[PD-dev] Re: PD-cvs Digest, Vol 21, Issue 30

2006-11-29 Thread Thomas Grill
Hi Mathieu, i have been following the latst cvs changes and it seems, you are again beautifying the codebase. Please identify the parts that you consider that I'm just beautifying, apart from the files that don't belong to your part of devel_0_39. Actually, you should know what you

Re: [PD-dev] Re: PD-cvs Digest, Vol 21, Issue 30

2006-11-29 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo you 2 ! How about a desire branch? Well, if you don't identify those specific parts that are a problem to you, and instead just quote the whole 200k digest, there's not much helping me to comply with your wishes, so I wouldn't have a choice, really. please - not one more branch !!!

[PD-dev] Re: PD-cvs Digest, Vol 21, Issue 30

2006-11-29 Thread Thomas Grill
While i don't see what that feature might be in these code excerpts, except the elimination of an unneeded variable and reformatting, i normally don't spend my time proof-reading devel_0_39. Anyway, i hope you know what i mean. Merging in 0.40 could be beneficial for all of us, and i it

Re: [PD-dev] bug I introduced in devel_0_39

2006-11-29 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: [...] because they're patching a bug somewhere else in the code, the part where the variable called newest is assigned the result of a t_newmethod, _except_ for the builtin selectors. I'm fixing the problem today. I fixed the problem; we're back

Re: [PD-dev] Fwd: PD-cvs Digest, Vol 21, Issue 29

2006-11-29 Thread Tim Blechmann
On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 17:24 +0100, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: Tim Blechmann wrote: On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 12:31 +0100, Thomas Grill wrote: Hi all, would it be possible to exclude the autobuild results from this digest, like e.g. by making a separate mailing for that. It's has become

Re: [PD-dev] Re: PD-cvs Digest, Vol 21, Issue 30

2006-11-29 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Georg Holzmann wrote: Hallo you 2 ! Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Well, if you don't identify those specific parts that are a problem to you, and instead just quote the whole 200k digest, there's not much helping me to comply with your wishes, so I wouldn't have a choice,

[PD-dev] ChangeLogs

2006-11-29 Thread carmen
ive found the file src/ChangeLog on the devel_0_39 branch, which contains some information on ImPd 0.37 through DesireData 0.39. are the changes from the devel branch documented somewhere? things like the scheduler, audio interfaces, SIMD/vectorization/memory-alignment, whatever else may be

Re: [PD-dev] Re: PD-cvs Digest, Vol 21, Issue 30

2006-11-29 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Most CVS branches ever made are not meant to be merged back in. (Which CVS repositories have you used apart from CVS's ?) typo. should've been: Most CVS branches ever made are not meant to be merged back in. (Which CVS repositories have you used

[PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1601850 ] [vcf_filter~] without arguments crashes Pd

2006-11-29 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1601850, was opened at 2006-11-23 17:17 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by zmoelnig You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=478070aid=1601850group_id=55736 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment

Re: [PD-dev] Re: PD-cvs Digest, Vol 21, Issue 30

2006-11-29 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! We already have two devel_0_39, separated not by cvs but by #ifdef and makefiles. Now it's getting somewhat cumbersome for me, but it seems that in addition to that, it's getting somewhat cumbersome for the only person (?) who still works on devel_0_39 outside of DesireData. Well,

Re: [PD-dev] Re: PD-cvs Digest, Vol 21, Issue 30

2006-11-29 Thread Thomas Grill
First, i would be extremely cautious about making strange assumptions about other people's problems. Second, i think the whole case will solve itself shortly, because after the merge a devel branch will probably not be called devel_0_39 any more. It may also be a move back to more compatibility

[PD-dev] pool files: UTF-8 encoding

2006-11-29 Thread Thomas Grill
Hi all, trying to fix loading/saving of non-ASCII characters in pool files. In the future, text files will still be saved in the native encoding, but XML will be UTF-8. Since i'm not very linux-savvy: I guess the default code table used for PD patchers is the same as being used for the

Re: [PD-dev] Re: PD-cvs Digest, Vol 21, Issue 30

2006-11-29 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! Mathieu Bouchard schrieb: [...] 1. I had the delusion that there were more developers working on devel_0_39, but I hadn't counted. Turned out that it wasn't true. yes, but when there are more and more branches every developer will have it's own one and it's much more difficult

Re: [PD-dev] Re: PD-cvs Digest, Vol 21, Issue 30

2006-11-29 Thread Tim Blechmann
wonderful ... matju/chun on desire, thomas on devel, miller on vanilla, me on pnpd ... that makes 5 devs for 3 branches and one rewrite ... what a wonderful waste of resources ... no please cool down ... one thing, that you people need to realize: open source software development doesn't work,

Re: [PD-dev] Re: PD-cvs Digest, Vol 21, Issue 30

2006-11-29 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Georg Holzmann wrote: yes, but when there are more and more branches every developer will have it's own one and it's much more difficult for new one to join (where?) Right, right, but then, how do we get out of that situation? we can't. So let's concentrate on things

Re: [PD-dev] Re: PD-cvs Digest, Vol 21, Issue 30

2006-11-29 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, Tim Blechmann wrote: matju/chun on desire, thomas on devel, miller on vanilla, me on pnpd ... that makes 5 devs for 3 branches and one rewrite ... You forgot to name MAX/MSP. what a wonderful waste of resources ... I don't feel guilty. no please cool down ... I

Re: [PD-dev] ChangeLogs

2006-11-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Here's Miller's ChangeLog: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Pd_documentation/x5.htm#s1 You can also generate ChangeLogs from CVS using this handy script: http://www.red-bean.com/cvs2cl/ .hc On Nov 29, 2006, at 1:16 PM, carmen wrote: ive found the file src/ChangeLog on the devel_0_39 branch, which

Re: [PD-dev] pool files: UTF-8 encoding

2006-11-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
locales is the library and tool that handles that stuff, IIRC. You'll want to look into the env vars LANG, LC_ALL, etc. I think that's supposed to be system-wide, but with all those grabbag distros based on the Linux kernel, you never know who implemented what and how in their bit.

Re: [PD-dev] Re: PD-cvs Digest, Vol 21, Issue 30

2006-11-29 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: A CVS branch is just a tool to manage code. I don't think we need to take it as any kind of social or political statement. We should use the tools to reduce friction as much as possible. You understand this. _ _ __ ___ _

Re: [PD-dev] Re: PD-cvs Digest, Vol 21, Issue 30

2006-11-29 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, Thomas Grill wrote: So far, it was perfectly possible to coexist in the devel branch, at least for my perception. What I have in head is also future developments; my decision can seem hasty and/or hotheaded if only looking at the past. The last days i was wondering why

Re: [PD-dev] Re: PD-cvs Digest, Vol 21, Issue 30

2006-11-29 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, Thomas Grill wrote: The last days i was wondering why suddenly a lot of changes happen in many parts of the devel branch, There are many reasons for that, but especially, Oh, and the feature that started this thread, is the