[PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1818219 ] Namespace prifix to GUI objects gets removed by saving

2007-10-23 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1818219, was opened at 2007-10-23 00:50 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by stffn You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=478070aid=1818219group_id=55736 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment

Re: [PD-dev] SVN?

2007-10-23 Thread David Merrill
I know SVN better myself - since I use it for the rest of my work.. -David On 10/22/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, There was gung-ho talk back at PdCon about switching to SVN. It's been quiet recently, any word on that? :) .hc

Re: [PD-dev] SVN?

2007-10-23 Thread Stephen Sinclair
I don't want to sound like I'm just trumpeting the latest hype, but someone is going to say it, so it may as well be me: Considering the highly distributed nature of Pd development (lots of people with dev access working on different, independent parts), I really think a distributed system like

Re: [PD-dev] SVN?

2007-10-23 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! I don't know much about git, but what I have read this would defenitely be an option. Then also synching developer and millers version should be easier if I understood that correctly ? What do the others think ? LG Georg ___ PD-dev mailing

Re: [PD-dev] SVN?

2007-10-23 Thread Tim Blechmann
I don't know much about git, but what I have read this would defenitely be an option. Then also synching developer and millers version should be easier if I understood that correctly ? What do the others think ? i recently started using git for nova, it is really an extremely powerful

Re: [PD-dev] SVN?

2007-10-23 Thread Tim Blechmann
On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 11:56 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: A distributed repository sounds interesting, but given Linus Torvald's love of KDE, constant dissing of usability, and the fact that git has 119 commands, this gives me pause. in order to evaluate git, one should maybe give

Re: [PD-dev] SVN?

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 23, 2007, at 12:51 PM, Tim Blechmann wrote: On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 11:56 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: A distributed repository sounds interesting, but given Linus Torvald's love of KDE, constant dissing of usability, and the fact that git has 119 commands, this gives me pause.

Re: [PD-dev] SVN?

2007-10-23 Thread Tim Blechmann
My experience is that Linus is super focused on issues that affect him and pretty much totally ignores other issues that don't affect him. Also, he approaches things with arrogance. So chances are, that effects the software he writes. i am not sure whether one should judge the

Re: [PD-dev] SVN?

2007-10-23 Thread Stephen Sinclair
are used ... beside that, i am not sure, how access to specific parts of the repository can be restricted ... You don't have to restrict anything. If someone messes with your work, you simply don't merge what they did. They're free to do whatever they want in _their_ repository, but you're not

Re: [PD-dev] SVN?

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 23, 2007, at 2:41 PM, Stephen Sinclair wrote: are used ... beside that, i am not sure, how access to specific parts of the repository can be restricted ... You don't have to restrict anything. If someone messes with your work, you simply don't merge what they did. They're free

[PD-dev] lib link levels

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey all, I just wanted to double check something here. So if PiDiP links to libmagick, and libmagick links to a bunch of other libs, then PiDiP doesn't need to link to the libs that libmagick links to, right? I just want to try to limit the dependencies of the pd-extended packages to

Re: [PD-dev] SVN?

2007-10-23 Thread Luke Iannini (pd)
Actually, it would be good if you did push the idea. :D I think if we aren't switching to SVN, we really should consider a distributed system. I am just not sure which one is the best one for the Pd community. While Linus' personality is funny, his ideas about software usability are what

Re: [PD-dev] SVN?

2007-10-23 Thread Luke Iannini (pd)
Also, I believe IOhannes already did a lot of work to get SVN running; last I saw we were basically just waiting for everyone else to be ready? I'll let him confirm but it would be a shame to have wasted his time : ). Info on SVN 1.5 is here: http://subversion.tigris.org/svn_1.5_releasenotes.html

Re: [PD-dev] SVN?

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:44 PM, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: Actually, it would be good if you did push the idea. :D I think if we aren't switching to SVN, we really should consider a distributed system. I am just not sure which one is the best one for the Pd community. While Linus' personality is

Re: [PD-dev] SVN?

2007-10-23 Thread Stephen Sinclair
Actually, it would be good if you did push the idea. :D I think if Okay then.. ;-) It's a good discussion anyway.. I think these are all very good arguments for / against svn and git. I'll just note that I've briefly tested out the Windows git installer, and it is pretty nice. I did get an

[PD-dev] Mac OS X Universal Builds

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Anyone know anything about Mac OS X Universal builds? The Pd- extended and Pd build systems need to be updated to a sane, Mac OS X- style universal build system. Right now, each does different things, and neither is correct. :D I am scared to face it alone :'-( .hc

[PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1818219 ] namespace prefix to [grid] gets removed when saving

2007-10-23 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1818219, was opened at 2007-10-22 18:50 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by eighthave You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=478070aid=1818219group_id=55736 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment

[PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1818847 ] [entry] only accepts typing when mouse pointer is in box

2007-10-23 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1818847, was opened at 2007-10-23 17:10 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=478070aid=1818847group_id=55736 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of

Re: [PD-dev] ... introducing myself. was Re: can pdvjtools have a place in your cvs external repository?

2007-10-23 Thread lluisgomez
hi list, we made very long bios ;) should we wait more ... or it's ok? ;) ll. S'està citant [EMAIL PROTECTED]: El dt 02 de 10 del 2007 a les 13:50 +0200, en/na IOhannes m zmoelnig va escriure: do you both want to have CVS write access, or just one of you? yes, we think this will help us

Re: [PD-dev] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-23 Thread Luke Iannini (pd)
Sounds good to me! I think my biggest blocker-level issues with the extended 0.40.3 builds are the mismatched font-cursor handling in object-boxes with the new fonts, and the inability to use ~/mtx_*~ and so on (though I believe IOhannes may have fixed that recently?). What mismatched

Re: [PD-dev] ... introducing myself. was Re: can pdvjtools have a place in your cvs external repository?

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
No, sorry, you just need to nag more! :D I just added you two. Welcome! .hc On Oct 23, 2007, at 7:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi list, we made very long bios ;) should we wait more ... or it's ok? ;) ll. S'està citant [EMAIL PROTECTED]: El dt 02 de 10 del 2007 a les 13:50 +0200,

Re: [PD-dev] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 23, 2007, at 7:05 PM, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: Sounds good to me! I think my biggest blocker-level issues with the extended 0.40.3 builds are the mismatched font-cursor handling in object-boxes with the new fonts, and the inability to use ~/ mtx_*~ and so on (though I believe

Re: [PD-dev] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-23 Thread Luke Iannini (pd)
Here's a new pic demonstrating the issue, by the way (I'll add it to the tracker) The 1px wide canvas is demonstrating where I am clicking, and the actual cursor is visible to show the result. On 10/23/07, Luke Iannini (pd) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds good to me! I think my biggest

Re: [PD-dev] SVN?

2007-10-23 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Stephen Sinclair hat gesagt: // Stephen Sinclair wrote: Actually, it would be good if you did push the idea. :D I think if Okay then.. ;-) It's a good discussion anyway.. I think these are all very good arguments for / against svn and git. I believe the main argument for SVN is

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X Universal Builds

2007-10-23 Thread Stephen Sinclair
Anyone know anything about Mac OS X Universal builds? The Pd- extended and Pd build systems need to be updated to a sane, Mac OS X- style universal build system. Right now, each does different things, and neither is correct. :D I am scared to face it alone :'-( Heh.. :) As far as I

[PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1650752 ] Select Cursor does not Correspond to Text In New PD-Extended

2007-10-23 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1650752, was opened at 2007-02-02 11:00 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by eighthave You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=478070aid=1650752group_id=55736 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment

Re: [PD-dev] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yup, you don't have Bitstream Vera Sans Mono working/installed. It has a distinctive lower L. .hc On Oct 23, 2007, at 7:15 PM, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: Here's a new pic demonstrating the issue, by the way (I'll add it to the tracker) The 1px wide canvas is demonstrating where I am

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-23 Thread Miller Puckette
The following lines: sys_fontlist[i].fi_hostfontsize = atom_getintarg(3 * best + 2, argc, argv); sys_fontlist[i].fi_width = atom_getintarg(3 * best + 3, argc, argv); sys_fontlist[i].fi_height = atom_getintarg(3 * best + 4, argc, argv); are how Pd finds out the

[PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1818219 ] namespace prefix not included in gui save functions

2007-10-23 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1818219, was opened at 2007-10-22 18:50 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by eighthave You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=478070aid=1818219group_id=55736 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment

[PD-dev] Tcl loader and API

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Now that I am wrestling with wrestling with the GUI API, I am thinking that it probably makes more sense to write a Tcl/Tk API and loader to allow you to write GUI objects completely in Tcl/Tk. I think this is the idea that Krzysztof had in mind when he wrote widget. That was before

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Monaco is anti-aliased on bigger sizes, at least on the machines I've tested on.  I attached an example..hcOn Oct 23, 2007, at 8:51 PM, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote:You're right.  It looks like it's using regular Bitstream Vera Sans rather than Mono?I have this line in my .pdrc-font-face "Bitstream

Re: [PD-dev] Tcl loader and API

2007-10-23 Thread Patrice Colet
Hi! Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Now that I am wrestling with wrestling with the GUI API, I am thinking that it probably makes more sense to write a Tcl/Tk API and loader to allow you to write GUI objects completely in Tcl/Tk. I think this is the idea that Krzysztof had in mind when

Re: [PD-dev] Tcl loader and API

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 23, 2007, at 10:43 PM, Patrice Colet wrote: Hi! Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Now that I am wrestling with wrestling with the GUI API, I am thinking that it probably makes more sense to write a Tcl/Tk API and loader to allow you to write GUI objects completely in Tcl/Tk. I

Re: [PD-dev] [ANN] mostly for devs and tcl'ers: tclpd

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Ok, now I am going thru your readme, here are some first thoughts. - About the symbol/float stuff, I think Pd is intended to always reduce atoms to their elemental type based on their content. Therefore, {symbol 123} shouldn't really exist. For the most part in Pd, it doesn't.

Re: [PD-dev] font troubles WAS Re: [PD] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I am fine with that as long as the box sizes for the default font face and standard font sizes are the same to the pixel on all platforms. .hc On Oct 23, 2007, at 10:52 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: I agree it would be excellent to have the font come out the same size on all platforms (and