they include human speech, they don't have to pay so much extra
costs such as olympus does with the dm7 since it uses tts.
And maybe a staff member will do it for free? who noes?

Re: Sound Forge 11 Question

[Dane Trethowan]

Check to see that Microsoft Framework is properly installed, you'll find 
what you want there in add/remove components/features.


Once this is done uninstall/remove Sound Forge and try the installation 
again.


The error you're encountering should be fixed.



On 11/14/2017 7:32 AM, Quinten Pendle wrote:

Hi all

  


I recently bought SF 11 together with Samplitude, and installed it on both
my computers. On both pc's I can't even open a 30 second file in Sound Forge
due to apparent low memory, even though on my work machine there's 2 tb hd
space, 16 gig ram and an 8 core processor.

Also, I can confirm that no other program is running in the background while
I have SF open.

Is there a way to solve this? I would appreciate any help an  suggestions.

  


All the best

Quinten Pendle

  



--

**
"For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the one's 
you put in the ground and not the electric light one's."

**

Sound Forge 11 Question

[Quinten Pendle]

Hi all

 

I recently bought SF 11 together with Samplitude, and installed it on both
my computers. On both pc's I can't even open a 30 second file in Sound Forge
due to apparent low memory, even though on my work machine there's 2 tb hd
space, 16 gig ram and an 8 core processor.

Also, I can confirm that no other program is running in the background while
I have SF open.

Is there a way to solve this? I would appreciate any help an  suggestions.

 

All the best

Quinten Pendle

 

RE: Question about LS-14 digital recorder

[JOHN RIEHL]

Thanks, everyone!

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 1:58 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question about LS-14 digital recorder

 Yes, you can change the playback speed as said above. Also, while
recording, you can press the F3 function button, and it will place a
bookmark for use silently.  When power off and on again, the playback speed
stays the same.
On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 at 20:40, Joe Paton  wrote:

> Hello John,
>
> When you start replaying a file, the default state of the ring, is 12
> o'clock is volume up, 6 o;'clock is volume down.  9 and 3, are back and
> forward through the files on the recorder.
>
> While playing a file, press the enter key, the key in the middle of the
> ring, once, then the up and down positions on the dial act as increase
> speed 12 o'clock, decrease speed 6 o'clock.  Pressint the enter after
> this, takes you back to the default action which is volume up and down.
> If you do nothing, having made a playback speed change, the control
> defaults back to volume.  What I don't know, is how to get playback back
> to normal, apart from using my ears.  I suspect that if the recorder is
> turned off, then it reverts back to standard playback speed.
>
> I think there about 23 or 24 steps from slowest to fastest speed.
>
> Hope this helps.
> On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 10:32:38 -0500
> "JOHN RIEHL"  wrote:
>
> > Hi. I listened to Neil Ewers' excellent podcast on the Sony LS-14
> recorder. I'm thinking of getting the recorder but I have one question. Is
> there a way of varying the playback speed? I often record meetings to take
> minutes and I'd like to speed up playback. I didn't hear anything about
> that in Neil's podcast. Thanks. John
> >
>
> Joe Paton
> telephone: 01702 543624
> Mobile: 0 7 9 6 7 3 8 2 9 6 4
>  web site: http://www.apart.org
>
>
>
>

Re: Question about LS-14 digital recorder

[Aidan]

 Yes, you can change the playback speed as said above. Also, while
recording, you can press the F3 function button, and it will place a
bookmark for use silently.  When power off and on again, the playback speed
stays the same.
On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 at 20:40, Joe Paton  wrote:

> Hello John,
>
> When you start replaying a file, the default state of the ring, is 12
> o'clock is volume up, 6 o;'clock is volume down.  9 and 3, are back and
> forward through the files on the recorder.
>
> While playing a file, press the enter key, the key in the middle of the
> ring, once, then the up and down positions on the dial act as increase
> speed 12 o'clock, decrease speed 6 o'clock.  Pressint the enter after
> this, takes you back to the default action which is volume up and down.
> If you do nothing, having made a playback speed change, the control
> defaults back to volume.  What I don't know, is how to get playback back
> to normal, apart from using my ears.  I suspect that if the recorder is
> turned off, then it reverts back to standard playback speed.
>
> I think there about 23 or 24 steps from slowest to fastest speed.
>
> Hope this helps.
> On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 10:32:38 -0500
> "JOHN RIEHL"  wrote:
>
> > Hi. I listened to Neil Ewers' excellent podcast on the Sony LS-14
> recorder. I'm thinking of getting the recorder but I have one question. Is
> there a way of varying the playback speed? I often record meetings to take
> minutes and I'd like to speed up playback. I didn't hear anything about
> that in Neil's podcast. Thanks. John
> >
>
> Joe Paton
> telephone: 01702 543624
> Mobile: 0 7 9 6 7 3 8 2 9 6 4
>  web site: http://www.apart.org
>
>
>
>

Re: Question about LS-14 digital recorder

[Joe Paton]

Hello John,

When you start replaying a file, the default state of the ring, is 12
o'clock is volume up, 6 o;'clock is volume down.  9 and 3, are back and
forward through the files on the recorder.

While playing a file, press the enter key, the key in the middle of the
ring, once, then the up and down positions on the dial act as increase
speed 12 o'clock, decrease speed 6 o'clock.  Pressint the enter after
this, takes you back to the default action which is volume up and down.
If you do nothing, having made a playback speed change, the control
defaults back to volume.  What I don't know, is how to get playback back
to normal, apart from using my ears.  I suspect that if the recorder is
turned off, then it reverts back to standard playback speed.

I think there about 23 or 24 steps from slowest to fastest speed.

Hope this helps.
On Sun, 12 Nov 2017 10:32:38 -0500
"JOHN RIEHL"  wrote:

> Hi. I listened to Neil Ewers' excellent podcast on the Sony LS-14 recorder. 
> I'm thinking of getting the recorder but I have one question. Is there a way 
> of varying the playback speed? I often record meetings to take minutes and 
> I'd like to speed up playback. I didn't hear anything about that in Neil's 
> podcast. Thanks. John 
> 

Joe Paton
telephone: 01702 543624
Mobile: 0 7 9 6 7 3 8 2 9 6 4
 web site: http://www.apart.org

RE: Question about LS-14 digital recorder

[Dean Martineau]

One can often find Book Port Plus or Plextalk Pocket units used in good 
condition.  this may make their price more equal to the one you're 
contemplating; I don't know how much that one costs.  The advantage of these 
blindness-specific devices is that you can easily set bookmarks while 
recording, so if an item you know you're going to want to put in the minutes 
occurs you can silently hit the bookmark key during recording and easily get 
back to it later.  You can also of course change the playback speed.  

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 12:05 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Subject: RE: Question about LS-14 digital recorder

Hi, Andy. I appreciate the help. What I actually want to do is record a meeting 
then go through it and take minutes. It's not feasible to do this by 
manipulating a file on a computer. I have used other Olympus digital recorders 
that  do let you vary the speed of the recording using the recording. 

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 12:01 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question about LS-14 digital recorder

Hi John.

Like another member suggested yesterday, most of these recorders record a file 
for you and that's all.

What you do with that file is up to you.

You may wish to make it quieter, slower, faster , louder or add some thing like 
a small echo or you may simply wish to maximise all the tracks to be the same 
volume, etc.


You achieve these things by using something like Goldwave.

I do this kind of stuff all the time and as recently as Friday night of last 
week I recorded a 45 singer choir onto such a recorder and came home with my 
digital recording.


But then the technical work really started

I had to load it into Goldwave and make some of the improvements that I listed 
above.

I ended up with a high quality recording that you simply cannot get on a stand 
alone hand-held digital recorder.
Once on the computer I was also able to burn my work onto a CD for the group, 
which is to be used in a television advertisement.

I could not do this without some experience of digital editing on a computer.

So if this is what you want to do, then that is the way to do it.

Hope this helps.

Andy.


- Original Message -
From: "JOHN RIEHL" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 3:32 PM
Subject: Question about LS-14 digital recorder


Hi. I listened to Neil Ewers' excellent podcast on the Sony LS-14 recorder. 
I'm thinking of getting the recorder but I have one question. Is there a way 
of varying the playback speed? I often record meetings to take minutes and 
I'd like to speed up playback. I didn't hear anything about that in Neil's 
podcast. Thanks. John

RE: Question about LS-14 digital recorder

[JOHN RIEHL]

Hi, Andy. I appreciate the help. What I actually want to do is record a meeting 
then go through it and take minutes. It's not feasible to do this by 
manipulating a file on a computer. I have used other Olympus digital recorders 
that  do let you vary the speed of the recording using the recording. 

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 12:01 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question about LS-14 digital recorder

Hi John.

Like another member suggested yesterday, most of these recorders record a file 
for you and that's all.

What you do with that file is up to you.

You may wish to make it quieter, slower, faster , louder or add some thing like 
a small echo or you may simply wish to maximise all the tracks to be the same 
volume, etc.


You achieve these things by using something like Goldwave.

I do this kind of stuff all the time and as recently as Friday night of last 
week I recorded a 45 singer choir onto such a recorder and came home with my 
digital recording.


But then the technical work really started

I had to load it into Goldwave and make some of the improvements that I listed 
above.

I ended up with a high quality recording that you simply cannot get on a stand 
alone hand-held digital recorder.
Once on the computer I was also able to burn my work onto a CD for the group, 
which is to be used in a television advertisement.

I could not do this without some experience of digital editing on a computer.

So if this is what you want to do, then that is the way to do it.

Hope this helps.

Andy.


- Original Message -
From: "JOHN RIEHL" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 3:32 PM
Subject: Question about LS-14 digital recorder


Hi. I listened to Neil Ewers' excellent podcast on the Sony LS-14 recorder. 
I'm thinking of getting the recorder but I have one question. Is there a way 
of varying the playback speed? I often record meetings to take minutes and 
I'd like to speed up playback. I didn't hear anything about that in Neil's 
podcast. Thanks. John

Re: Question about LS-14 digital recorder

[Andy]

Hi John.

Like another member suggested yesterday, most of these recorders record a 
file for you and that's all.


What you do with that file is up to you.

You may wish to make it quieter, slower, faster , louder or add some thing 
like a small echo or you may simply wish to maximise all the tracks to be 
the same volume, etc.



You achieve these things by using something like Goldwave.

I do this kind of stuff all the time and as recently as Friday night of last 
week I recorded a 45 singer choir onto such a recorder and came home with my 
digital recording.



But then the technical work really started

I had to load it into Goldwave and make some of the improvements that I 
listed above.


I ended up with a high quality recording that you simply cannot get on a 
stand alone hand-held digital recorder.
Once on the computer I was also able to burn my work onto a CD for the 
group, which is to be used in a television advertisement.


I could not do this without some experience of digital editing on a 
computer.


So if this is what you want to do, then that is the way to do it.

Hope this helps.

Andy.


- Original Message - 
From: "JOHN RIEHL" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 3:32 PM
Subject: Question about LS-14 digital recorder


Hi. I listened to Neil Ewers' excellent podcast on the Sony LS-14 recorder. 
I'm thinking of getting the recorder but I have one question. Is there a way 
of varying the playback speed? I often record meetings to take minutes and 
I'd like to speed up playback. I didn't hear anything about that in Neil's 
podcast. Thanks. John

Question about LS-14 digital recorder

[JOHN RIEHL]

Hi. I listened to Neil Ewers' excellent podcast on the Sony LS-14 recorder. I'm 
thinking of getting the recorder but I have one question. Is there a way of 
varying the playback speed? I often record meetings to take minutes and I'd 
like to speed up playback. I didn't hear anything about that in Neil's podcast. 
Thanks. John 

Re: Tecsun PL660

[tim cumings]

dane, here’s my question. Does Texan Austria have a similar document for the 
880 that they have for the 660?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 11, 2017, at 1:46 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> Well the manual is accessible but whether you’ll be able to follow it or not 
> is a different story .
> 
> 
> **
> “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put 
> in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12 Nov 2017, at 2:27 am, tim cumings  wrote:
>> 
>> hi, Dane. Do you know if there is an accessible manual for the 880?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 10, 2017, at 6:36 PM, Dane Trethowan  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> If I recall correctly there is a list member who is looking for information 
>>> on buttons and controls for his Tecsun PL-660 radio.
>>> A document has been released by Tecsun Radio Australia to aid Blind users 
>>> of this radio and I link to it thus.
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/2aq8zbpz2x7wkgm/PL660-tips-and-tricks-for-a-blind-user.pdf?dl=0
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> **
>>> “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you 
>>> put in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 

Re: Tecsun PL660

[Dane Trethowan]

Well the manual is accessible but whether you’ll be able to follow it or not is 
a different story .


**
“For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put in 
the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”




> On 12 Nov 2017, at 2:27 am, tim cumings  wrote:
> 
> hi, Dane. Do you know if there is an accessible manual for the 880?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 10, 2017, at 6:36 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> If I recall correctly there is a list member who is looking for information 
>> on buttons and controls for his Tecsun PL-660 radio.
>> A document has been released by Tecsun Radio Australia to aid Blind users of 
>> this radio and I link to it thus.
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/2aq8zbpz2x7wkgm/PL660-tips-and-tricks-for-a-blind-user.pdf?dl=0
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> **
>> “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put 
>> in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

Re: Tecsun PL660

[tim cumings]

hi, Dane. Do you know if there is an accessible manual for the 880?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 10, 2017, at 6:36 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> If I recall correctly there is a list member who is looking for information 
> on buttons and controls for his Tecsun PL-660 radio.
> A document has been released by Tecsun Radio Australia to aid Blind users of 
> this radio and I link to it thus.
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/2aq8zbpz2x7wkgm/PL660-tips-and-tricks-for-a-blind-user.pdf?dl=0
>  
> 
> 
> 
> **
> “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put 
> in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”
> 
> 
> 
> 

Tecsun PL660

[Dane Trethowan]

Hi!
If I recall correctly there is a list member who is looking for information on 
buttons and controls for his Tecsun PL-660 radio.
A document has been released by Tecsun Radio Australia to aid Blind users of 
this radio and I link to it thus.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2aq8zbpz2x7wkgm/PL660-tips-and-tricks-for-a-blind-user.pdf?dl=0
 



**
“For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put in 
the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”

RE: accessible digital recorder with editing

[Steve Jacobson]

If this has been covered, I apologize in advance.  I know the Zoom makes very 
nice recordings at a great price, and I also have seen blind people using them 
effectively.  If price is not a primary consideration, do any of the more 
accessible recorders make recordings that are as high in quality?  In other 
words, what makes it worth giving up more accessible menus?

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 11:13 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: accessible digital recorder with editing

No, the H1 doesn't have a Pre-record buffer but i'm sure some of the 
other Zoom models do.

The H1 for waht it is presents a very basic audio recorder designed to 
do a job and do it very well, record audio at a very bargain basement 
price though there's nothing bargain basement about the recordings 
theZoom H1 makes.



On 11/10/2017 11:43 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
> I could be wrong but I believe the H1 has pre record too. I'll have to 
> re listen to Neal's podcast. By the way for the person who started 
> this thread define accessable. These recorders are cirtainly usable as 
> Neal and Dain and others use them. But you must be able to deal with 
> remembering menus remembering where you are at what time, and deal 
> with the fact that there's no sound period at all. I just bring this 
> up cause I sometimes turn off the beeps on my LS-14 i almost said 100. 
> I wish I had a 100. But anyways I turn off the beeps on the 14 and I 
> sometimes can get thrown off by not hearing anything. I guess in a 
> sence I've been spoiled by using stuff like a Plextalk most of the 
> time. So yeah let's not forget what 1 person calls accessible may not 
> be to someone else.
>
>
> On 11/9/2017 3:23 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> The whole point of these digital recorders is to “Record” audio and 
>> then use with a computer afterwards if necessary for editing, 
>> organisation, tweaking of Audio characteristics and so on.
>> All the recorders I have - Zoom H1, Sony PCM-d50 and Olympus DM4 - 
>> have capabilities to create new files on the fly or mark positions 
>> within the file at the push of a button.
>> As far as I know the PCM-d50 is the only recorder I own with the 
>> “Pre-Record Buffer” which is dead handy when you’re making live 
>> recordings, never miss a thing!
>> Good luck if you can find a Sony PCM-d50 . And if you do find 
>> one then you’ve certainly struck gold!
>>
>>
>> **
>> “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s 
>> you put in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 9 Nov 2017, at 11:49 pm, Fanus  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Dane & list
>>> Does one get an accessible digital recorder with editing 
>>> capabilities. A friend of mine is a member of a choir. The choir 
>>> master records the songs for her but everytime she makes a mistake 
>>> she must start from scratch resulting in the creation of a new 
>>> file.  They are looking for a recorder which allows for stopping the 
>>> recording and rewind to just before the error and then resume. Does 
>>> one get such a recorder? I suppose it could be handy for lawyers and 
>>> doctors.
>>> Regards
>>> Fanus
>
>
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Re: olympus ls14

[andy]

Hi again Joe.

Here is the Sendspace download link for Neil Ewars's podcast on the Olympus 
14


Download link:

https://www.sendspace.com/file/c3lt88

Very best wishes.

Andy.

From Scotland with Love.
- Original Message - 
From: "andy" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: olympus ls14



Hi Joe.

Do you use Sendspace?

I've got Neil Ewars podcasts on most of these devices and will upload the 
Olympus one right now to Sendspace.


Andy.
- Original Message - 
From: "Joe Paton" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 12:15 PM
Subject: olympus ls14



Hi,

Does anybody know the where abouts of a podcast on the ls14?  I have the
pdf manual, but would welcome some usefull instructions and tips.

Thank you.
On Fri, 10 Nov 2017 16:13:09 +1100
Dane Trethowan  wrote:

No, the H1 doesn't have a Pre-record buffer but i'm sure some of the 
other Zoom models do.


The H1 for waht it is presents a very basic audio recorder designed to 
do a job and do it very well, record audio at a very bargain basement 
price though there's nothing bargain basement about the recordings 
theZoom H1 makes.




On 11/10/2017 11:43 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
> I could be wrong but I believe the H1 has pre record too. I'll have to 
>  > re listen to Neal's podcast. By the way for the person who started > 
> this thread define accessable. These recorders are cirtainly usable as 
>  > Neal and Dain and others use them. But you must be able to deal with 
>  > remembering menus remembering where you are at what time, and deal > 
> with the fact that there's no sound period at all. I just bring this > 
> up cause I sometimes turn off the beeps on my LS-14 i almost said 100. 
>  > I wish I had a 100. But anyways I turn off the beeps on the 14 and I 
>  > sometimes can get thrown off by not hearing anything. I guess in a > 
> sence I've been spoiled by using stuff like a Plextalk most of the > 
> time. So yeah let's not forget what 1 person calls accessible may not 
>  > be to someone else.

>
>
> On 11/9/2017 3:23 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> The whole point of these digital recorders is to “Record” audio and 
>>  >> then use with a computer afterwards if necessary for editing, >> 
>> organisation, tweaking of Audio characteristics and so on.
>> All the recorders I have - Zoom H1, Sony PCM-d50 and Olympus DM4 - >> 
>> have capabilities to create new files on the fly or mark positions >> 
>> within the file at the push of a button.
>> As far as I know the PCM-d50 is the only recorder I own with the >> 
>> “Pre-Record Buffer” which is dead handy when you’re making live >> 
>> recordings, never miss a thing!
>> Good luck if you can find a Sony PCM-d50 . And if you do find 
>>  >> one then you’ve certainly struck gold!

>>
>>
>> **
>> “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s 
>>  >> you put in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”

>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 9 Nov 2017, at 11:49 pm, Fanus  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Dane & list
>>> Does one get an accessible digital recorder with editing >>> 
>>> capabilities. A friend of mine is a member of a choir. The choir >>> 
>>> master records the songs for her but everytime she makes a mistake 
>>>  >>> she must start from scratch resulting in the creation of a new 
>>>  >>> file. They are looking for a recorder which allows for stopping 
>>> the >>> recording and rewind to just before the error and then 
>>> resume. Does >>> one get such a recorder? I suppose it could be 
>>> handy for lawyers and >>> doctors.

>>> Regards
>>> Fanus
>
>
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
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>

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**



Joe Paton
telephone: 01702 543624
Mobile: 0 7 9 6 7 3 8 2 9 6 4
web site: http://www.apart.org

Re: olympus ls14

[andy]

Hi Joe.

Do you use Sendspace?

I've got Neil Ewars podcasts on most of these devices and will upload the 
Olympus one right now to Sendspace.


Andy.
- Original Message - 
From: "Joe Paton" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 12:15 PM
Subject: olympus ls14



Hi,

Does anybody know the where abouts of a podcast on the ls14?  I have the
pdf manual, but would welcome some usefull instructions and tips.

Thank you.
On Fri, 10 Nov 2017 16:13:09 +1100
Dane Trethowan  wrote:

No, the H1 doesn't have a Pre-record buffer but i'm sure some of the 
other Zoom models do.


The H1 for waht it is presents a very basic audio recorder designed to do 
a job and do it very well, record audio at a very bargain basement price 
though there's nothing bargain basement about the recordings theZoom H1 
makes.




On 11/10/2017 11:43 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
> I could be wrong but I believe the H1 has pre record too. I'll have to 
>  > re listen to Neal's podcast. By the way for the person who started > 
> this thread define accessable. These recorders are cirtainly usable as 
>  > Neal and Dain and others use them. But you must be able to deal with 
>  > remembering menus remembering where you are at what time, and deal > 
> with the fact that there's no sound period at all. I just bring this > 
> up cause I sometimes turn off the beeps on my LS-14 i almost said 100. 
>  > I wish I had a 100. But anyways I turn off the beeps on the 14 and I 
>  > sometimes can get thrown off by not hearing anything. I guess in a > 
> sence I've been spoiled by using stuff like a Plextalk most of the > 
> time. So yeah let's not forget what 1 person calls accessible may not > 
> be to someone else.

>
>
> On 11/9/2017 3:23 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> The whole point of these digital recorders is to “Record” audio and >> 
>> then use with a computer afterwards if necessary for editing, >> 
>> organisation, tweaking of Audio characteristics and so on.
>> All the recorders I have - Zoom H1, Sony PCM-d50 and Olympus DM4 - >> 
>> have capabilities to create new files on the fly or mark positions >> 
>> within the file at the push of a button.
>> As far as I know the PCM-d50 is the only recorder I own with the >> 
>> “Pre-Record Buffer” which is dead handy when you’re making live >> 
>> recordings, never miss a thing!
>> Good luck if you can find a Sony PCM-d50 . And if you do find 
>>  >> one then you’ve certainly struck gold!

>>
>>
>> **
>> “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s 
>>  >> you put in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”

>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 9 Nov 2017, at 11:49 pm, Fanus  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Dane & list
>>> Does one get an accessible digital recorder with editing >>> 
>>> capabilities. A friend of mine is a member of a choir. The choir >>> 
>>> master records the songs for her but everytime she makes a mistake 
>>>  >>> she must start from scratch resulting in the creation of a new 
>>>  >>> file. They are looking for a recorder which allows for stopping 
>>> the >>> recording and rewind to just before the error and then 
>>> resume. Does >>> one get such a recorder? I suppose it could be handy 
>>> for lawyers and >>> doctors.

>>> Regards
>>> Fanus
>
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olympus ls14

[Joe Paton]

Hi,

Does anybody know the where abouts of a podcast on the ls14?  I have the
pdf manual, but would welcome some usefull instructions and tips.

Thank you.
On Fri, 10 Nov 2017 16:13:09 +1100
Dane Trethowan  wrote:

> No, the H1 doesn't have a Pre-record buffer but i'm sure some of the other 
> Zoom models do.
> 
> The H1 for waht it is presents a very basic audio recorder designed to do a 
> job and do it very well, record audio at a very bargain basement price though 
> there's nothing bargain basement about the recordings theZoom H1 makes.
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/10/2017 11:43 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
> > I could be wrong but I believe the H1 has pre record too. I'll have to > re 
> > listen to Neal's podcast. By the way for the person who started > this 
> > thread define accessable. These recorders are cirtainly usable as > Neal 
> > and Dain and others use them. But you must be able to deal with > 
> > remembering menus remembering where you are at what time, and deal > with 
> > the fact that there's no sound period at all. I just bring this > up cause 
> > I sometimes turn off the beeps on my LS-14 i almost said 100. > I wish I 
> > had a 100. But anyways I turn off the beeps on the 14 and I > sometimes can 
> > get thrown off by not hearing anything. I guess in a > sence I've been 
> > spoiled by using stuff like a Plextalk most of the > time. So yeah let's 
> > not forget what 1 person calls accessible may not > be to someone else.
> >
> >
> > On 11/9/2017 3:23 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> >> The whole point of these digital recorders is to “Record” audio and >> 
> >> then use with a computer afterwards if necessary for editing, >> 
> >> organisation, tweaking of Audio characteristics and so on.
> >> All the recorders I have - Zoom H1, Sony PCM-d50 and Olympus DM4 - >> have 
> >> capabilities to create new files on the fly or mark positions >> within 
> >> the file at the push of a button.
> >> As far as I know the PCM-d50 is the only recorder I own with the >> 
> >> “Pre-Record Buffer” which is dead handy when you’re making live >> 
> >> recordings, never miss a thing!
> >> Good luck if you can find a Sony PCM-d50 . And if you do find >> 
> >> one then you’ve certainly struck gold!
> >>
> >>
> >> **
> >> “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s >> 
> >> you put in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 9 Nov 2017, at 11:49 pm, Fanus  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello Dane & list
> >>> Does one get an accessible digital recorder with editing >>> 
> >>> capabilities. A friend of mine is a member of a choir. The choir >>> 
> >>> master records the songs for her but everytime she makes a mistake >>> 
> >>> she must start from scratch resulting in the creation of a new >>> file.  
> >>> They are looking for a recorder which allows for stopping the >>> 
> >>> recording and rewind to just before the error and then resume. Does >>> 
> >>> one get such a recorder? I suppose it could be handy for lawyers and >>> 
> >>> doctors.
> >>> Regards
> >>> Fanus
> >
> >
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Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Dane Trethowan]

We'll agree to disagree then.

Humanware only wants to support a part of the market they know they can 
extract money from, those Humanware can preach to and easily convince 
that Humanware are the only solution on Planet Earth, a bit like the 
Church of Scientology.




On 11/10/2017 7:57 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

More to go wrong or more to enable more people to use the device.  I
don't own one, but I still know plenty of blind folks who do much
better with buttons than with touch; were that not true, HumanWare
wouldn't make this stuff.

Mary




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Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Dane Trethowan]

Apologies as I didn’t know you had an Amazon Echo but that’s as far as 
the apology goes.
Remembering skills? I have skills on my Amazon Echo and yes, its 
probably not used as much as yours would be given the Amazon echo is not 
fully supported in Australia but I do indeed know what skills I have on 
my system and - if I’m in any doubt - then I can look up and manage what 
I have installed on the Amazon Echo web page.
I don’t buy the argument about small company’s and lack of resources 
these days, I’ve been using hearing instruments for over 30 years and - 
over that time - the price has changed radically along with the 
technology which suggests to me that - unlike Humanware - small 
company’s in the hearing instruments market - once again a very small 
and specialist market - want to put their clients - those who have 
hearing difficulty’s and need to use their products - first.
In recent years of course we’ve seen a huge shift in the hearing 
instruments market to using the instrument as such as a secondary device 
and something more substantial - Mobile phone - as the primary 
processing device which in tern has both brought more power to the 
instrument and brought the price down.
I’m not suggesting for one moment that the latter point of using two 
devices be used in the case of Humanware as one “Stand-Alone” device is 
what’s required here however Humanware are not acknowleding changing 
technology, not keeping up with the mainstream.

Accessibility should be all and not just for a few.


On 10 Nov 2017, at 8:48 am, Mary Otten > wrote:


Yes, I have an Amazon echo. It’s of limited utility in my opinion, 
partly because although there are so many skills, finding them and 
then remembering what you have is well, not easy. But I do have one. 
Now why would I want to repeat that whole thing with a device from 
humanware, which, given the small market, would probably cost at least 
twice or three times as much? Who is argument is ridiculous here? Add 
voice input to something for sure. But for a small company like 
humanware to make a single use voice activated speaker would be the 
height of stupid.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 9, 2017, at 1:27 PM, Dane Trethowan > wrote:


That argument is just ridiculous, have you ever used an Amazon Echo 
or a Google home? you can only interact with those devices the one 
way, with your voice!


Obviously you use an App or a Web Page to set these devices up but 
once that's done? Well you either talk and use the device or you fall 
silent and the device drops dead too.





On 11/10/2017 7:59 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
I never said that voice input wouldn't be good, just that having it as
the sole method would not be a good idea; not at all practical.




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Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Dane Trethowan]

That argument is just ridiculous, have you ever used an Amazon Echo or a 
Google home? you can only interact with those devices the one way, with 
your voice!


Obviously you use an App or a Web Page to set these devices up but once 
that's done? Well you either talk and use the device or you fall silent 
and the device drops dead too.




On 11/10/2017 7:59 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

I never said that voice input wouldn't be good, just that having it as
the sole method would not be a good idea; not at all practical.




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SV: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Brian Olesen]

Hi Anders,
Oh sorry to hear that. I never had issues with mine. But you're right that such 
a device should contain up-up to date hardware, and downloading books is a pain 
too.

Brian 

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Anders Holmberg
Sendt: 9. november 2017 23:15
Til: PC Audio Discussion List 
Emne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

Hi!
Yes you’re right Brian but they should have put better hardware into the stream.
I have had my for repair once and i think it needs to go on repair again.
/A

> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 22:14 skrev Brian Olesen :
> 
> Hey Mary,
> You are so perfectly right, and to tell you the truth it's not only 
> blind people who feels this way.
> But fascion is playing many of it's tricks on people you know.
> Also a dedicated device for special needs is wonderful.
> For example with a Victor you don't really need to care about power 
> loss or battery drainage.
> Charge it once every second day, and you can read on and on as long as 
> you like.
> Also manipulating the audio is a time consuming process. Lets say you 
> need to go to a certain page in a daisy book with touch, or find a special 
> fraze.
> This is technically speaking possible, but will always and I mean 
> always take much longer with touch then with regular keys.
> If you're a student and is planning to study for 5 years these seconds 
> becoming minutes becoming hours, becoming days, actually counts 
> against the biological human clock, and would be a great unnecessary 
> waist of precious time.
> Yes off course I do own the app Voice Dream Reader, and loves it, but 
> believe me. I use my Stream 95 % of the time instead.
> I could use my nice Hims U2, and honestly don't know why I don't. 
> Maybe because of it's size. But this little handy pocket device feels 
> more like reading a real book then using apps for all purposes in 
> life. :-)
> 
> Best regards
> Brian
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Mary 
> Otten
> Sendt: 9. november 2017 21:58
> Til: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Emne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trekagainst the biological 
> human clock.
> 
> More to go wrong or more to enable more people to use the device.  I 
> don't own one, but I still know plenty of blind folks who do much 
> better with buttons than with touch; were thaIf you're a student and 
> is planning to study for 5 years these seconds being minutes becoming 
> hours becoming days actually count t not true, HumanWare wouldn't make this 
> stuff.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> 
> 

SV: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Brian Olesen]

Hi,
Ah let's get this strate.
aptX is a faster protocol especially used by gamers to get lower latency when 
playing with Bluetooth headphones.

The aptX audio codec is available for consumer and automotive wireless audio 
applications, notably the real-time streaming of lossy stereo audio over the 
Bluetooth A2DP connection/pairing between a "source" device (such as a 
smartphone, tablet or laptop) and a "sink" accessory (namely a Bluetooth stereo 
speaker, headset or headphones). aptX technology must be incorporated in both 
transmitter and receiver to derive the sonic benefits of aptX audio coding over 
the default sub-band coding (SBC) mandated by the Bluetooth standard. Consumer 
electronics products bearing the CSR aptX logo are certified for 
interoperability with other Bluetooth audio products belonging to the aptX 
ecosystem.
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Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Anders Holmberg
Sendt: 9. november 2017 22:54
Til: PC Audio Discussion List 
Emne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

Hi!
Its an uncompressed format so the sound quality is better.
/A

> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 15:25 skrev Peter Scanlon :
> 
> What is aptx why is that better than what ever other Blue Tooth?
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders 
> Holmberg
> Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 11:29 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
> 
> Hi!
> I wonder if the trek has bluetooth with aptx.
> I don’t think so.
> /A
> 
>> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:05 skrev Dane Trethowan :
>> 
>> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so 
>> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion.
>> 
>> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years.
>> 
>> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other 
>> similar devices.
>> 
>> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated 
>> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff.
>> 
>> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what 
>> you will of this.
>> 
>> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> **
>> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
>> **
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: accessible digital recorder with editing

[Dane Trethowan]

No, the H1 doesn't have a Pre-record buffer but i'm sure some of the 
other Zoom models do.


The H1 for waht it is presents a very basic audio recorder designed to 
do a job and do it very well, record audio at a very bargain basement 
price though there's nothing bargain basement about the recordings 
theZoom H1 makes.




On 11/10/2017 11:43 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
I could be wrong but I believe the H1 has pre record too. I'll have to 
re listen to Neal's podcast. By the way for the person who started 
this thread define accessable. These recorders are cirtainly usable as 
Neal and Dain and others use them. But you must be able to deal with 
remembering menus remembering where you are at what time, and deal 
with the fact that there's no sound period at all. I just bring this 
up cause I sometimes turn off the beeps on my LS-14 i almost said 100. 
I wish I had a 100. But anyways I turn off the beeps on the 14 and I 
sometimes can get thrown off by not hearing anything. I guess in a 
sence I've been spoiled by using stuff like a Plextalk most of the 
time. So yeah let's not forget what 1 person calls accessible may not 
be to someone else.



On 11/9/2017 3:23 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The whole point of these digital recorders is to “Record” audio and 
then use with a computer afterwards if necessary for editing, 
organisation, tweaking of Audio characteristics and so on.
All the recorders I have - Zoom H1, Sony PCM-d50 and Olympus DM4 - 
have capabilities to create new files on the fly or mark positions 
within the file at the push of a button.
As far as I know the PCM-d50 is the only recorder I own with the 
“Pre-Record Buffer” which is dead handy when you’re making live 
recordings, never miss a thing!
Good luck if you can find a Sony PCM-d50 . And if you do find 
one then you’ve certainly struck gold!



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you put in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”






On 9 Nov 2017, at 11:49 pm, Fanus  wrote:

Hello Dane & list
Does one get an accessible digital recorder with editing 
capabilities. A friend of mine is a member of a choir. The choir 
master records the songs for her but everytime she makes a mistake 
she must start from scratch resulting in the creation of a new 
file.  They are looking for a recorder which allows for stopping the 
recording and rewind to just before the error and then resume. Does 
one get such a recorder? I suppose it could be handy for lawyers and 
doctors.

Regards
Fanus



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Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes you’re right Brian but they should have put better hardware into the stream.
I have had my for repair once and i think it needs to go on repair again.
/A

> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 22:14 skrev Brian Olesen :
> 
> Hey Mary,
> You are so perfectly right, and to tell you the truth it's not only blind
> people who feels this way.
> But fascion is playing many of it's tricks on people you know.
> Also a dedicated device for special needs is wonderful.
> For example with a Victor you don't really need to care about power loss or
> battery drainage.
> Charge it once every second day, and you can read on and on as long as you
> like.
> Also manipulating the audio is a time consuming process. Lets say you need
> to go to a certain page in a daisy book with touch, or find a special fraze.
> This is technically speaking possible, but will always and I mean always
> take much longer with touch then with regular keys.
> If you're a student and is planning to study for 5 years these seconds
> becoming minutes becoming hours, becoming days, actually counts against the
> biological human clock, and would be a great unnecessary waist of precious
> time.
> Yes off course I do own the app Voice Dream Reader, and loves it, but
> believe me. I use my Stream 95 % of the time instead.
> I could use my nice Hims U2, and honestly don't know why I don't. Maybe
> because of it's size. But this little handy pocket device feels more like
> reading a real book then using apps for all purposes in life. :-)
> 
> Best regards
> Brian
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Mary Otten
> Sendt: 9. november 2017 21:58
> Til: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Emne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trekagainst the biological human
> clock.
> 
> More to go wrong or more to enable more people to use the device.  I don't
> own one, but I still know plenty of blind folks who do much better with
> buttons than with touch; were thaIf you're a student and is planning to
> study for 5 years these seconds being minutes becoming hours becoming days
> actually count t not true, HumanWare wouldn't make this stuff.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Dane Trethowan]

Well enjoy wasting your time then.


> On 10 Nov 2017, at 9:09 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:
> 
> Good point you make about those seconds wasting time. 
> Today, so much time can be wasted deleting crap emails or social media
> stuff, that wastes time in business or study.
> Especially as it takes us longer to identify a not wanted message than a
> sighted person.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian
> Olesen
> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 8:14 AM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
> Subject: SV: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
> 
> Hey Mary,
> You are so perfectly right, and to tell you the truth it's not only blind
> people who feels this way.
> But fascion is playing many of it's tricks on people you know.
> Also a dedicated device for special needs is wonderful.
> For example with a Victor you don't really need to care about power loss or
> battery drainage.
> Charge it once every second day, and you can read on and on as long as you
> like.
> Also manipulating the audio is a time consuming process. Lets say you need
> to go to a certain page in a daisy book with touch, or find a special fraze.
> This is technically speaking possible, but will always and I mean always
> take much longer with touch then with regular keys.
> If you're a student and is planning to study for 5 years these seconds
> becoming minutes becoming hours, becoming days, actually counts against the
> biological human clock, and would be a great unnecessary waist of precious
> time.
> Yes off course I do own the app Voice Dream Reader, and loves it, but
> believe me. I use my Stream 95 % of the time instead.
> I could use my nice Hims U2, and honestly don't know why I don't. Maybe
> because of it's size. But this little handy pocket device feels more like
> reading a real book then using apps for all purposes in life. :-)
> 
> Best regards
> Brian
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Mary Otten
> Sendt: 9. november 2017 21:58
> Til: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Emne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trekagainst the biological human
> clock.
> 
> More to go wrong or more to enable more people to use the device.  I don't
> own one, but I still know plenty of blind folks who do much better with
> buttons than with touch; were thaIf you're a student and is planning to
> study for 5 years these seconds being minutes becoming hours becoming days
> actually count t not true, HumanWare wouldn't make this stuff.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
THanks Eden for letting us know that.
Then there will not be any trek in this house.
I rather use my Nokia 8 or moto g 5 for such purpose or my stream 2 for 
listening to daisy books unless it doesn’t turn of by it self without any 
warning like it use to do for me when i have wifi on.
/A

> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 21:10 skrev Aidan :
> 
> Yes, the button thing is great, but unfortunetly they did not change
> enough hardware. The stream hardware is quite bad, and all they done
> now is to change the procesor and remove the line in jac to make room
> for the gps antenna.
> They are lazy these days, come out with just a few updates once every
> now and then, and then they brag on the fact that they have different
> teams to work on different products wich are suppose to create the
> impression that they have enough people to make it possible to work on
> these things properly.
> They also now will include an fm radio, wich is great,  but then
> stream users is missing out, and its now unfairely expected that if
> you don't want gps you should buy this thing to get blootooth, and the
> fm radio. This probibly means that the treck will get more updates and
> the other stream little or nothing and then they will suddenly
> discontinue the stream for a new one later. They did the same before
> with the older stream. After they discontinued it, they did not
> provide updates for it to bring it inline with the new model, such as
> to add the consolidate notes and repeat one track only features on the
> notes and music bookshelfs respectively. All about money and they
> don't care.
> Its nice that this unit will have maps onboard, wich means no data
> drain, but so little hardware change is unexceptible.
> 
> On 09/11/2017, Peter Scanlon  wrote:
>> The good thing about Victor is it has real buttons. No need for voice
>> command.
>> I agree doing voice command in public can be a problem.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
>> Otten
>> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 1:33 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
>> 
>> VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I
>> really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or
>> whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t
>> the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let
>> them use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing
>> things on the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More
>> often than not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what
>> they found, or you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star
>> Trek days, so the fact that human where hasn’t come out with something
>> actually like a home or an echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came
>> out with one of the speaker things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want
>> to buy a specialized speaker made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are
>> after all voice activated. What possible value add it could there be? That’s
>> why I say having some kind of voice deal that would actually let you use
>> your device with voice under the right circumstances could be good.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowan 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so
>>> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion.
>>> 
>>> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for
>>> years.
>>> 
>>> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other
>>> similar devices.
>>> 
>>> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated
>>> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of
>>> stuff.
>>> 
>>> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make
>>> what you will of this.
>>> 
>>> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> **
>>> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
>>> **
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 

RE: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Peter Scanlon]

Good point you make about those seconds wasting time. 
Today, so much time can be wasted deleting crap emails or social media
stuff, that wastes time in business or study.
Especially as it takes us longer to identify a not wanted message than a
sighted person.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian
Olesen
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 8:14 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Subject: SV: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

Hey Mary,
You are so perfectly right, and to tell you the truth it's not only blind
people who feels this way.
But fascion is playing many of it's tricks on people you know.
Also a dedicated device for special needs is wonderful.
For example with a Victor you don't really need to care about power loss or
battery drainage.
Charge it once every second day, and you can read on and on as long as you
like.
Also manipulating the audio is a time consuming process. Lets say you need
to go to a certain page in a daisy book with touch, or find a special fraze.
This is technically speaking possible, but will always and I mean always
take much longer with touch then with regular keys.
If you're a student and is planning to study for 5 years these seconds
becoming minutes becoming hours, becoming days, actually counts against the
biological human clock, and would be a great unnecessary waist of precious
time.
Yes off course I do own the app Voice Dream Reader, and loves it, but
believe me. I use my Stream 95 % of the time instead.
I could use my nice Hims U2, and honestly don't know why I don't. Maybe
because of it's size. But this little handy pocket device feels more like
reading a real book then using apps for all purposes in life. :-)

Best regards
Brian

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Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Mary Otten
Sendt: 9. november 2017 21:58
Til: PC Audio Discussion List 
Emne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trekagainst the biological human
clock.

More to go wrong or more to enable more people to use the device.  I don't
own one, but I still know plenty of blind folks who do much better with
buttons than with touch; were thaIf you're a student and is planning to
study for 5 years these seconds being minutes becoming hours becoming days
actually count t not true, HumanWare wouldn't make this stuff.

Mary

Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Dane Trethowan]

That’s obviously a personal thing isn’t it? I mean there are plenty of people 
who use Voice commands with their iPhone and Siri, Android phone with Google 
assistant and Goodness only knows how many other GPS and Entertainment devices 
out there.
All new cars sold these days have facilities to accept Voice Commands along 
with Bluetooth speakers etc.


**
“For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put in 
the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”




> On 10 Nov 2017, at 1:33 am, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I 
> really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or 
> whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t 
> the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let 
> them use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing 
> things on the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More 
> often than not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what 
> they found, or you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star Trek 
> days, so the fact that human where hasn’t come out with something actually 
> like a home or an echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came out with 
> one of the speaker things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want to buy a 
> specialized speaker made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are after all 
> voice activated. What possible value add it could there be? That’s why I say 
> having some kind of voice deal that would actually let you use your device 
> with voice under the right circumstances could be good.
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>> 
>> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so 
>> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion.
>> 
>> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years.
>> 
>> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other 
>> similar devices.
>> 
>> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated 
>> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff.
>> 
>> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what 
>> you will of this.
>> 
>> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> **
>> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
>> **
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Dane Trethowan]

Yep it has buttons, more to go wrong.


**
“For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put in 
the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”




> On 10 Nov 2017, at 5:37 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:
> 
> The good thing about Victor is it has real buttons. No need for voice 
> command. 
> I agree doing voice command in public can be a problem. 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 1:33 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
> 
> VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I 
> really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or 
> whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t 
> the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let 
> them use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing 
> things on the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More 
> often than not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what 
> they found, or you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star Trek 
> days, so the fact that human where hasn’t come out with something actually 
> like a home or an echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came out with 
> one of the speaker things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want to buy a 
> specialized speaker made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are after all 
> voice activated. What possible value add it could there be? That’s why I say 
> having some kind of voice deal that would actually let you use your device 
> with voice under the right circumstances could be good.
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>> 
>> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so 
>> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion.
>> 
>> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years.
>> 
>> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other 
>> similar devices.
>> 
>> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated 
>> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff.
>> 
>> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what 
>> you will of this.
>> 
>> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> **
>> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
>> **
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Aidan]

Yes, the button thing is great, but unfortunetly they did not change
enough hardware. The stream hardware is quite bad, and all they done
now is to change the procesor and remove the line in jac to make room
for the gps antenna.
They are lazy these days, come out with just a few updates once every
now and then, and then they brag on the fact that they have different
teams to work on different products wich are suppose to create the
impression that they have enough people to make it possible to work on
these things properly.
They also now will include an fm radio, wich is great,  but then
stream users is missing out, and its now unfairely expected that if
you don't want gps you should buy this thing to get blootooth, and the
fm radio. This probibly means that the treck will get more updates and
the other stream little or nothing and then they will suddenly
discontinue the stream for a new one later. They did the same before
with the older stream. After they discontinued it, they did not
provide updates for it to bring it inline with the new model, such as
to add the consolidate notes and repeat one track only features on the
notes and music bookshelfs respectively. All about money and they
don't care.
Its nice that this unit will have maps onboard, wich means no data
drain, but so little hardware change is unexceptible.

On 09/11/2017, Peter Scanlon  wrote:
> The good thing about Victor is it has real buttons. No need for voice
> command.
> I agree doing voice command in public can be a problem.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
> Otten
> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 1:33 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
>
> VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I
> really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or
> whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t
> the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let
> them use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing
> things on the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More
> often than not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what
> they found, or you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star
> Trek days, so the fact that human where hasn’t come out with something
> actually like a home or an echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came
> out with one of the speaker things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want
> to buy a specialized speaker made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are
> after all voice activated. What possible value add it could there be? That’s
> why I say having some kind of voice deal that would actually let you use
> your device with voice under the right circumstances could be good.
>
> Mary
>
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowan 
>> wrote:
>>
>> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so
>> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion.
>>
>> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for
>> years.
>>
>> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other
>> similar devices.
>>
>> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated
>> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of
>> stuff.
>>
>> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make
>> what you will of this.
>>
>> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
>>
>> --
>>
>> **
>> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
>> **
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

RE: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Peter Scanlon]

The good thing about Victor is it has real buttons. No need for voice command. 
I agree doing voice command in public can be a problem. 


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 1:33 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I 
really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or 
whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t 
the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let them 
use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing things on 
the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More often than 
not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what they found, or 
you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star Trek days, so the 
fact that human where hasn’t come out with something actually like a home or an 
echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came out with one of the speaker 
things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want to buy a specialized speaker 
made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are after all voice activated. What 
possible value add it could there be? That’s why I say having some kind of 
voice deal that would actually let you use your device with voice under the 
right circumstances could be good.

Mary

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so 
> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion.
> 
> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years.
> 
> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other 
> similar devices.
> 
> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated 
> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff.
> 
> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what 
> you will of this.
> 
> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
> 
> -- 
> 
> **
> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
> **
> 
> 

SV: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Brian Olesen]

HI,
AptX is not a format it's a protocol.

Brian

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Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Anders Holmberg
Sendt: 9. november 2017 13:47
Til: PC Audio Discussion List 
Emne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

Hi!
Yes but does it support the aptx format.
I don’t want to spend another bunch of money for a device and be disappointed 
again.
My second gen stream is still alive and kicking but very often crashes even 
though its been on repair and have been reset a bunch of times.
I rather use a stable android phone or Iphone for these purposes if the trek 
shows similar tendences.
/A

> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 13:37 skrev JOHN RIEHL :
> 
> The victor Trekker does have Bluetooth capability. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders 
> Holmberg
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 7:29 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
> 
> Hi!
> I wonder if the trek has bluetooth with aptx.
> I don’t think so.
> /A
> 
>> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:05 skrev Dane Trethowan :
>> 
>> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so 
>> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion.
>> 
>> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years.
>> 
>> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other 
>> similar devices.
>> 
>> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated 
>> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff.
>> 
>> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what 
>> you will of this.
>> 
>> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> **
>> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
>> **
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: software to tag mp3 files?

[Hamit Campos]

Hi. I'm still active. I'm able to call at 4 PM monday. But as soon as 
you let me know what they say I could call them. Thanks.



On 11/8/2017 11:13 AM, John Gurd via Pc-audio wrote:

I've used Tag and Rename for years. It is very rich in features and accessible 
with Jaws. I can't remember how much I paid for it.

http://www.softpointer.com/tr.htm

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 04 November 2017 00:45
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: software to tag mp3 files?

I very much look forward to seeing your tutorials.
In the meantime? I’ll use MP3 Tag Studio to get the job done.


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On 3 Nov 2017, at 6:02 pm, Robert Godridge  wrote:

Well, I just did it once and next time when you press the down arrow
you can select it.
The beauty of mp3tag is if you have a folder of files you want to tag,
hit applications key, then press 3 or go down to the mp3tag option in
your context menue and it'll do the entire directory, then select all
and you're done.
I can help somewhat if you like.


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On 11/3/17, Peter Scanlon  wrote:

It’s the ability to do it with multiple files that is needed.
For me I get confused with the conversion process
Where you need to put in a series of characters such as %artist% -
%album% -
%track% - %title%

P.


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Godridge
Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 5:35 PM
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also if you don't mind doing each file individually you can edit them
in winamp, go to propperties, alt and 3.


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On 11/3/17, Robert Godridge  wrote:

There's a forum. I've googled all my queeries and I've found
explanations for them. If you mean mp3tag.


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On 11/3/17, Peter Scanlon  wrote:

Like Adam, I have found this program difficult. I wish there was a
tutorial.



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https://www.mp3tag.de/
I wouldn't be without this. Goes nicely into the context menue.


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On 11/3/17, Adam Morris  wrote:

Hi all,

Wondering what software people use apart from iTunes to tag mp3 files
that aren't copied from a cd?

I know of someone who is given files made up by a communityradio
station
that need tagging.


I've tried mp3 tag but haven't had much luck.




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Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Mary Otten]

VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I 
really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or 
whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t 
the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let them 
use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing things on 
the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More often than 
not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what they found, or 
you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star Trek days, so the 
fact that human where hasn’t come out with something actually like a home or an 
echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came out with one of the speaker 
things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want to buy a specialized speaker 
made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are after all voice activated. What 
possible value add it could there be? That’s why I say having some kind of 
voice deal that would actually let you use your device with voice under the 
right circumstances could be good.

Mary

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so 
> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion.
> 
> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years.
> 
> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other 
> similar devices.
> 
> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated 
> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff.
> 
> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what 
> you will of this.
> 
> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
> 
> -- 
> 
> **
> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
> **
> 
> 

RE: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Peter Scanlon]

What is aptx why is that better than what ever other Blue Tooth?



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders 
Holmberg
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 11:29 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

Hi!
I wonder if the trek has bluetooth with aptx.
I don’t think so.
/A

> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:05 skrev Dane Trethowan :
> 
> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so 
> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion.
> 
> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years.
> 
> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other 
> similar devices.
> 
> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated 
> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff.
> 
> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what 
> you will of this.
> 
> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
> 
> -- 
> 
> **
> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
> **
> 
>