Re: [PD-dev] BUG: namespace prefixes broken in 0.40

2006-11-01 Thread carmen
On Thu Nov 02, 2006 at 02:02:52PM +0800, Chris McCormick wrote: > On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 10:39:50PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > >On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > >I advocate use of consistent syntax all over pd. Consistency is > > >more important than minimality

Re: [PD-dev] BUG: namespace prefixes broken in 0.40

2006-11-01 Thread Chris McCormick
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 10:39:50PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >I advocate use of consistent syntax all over pd. Consistency is > >more important than minimality. If pd's syntax is too minimal, it > >encourages small syntax hacks t

[PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1371511 ] declaration of `y1' shadows a global declaration

2006-11-01 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1371511, was opened at 2005-12-02 02:41 Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by eighthave You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1371511&group_id=55736 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comme

Re: [PD-dev] BUG: namespace prefixes broken in 0.40

2006-11-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 1, 2006, at 1:28 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: Well, 'declare' actually sets the patch up to do the path and lib fixes before it loads any objects (including the declare itself). Ah, excellent! I see, [declare] always inserts itself at the top of the object list in the file. I'm in

Re: [PD-dev] BUG: namespace prefixes broken in 0.40

2006-11-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 1, 2006, at 6:49 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: First off, how would this be different than [declare -lib]? Actually, what does [declare] do?... I just remember some of the discussions about it vaguely, but if something's been implemen

Re: [PD-dev] BUG: namespace prefixes broken in 0.40

2006-11-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 1, 2006, at 7:30 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: [declare -import (foo bar)] <- GF-style nested lists [declare -import foo bar] <- use dash-prefixed symbols as delimiters [declare, import foo bar] <- use comma as delimiter One very

[PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1371511 ] declaration of `y1' shadows a global declaration

2006-11-01 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1371511, was opened at 2005-12-01 23:41 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by sf-robot You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1371511&group_id=55736 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment t

Re: [PD-dev] BUG: namespace prefixes broken in 0.40

2006-11-01 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: [declare -import (foo bar)] <- GF-style nested lists [declare -import foo bar] <- use dash-prefixed symbols as delimiters [declare, import foo bar] <- use comma as delimiter One very important aspect of Pd is its very minimal syntax. It de

Re: [PD-dev] BUG: namespace prefixes broken in 0.40

2006-11-01 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: First off, how would this be different than [declare -lib]? Actually, what does [declare] do?... I just remember some of the discussions about it vaguely, but if something's been implemented in pd lately, I haven't tried it. Personally, I t

Re: [PD-dev] BUG: namespace prefixes broken in 0.40

2006-11-01 Thread Miller Puckette
Well, 'declare' actually sets the patch up to do the path and lib fixes before it loads any objects (including the declare itself). I'm in agreement that the syntax is strange. I preferred to use a single name "declare" in order not to hog up any more new names than necessary. Perhaps a better sy

Re: [PD-dev] BUG: namespace prefixes broken in 0.40

2006-11-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 1, 2006, at 9:02 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Then to make iemlib/split.pd_darwin work as [split], one would use [declare iemlib] or [import iemlib]. Syntax suggestion: what a

Re: [PD-dev] BUG: namespace prefixes broken in 0.40

2006-11-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 1, 2006, at 6:29 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Then to make iemlib/split.pd_darwin work as [split], one would use [declare iemlib] or [import iemlib]. Syntax suggestion: what about [declare -import iemlib]? Fir

debugging WAS: [PD-dev] Inconsistency in behaviour using Gem... my fault?

2006-11-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
First off, its helpful to split off multiple questions into multiple emails. Most people don't expect a new topic at the bottom of a long email. If you write really long ones like this, then you're questions will most likely be overlooked. I skimmed to the bottom and saw the stuff abou

Re: [PD-dev] BUG: namespace prefixes broken in 0.40

2006-11-01 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Then to make iemlib/split.pd_darwin work as [split], one would use [declare iemlib] or [import iemlib]. Syntax suggestion: what about [declare -import iemlib]? Some consensus on how

Re: [PD-dev] BUG: namespace prefixes broken in 0.40

2006-11-01 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Then to make iemlib/split.pd_darwin work as [split], one would use > [declare iemlib] or [import iemlib]. Syntax suggestion: what about [declare -import iemlib]? Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footi

[PD-dev] Inconsistency in behaviour using Gem... my fault?

2006-11-01 Thread Nick Bailey
Hi pd community. I have a suspected bug but before I raise it with the Mac developers, I thought I'd ask some experts to make sure it isn't my fault. Using pd 0.39-2 on Linux (Debian Sid) to do my development, but wanting to deploy on my Mac Powerbook using "Pd-extended" 0.39-2 beta4 from