Re: [pca] Missing sconadm on Solaris 10 1/13

2013-03-22 Thread Martin Paul
Am 21.03.2013 17:48, schrieb francis picabia: The strange thing is, I had this misplaced optimism that Ian Murdock would fix Sun's wacky series of patch tools with something fast and robust like dpkg or pkg-get. I was totally wrong. To be fair, they kind of did that in Solaris 11 (IPS/pkg).

Re: [pca] Missing sconadm on Solaris 10 1/13

2013-03-22 Thread Andy Fiddaman
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013, francis picabia wrote: ; On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Martin Paul martin.p...@univie.ac.at wrote: ; Am 21.03.2013 17:48, schrieb francis picabia: ; ; The strange thing is, I had this misplaced optimism that Ian Murdock ; would fix Sun's wacky series of patch tools

Re: [pca] Missing sconadm on Solaris 10 1/13

2013-03-22 Thread Jeremy Loukinas
Solaris 11 is a much better alternative for a number of reasons. I work for a large organization that has 1000's of Redhat / Suse linux servers. Managing them is a mess, yes they are easier to patch yum update etc.. but with Solaris 11 you have pkg update? It couldn't be easier. Suse and redhat

Re: [pca] Missing sconadm on Solaris 10 1/13

2013-03-22 Thread Lee, Jarrett
I wouldn't go so far as to call Linux junk, but I certainly understand the difference between Solaris and Linux. The big thing folks have to understand with Linux is that you don't run one big, reliable box. You run scores of smaller machines, usually virtual, and have it so scaled out that you

Re: [pca] Missing sconadm on Solaris 10 1/13

2013-03-22 Thread francis picabia
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Jeremy Loukinas sunad...@gmail.com wrote: Solaris 11 is a much better alternative for a number of reasons. I work for a large organization that has 1000's of Redhat / Suse linux servers. Managing them is a mess, yes they are easier to patch yum update etc.. but

Re: [pca] Missing sconadm on Solaris 10 1/13

2013-03-22 Thread Jeremy Loukinas
I also have redhatadmin@ if that helps. On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:19 PM, francis picabia fpica...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Jeremy Loukinas sunad...@gmail.com wrote: Solaris 11 is a much better alternative for a number of reasons. I work for a large organization

Re: [pca] Missing sconadm on Solaris 10 1/13

2013-03-22 Thread Lee, Jarrett
We pay less than $200 per Dell for annual hardware maintenance. Oracle is $1000 per server for hardware maintenance. We pay $60/year for Redhat update access (for University). Same update access plus support from Oracle is another $1000/year. There is no option for only software updates

Re: [pca] Missing sconadm on Solaris 10 1/13

2013-03-22 Thread Jeremy Loukinas
Patches are free for Sol x86 if you use Sun / Oracle hardware, no license cost. On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Lee, Jarrett jarrett@cedarcrestone.com wrote: We pay less than $200 per Dell for annual hardware maintenance. Oracle is $1000 per server for hardware maintenance. We pay

Re: [pca] Missing sconadm on Solaris 10 1/13

2013-03-22 Thread francis picabia
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Lee, Jarrett jarrett@cedarcrestone.com wrote: We pay less than $200 per Dell for annual hardware maintenance. Oracle is $1000 per server for hardware maintenance. We pay $60/year for Redhat update access (for University). Same update access plus support

Re: [pca] Missing sconadm on Solaris 10 1/13

2013-03-22 Thread Lee, Jarrett
We pay less than $200 per Dell for annual hardware maintenance. Oracle is $1000 per server for hardware maintenance. We pay $60/year for Redhat update access (for University). Same update access plus support from Oracle is another $1000/year. There is no option for only software updates

Re: [pca] Missing sconadm on Solaris 10 1/13

2013-03-22 Thread francis picabia
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Jeremy Loukinas sunad...@gmail.com wrote: Patches are free for Sol x86 if you use Sun / Oracle hardware, no license cost. I see only one license agreement for Sol 10/11 x86/sparc download page and it does not refer to x86 in the agreement.

Re: [pca] EXTERNAL: Re: Missing sconadm on Solaris 10 1/13

2013-03-22 Thread Wickline, Bob (N-STERLING COMPUTERS CORPORATION)
Patches are free for Sol x86 if you use Sun / Oracle hardware, no license cost. Only if you have said hardware under Premier Support... -- cat /dev/null SCO Group

Re: [pca] Missing sconadm on Solaris 10 1/13

2013-03-22 Thread Glenn Satchell
On Sat, March 23, 2013 5:28 am, Lee, Jarrett wrote: We pay less than $200 per Dell for annual hardware maintenance. Oracle is $1000 per server for hardware maintenance. We pay $60/year for Redhat update access (for University). Same update access plus support from Oracle is another