RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

2017-06-30 Thread Johnny Angel 
Oh that makes perfect sense...

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 2:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

Downloaded software and games. I don't believe that stores recordings.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2017, at 5:46 PM, Johnny Angel <j...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> So why would one expand the memory on one of these fire boxes? Is it 
> primarily to store recordings?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Gary Schindler
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 6:16 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> The only advantage with the fire tv box is that it has a faster 
> processor and you can expand the memory with a micro SD card. No 
> extras for blind people!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Johnny Angel
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 9:30 AM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> Hi again Mary,
> 
> Do you know anything about the Amazon fire tv box that sells for like $90?
> I'm going to do some more research on the box, It offers more than the 
> fire stick like being able to expand the memory to I think 128 gb. I 
> think it is also 4K ready, whereas the fire stick is limited to 1 gb 
> of memory and is only capable of 1K programming. But it is like $50 
> more than the stick, and I don't know if it yields the same joy as the
stick does for a blind user.
> 
> Anyway, if anyone on the list has an Amazon fire tv box, please chime 
> in here to let me and others know if getting the fire box instead of 
> the fire stick offers advantages useful for a blind individual.
> 
> Thanks so much,
> 
> John Chilelli
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:55 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> The screen reader comes on the fire. When you first get it, it will 
> download a better voice than the one that originally starts up. There 
> are instructions how to get it going from the get go on Amazon. I 
> don't have the link right here, but if somebody doesn't come up with 
> it, I will see if I can find it. Also, make sure that once you get 
> your fire up and running, that you make sure the software is 
> up-to-date. So you want to check for updates of course. You don't 
> really need the iPad mini for this. You just need to have a place to plug
the Kindle fire stick directly into the TV.
> That would be an HDMI port available. And of course you have to be 
> able to switch to that HDMI port so you can see the screen and hear 
> what's going on, including the screenreaer. So really, the iPad mini 
> has no role to play here.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 5:35 PM, Johnny Angel <j...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Mary,
>> 
>> Yah I just want to be able to access menus and movie category and 
>> individual movies. So, in addition to my I-pad mini and HTMI cable to 
>> connect to my dumb TV, I need two other items to get, right? The TV 
>> fire stick and the Voice View screen reader. And I take it that 
>> Amazon
> sells everything I need?
>> 
>> I'll check it all out and let you know how things are going.
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> 
>> John Chilelli
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:09 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
>> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> Yes, with the fire tv stick, you can access netflix and see 
>> categories of movies, go through lists etc. When I first got the tv 
>> stick, sign in was not accessible. Now it is, according to other 
>> blind people; since I got sighted help for my initial sign in, I 
>> haven't had to do that again, so I can personally verify it. My set 
>> up is wifi. I honestly don't remember how difficult it was to do that 
>> sign in, because it was several months ago, and I've gone through a 
>> lot of stuff in my personal life since then. Now the fire stick has 
>> alexa as well as the voiceview screen reader. I don't use the alexa 
>> much, but it is there. I also can't speak to Pandora accessibility, 
>> since I don't
> use that service.
>> But netflix is good, better than on the apple tv, because it is 
>> better at announcing the category or row of movie listings you are in.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

2017-06-30 Thread Mary Otten 
Downloaded software and games. I don't believe that stores recordings.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2017, at 5:46 PM, Johnny Angel <j...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> So why would one expand the memory on one of these fire boxes? Is it
> primarily to store recordings?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary
> Schindler
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 6:16 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> The only advantage with the fire tv box is that it has a faster processor
> and you can expand the memory with a micro SD card. No extras for blind
> people!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Johnny Angel
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 9:30 AM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> Hi again Mary,
> 
> Do you know anything about the Amazon fire tv box that sells for like $90?
> I'm going to do some more research on the box, It offers more than the fire
> stick like being able to expand the memory to I think 128 gb. I think it is
> also 4K ready, whereas the fire stick is limited to 1 gb of memory and is
> only capable of 1K programming. But it is like $50 more than the stick, and
> I don't know if it yields the same joy as the stick does for a blind user.
> 
> Anyway, if anyone on the list has an Amazon fire tv box, please chime in
> here to let me and others know if getting the fire box instead of the fire
> stick offers advantages useful for a blind individual.
> 
> Thanks so much,
> 
> John Chilelli
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:55 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> The screen reader comes on the fire. When you first get it, it will download
> a better voice than the one that originally starts up. There are
> instructions how to get it going from the get go on Amazon. I don't have the
> link right here, but if somebody doesn't come up with it, I will see if I
> can find it. Also, make sure that once you get your fire up and running,
> that you make sure the software is up-to-date. So you want to check for
> updates of course. You don't really need the iPad mini for this. You just
> need to have a place to plug the Kindle fire stick directly into the TV.
> That would be an HDMI port available. And of course you have to be able to
> switch to that HDMI port so you can see the screen and hear what's going on,
> including the screenreaer. So really, the iPad mini has no role to play
> here.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 5:35 PM, Johnny Angel <j...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Mary,
>> 
>> Yah I just want to be able to access menus and movie category and 
>> individual movies. So, in addition to my I-pad mini and HTMI cable to 
>> connect to my dumb TV, I need two other items to get, right? The TV 
>> fire stick and the Voice View screen reader. And I take it that Amazon
> sells everything I need?
>> 
>> I'll check it all out and let you know how things are going.
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> 
>> John Chilelli
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:09 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
>> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> Yes, with the fire tv stick, you can access netflix and see categories 
>> of movies, go through lists etc. When I first got the tv stick, sign 
>> in was not accessible. Now it is, according to other blind people; 
>> since I got sighted help for my initial sign in, I haven't had to do 
>> that again, so I can personally verify it. My set up is wifi. I 
>> honestly don't remember how difficult it was to do that sign in, 
>> because it was several months ago, and I've gone through a lot of 
>> stuff in my personal life since then. Now the fire stick has alexa as 
>> well as the voiceview screen reader. I don't use the alexa much, but 
>> it is there. I also can't speak to Pandora accessibility, since I 
>> don't
> use that service.
>> But netflix is good, better than on the apple tv, because it is better 
>> at announcing the category or row of movie listings you are in.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
>

RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

2017-06-30 Thread Johnny Angel 
Got it!

Thanks Mary...

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 8:18 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

I agree with Gary. As a blind person, I see no reason to pay more. If you
have sighted people in your house of course, there are advantages as he
pointed out. Amazon prime day is coming up. I don't know what country you
are in. But if you are one that gets that primed day thing, you might wait
and see what specials they will be having, especially if you're interested
in the Fire TV. They always seem to discount their own products fairly
heavily.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2017, at 6:15 AM, Gary Schindler <garys5...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> The only advantage with the fire tv box is that it has a faster processor
and you can expand the memory with a micro SD card. No extras for blind
people!
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Johnny Angel
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 9:30 AM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> Hi again Mary,
> 
> Do you know anything about the Amazon fire tv box that sells for like $90?
> I'm going to do some more research on the box, It offers more than the 
> fire stick like being able to expand the memory to I think 128 gb. I 
> think it is also 4K ready, whereas the fire stick is limited to 1 gb 
> of memory and is only capable of 1K programming. But it is like $50 
> more than the stick, and I don't know if it yields the same joy as the
stick does for a blind user.
> 
> Anyway, if anyone on the list has an Amazon fire tv box, please chime 
> in here to let me and others know if getting the fire box instead of 
> the fire stick offers advantages useful for a blind individual.
> 
> Thanks so much,
> 
> John Chilelli
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:55 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> The screen reader comes on the fire. When you first get it, it will 
> download a better voice than the one that originally starts up. There 
> are instructions how to get it going from the get go on Amazon. I 
> don't have the link right here, but if somebody doesn't come up with 
> it, I will see if I can find it. Also, make sure that once you get 
> your fire up and running, that you make sure the software is 
> up-to-date. So you want to check for updates of course. You don't 
> really need the iPad mini for this. You just need to have a place to plug
the Kindle fire stick directly into the TV.
> That would be an HDMI port available. And of course you have to be 
> able to switch to that HDMI port so you can see the screen and hear 
> what's going on, including the screenreaer. So really, the iPad mini 
> has no role to play here.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 5:35 PM, Johnny Angel <j...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Mary,
>> 
>> Yah I just want to be able to access menus and movie category and 
>> individual movies. So, in addition to my I-pad mini and HTMI cable to 
>> connect to my dumb TV, I need two other items to get, right? The TV 
>> fire stick and the Voice View screen reader. And I take it that 
>> Amazon
> sells everything I need?
>> 
>> I'll check it all out and let you know how things are going.
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> 
>> John Chilelli
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:09 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
>> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> Yes, with the fire tv stick, you can access netflix and see 
>> categories of movies, go through lists etc. When I first got the tv 
>> stick, sign in was not accessible. Now it is, according to other 
>> blind people; since I got sighted help for my initial sign in, I 
>> haven't had to do that again, so I can personally verify it. My set 
>> up is wifi. I honestly don't remember how difficult it was to do that 
>> sign in, because it was several months ago, and I've gone through a 
>> lot of stuff in my personal life since then. Now the fire stick has 
>> alexa as well as the voiceview screen reader. I don't use the alexa 
>> much, but it is there. I also can't speak to Pandora accessibility, 
>> since I don't
> use that service.
>> But netflix is good, better than on the apple tv, because it is 
>> better at announcing the category or row of movie listings you are in.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
>

RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

2017-06-30 Thread Johnny Angel 
So why would one expand the memory on one of these fire boxes? Is it
primarily to store recordings?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary
Schindler
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 6:16 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

The only advantage with the fire tv box is that it has a faster processor
and you can expand the memory with a micro SD card. No extras for blind
people!


-Original Message-
From: Johnny Angel
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 9:30 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

Hi again Mary,

Do you know anything about the Amazon fire tv box that sells for like $90?
I'm going to do some more research on the box, It offers more than the fire
stick like being able to expand the memory to I think 128 gb. I think it is
also 4K ready, whereas the fire stick is limited to 1 gb of memory and is
only capable of 1K programming. But it is like $50 more than the stick, and
I don't know if it yields the same joy as the stick does for a blind user.

Anyway, if anyone on the list has an Amazon fire tv box, please chime in
here to let me and others know if getting the fire box instead of the fire
stick offers advantages useful for a blind individual.

Thanks so much,

John Chilelli

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

The screen reader comes on the fire. When you first get it, it will download
a better voice than the one that originally starts up. There are
instructions how to get it going from the get go on Amazon. I don't have the
link right here, but if somebody doesn't come up with it, I will see if I
can find it. Also, make sure that once you get your fire up and running,
that you make sure the software is up-to-date. So you want to check for
updates of course. You don't really need the iPad mini for this. You just
need to have a place to plug the Kindle fire stick directly into the TV.
That would be an HDMI port available. And of course you have to be able to
switch to that HDMI port so you can see the screen and hear what's going on,
including the screenreaer. So really, the iPad mini has no role to play
here.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 29, 2017, at 5:35 PM, Johnny Angel <j...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Mary,
>
> Yah I just want to be able to access menus and movie category and 
> individual movies. So, in addition to my I-pad mini and HTMI cable to 
> connect to my dumb TV, I need two other items to get, right? The TV 
> fire stick and the Voice View screen reader. And I take it that Amazon
sells everything I need?
>
> I'll check it all out and let you know how things are going.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> John Chilelli
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:09 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
>
> Hi John,
>
> Yes, with the fire tv stick, you can access netflix and see categories 
> of movies, go through lists etc. When I first got the tv stick, sign 
> in was not accessible. Now it is, according to other blind people; 
> since I got sighted help for my initial sign in, I haven't had to do 
> that again, so I can personally verify it. My set up is wifi. I 
> honestly don't remember how difficult it was to do that sign in, 
> because it was several months ago, and I've gone through a lot of 
> stuff in my personal life since then. Now the fire stick has alexa as 
> well as the voiceview screen reader. I don't use the alexa much, but 
> it is there. I also can't speak to Pandora accessibility, since I 
> don't
use that service.
> But netflix is good, better than on the apple tv, because it is better 
> at announcing the category or row of movie listings you are in.
>
> Mary
>
>
>

Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

2017-06-30 Thread Mary Otten 
I agree with Gary. As a blind person, I see no reason to pay more. If you have 
sighted people in your house of course, there are advantages as he pointed out. 
Amazon prime day is coming up. I don't know what country you are in. But if you 
are one that gets that primed day thing, you might wait and see what specials 
they will be having, especially if you're interested in the Fire TV. They 
always seem to discount their own products fairly heavily.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2017, at 6:15 AM, Gary Schindler <garys5...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> The only advantage with the fire tv box is that it has a faster processor and 
> you can expand the memory with a micro SD card. No extras for blind people!
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Johnny Angel
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 9:30 AM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> Hi again Mary,
> 
> Do you know anything about the Amazon fire tv box that sells for like $90?
> I'm going to do some more research on the box, It offers more than the fire
> stick like being able to expand the memory to I think 128 gb. I think it is
> also 4K ready, whereas the fire stick is limited to 1 gb of memory and is
> only capable of 1K programming. But it is like $50 more than the stick, and
> I don't know if it yields the same joy as the stick does for a blind user.
> 
> Anyway, if anyone on the list has an Amazon fire tv box, please chime in
> here to let me and others know if getting the fire box instead of the fire
> stick offers advantages useful for a blind individual.
> 
> Thanks so much,
> 
> John Chilelli
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:55 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> The screen reader comes on the fire. When you first get it, it will download
> a better voice than the one that originally starts up. There are
> instructions how to get it going from the get go on Amazon. I don't have the
> link right here, but if somebody doesn't come up with it, I will see if I
> can find it. Also, make sure that once you get your fire up and running,
> that you make sure the software is up-to-date. So you want to check for
> updates of course. You don't really need the iPad mini for this. You just
> need to have a place to plug the Kindle fire stick directly into the TV.
> That would be an HDMI port available. And of course you have to be able to
> switch to that HDMI port so you can see the screen and hear what's going on,
> including the screenreaer. So really, the iPad mini has no role to play
> here.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 5:35 PM, Johnny Angel <j...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Mary,
>> 
>> Yah I just want to be able to access menus and movie category and
>> individual movies. So, in addition to my I-pad mini and HTMI cable to
>> connect to my dumb TV, I need two other items to get, right? The TV
>> fire stick and the Voice View screen reader. And I take it that Amazon
> sells everything I need?
>> 
>> I'll check it all out and let you know how things are going.
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> 
>> John Chilelli
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:09 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
>> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> Yes, with the fire tv stick, you can access netflix and see categories
>> of movies, go through lists etc. When I first got the tv stick, sign
>> in was not accessible. Now it is, according to other blind people;
>> since I got sighted help for my initial sign in, I haven't had to do
>> that again, so I can personally verify it. My set up is wifi. I
>> honestly don't remember how difficult it was to do that sign in,
>> because it was several months ago, and I've gone through a lot of
>> stuff in my personal life since then. Now the fire stick has alexa as
>> well as the voiceview screen reader. I don't use the alexa much, but
>> it is there. I also can't speak to Pandora accessibility, since I don't
> use that service.
>> But netflix is good, better than on the apple tv, because it is better
>> at announcing the category or row of movie listings you are in.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
>

Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

2017-06-30 Thread Gary Schindler 
The only advantage with the fire tv box is that it has a faster processor 
and you can expand the memory with a micro SD card. No extras for blind 
people!



-Original Message- 
From: Johnny Angel

Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 9:30 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

Hi again Mary,

Do you know anything about the Amazon fire tv box that sells for like $90?
I'm going to do some more research on the box, It offers more than the fire
stick like being able to expand the memory to I think 128 gb. I think it is
also 4K ready, whereas the fire stick is limited to 1 gb of memory and is
only capable of 1K programming. But it is like $50 more than the stick, and
I don't know if it yields the same joy as the stick does for a blind user.

Anyway, if anyone on the list has an Amazon fire tv box, please chime in
here to let me and others know if getting the fire box instead of the fire
stick offers advantages useful for a blind individual.

Thanks so much,

John Chilelli

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

The screen reader comes on the fire. When you first get it, it will download
a better voice than the one that originally starts up. There are
instructions how to get it going from the get go on Amazon. I don't have the
link right here, but if somebody doesn't come up with it, I will see if I
can find it. Also, make sure that once you get your fire up and running,
that you make sure the software is up-to-date. So you want to check for
updates of course. You don't really need the iPad mini for this. You just
need to have a place to plug the Kindle fire stick directly into the TV.
That would be an HDMI port available. And of course you have to be able to
switch to that HDMI port so you can see the screen and hear what's going on,
including the screenreaer. So really, the iPad mini has no role to play
here.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 29, 2017, at 5:35 PM, Johnny Angel <j...@neo.rr.com> wrote:

Thanks Mary,

Yah I just want to be able to access menus and movie category and
individual movies. So, in addition to my I-pad mini and HTMI cable to
connect to my dumb TV, I need two other items to get, right? The TV
fire stick and the Voice View screen reader. And I take it that Amazon

sells everything I need?


I'll check it all out and let you know how things are going.

Thanks again,

John Chilelli

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:09 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

Hi John,

Yes, with the fire tv stick, you can access netflix and see categories
of movies, go through lists etc. When I first got the tv stick, sign
in was not accessible. Now it is, according to other blind people;
since I got sighted help for my initial sign in, I haven't had to do
that again, so I can personally verify it. My set up is wifi. I
honestly don't remember how difficult it was to do that sign in,
because it was several months ago, and I've gone through a lot of
stuff in my personal life since then. Now the fire stick has alexa as
well as the voiceview screen reader. I don't use the alexa much, but
it is there. I also can't speak to Pandora accessibility, since I don't

use that service.

But netflix is good, better than on the apple tv, because it is better
at announcing the category or row of movie listings you are in.

Mary

RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

2017-06-30 Thread Johnny Angel 
Hi again Mary,

Do you know anything about the Amazon fire tv box that sells for like $90?
I'm going to do some more research on the box, It offers more than the fire
stick like being able to expand the memory to I think 128 gb. I think it is
also 4K ready, whereas the fire stick is limited to 1 gb of memory and is
only capable of 1K programming. But it is like $50 more than the stick, and
I don't know if it yields the same joy as the stick does for a blind user.

Anyway, if anyone on the list has an Amazon fire tv box, please chime in
here to let me and others know if getting the fire box instead of the fire
stick offers advantages useful for a blind individual.

Thanks so much,

John Chilelli

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

The screen reader comes on the fire. When you first get it, it will download
a better voice than the one that originally starts up. There are
instructions how to get it going from the get go on Amazon. I don't have the
link right here, but if somebody doesn't come up with it, I will see if I
can find it. Also, make sure that once you get your fire up and running,
that you make sure the software is up-to-date. So you want to check for
updates of course. You don't really need the iPad mini for this. You just
need to have a place to plug the Kindle fire stick directly into the TV.
That would be an HDMI port available. And of course you have to be able to
switch to that HDMI port so you can see the screen and hear what's going on,
including the screenreaer. So really, the iPad mini has no role to play
here.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 29, 2017, at 5:35 PM, Johnny Angel <j...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Mary,
> 
> Yah I just want to be able to access menus and movie category and 
> individual movies. So, in addition to my I-pad mini and HTMI cable to 
> connect to my dumb TV, I need two other items to get, right? The TV 
> fire stick and the Voice View screen reader. And I take it that Amazon
sells everything I need?
> 
> I'll check it all out and let you know how things are going.
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> John Chilelli
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:09 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> Yes, with the fire tv stick, you can access netflix and see categories 
> of movies, go through lists etc. When I first got the tv stick, sign 
> in was not accessible. Now it is, according to other blind people; 
> since I got sighted help for my initial sign in, I haven't had to do 
> that again, so I can personally verify it. My set up is wifi. I 
> honestly don't remember how difficult it was to do that sign in, 
> because it was several months ago, and I've gone through a lot of 
> stuff in my personal life since then. Now the fire stick has alexa as 
> well as the voiceview screen reader. I don't use the alexa much, but 
> it is there. I also can't speak to Pandora accessibility, since I don't
use that service.
> But netflix is good, better than on the apple tv, because it is better 
> at announcing the category or row of movie listings you are in.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
>

Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

2017-06-29 Thread Mary Otten 
The screen reader comes on the fire. When you first get it, it will download a 
better voice than the one that originally starts up. There are instructions how 
to get it going from the get go on Amazon. I don't have the link right here, 
but if somebody doesn't come up with it, I will see if I can find it. Also, 
make sure that once you get your fire up and running, that you make sure the 
software is up-to-date. So you want to check for updates of course. You don't 
really need the iPad mini for this. You just need to have a place to plug the 
Kindle fire stick directly into the TV. That would be an HDMI port available. 
And of course you have to be able to switch to that HDMI port so you can see 
the screen and hear what's going on, including the screenreaer. So really, the 
iPad mini has no role to play here.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 29, 2017, at 5:35 PM, Johnny Angel <j...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Mary,
> 
> Yah I just want to be able to access menus and movie category and individual
> movies. So, in addition to my I-pad mini and HTMI cable to connect to my
> dumb TV, I need two other items to get, right? The TV fire stick and the
> Voice View screen reader. And I take it that Amazon sells everything I need?
> 
> I'll check it all out and let you know how things are going.
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> John Chilelli
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
> Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:09 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> Yes, with the fire tv stick, you can access netflix and see categories of
> movies, go through lists etc. When I first got the tv stick, sign in was not
> accessible. Now it is, according to other blind people; since I got sighted
> help for my initial sign in, I haven't had to do that again, so I can
> personally verify it. My set up is wifi. I honestly don't remember how
> difficult it was to do that sign in, because it was several months ago, and
> I've gone through a lot of stuff in my personal life since then. Now the
> fire stick has alexa as well as the voiceview screen reader. I don't use the
> alexa much, but it is there. I also can't speak to Pandora accessibility,
> since I don't use that service.
> But netflix is good, better than on the apple tv, because it is better at
> announcing the category or row of movie listings you are in.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
>

RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

2017-06-29 Thread Johnny Angel 
Thanks Mary,

Yah I just want to be able to access menus and movie category and individual
movies. So, in addition to my I-pad mini and HTMI cable to connect to my
dumb TV, I need two other items to get, right? The TV fire stick and the
Voice View screen reader. And I take it that Amazon sells everything I need?

I'll check it all out and let you know how things are going.

Thanks again,

John Chilelli

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:09 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

Hi John,

Yes, with the fire tv stick, you can access netflix and see categories of
movies, go through lists etc. When I first got the tv stick, sign in was not
accessible. Now it is, according to other blind people; since I got sighted
help for my initial sign in, I haven't had to do that again, so I can
personally verify it. My set up is wifi. I honestly don't remember how
difficult it was to do that sign in, because it was several months ago, and
I've gone through a lot of stuff in my personal life since then. Now the
fire stick has alexa as well as the voiceview screen reader. I don't use the
alexa much, but it is there. I also can't speak to Pandora accessibility,
since I don't use that service.
But netflix is good, better than on the apple tv, because it is better at
announcing the category or row of movie listings you are in.

Mary

RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

2017-06-28 Thread Mary Otten 
Hi John,

Yes, with the fire tv stick, you can access netflix and see categories
of movies, go through lists etc. When I first got the tv stick, sign in
was not accessible. Now it is, according to other blind people; since I
got sighted help for my initial sign in, I haven't had to do that
again, so I can personally verify it. My set up is wifi. I honestly
don't remember how difficult it was to do that sign in, because it was
several months ago, and I've gone through a lot of stuff in my personal
life since then. Now the fire stick has alexa as well as the voiceview
screen reader. I don't use the alexa much, but it is there. I also
can't speak to Pandora accessibility, since I don't use that service.
But netflix is good, better than on the apple tv, because it is better
at announcing the category or row of movie listings you are in.

Mary

RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

2017-06-28 Thread Johnny Angel 
Mary,

Just how completely and fully is Netflix accessible? Are you able to use a
text to speech function to here individual menu choices or here information
on various movies. Are you able to with your setup, find and then scroll
down through various categories and individual movie selections? Is your
setup WyFy? If Netflix and Pandora accessibility that good, would you please
go over your setup for me?

Thanks,

John Chilelli

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 4:21 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

I did not read the access world review, and only fairly recently got the
fire TV stick. But it works fine, although some apps are not accessible. All
of the Amazon stuff is accessible. Netflix is accessible. You can adjust the
voice speed and the volume. So I'm not sure what you might be looking for
specifically in terms of accessibility questions.
Mary


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> On May 5, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>
wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Does anyone on list own one of these devices? If so then how are you
finding it.
> 
> I read a review of the device in an issue of Access World last year, I
know someone who just bought one and thus was curious to know if any further
progress had been made with subsequent updates of the Amazon Fire firware,
the VoiceView Screen Reader, the Voice Remote Controller etc.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> **
> "Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if
you were going to live forever"
> 
>

Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

2017-05-06 Thread Anders Holmberg 
Hi!
There is a guy on the mac visionaries list that has one.
Would you like me to talk to him via e-mail and let him contact you.
/A
> 5 maj 2017 kl. 21:48 skrev Dane Trethowan :
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Does anyone on list own one of these devices? If so then how are you finding 
> it.
> 
> I read a review of the device in an issue of Access World last year, I know 
> someone who just bought one and thus was curious to know if any further 
> progress had been made with subsequent updates of the Amazon Fire firware, 
> the VoiceView Screen Reader, the Voice Remote Controller etc.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> **
> "Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if 
> you were going to live forever"
> 
>

Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

2017-05-05 Thread Dane Trethowan 
Thanks for that, I’ll find the review and post a link here so you can compare 
it with what you know, may be helpful.

> On 6 May 2017, at 9:20 am, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I did not read the access world review, and only fairly recently got the fire 
> TV stick. But it works fine, although some apps are not accessible. All of 
> the Amazon stuff is accessible. Netflix is accessible. You can adjust the 
> voice speed and the volume. So I'm not sure what you might be looking for 
> specifically in terms of accessibility questions.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 5, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> Does anyone on list own one of these devices? If so then how are you finding 
>> it.
>> 
>> I read a review of the device in an issue of Access World last year, I know 
>> someone who just bought one and thus was curious to know if any further 
>> progress had been made with subsequent updates of the Amazon Fire firware, 
>> the VoiceView Screen Reader, the Voice Remote Controller etc.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> **
>> "Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if 
>> you were going to live forever"
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

2017-05-05 Thread Mary Otten 
I did not read the access world review, and only fairly recently got the fire 
TV stick. But it works fine, although some apps are not accessible. All of the 
Amazon stuff is accessible. Netflix is accessible. You can adjust the voice 
speed and the volume. So I'm not sure what you might be looking for 
specifically in terms of accessibility questions.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 5, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Does anyone on list own one of these devices? If so then how are you finding 
> it.
> 
> I read a review of the device in an issue of Access World last year, I know 
> someone who just bought one and thus was curious to know if any further 
> progress had been made with subsequent updates of the Amazon Fire firware, 
> the VoiceView Screen Reader, the Voice Remote Controller etc.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> **
> "Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if 
> you were going to live forever"
> 
>

Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote

2017-05-05 Thread Dane Trethowan 

Hi!

Does anyone on list own one of these devices? If so then how are you 
finding it.


I read a review of the device in an issue of Access World last year, I 
know someone who just bought one and thus was curious to know if any 
further progress had been made with subsequent updates of the Amazon 
Fire firware, the VoiceView Screen Reader, the Voice Remote Controller etc.




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"Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were 
going to live forever"