Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

[Dane Trethowan]

Google Is My Friend so stuff the fish .



On 1/19/2017 11:16 PM, John Gurd wrote:

That's good to know, but I'm interested, how did you get at them in the first 
place. You know the old proverb about giving a man a fish is good but teaching 
him how to fish is better (smiles).

So long, and thanks for all the fish! Sorry, couldn't resist the Douglas Adams 
reference.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 17 January 2017 12:01
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

I published all available 320K URL’S to the BBC to the list several months ago.


On 17 Jan 2017, at 8:59 pm, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Where do you get the URL for the direct BBC stream?

Thanks

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
John Covici
Sent: 11 January 2017 05:26
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

Yep, works well and they fixed the windows 10 bug they had.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:32:11 -0500,
Dean Martineau wrote:

Does background recording work in Total Recorder in Windows 10?  That
program used to work remarkably well in XP but I haven't had much

success

with it since and haven't used it much as a result.

Dean


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
John Covici
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:53 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

There are certain limitations for this -- I use it all the time, but
it won't work on some streams like anything that uses flash, and it
doesn't work on youtube links.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:09:09 -0500,
Dane Trethowan wrote:

As far as I know the same holds true.
Now I?m doing this from memory as its been a while since I used
Total

Recorder, you go into Background recording where you?re prompted to

enter an

UR that links to a stream of a radio station on the net etc.

Total Recorder captures the data from this stream in real time thus

avoiding the Sound Card completely so its just total recorder saving
the data from the stream to the computer, nothing more and nothing less.

You can open url?s or streams in Total Recorder for listening in the

same

way from the File Menu.

On 11 Jan 2017, at 12:01 pm, Tom Kaufman <tomca...@comcast.net>

wrote:

Have a question for Dane: you say you can have TR record and not

have

the screen reader interfere with anything.  I have the standard
version

of

TR, so does the same hold true here?  And if so, how is this done?

Thanks,
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of

Dane

Trethowan

Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:14 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

I'm meerly making a suggestion which would save you heaps of time

and

frustration in the end for several reasons.

What you're doing at the moment is known as a software recording
and
this may mean that other audio surces could be heard in the

recording

itself such as system sounds from your computer or even your Screen

Reader.

If you Capture the stream as I outlined then the pricess is

completely

independent of your Sound card thus you can carry on with other
activities on your computer, have your Screen Reader ttalk to its

hearts

content etc.

Anyway how you do things is completely up to you but I do suggest

you

read the primers on Total Recorders web page wich contain some
great
information on this sort of thing.

Total Recorder is an incredibly powerful tool and much of that
power

is

hidden away.

What version of Total Recorder are you using by the way?



On 1/11/2017 6:16 AM, Andy wrote:

Hi Dane.

I don't set TR to do anything.  When I launch it, JAWS announces,
press the space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a

good

quality WAV file, of the show that I'm listening to.

I just was not sure if I  could be doing this job of recording

better.

In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320

kbps

and if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at

the

same quality.

I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream

the

show, but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record
directly from Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio?

Am I right?  Or is it very much the same thing whither I stream
through Tap-in radio, the Accessable BBC Iplayer or Internet

explorer.


Incidentaly, BBC radio 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 are all termed "Global"
stations, thus the 320 kbps.  However, my favourate station is

Radio

Scotland, but this is considered as a Reginal station and only
streamed at 128 kbps.

So much for equality, whe

RE: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

[John Gurd]

That's good to know, but I'm interested, how did you get at them in the first 
place. You know the old proverb about giving a man a fish is good but teaching 
him how to fish is better (smiles).

So long, and thanks for all the fish! Sorry, couldn't resist the Douglas Adams 
reference.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 17 January 2017 12:01
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

I published all available 320K URL’S to the BBC to the list several months ago.

> On 17 Jan 2017, at 8:59 pm, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> Where do you get the URL for the direct BBC stream?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> John
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> John Covici
> Sent: 11 January 2017 05:26
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
> 
> Yep, works well and they fixed the windows 10 bug they had.
> 
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:32:11 -0500,
> Dean Martineau wrote:
>> 
>> Does background recording work in Total Recorder in Windows 10?  That 
>> program used to work remarkably well in XP but I haven't had much
> success
>> with it since and haven't used it much as a result.
>> 
>> Dean
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> John Covici
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:53 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
>> 
>> There are certain limitations for this -- I use it all the time, but 
>> it won't work on some streams like anything that uses flash, and it 
>> doesn't work on youtube links.
>> 
>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:09:09 -0500,
>> Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>> 
>>> As far as I know the same holds true.
>>> Now I?m doing this from memory as its been a while since I used 
>>> Total
>> Recorder, you go into Background recording where you?re prompted to
> enter an
>> UR that links to a stream of a radio station on the net etc.
>>> Total Recorder captures the data from this stream in real time thus
>> avoiding the Sound Card completely so its just total recorder saving 
>> the data from the stream to the computer, nothing more and nothing less.
>>> You can open url?s or streams in Total Recorder for listening in the
> same
>> way from the File Menu.
>>> 
>>>> On 11 Jan 2017, at 12:01 pm, Tom Kaufman <tomca...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Have a question for Dane: you say you can have TR record and not
> have
>> the screen reader interfere with anything.  I have the standard 
>> version
> of
>> TR, so does the same hold true here?  And if so, how is this done? 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
> Dane
>> Trethowan
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:14 PM
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
>>>> 
>>>> I'm meerly making a suggestion which would save you heaps of time
> and
>>>> frustration in the end for several reasons.
>>>> 
>>>> What you're doing at the moment is known as a software recording 
>>>> and
> 
>>>> this may mean that other audio surces could be heard in the
> recording
>>>> itself such as system sounds from your computer or even your Screen
>> Reader.
>>>> 
>>>> If you Capture the stream as I outlined then the pricess is
> completely 
>>>> independent of your Sound card thus you can carry on with other 
>>>> activities on your computer, have your Screen Reader ttalk to its
> hearts
>> 
>>>> content etc.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway how you do things is completely up to you but I do suggest
> you 
>>>> read the primers on Total Recorders web page wich contain some 
>>>> great
> 
>>>> information on this sort of thing.
>>>> 
>>>> Total Recorder is an incredibly powerful tool and much of that 
>>>> power
> is 
>>>> hidden away.
>>>> 
>>>> What version of Total Recorder are you using by the way?
>>&

Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

[Dane Trethowan]

I published all available 320K URL’S to the BBC to the list several months ago.

> On 17 Jan 2017, at 8:59 pm, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> Where do you get the URL for the direct BBC stream?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> John
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of John
> Covici
> Sent: 11 January 2017 05:26
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
> 
> Yep, works well and they fixed the windows 10 bug they had.
> 
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:32:11 -0500,
> Dean Martineau wrote:
>> 
>> Does background recording work in Total Recorder in Windows 10?  That 
>> program used to work remarkably well in XP but I haven't had much
> success
>> with it since and haven't used it much as a result.
>> 
>> Dean
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> John Covici
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:53 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
>> 
>> There are certain limitations for this -- I use it all the time, but 
>> it won't work on some streams like anything that uses flash, and it 
>> doesn't work on youtube links.
>> 
>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:09:09 -0500,
>> Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>> 
>>> As far as I know the same holds true.
>>> Now I?m doing this from memory as its been a while since I used 
>>> Total
>> Recorder, you go into Background recording where you?re prompted to
> enter an
>> UR that links to a stream of a radio station on the net etc.
>>> Total Recorder captures the data from this stream in real time thus
>> avoiding the Sound Card completely so its just total recorder saving 
>> the data from the stream to the computer, nothing more and nothing less.
>>> You can open url?s or streams in Total Recorder for listening in the
> same
>> way from the File Menu.
>>> 
>>>> On 11 Jan 2017, at 12:01 pm, Tom Kaufman <tomca...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Have a question for Dane: you say you can have TR record and not
> have
>> the screen reader interfere with anything.  I have the standard 
>> version
> of
>> TR, so does the same hold true here?  And if so, how is this done? 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
> Dane
>> Trethowan
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:14 PM
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
>>>> 
>>>> I'm meerly making a suggestion which would save you heaps of time
> and 
>>>> frustration in the end for several reasons.
>>>> 
>>>> What you're doing at the moment is known as a software recording 
>>>> and
> 
>>>> this may mean that other audio surces could be heard in the
> recording 
>>>> itself such as system sounds from your computer or even your 
>>>> Screen
>> Reader.
>>>> 
>>>> If you Capture the stream as I outlined then the pricess is
> completely 
>>>> independent of your Sound card thus you can carry on with other 
>>>> activities on your computer, have your Screen Reader ttalk to its
> hearts
>> 
>>>> content etc.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway how you do things is completely up to you but I do suggest
> you 
>>>> read the primers on Total Recorders web page wich contain some 
>>>> great
> 
>>>> information on this sort of thing.
>>>> 
>>>> Total Recorder is an incredibly powerful tool and much of that 
>>>> power
> is 
>>>> hidden away.
>>>> 
>>>> What version of Total Recorder are you using by the way?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/11/2017 6:16 AM, Andy wrote:
>>>>> Hi Dane.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't set TR to do anything.  When I launch it, JAWS announces, 
>>>>> press the space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a
> good 
>>>>> quality WAV file, of the show that I'm listening to.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just was not sure if I  could be doing this job of recording
> b

RE: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

[John Gurd]

Where do you get the URL for the direct BBC stream?

Thanks

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: 11 January 2017 05:26
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

Yep, works well and they fixed the windows 10 bug they had.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:32:11 -0500,
Dean Martineau wrote:
> 
> Does background recording work in Total Recorder in Windows 10?  That 
> program used to work remarkably well in XP but I haven't had much
success
> with it since and haven't used it much as a result.
> 
> Dean
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> John Covici
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:53 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
> 
> There are certain limitations for this -- I use it all the time, but 
> it won't work on some streams like anything that uses flash, and it 
> doesn't work on youtube links.
> 
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:09:09 -0500,
> Dane Trethowan wrote:
> > 
> > As far as I know the same holds true.
> > Now I?m doing this from memory as its been a while since I used 
> > Total
> Recorder, you go into Background recording where you?re prompted to
enter an
> UR that links to a stream of a radio station on the net etc.
> > Total Recorder captures the data from this stream in real time thus
> avoiding the Sound Card completely so its just total recorder saving 
> the data from the stream to the computer, nothing more and nothing less.
> > You can open url?s or streams in Total Recorder for listening in the
same
> way from the File Menu.
> > 
> > > On 11 Jan 2017, at 12:01 pm, Tom Kaufman <tomca...@comcast.net>
wrote:
> > > 
> > > Have a question for Dane: you say you can have TR record and not
have
> the screen reader interfere with anything.  I have the standard 
> version
of
> TR, so does the same hold true here?  And if so, how is this done? 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tom Kaufman
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane
> Trethowan
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:14 PM
> > > To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> > > Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
> > > 
> > > I'm meerly making a suggestion which would save you heaps of time
and 
> > > frustration in the end for several reasons.
> > > 
> > > What you're doing at the moment is known as a software recording 
> > > and

> > > this may mean that other audio surces could be heard in the
recording 
> > > itself such as system sounds from your computer or even your 
> > > Screen
> Reader.
> > > 
> > > If you Capture the stream as I outlined then the pricess is
completely 
> > > independent of your Sound card thus you can carry on with other 
> > > activities on your computer, have your Screen Reader ttalk to its
hearts
> 
> > > content etc.
> > > 
> > > Anyway how you do things is completely up to you but I do suggest
you 
> > > read the primers on Total Recorders web page wich contain some 
> > > great

> > > information on this sort of thing.
> > > 
> > > Total Recorder is an incredibly powerful tool and much of that 
> > > power
is 
> > > hidden away.
> > > 
> > > What version of Total Recorder are you using by the way?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 1/11/2017 6:16 AM, Andy wrote:
> > >> Hi Dane.
> > >> 
> > >> I don't set TR to do anything.  When I launch it, JAWS announces, 
> > >> press the space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a
good 
> > >> quality WAV file, of the show that I'm listening to.
> > >> 
> > >> I just was not sure if I  could be doing this job of recording
better.
> > >> 
> > >> In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320
kbps 
> > >> and if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at
the 
> > >> same quality.
> > >> 
> > >> I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream
the 
> > >> show, but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record 
> > >> directly from Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio?
> > >> 
> > >> Am I right?  Or is it very mu

Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

[John Covici]

Yep, works well and they fixed the windows 10 bug they had.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:32:11 -0500,
Dean Martineau wrote:
> 
> Does background recording work in Total Recorder in Windows 10?  That
> program used to work remarkably well in XP but I haven't had much success
> with it since and haven't used it much as a result.
> 
> Dean
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of John
> Covici
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:53 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
> 
> There are certain limitations for this -- I use it all the time, but
> it won't work on some streams like anything that uses flash, and it
> doesn't work on youtube links.
> 
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:09:09 -0500,
> Dane Trethowan wrote:
> > 
> > As far as I know the same holds true.
> > Now I?m doing this from memory as its been a while since I used Total
> Recorder, you go into Background recording where you?re prompted to enter an
> UR that links to a stream of a radio station on the net etc.
> > Total Recorder captures the data from this stream in real time thus
> avoiding the Sound Card completely so its just total recorder saving the
> data from the stream to the computer, nothing more and nothing less.
> > You can open url?s or streams in Total Recorder for listening in the same
> way from the File Menu.
> > 
> > > On 11 Jan 2017, at 12:01 pm, Tom Kaufman <tomca...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Have a question for Dane: you say you can have TR record and not have
> the screen reader interfere with anything.  I have the standard version of
> TR, so does the same hold true here?  And if so, how is this done? 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tom Kaufman
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
> Trethowan
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:14 PM
> > > To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> > > Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
> > > 
> > > I'm meerly making a suggestion which would save you heaps of time and 
> > > frustration in the end for several reasons.
> > > 
> > > What you're doing at the moment is known as a software recording and 
> > > this may mean that other audio surces could be heard in the recording 
> > > itself such as system sounds from your computer or even your Screen
> Reader.
> > > 
> > > If you Capture the stream as I outlined then the pricess is completely 
> > > independent of your Sound card thus you can carry on with other 
> > > activities on your computer, have your Screen Reader ttalk to its hearts
> 
> > > content etc.
> > > 
> > > Anyway how you do things is completely up to you but I do suggest you 
> > > read the primers on Total Recorders web page wich contain some great 
> > > information on this sort of thing.
> > > 
> > > Total Recorder is an incredibly powerful tool and much of that power is 
> > > hidden away.
> > > 
> > > What version of Total Recorder are you using by the way?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 1/11/2017 6:16 AM, Andy wrote:
> > >> Hi Dane.
> > >> 
> > >> I don't set TR to do anything.  When I launch it, JAWS announces, 
> > >> press the space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a good 
> > >> quality WAV file, of the show that I'm listening to.
> > >> 
> > >> I just was not sure if I  could be doing this job of recording better.
> > >> 
> > >> In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320 kbps 
> > >> and if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at the 
> > >> same quality.
> > >> 
> > >> I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream the 
> > >> show, but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record 
> > >> directly from Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio?
> > >> 
> > >> Am I right?  Or is it very much the same thing whither I stream 
> > >> through Tap-in radio, the Accessable BBC Iplayer or Internet explorer.
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Incidentaly, BBC radio 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 are all termed "Global" 
> > >> stations, thus the 320 kbps.  However, my favourate station is Radio 
> > >> Scotland, but this is considered as

Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

[Dane Trethowan]

Why wouldn’t it work? Again this feature has absolutely nothing to do with 
operating system, Sound Card etc, its a Total Recorder Specific feature that 
just captures the stream and saves it to a file in the format the stream is on 
the Net, nothing more and nothing less.
I have the Total Recorder Video Pro edition and must do some experimenting with 
that to see if there’s a way of capturing links to Flash Player, I’m sure there 
is.

> On 11 Jan 2017, at 1:32 pm, Dean Martineau <top...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Does background recording work in Total Recorder in Windows 10?  That
> program used to work remarkably well in XP but I haven't had much success
> with it since and haven't used it much as a result.
> 
> Dean
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of John
> Covici
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:53 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
> 
> There are certain limitations for this -- I use it all the time, but
> it won't work on some streams like anything that uses flash, and it
> doesn't work on youtube links.
> 
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:09:09 -0500,
> Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> 
>> As far as I know the same holds true.
>> Now I?m doing this from memory as its been a while since I used Total
> Recorder, you go into Background recording where you?re prompted to enter an
> UR that links to a stream of a radio station on the net etc.
>> Total Recorder captures the data from this stream in real time thus
> avoiding the Sound Card completely so its just total recorder saving the
> data from the stream to the computer, nothing more and nothing less.
>> You can open url?s or streams in Total Recorder for listening in the same
> way from the File Menu.
>> 
>>> On 11 Jan 2017, at 12:01 pm, Tom Kaufman <tomca...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have a question for Dane: you say you can have TR record and not have
> the screen reader interfere with anything.  I have the standard version of
> TR, so does the same hold true here?  And if so, how is this done? 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tom Kaufman
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
> Trethowan
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:14 PM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
>>> 
>>> I'm meerly making a suggestion which would save you heaps of time and 
>>> frustration in the end for several reasons.
>>> 
>>> What you're doing at the moment is known as a software recording and 
>>> this may mean that other audio surces could be heard in the recording 
>>> itself such as system sounds from your computer or even your Screen
> Reader.
>>> 
>>> If you Capture the stream as I outlined then the pricess is completely 
>>> independent of your Sound card thus you can carry on with other 
>>> activities on your computer, have your Screen Reader ttalk to its hearts
> 
>>> content etc.
>>> 
>>> Anyway how you do things is completely up to you but I do suggest you 
>>> read the primers on Total Recorders web page wich contain some great 
>>> information on this sort of thing.
>>> 
>>> Total Recorder is an incredibly powerful tool and much of that power is 
>>> hidden away.
>>> 
>>> What version of Total Recorder are you using by the way?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 1/11/2017 6:16 AM, Andy wrote:
>>>> Hi Dane.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't set TR to do anything.  When I launch it, JAWS announces, 
>>>> press the space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a good 
>>>> quality WAV file, of the show that I'm listening to.
>>>> 
>>>> I just was not sure if I  could be doing this job of recording better.
>>>> 
>>>> In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320 kbps 
>>>> and if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at the 
>>>> same quality.
>>>> 
>>>> I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream the 
>>>> show, but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record 
>>>> directly from Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio?
>>>> 
>>>> Am I right?  Or is it very much the same thing whither I stream 
>>>> through Tap-in radio, the Accessable BBC Iplayer or Internet explore

RE: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

[Dean Martineau]

Does background recording work in Total Recorder in Windows 10?  That
program used to work remarkably well in XP but I haven't had much success
with it since and haven't used it much as a result.

Dean


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:53 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

There are certain limitations for this -- I use it all the time, but
it won't work on some streams like anything that uses flash, and it
doesn't work on youtube links.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:09:09 -0500,
Dane Trethowan wrote:
> 
> As far as I know the same holds true.
> Now I?m doing this from memory as its been a while since I used Total
Recorder, you go into Background recording where you?re prompted to enter an
UR that links to a stream of a radio station on the net etc.
> Total Recorder captures the data from this stream in real time thus
avoiding the Sound Card completely so its just total recorder saving the
data from the stream to the computer, nothing more and nothing less.
> You can open url?s or streams in Total Recorder for listening in the same
way from the File Menu.
> 
> > On 11 Jan 2017, at 12:01 pm, Tom Kaufman <tomca...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > 
> > Have a question for Dane: you say you can have TR record and not have
the screen reader interfere with anything.  I have the standard version of
TR, so does the same hold true here?  And if so, how is this done? 
> > Thanks,
> > Tom Kaufman
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:14 PM
> > To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> > Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
> > 
> > I'm meerly making a suggestion which would save you heaps of time and 
> > frustration in the end for several reasons.
> > 
> > What you're doing at the moment is known as a software recording and 
> > this may mean that other audio surces could be heard in the recording 
> > itself such as system sounds from your computer or even your Screen
Reader.
> > 
> > If you Capture the stream as I outlined then the pricess is completely 
> > independent of your Sound card thus you can carry on with other 
> > activities on your computer, have your Screen Reader ttalk to its hearts

> > content etc.
> > 
> > Anyway how you do things is completely up to you but I do suggest you 
> > read the primers on Total Recorders web page wich contain some great 
> > information on this sort of thing.
> > 
> > Total Recorder is an incredibly powerful tool and much of that power is 
> > hidden away.
> > 
> > What version of Total Recorder are you using by the way?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 1/11/2017 6:16 AM, Andy wrote:
> >> Hi Dane.
> >> 
> >> I don't set TR to do anything.  When I launch it, JAWS announces, 
> >> press the space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a good 
> >> quality WAV file, of the show that I'm listening to.
> >> 
> >> I just was not sure if I  could be doing this job of recording better.
> >> 
> >> In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320 kbps 
> >> and if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at the 
> >> same quality.
> >> 
> >> I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream the 
> >> show, but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record 
> >> directly from Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio?
> >> 
> >> Am I right?  Or is it very much the same thing whither I stream 
> >> through Tap-in radio, the Accessable BBC Iplayer or Internet explorer.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Incidentaly, BBC radio 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 are all termed "Global" 
> >> stations, thus the 320 kbps.  However, my favourate station is Radio 
> >> Scotland, but this is considered as a Reginal station and only 
> >> streamed at 128 kbps.
> >> 
> >> So much for equality, where my national station is obviously inferiour 
> >> to all the other "British" Broadcasting Company stations!
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Very best wishes.
> >> 
> >> Andy.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> >> <grtd...@internode.on.net>
> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <

Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

[Dane Trethowan]

Of course not, there needs to be a direct link to the sound source and - in the 
case of BBC Music - there is one, a very nice 320K source.

> On 11 Jan 2017, at 12:53 pm, John Covici <cov...@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> 
> There are certain limitations for this -- I use it all the time, but
> it won't work on some streams like anything that uses flash, and it
> doesn't work on youtube links.
> 
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:09:09 -0500,
> Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> 
>> As far as I know the same holds true.
>> Now I’m doing this from memory as its been a while since I used Total 
>> Recorder, you go into Background recording where you’re prompted to enter an 
>> UR that links to a stream of a radio station on the net etc.
>> Total Recorder captures the data from this stream in real time thus avoiding 
>> the Sound Card completely so its just total recorder saving the data from 
>> the stream to the computer, nothing more and nothing less.
>> You can open url’s or streams in Total Recorder for listening in the same 
>> way from the File Menu.
>> 
>>> On 11 Jan 2017, at 12:01 pm, Tom Kaufman <tomca...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have a question for Dane: you say you can have TR record and not have the 
>>> screen reader interfere with anything.  I have the standard version of TR, 
>>> so does the same hold true here?  And if so, how is this done? 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tom Kaufman
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
>>> Trethowan
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:14 PM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
>>> 
>>> I'm meerly making a suggestion which would save you heaps of time and 
>>> frustration in the end for several reasons.
>>> 
>>> What you're doing at the moment is known as a software recording and 
>>> this may mean that other audio surces could be heard in the recording 
>>> itself such as system sounds from your computer or even your Screen Reader.
>>> 
>>> If you Capture the stream as I outlined then the pricess is completely 
>>> independent of your Sound card thus you can carry on with other 
>>> activities on your computer, have your Screen Reader ttalk to its hearts 
>>> content etc.
>>> 
>>> Anyway how you do things is completely up to you but I do suggest you 
>>> read the primers on Total Recorders web page wich contain some great 
>>> information on this sort of thing.
>>> 
>>> Total Recorder is an incredibly powerful tool and much of that power is 
>>> hidden away.
>>> 
>>> What version of Total Recorder are you using by the way?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 1/11/2017 6:16 AM, Andy wrote:
>>>> Hi Dane.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't set TR to do anything.  When I launch it, JAWS announces, 
>>>> press the space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a good 
>>>> quality WAV file, of the show that I'm listening to.
>>>> 
>>>> I just was not sure if I  could be doing this job of recording better.
>>>> 
>>>> In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320 kbps 
>>>> and if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at the 
>>>> same quality.
>>>> 
>>>> I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream the 
>>>> show, but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record 
>>>> directly from Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio?
>>>> 
>>>> Am I right?  Or is it very much the same thing whither I stream 
>>>> through Tap-in radio, the Accessable BBC Iplayer or Internet explorer.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Incidentaly, BBC radio 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 are all termed "Global" 
>>>> stations, thus the 320 kbps.  However, my favourate station is Radio 
>>>> Scotland, but this is considered as a Reginal station and only 
>>>> streamed at 128 kbps.
>>>> 
>>>> So much for equality, where my national station is obviously inferiour 
>>>> to all the other "British" Broadcasting Company stations!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Very best wishes.
>>>> 
>>>> Andy.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message - Fr

Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

[John Covici]

There are certain limitations for this -- I use it all the time, but
it won't work on some streams like anything that uses flash, and it
doesn't work on youtube links.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:09:09 -0500,
Dane Trethowan wrote:
> 
> As far as I know the same holds true.
> Now I’m doing this from memory as its been a while since I used Total 
> Recorder, you go into Background recording where you’re prompted to enter an 
> UR that links to a stream of a radio station on the net etc.
> Total Recorder captures the data from this stream in real time thus avoiding 
> the Sound Card completely so its just total recorder saving the data from the 
> stream to the computer, nothing more and nothing less.
> You can open url’s or streams in Total Recorder for listening in the same way 
> from the File Menu.
> 
> > On 11 Jan 2017, at 12:01 pm, Tom Kaufman <tomca...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > 
> > Have a question for Dane: you say you can have TR record and not have the 
> > screen reader interfere with anything.  I have the standard version of TR, 
> > so does the same hold true here?  And if so, how is this done? 
> > Thanks,
> > Tom Kaufman
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> > Trethowan
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:14 PM
> > To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> > Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
> > 
> > I'm meerly making a suggestion which would save you heaps of time and 
> > frustration in the end for several reasons.
> > 
> > What you're doing at the moment is known as a software recording and 
> > this may mean that other audio surces could be heard in the recording 
> > itself such as system sounds from your computer or even your Screen Reader.
> > 
> > If you Capture the stream as I outlined then the pricess is completely 
> > independent of your Sound card thus you can carry on with other 
> > activities on your computer, have your Screen Reader ttalk to its hearts 
> > content etc.
> > 
> > Anyway how you do things is completely up to you but I do suggest you 
> > read the primers on Total Recorders web page wich contain some great 
> > information on this sort of thing.
> > 
> > Total Recorder is an incredibly powerful tool and much of that power is 
> > hidden away.
> > 
> > What version of Total Recorder are you using by the way?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 1/11/2017 6:16 AM, Andy wrote:
> >> Hi Dane.
> >> 
> >> I don't set TR to do anything.  When I launch it, JAWS announces, 
> >> press the space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a good 
> >> quality WAV file, of the show that I'm listening to.
> >> 
> >> I just was not sure if I  could be doing this job of recording better.
> >> 
> >> In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320 kbps 
> >> and if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at the 
> >> same quality.
> >> 
> >> I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream the 
> >> show, but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record 
> >> directly from Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio?
> >> 
> >> Am I right?  Or is it very much the same thing whither I stream 
> >> through Tap-in radio, the Accessable BBC Iplayer or Internet explorer.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Incidentaly, BBC radio 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 are all termed "Global" 
> >> stations, thus the 320 kbps.  However, my favourate station is Radio 
> >> Scotland, but this is considered as a Reginal station and only 
> >> streamed at 128 kbps.
> >> 
> >> So much for equality, where my national station is obviously inferiour 
> >> to all the other "British" Broadcasting Company stations!
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Very best wishes.
> >> 
> >> Andy.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> >> <grtd...@internode.on.net>
> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:47 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
> >> 
> >> 
> >> If you’ve set Total Recorder to capture a stream then the bit rate the 
> >> stream is transmitted in will be captured.
> >> For example let’s suppose you’re recording BBC Music? They ha

Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

[Dane Trethowan]

As far as I know the same holds true.
Now I’m doing this from memory as its been a while since I used Total Recorder, 
you go into Background recording where you’re prompted to enter an UR that 
links to a stream of a radio station on the net etc.
Total Recorder captures the data from this stream in real time thus avoiding 
the Sound Card completely so its just total recorder saving the data from the 
stream to the computer, nothing more and nothing less.
You can open url’s or streams in Total Recorder for listening in the same way 
from the File Menu.

> On 11 Jan 2017, at 12:01 pm, Tom Kaufman <tomca...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Have a question for Dane: you say you can have TR record and not have the 
> screen reader interfere with anything.  I have the standard version of TR, so 
> does the same hold true here?  And if so, how is this done? 
> Thanks,
> Tom Kaufman
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:14 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
> 
> I'm meerly making a suggestion which would save you heaps of time and 
> frustration in the end for several reasons.
> 
> What you're doing at the moment is known as a software recording and 
> this may mean that other audio surces could be heard in the recording 
> itself such as system sounds from your computer or even your Screen Reader.
> 
> If you Capture the stream as I outlined then the pricess is completely 
> independent of your Sound card thus you can carry on with other 
> activities on your computer, have your Screen Reader ttalk to its hearts 
> content etc.
> 
> Anyway how you do things is completely up to you but I do suggest you 
> read the primers on Total Recorders web page wich contain some great 
> information on this sort of thing.
> 
> Total Recorder is an incredibly powerful tool and much of that power is 
> hidden away.
> 
> What version of Total Recorder are you using by the way?
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/11/2017 6:16 AM, Andy wrote:
>> Hi Dane.
>> 
>> I don't set TR to do anything.  When I launch it, JAWS announces, 
>> press the space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a good 
>> quality WAV file, of the show that I'm listening to.
>> 
>> I just was not sure if I  could be doing this job of recording better.
>> 
>> In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320 kbps 
>> and if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at the 
>> same quality.
>> 
>> I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream the 
>> show, but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record 
>> directly from Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio?
>> 
>> Am I right?  Or is it very much the same thing whither I stream 
>> through Tap-in radio, the Accessable BBC Iplayer or Internet explorer.
>> 
>> 
>> Incidentaly, BBC radio 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 are all termed "Global" 
>> stations, thus the 320 kbps.  However, my favourate station is Radio 
>> Scotland, but this is considered as a Reginal station and only 
>> streamed at 128 kbps.
>> 
>> So much for equality, where my national station is obviously inferiour 
>> to all the other "British" Broadcasting Company stations!
>> 
>> 
>> Very best wishes.
>> 
>> Andy.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>> <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:47 AM
>> Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
>> 
>> 
>> If you’ve set Total Recorder to capture a stream then the bit rate the 
>> stream is transmitted in will be captured.
>> For example let’s suppose you’re recording BBC Music? They have a 320K 
>> stream so you would input this into Total Recorder directly rather 
>> than use Tapin Radio.
>> Total recorder would capture the stream as is and thus save it to a file.
>> You can set conditions and so on to control the name of that file and 
>> so on.
>> 
>>> On 10 Jan 2017, at 7:38 am, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> 
>>> I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and 
>>> total recorder professional to record the show.
>>> 
>>> BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wonderin

RE: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

[Tom Kaufman]

Have a question for Dane: you say you can have TR record and not have the 
screen reader interfere with anything.  I have the standard version of TR, so 
does the same hold true here?  And if so, how is this done? 
Thanks,
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:14 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

I'm meerly making a suggestion which would save you heaps of time and 
frustration in the end for several reasons.

What you're doing at the moment is known as a software recording and 
this may mean that other audio surces could be heard in the recording 
itself such as system sounds from your computer or even your Screen Reader.

If you Capture the stream as I outlined then the pricess is completely 
independent of your Sound card thus you can carry on with other 
activities on your computer, have your Screen Reader ttalk to its hearts 
content etc.

Anyway how you do things is completely up to you but I do suggest you 
read the primers on Total Recorders web page wich contain some great 
information on this sort of thing.

Total Recorder is an incredibly powerful tool and much of that power is 
hidden away.

What version of Total Recorder are you using by the way?



On 1/11/2017 6:16 AM, Andy wrote:
> Hi Dane.
>
> I don't set TR to do anything.  When I launch it, JAWS announces, 
> press the space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a good 
> quality WAV file, of the show that I'm listening to.
>
> I just was not sure if I  could be doing this job of recording better.
>
> In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320 kbps 
> and if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at the 
> same quality.
>
> I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream the 
> show, but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record 
> directly from Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio?
>
> Am I right?  Or is it very much the same thing whither I stream 
> through Tap-in radio, the Accessable BBC Iplayer or Internet explorer.
>
>
> Incidentaly, BBC radio 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 are all termed "Global" 
> stations, thus the 320 kbps.  However, my favourate station is Radio 
> Scotland, but this is considered as a Reginal station and only 
> streamed at 128 kbps.
>
> So much for equality, where my national station is obviously inferiour 
> to all the other "British" Broadcasting Company stations!
>
>
> Very best wishes.
>
> Andy.
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> <grtd...@internode.on.net>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:47 AM
> Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
>
>
> If you’ve set Total Recorder to capture a stream then the bit rate the 
> stream is transmitted in will be captured.
> For example let’s suppose you’re recording BBC Music? They have a 320K 
> stream so you would input this into Total Recorder directly rather 
> than use Tapin Radio.
> Total recorder would capture the stream as is and thus save it to a file.
> You can set conditions and so on to control the name of that file and 
> so on.
>
>> On 10 Jan 2017, at 7:38 am, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and 
>> total recorder professional to record the show.
>>
>> BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wondering 
>> if perhaps I'm capturing it at it's best.
>>
>> I have had a look within Total Recorder settings to see if perchance 
>> there was a box for adjusting the quality or bit rate of recording, 
>> but I cannot find it.
>>
>> Anyone know how I can ensure that I'm recording at the very best 
>> posible quality available to me.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Very best wishes.
>>
>> Andy.
>>
>> From Scotland with Love.
>>
>
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of 
> the halfwits in this world behind.
>
>
>
>

Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

[Dane Trethowan]

I'm meerly making a suggestion which would save you heaps of time and 
frustration in the end for several reasons.


What you're doing at the moment is known as a software recording and 
this may mean that other audio surces could be heard in the recording 
itself such as system sounds from your computer or even your Screen Reader.


If you Capture the stream as I outlined then the pricess is completely 
independent of your Sound card thus you can carry on with other 
activities on your computer, have your Screen Reader ttalk to its hearts 
content etc.


Anyway how you do things is completely up to you but I do suggest you 
read the primers on Total Recorders web page wich contain some great 
information on this sort of thing.


Total Recorder is an incredibly powerful tool and much of that power is 
hidden away.


What version of Total Recorder are you using by the way?



On 1/11/2017 6:16 AM, Andy wrote:

Hi Dane.

I don't set TR to do anything.  When I launch it, JAWS announces, 
press the space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a good 
quality WAV file, of the show that I'm listening to.


I just was not sure if I  could be doing this job of recording better.

In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320 kbps 
and if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at the 
same quality.


I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream the 
show, but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record 
directly from Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio?


Am I right?  Or is it very much the same thing whither I stream 
through Tap-in radio, the Accessable BBC Iplayer or Internet explorer.



Incidentaly, BBC radio 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 are all termed "Global" 
stations, thus the 320 kbps.  However, my favourate station is Radio 
Scotland, but this is considered as a Reginal station and only 
streamed at 128 kbps.


So much for equality, where my national station is obviously inferiour 
to all the other "British" Broadcasting Company stations!



Very best wishes.

Andy.





- Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
<grtd...@internode.on.net>

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:47 AM
Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder


If you’ve set Total Recorder to capture a stream then the bit rate the 
stream is transmitted in will be captured.
For example let’s suppose you’re recording BBC Music? They have a 320K 
stream so you would input this into Total Recorder directly rather 
than use Tapin Radio.

Total recorder would capture the stream as is and thus save it to a file.
You can set conditions and so on to control the name of that file and 
so on.



On 10 Jan 2017, at 7:38 am, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote:

Hi all.

I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and 
total recorder professional to record the show.


BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wondering 
if perhaps I'm capturing it at it's best.


I have had a look within Total Recorder settings to see if perchance 
there was a box for adjusting the quality or bit rate of recording, 
but I cannot find it.


Anyone know how I can ensure that I'm recording at the very best 
posible quality available to me.


Thanks in advance.

Very best wishes.

Andy.

From Scotland with Love.



**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of 
the halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

[Dane Trethowan]

Just to summarise.

The method I suggested for captuing BBC Music is just that and has 
nothing whatever to do with the Sound Card because Total Recorder is 
actually capturing the stream as it comes down from the Internet, 
nothing more and nothing less thus what you're having saved to your 
computer is BBC Music, in its original format without conversion, 
without level adjustment or contamination of any kind, just the stream 
as BBC sends it to the web.


If you want to set up Bit Rates and so on - then you can do all that 
from Recording Source And Parameters which can be accessed from Total 
Recorder in a variety of ways but you need not worry yourself with this 
for the purpose you ontlined,.




On 1/11/2017 6:03 AM, Andy wrote:

Hi Norma.

Thanks for the advice, but Dane, who I will be wrighting to after this 
message, is suggesting that TR will record whatever is coming through 
the sound card, thus, I need not make any adjustments, with respect to 
streaming from the BBC in any case.


However, in normal terms if I was wanting to use TR for making brand 
new recordings from my PC, then perhaps setting a required bit rate 
would need to be done.


More homework on this I'm thinking, ha!

Thanks for your assistance.

Andy.
- Original Message - From: "Norma A. Boge" <nab...@mchsi.com>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:52 AM
Subject: RE: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder



Andy, if you use the recording wizard it will walk you through all the
settings for bit rate and such. This isn't the only way to set these 
values

but it's quick and easy. If memory serves it can be found under tools. I
apologize if this isn't correct as I'm not at my studio Pc right now. 
HTH

Norma


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 2:39 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

Hi all.

I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and 
total

recorder professional to record the show.

BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wondering if
perhaps I'm capturing it at it's best.

I have had a look within Total Recorder settings to see if perchance 
there
was a box for adjusting the quality or bit rate of recording, but I 
cannot

find it.

Anyone know how I can ensure that I'm recording at the very best posible
quality available to me.

Thanks in advance.

Very best wishes.

Andy.

From Scotland with Love.

Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

[Andy]

Hi Tom.

This whole area of recording is just a hobby for me.  I don't know the 
technical side of things.


For example, is it only my imagination but does a WAV format file not sound 
better than an MP3 file?


Total recorder records in Wave.  I then use Goldwave to double the volume 
and then maximise it and it really sounds quite good, then \I save it as an 
EMP file, once my editing has been completed.




I'm just learning and trying to get the best out of my recordings but don't 
have the skills yet.


Very best wishes.

Andy.
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" <tomca...@comcast.net>

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:55 PM
Subject: RE: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder


Just a note in case it matters: you don't necessarily have to record and 
have the file be a WAB file as TR does allow for one to record in the MP3 
format, although off the top of my head, I don't remember how you do it as 
it has been quite a while since I have messed with Total Recorder!  Tapin 
Radio also will record audio streaming, but you probably already know this.

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:17 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

Hi Dane.

I don't set TR to do anything.  When I launch it, JAWS announces, press the
space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a good quality WAV file,
of the show that I'm listening to.

I just was not sure if I  could be doing this job of recording better.

In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320 kbps and
if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at the same
quality.

I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream the show,
but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record directly from
Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio?

Am I right?  Or is it very much the same thing whither I stream through
Tap-in radio, the Accessable BBC Iplayer or Internet explorer.


Incidentaly, BBC radio 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 are all termed "Global" stations,
thus the 320 kbps.  However, my favourate station is Radio Scotland, but
this is considered as a Reginal station and only streamed at 128 kbps.

So much for equality, where my national station is obviously inferiour to
all the other "British" Broadcasting Company stations!


Very best wishes.

Andy.





- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtd...@internode.on.net>

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:47 AM
Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder


If you’ve set Total Recorder to capture a stream then the bit rate the
stream is transmitted in will be captured.
For example let’s suppose you’re recording BBC Music? They have a 320K
stream so you would input this into Total Recorder directly rather than use
Tapin Radio.
Total recorder would capture the stream as is and thus save it to a file.
You can set conditions and so on to control the name of that file and so on.


On 10 Jan 2017, at 7:38 am, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote:

Hi all.

I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and
total recorder professional to record the show.

BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wondering if
perhaps I'm capturing it at it's best.

I have had a look within Total Recorder settings to see if perchance there
was a box for adjusting the quality or bit rate of recording, but I cannot
find it.

Anyone know how I can ensure that I'm recording at the very best posible
quality available to me.

Thanks in advance.

Very best wishes.

Andy.

From Scotland with Love.



**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the
halfwits in this world behind.

RE: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

[Tom Kaufman]

Just a note in case it matters: you don't necessarily have to record and have 
the file be a WAB file as TR does allow for one to record in the MP3 format, 
although off the top of my head, I don't remember how you do it as it has been 
quite a while since I have messed with Total Recorder!  Tapin Radio also will 
record audio streaming, but you probably already know this.
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:17 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

Hi Dane.

I don't set TR to do anything.  When I launch it, JAWS announces, press the 
space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a good quality WAV file, 
of the show that I'm listening to.

I just was not sure if I  could be doing this job of recording better.

In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320 kbps and 
if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at the same 
quality.

I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream the show, 
but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record directly from 
Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio?

Am I right?  Or is it very much the same thing whither I stream through 
Tap-in radio, the Accessable BBC Iplayer or Internet explorer.


Incidentaly, BBC radio 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 are all termed "Global" stations, 
thus the 320 kbps.  However, my favourate station is Radio Scotland, but 
this is considered as a Reginal station and only streamed at 128 kbps.

So much for equality, where my national station is obviously inferiour to 
all the other "British" Broadcasting Company stations!


Very best wishes.

Andy.





- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtd...@internode.on.net>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:47 AM
Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder


If you’ve set Total Recorder to capture a stream then the bit rate the 
stream is transmitted in will be captured.
For example let’s suppose you’re recording BBC Music? They have a 320K 
stream so you would input this into Total Recorder directly rather than use 
Tapin Radio.
Total recorder would capture the stream as is and thus save it to a file.
You can set conditions and so on to control the name of that file and so on.

> On 10 Jan 2017, at 7:38 am, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all.
>
> I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and 
> total recorder professional to record the show.
>
> BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wondering if 
> perhaps I'm capturing it at it's best.
>
> I have had a look within Total Recorder settings to see if perchance there 
> was a box for adjusting the quality or bit rate of recording, but I cannot 
> find it.
>
> Anyone know how I can ensure that I'm recording at the very best posible 
> quality available to me.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Very best wishes.
>
> Andy.
>
> From Scotland with Love.
>

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

[Andy]

Hi Dane.

I don't set TR to do anything.  When I launch it, JAWS announces, press the 
space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a good quality WAV file, 
of the show that I'm listening to.


I just was not sure if I  could be doing this job of recording better.

In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320 kbps and 
if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at the same 
quality.


I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream the show, 
but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record directly from 
Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio?


Am I right?  Or is it very much the same thing whither I stream through 
Tap-in radio, the Accessable BBC Iplayer or Internet explorer.



Incidentaly, BBC radio 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 are all termed "Global" stations, 
thus the 320 kbps.  However, my favourate station is Radio Scotland, but 
this is considered as a Reginal station and only streamed at 128 kbps.


So much for equality, where my national station is obviously inferiour to 
all the other "British" Broadcasting Company stations!



Very best wishes.

Andy.





- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtd...@internode.on.net>

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:47 AM
Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder


If you’ve set Total Recorder to capture a stream then the bit rate the 
stream is transmitted in will be captured.
For example let’s suppose you’re recording BBC Music? They have a 320K 
stream so you would input this into Total Recorder directly rather than use 
Tapin Radio.

Total recorder would capture the stream as is and thus save it to a file.
You can set conditions and so on to control the name of that file and so on.


On 10 Jan 2017, at 7:38 am, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote:

Hi all.

I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and 
total recorder professional to record the show.


BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wondering if 
perhaps I'm capturing it at it's best.


I have had a look within Total Recorder settings to see if perchance there 
was a box for adjusting the quality or bit rate of recording, but I cannot 
find it.


Anyone know how I can ensure that I'm recording at the very best posible 
quality available to me.


Thanks in advance.

Very best wishes.

Andy.

From Scotland with Love.



**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

[Andy]

Hi Norma.

Thanks for the advice, but Dane, who I will be wrighting to after this 
message, is suggesting that TR will record whatever is coming through the 
sound card, thus, I need not make any adjustments, with respect to streaming 
from the BBC in any case.


However, in normal terms if I was wanting to use TR for making brand new 
recordings from my PC, then perhaps setting a required bit rate would need 
to be done.


More homework on this I'm thinking, ha!

Thanks for your assistance.

Andy.
- Original Message - 
From: "Norma A. Boge" <nab...@mchsi.com>

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:52 AM
Subject: RE: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder



Andy, if you use the recording wizard it will walk you through all the
settings for bit rate and such. This isn't the only way to set these 
values

but it's quick and easy. If memory serves it can be found under tools. I
apologize if this isn't correct as I'm not at my studio Pc right now. HTH
Norma


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 2:39 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

Hi all.

I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and 
total

recorder professional to record the show.

BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wondering if
perhaps I'm capturing it at it's best.

I have had a look within Total Recorder settings to see if perchance there
was a box for adjusting the quality or bit rate of recording, but I cannot
find it.

Anyone know how I can ensure that I'm recording at the very best posible
quality available to me.

Thanks in advance.

Very best wishes.

Andy.

From Scotland with Love.

Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

[Dane Trethowan]

If he’s capturing BBC Music then he won’t even have to do that.

> On 10 Jan 2017, at 7:52 pm, Norma A. Boge  wrote:
> 
> Andy, if you use the recording wizard it will walk you through all the
> settings for bit rate and such. This isn't the only way to set these values
> but it's quick and easy. If memory serves it can be found under tools. I
> apologize if this isn't correct as I'm not at my studio Pc right now. HTH
> Norma
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 2:39 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
> 
> Hi all.
> 
> I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and total
> recorder professional to record the show.
> 
> BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wondering if
> perhaps I'm capturing it at it's best.
> 
> I have had a look within Total Recorder settings to see if perchance there
> was a box for adjusting the quality or bit rate of recording, but I cannot
> find it.
> 
> Anyone know how I can ensure that I'm recording at the very best posible
> quality available to me.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Very best wishes.
> 
> Andy.
> 
> From Scotland with Love.
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

RE: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

[Norma A. Boge]

Andy, if you use the recording wizard it will walk you through all the
settings for bit rate and such. This isn't the only way to set these values
but it's quick and easy. If memory serves it can be found under tools. I
apologize if this isn't correct as I'm not at my studio Pc right now. HTH
Norma


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 2:39 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

Hi all.

I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and total
recorder professional to record the show.

BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wondering if
perhaps I'm capturing it at it's best.

I have had a look within Total Recorder settings to see if perchance there
was a box for adjusting the quality or bit rate of recording, but I cannot
find it.

Anyone know how I can ensure that I'm recording at the very best posible
quality available to me.

Thanks in advance.

Very best wishes.

Andy.

>From Scotland with Love.

Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

[Dane Trethowan]

If you’ve set Total Recorder to capture a stream then the bit rate the stream 
is transmitted in will be captured.
For example let’s suppose you’re recording BBC Music? They have a 320K stream 
so you would input this into Total Recorder directly rather than use Tapin 
Radio.
Total recorder would capture the stream as is and thus save it to a file.
You can set conditions and so on to control the name of that file and so on.

> On 10 Jan 2017, at 7:38 am, Andy  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> 
> I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and total 
> recorder professional to record the show.
> 
> BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wondering if 
> perhaps I'm capturing it at it's best.
> 
> I have had a look within Total Recorder settings to see if perchance there 
> was a box for adjusting the quality or bit rate of recording, but I cannot 
> find it.
> 
> Anyone know how I can ensure that I'm recording at the very best posible 
> quality available to me.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Very best wishes.
> 
> Andy.
> 
> From Scotland with Love.
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder

[John Covici]

Is it not in recording source and parameters?

On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 15:38:57 -0500,
Andy wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> 
> I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and total 
> recorder professional to record the show.
> 
> BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wondering if 
> perhaps I'm capturing it at it's best.
> 
> I have had a look within Total Recorder settings to see if perchance there 
> was a box for adjusting the quality or bit rate of recording, but I cannot 
> find it.
> 
> Anyone know how I can ensure that I'm recording at the very best posible 
> quality available to me.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Very best wishes.
> 
> Andy.
> 
> From Scotland with Love.
> 
> 

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