Re: [PD-dev] poly library

2008-11-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
state. It also creates objects in the subpatch with proper $0 and $1. - [instances] uses one [route] for all instances .hc poly-ideas.tar.bz2 Description: Binary data On Nov 15, 2008, at 4:38 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey, Now that I am immersing myself in the various

Re: [PD-dev] poly library

2008-11-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 15, 2008, at 9:46 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: - [rawpoly] allows for dynamic addition while each existing instance will keep it's state. It also creates objects in the subpatch with proper $0 and $1

Re: [PD-dev] poly library

2008-11-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 16, 2008, at 4:17 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I didn't think of changing the behavior by using different wrappers, that makes sense. I guess with nqpoly4 vs polypoly the main difference in the wrapper. I

Re: [PD-dev] poly library

2008-11-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I just thought of one more advantage of not using a wrap patch: when you modify an instance, the dirty flag gets set on the nqpoly patch rather than all of the nqpwrap instances. This is a huge advantage for debugging. .hc On Nov 16, 2008, at 5:19 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote

[PD-dev] moocow/libgfsm error on Fedora

2008-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Anyone know why moocow is dying on Fedora with this error: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-11-16/logs/ 2008-11-16_04.30.20_linux_fedora8-i386_pd-extended_run-automated- builder.txt gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -DPIC -O3 -pipe -fPIC -Wall -DPD -O2 - mtune=i686 -march=i386

Re: [PD-dev] compiling Pd-0.40.3-extended in a core 2 duo

2008-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think you want to set the CFLAGS in packages/linux_make/Makefile .hc On Nov 16, 2008, at 7:31 PM, jano . wrote: hi! still trying.. i discover some parts of the source where the enviroment CFLAGS has no effect, i don'k know why so i add by hand, they are: externals/ pdp/opengl --- i

Re: [PD-dev] moocow/libgfsm error on Fedora

2008-11-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 18, 2008, at 5:09 AM, Bryan Jurish wrote: morning Hans, morning list, On 2008-11-18 02:32:57, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] appears to have written: Anyone know why moocow is dying on Fedora with this error: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-11-16/logs

Re: [PD-dev] poly library

2008-11-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
instantiation .hc On Nov 16, 2008, at 4:17 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I didn't think of changing the behavior by using different wrappers, that makes sense. I guess with nqpoly4 vs polypoly the main difference

[PD-dev] GPLv3 and Pd-extended

2008-11-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
For the next release of Pd-extended, I think we should release it under the GPL v3, so I am asking to see if there are any objections. This is my understanding of what this would mean: the only real added restriction would be that things included in Pd-extended could not be licensed GPL v2

Re: [PD-dev] Request to be added to the PD Sourceforge project as a dev.

2008-11-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey, Thanks for the intro! I support this because we definitely need someone to finish up the details of a full 64-bit port! .hc On Nov 25, 2008, at 9:17 PM, Ilias Anagnostopoulos wrote: Quote: Please send your request to the pd-dev mailing list, together with an introduction about your

[PD-dev] [stdout] in extra

2008-11-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey, I just checked out [stdout] in pd 0.42 in extra, looks like a handy object. One comment, what about adding a second inlet that you can bang for the flush? This would be instead of the flush message. Then the first inlet can always just be passed straight through to stdout. .hc

Re: [PD-dev] PdLab installation request: glib-2.0

2008-12-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I'll happily install any packages that don't cause problems with anything else. It seems this one is mostly kind of installed already, but I'll fully install it: debian-stable-i386 -- ii libglib2.0-0 2.12.4-2 The GLib library of C routines un

Re: [PD-dev] i can has svn commit access?

2008-12-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yay, more devs! Thanks for the email intro, though I know you already. First off, if you send your sourceforge name, then we'll have it once this process is complete. .hc On Dec 1, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Damian Stewart wrote: hey list, i'm Damian, i come from a background in electroacoustic

Re: [PD-dev] [stdout] in extra

2008-12-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
be quite handy. .hc cheers Miller On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 08:11:02PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey, I just checked out [stdout] in pd 0.42 in extra, looks like a handy object. One comment, what about adding a second inlet that you can bang for the flush? This would be instead

Re: [PD-dev] pd and threads with pd~ : was Re: i can has svn commit access?

2008-12-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 2, 2008, at 8:58 AM, Damian Stewart wrote: cyrille henry wrote: hello, i'm maybe wrong, but it look like the pd~ object that is part of 0.42 test release offer a good and generic solution to create thread with pd. ok, hello, Miller? if you're reading: is there a roadmap for

Re: [PD-dev] i can has svn commit access?

2008-12-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 2, 2008, at 5:43 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Damian Stewart hat gesagt: // Damian Stewart wrote: i'd like SVN commit access, so that i can work on improvements to some of the Pd usability issues that have been bugging me lately. i would like to implement multithreaded

Re: [PD-dev] pd and threads with pd~ : was Re: i can has svn commit access?

2008-12-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 2, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: Fortunately many people are just posting up their papers on their own websites, maybe Miller could do this. I don't know which paper was being talked about but they should all be up there on my website :) Rumor has it there is a paper

[PD-dev] libmpeg3 on fedora

2008-12-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
My guess is that these errors are mostly likely caused by the fact that Fedora puts the libmpeg3 headers in a different place: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep mpeg3_close /usr/include/*.h /usr/include/libmpeg3.h:int mpeg3_close(mpeg3_t *file); [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ grep mpeg3_close

Re: [PD-dev] libmpeg3 on fedora

2008-12-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 5, 2008, at 7:58 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: My guess is that these errors are mostly likely caused by the fact that Fedora puts the libmpeg3 headers in a different place: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep mpeg3_close /usr/include/*.h /usr/include/libmpeg3

Re: [PD-dev] pd-devel revival

2008-12-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yay! Its my hope that we can build upon efforts like pd-devel and desiredata. Standing on the shoulders of giants kind of thing. I would like to contribute to a community fork that aims to be Pd compatible, but really focuses on decentralizing as much as possible, by structuring things

Re: [PD-dev] libmpeg3 on fedora

2008-12-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 7, 2008, at 12:02 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: well, the joys of multiple distros... i suggest that either the distro or the upstream maintainers create a pkg-config for libmpeg3. this would be used automatically by Gem's build system

[PD-dev] representing parent patch levels as args

2008-12-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
So I am just adding support to canvas_name and window_name for getting the names from other canvases besides the current one, i.e. parent, toplevel, etc. I am using the now standard numeric notation that is used in [getdir], iemguts, getdollarzero, etc. What I am wondering is whether it

Re: [PD-dev] pd-devel revival

2008-12-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 8, 2008, at 11:11 AM, Miller Puckette wrote: Hi all, I've spent some time thinking about this. I had only limited success pulling code from the 0.39 devel because there were so many changes, often with rationales I didn't fully understand, that I wasn't confident about my

Re: [PD-dev] representing parent patch levels as args

2008-12-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 8, 2008, at 12:21 PM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: So I am just adding support to canvas_name and window_name for getting the names from other canvases besides the current one, i.e. parent, toplevel, etc. OK. I am using the now standard numeric

Re: [PD-dev] representing parent patch levels as args

2008-12-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 9, 2008, at 3:37 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Dec 8, 2008, at 12:21 PM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: So I am just adding support to canvas_name and window_name for getting the names from other canvases besides

Re: [PD-dev] Pd 0.42-0 test 6 available

2008-12-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 11, 2008, at 4:39 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Miller Puckette wrote: I'm thinking the sys_pdexe is teh only way. I try to avoid adding junk to the Pd API but in this case I think it will be necessary. speaking of adding things to the Pd API... is it totally out of your ways

Re: [PD-dev] pd-devel revival

2008-12-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
and starts anyway. cheers Miller On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 05:49:14PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Dec 8, 2008, at 11:11 AM, Miller Puckette wrote: Hi all, I've spent some time thinking about this. I had only limited success pulling code from the 0.39 devel because there were so

Re: [PD-dev] Pd 0.42-0 test 6 available

2008-12-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 11, 2008, at 1:54 PM, Martin Peach wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: speaking of adding things to the Pd API... is it totally out of your ways to - add a function that returns the version of Pd? something like const char

Re: [PD-dev] toggle 'get' method patch

2008-12-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Unfortunately, the Submitter field is fixed... I think you should be able to subscribe to it though. .hc On Dec 12, 2008, at 3:55 AM, Jamie Bullock wrote: Hi, I just submitted a patch to the tracker. Id 2419952. Could one of the admins change 'Submitter' field to 'postlude', so that I

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Patches-2419952 ] Add 'get' method to toggle

2008-12-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yeah, I think there should be more querying capabilities in Pd in general. It allows for more dynamic behavior without resorting to strange hacks. .hc On Dec 12, 2008, at 4:02 AM, Luke Iannini wrote: That's great! I'd actually love to be able to get any of the parameters of GUI

Re: [PD-dev] developer

2008-12-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 14, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Daniel Aschauer wrote: I wanted to add my external to the repository. How do I become a developer? Send a bio (with your sourceforge username) and description of project to this list and wait for people to not object, or

Re: [PD-dev] libmpeg3 on fedora

2008-12-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 12, 2008, at 3:21 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: i have (hopefully) fixed it now -- let's wait for tomorrows logs. argh! while my changes no make Gem find the correct headers, it's only to discover that they changed the API :-( Everyone should just use

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Patches-2419952 ] Add 'get' method to toggle

2008-12-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 14, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Jamie Bullock wrote: On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 13:47 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yeah, I think there should be more querying capabilities in Pd in general. It allows for more dynamic behavior without resorting to strange hacks

Re: [PD-dev] a52dec-devel installed on Fedora build server

2008-12-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 18, 2008, at 6:08 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: FYI: I installed a52dec-devel on the Fedora build server cool thanks. could you do the same for the planetCCRMA machine? Sorry, that's the same thing. It's Fedora/PlanetCCRMA. .hc fgm,asdr

Re: [PD-dev] a52dec-devel installed on Fedora build server

2008-12-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 19, 2008, at 6:06 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: i was over-enthusiastically looking at the log-files and noticed that the error was still there, so i thought... obviously because the build was started before the packages were installed. mfdar IOhannes

Re: [PD-dev] Pd hacking

2008-12-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 22, 2008, at 9:19 AM, [*~] wrote: Hi all: https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/ pd- devel/0.41.4 I am creating pd/src/pd.tcl to working on. I think the first rule that we should work on is that we don't modify any of the files directly from

Re: [PD-dev] pd-0.41-4 vanilla build fails on osx ppc

2008-12-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 22, 2008, at 1:18 PM, volker böhm wrote: hi miller, On 22 Dec 2008, at 19:07, Miller Puckette wrote: Sounds like you have a rare Mac without an i386 compiler installed. I'm not sure, but I think bringing the development suite up to date should fix that. hm, i might not be

Re: [PD-dev] poly library

2008-12-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 21, 2008, at 5:28 PM, Ed Kelly wrote: Yep, that's true, but OTOH a wrapper is just a Pd patch, which is much easier to change than a dynamic patching construct. That has to be taken into account when it comes to longer-term maintainability. Generally less dynamic patching is

Re: [PD-dev] developer

2008-12-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
and my username on sourceforge is aschix. I would be glad to join the sourceforge project and add my code to the repository! Daniel Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb: On Dec 14, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Daniel Aschauer wrote: I wanted to add my external to the repository

Re: [PD-dev] i can has svn commit access?

2008-12-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
It seems there are no objections so I am going to add Damian as a developer. Damian, could you post your Sourceforge ID? I couldn't find it anywhere. Sorry it took so long, when going thru this process, it is appropriate and even beneficial to nag on this list to be added :) .hc On Dec

Re: [PD-dev] Pd hacking

2008-12-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 22, 2008, at 8:42 PM, [*~] wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner said : On Dec 22, 2008, at 9:19 AM, [*~] wrote: Hi all: https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/ branches/ pd- devel/0.41.4 I am creating pd/src/pd.tcl to working on. I think the first rule that we

Re: [PD-dev] pd-devel revival

2008-12-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 23, 2008, at 12:55 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Miller Puckette wrote: Second, and this just occurred to me, I think it would be smart to separate the u_main.tk cide into several smaller files. They could simply be concatenated by the makefile. This way people could work on

[PD-dev] Tcl/Tk code formatting and file organization

2008-12-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Now that I have done some coding on the new Tcl side of things, I have some questions to pose here. (crossing fingers, hoping to avoid bike shed issues :D ) - first, does anyone object to making the Tcl files use 90 or 100 character widths? Tcl lines tend to be long and 80 char width

Re: [PD-dev] pd.tk patches

2008-12-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Here's how I see it: I think we should first reorganize the code and streamline the GUI. I think we can change things that are only in the current u_main.tk. Then once that is complete, we can start making more substantial changes. So things like updating the preference pane GUIs

Re: [PD-dev] pd.tk patches

2008-12-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 25, 2008, at 10:27 PM, [*~] wrote: Hi there: Hans-Christoph Steiner said : Here's how I see it: I think we should first reorganize the code and streamline the GUI. I think we can change things that are only in the current u_main.tk. Then once that is complete, we can start

Re: [PD-dev] Tcl/Tk code formatting and file organization

2008-12-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I forgot to add, I found this website has useful advice on organizing and using Tcl packages: http://www.wjduquette.com/tcl/namespaces.html .hc On Dec 24, 2008, at 6:29 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Now that I have done some coding on the new Tcl side of things, I have some

Re: [PD-dev] [patch] pd-devel: makefile.in: install lib stuff into $DESTDIR during install phase

2008-12-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Before we start modifying any specific file in pd-devel, I think there needs to be a plan for how those changes are going to maintained, IMHO. I don't think pd-devel is an outright fork (yet?) so its too soon to just start committing things without this discussion about how it will

Re: [PD-dev] [patch] pd-devel: makefile.in: install lib stuff into $DESTDIR during install phase

2008-12-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 28, 2008, at 5:11 PM, mescali...@gmail.com wrote: Miller Puckette wrote: Looks like I already took a DESTDIR patch sometime in the past, and the present one merely makes it more nearly correct -- so I just hand- adapted it into vanilla. (new test release hopefully to arrive

Re: [PD-dev] Tcl/Tk code formatting and file organization

2009-01-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 3, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: Sorry for the slow response on this one... - first, does anyone object to making the Tcl files use 90 or 100 character widths? Tcl lines tend to be long and 80 char width tends to cause a lot of really ugly lines. This would cause me

[PD-dev] locales and iemgui

2009-01-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Chun, all, I am thinking that for adding locales to pd-devel, we should leave iemgui out of it. It is very messy code that has a lot of legacy use, so that the iemgui stuff would need to have full backwards compatibility. Instead, I think we should build a new GUI library that

Re: [PD-dev] locales and iemgui

2009-01-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Actually, I just found out that the GNU gettext utils for .po files are included in Tcl/Tk in a package called msgcat. Here's a little bit more on the topic: http://www.gnu.org/software/automake/manual/gettext/Tcl.html .hc On Jan 5, 2009, at 4:33 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey

Re: [PD-dev] locales and iemgui

2009-01-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Ok, responding to myself again :D It turns out that msgcat has been part of Tcl since 8.1: http://tcl.tk/man/tcl8.4/TclCmd/msgcat.htm It looks like this is definitely the way to handle locales. .hc On Jan 5, 2009, at 7:18 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Actually, I just found out

Re: [PD-dev] fPIC additions for 64-bit compiling?

2009-01-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
If the fixes aren't in trunk or the patch tracker, then they still need fixing, AFAIK. People have been building the bulk of Pd-extended on 64-bit, but I don't think anyone has gotten everything building yet. So it would be great if you did! .hc On Jan 5, 2009, at 11:05 PM, Spencer

Re: [PD-dev] locales and iemgui

2009-01-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 5, 2009, at 7:43 PM, mescali...@gmail.com wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey Chun, all, I am thinking that for adding locales to pd-devel, we should leave iemgui out of it. It is very messy code that has a lot of legacy use, so that the iemgui stuff would need to have full

[PD-dev] pd-devel status report

2009-01-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey all, http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/branches/pd-devel/0.41.4/src/ If you haven't followed the SVN check-ins, Chun and I have been working on rewriting the Tcl side of things. Things are structured into some Tcl packages, but I am not sure they are named or

Re: [PD-dev] pd-devel status report

2009-01-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 7, 2009, at 4:59 AM, Steffen Juul wrote: This is a follow up to the other mail on pd-list regarding the same. I think it makes sense to carry on on pd-dev, hence i just respond to this email. On Wed, January 7, 2009 1:14 am, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: If anyone is ready

Re: [PD-dev] locales and iemgui

2009-01-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
system of desiredata is that we could simply reuse all the locale files (with permission) done for it so far, which is quite a fair bit(check the locale directory in /src at the dd branch). my 0.01C:) cheers chun Hans-Christoph Steiner said : Actually, I just found out

Re: [PD-dev] Tcl/Tk code formatting and file organization

2009-01-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 8, 2009, at 7:36 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Jan 3, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: The pd_ is not understood in Tcl. If you have a package/namespace called menus, that is very vague and has a very high potential for causing name

Re: [PD-dev] maxlib's and Gem's scale objects

2009-01-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 8, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Loic Kessous hat gesagt: // Loic Kessous wrote: I recently start to work with Pd (I was a Max guy only before) and I'm a little confuse about the 'scale' and range objects. Both [scale]s, and [range] are externals, so they

[PD-dev] pd-gui.tk?

2009-01-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Minor detail, but I was just thinking, since pd.tk is the core of the Pd gui, which is often called 'pd-gui', perhaps pd.tk should be called pd-gui.tk? .hc ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev

Re: [PD-dev] object name conflicts

2009-01-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 9, 2009, at 2:02 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Daniel Aschauer hat gesagt: // Daniel Aschauer wrote: I committed my external to the svn. But I then realized that in the 0.40.3 extended pd version that I downloaded there is an external (flatspace) included that has similar

[PD-dev] startup order for pd/pd-gui

2009-01-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
One thing that is twisting my brain into knots is the startup order/ procedure. It is not very easy to follow and different on each platform. This is something I would really like to smooth out. Right now, I am looking for tips on figuring out everything that is going on. I've searched

Re: [PD-dev] startup order for pd/pd-gui

2009-01-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
by the Wish.app on Mac OS X, pd.tk then starts 'pd' using -guiport, - s_inter.c and t_tkcmd.c are scary .hc On Jan 10, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: One thing that is twisting my brain into knots is the startup order/ procedure. It is not very easy to follow and different

[PD-dev] seteuid vs. setuid

2009-01-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey, I was just merging 0.41 vanilla into pd-extended 0.40 and noticed something worthwhile to point out. It seems there isn't a patch submitted for this, but it is quite simple. Basically, in s_inter.c, 'seteuid()' is used to lose setuid privileges. As far as I understand it,

[PD-dev] Pd-extended 0.41.4 is merged

2009-01-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I just completed merging the Pd-vanilla 0.41.4 changes into Pd- extended 0.40.3. It compiled, ran, and made sound, so I think it is off to a good start! I am now changing the 'pd-extended' nightly build to be based on this rather than 0.40.3 like it is now. Here's the branch in SVN:

[PD-dev] Pd-extended 0.41 branch coming soon

2009-01-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Since the Pd-extended 0.41 merge is done, soon it shall be time to add externals, doc, etc. to that branch. So get your changes into trunk now! :D I think we should try to make this go quicker this time, meaning absolutely no changes to the branch except bug fixes. Last time things

[PD-dev] dev name change: from 'federico__' to 'mescalinum'

2009-01-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey, On Federico's request, I changed his developer access from 'federico__' to 'mescalinum', and removed the federico__ account. .hc 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away

Re: [PD-dev] startup order for pd/pd-gui

2009-01-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Right, this is what I was looking for! Thanks so much, this is an amazing resource! .hc On Jan 10, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Martin Peach wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: One thing that is twisting my brain into knots is the startup order/ procedure. It is not very easy to follow

Re: [PD-dev] startup order for pd/pd-gui

2009-01-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
this...(?) (but, is the launch order reversed in OSX? i.e. the gui starts the server?) 1: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/branches/pd-devel/0.41.4/src/s_inter.c?r1=10407r2=10501pathrev=10501 -- FF Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I little self-posting is in order

[PD-dev] adding pure-data to CIA.vc

2009-01-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Does anyone mind if I enable the cia.vc stats reporting for the pure- data SVN? It's a built-in feature in SourceForge, just a checkbox, basically, in the Admin-Subversion section. .hc You can't steal a gift. Bird

Re: [PD-dev] seteuid vs. setuid

2009-01-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 12, 2009, at 5:04 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Tim Blechmann hat gesagt: // Tim Blechmann wrote: I was just merging 0.41 vanilla into pd-extended 0.40 and noticed something worthwhile to point out. It seems there isn't a patch submitted for this, but it is quite simple.

[PD-dev] pd [concat $name msg $accel \;] VS. using quotes

2009-01-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I am thinking it would make things much more readable for non-Tclers and it shouldn't change the function if the code used double-quotes instead of Tcl's [concat] for sending messages. So something like this: pd $name msg $accel : Instead of this: pd [concat $name msg $accel \;] Can

[PD-dev] -guiport vs other arguments

2009-01-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
So I have startup in both directions working, ('pd.tk' starts 'pd', and 'pd' starts 'pd.tk'). This means you can choose which wish shell to use on any platform, and it'll use that one. Here's how: wish /path/to/pd.tk This means you can easily use any 'wish' and run Pd with it. It also

[PD-dev] checking to see if another instance of Pd is running

2009-01-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I just found this snippet in the Tcl/Tk docs (http://tcl.tk/man/tcl8.4/TkCmd/send.htm ) and it shows how to check if another instance of an app is running. This script fragment can be used to make an application that only runs once on a particular display. if {[tk appname FoobarApp] ne

Re: [PD-dev] -guiport vs other arguments

2009-01-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
]$ pd -guiport 5600 connecting stream socket: Connection refused (111) [...@slash src]$ This seems correct, since there wasn't anybody listening on port 5600. cheers Miller On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 07:15:48PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: So I have startup in both directions working

Re: [PD-dev] adding pure-data to CIA.vc

2009-01-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 12, 2009, at 1:45 PM, mescali...@gmail.com wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Does anyone mind if I enable the cia.vc stats reporting for the pure- data SVN? It's a built-in feature in SourceForge, just a checkbox, basically, in the Admin-Subversion section. would be just sweet

Re: [PD-dev] wishlist: pd being able to connect to a remote pd-gui

2009-01-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 13, 2009, at 1:09 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: since we are talking about guiports and stuff like that, i now find the time to ask a question i always wanted to ask: would it make sense to add an argument to pd so it could connect to a remote pd-gui?

Re: [PD-dev] [tcpsocketserver] - a protocol-aware wrapper around [tcpserver]

2009-01-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 13, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Martin Peach wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: This looks very cool, we need an easy to use OSC replacement for dumpOSC/sendOSC. One thing, I get this when I load them: unpackOSCstream ... couldn't create unpackOSCstream

[PD-dev] proposed C change: consistent naming

2009-01-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think it would make a lot of sense to rename a few functions/procs so that they all match the pd message, but I haven't does this yet in pd-devel. For example: mouse message: Tcl: pdtk_canvas_click - pdtk_canvas_mouse C: canvas_mousedown - canvas_mouse mouseup message Tcl:

Re: [PD-dev] pd-gui.tk?

2009-01-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 13, 2009, at 3:25 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Minor detail, but I was just thinking, since pd.tk is the core of the Pd gui, which is often called 'pd-gui', perhaps pd.tk should be called pd-gui.tk? if pd.tk is to be the executable (rather than

Re: [PD-dev] pd-devel 0.42 (was Re: pd-devel status report)

2009-01-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
The pd/tk interface doesn't need to change, at least so far it hasn't. That is one thing I have been working to keep completely intact. One thing that will have to change is s_inter.c since it handles the startup procedure. Mostly, I think it'll be drastically simplified as most of

Re: [PD-dev] pd-devel 0.42 (was Re: pd-devel status report)

2009-01-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 13, 2009, at 3:39 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Steffen Juul wrote: That aside. Just making sure: This devel branch is branching of vanilla 0.41-4 and the only focus is the gui (as opposed to also merging devel-0.39 features)? since 0.42 is just out,

Re: [PD-dev] -guiport vs other arguments

2009-01-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
-- /home/msp/pd/bin/pd -stderr -guiport 6000 2320 % connecting stream socket: Connection refused (111) On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:35:10AM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I mean if I exec pd from Tcl with more arguments than just -guiport 5600, I get the output of -help and then pd quits

Re: [PD-dev] how to contribute

2009-01-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Sure, sounds like it fits in the mapping library. One question, could the algorithm be implemented in Pd? So far, the mapping library is all Pd, no C. .hc On Jan 14, 2009, at 8:40 AM, cyrille henry wrote: Hello loic, since you don't have a lot's of stuff to add to pure data svn, i

[PD-dev] pd-devel status report #2

2009-01-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
To start with, I am working on Ubuntu/Intrepid/i386 and Mac OS X 10.5.6/Intel. First, it works! You can open patches and run them! You can create patches, but its pretty glitchy still. I am working on getting saving working right now. So far, most of the work has been on

[PD-dev] spotlight importer build error on 10.5

2009-01-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
When I try to build the spotlight importer with XCode 3.1.2 on Mac OS X 10.5.6/Intel, I get this error: error: can't exec '/Developer/Library/Xcode/Plug-ins/GCC 4.0.xcplugin/ Contents/Resources/cc' (No such file or directory) Any ideas how to fix it? I have the whole XCode installed. That

[PD-dev] type-punned pointers again

2009-01-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey all, Its time for the biannual post about type-punned pointers. The good news is that in 0.41.4, it seems that Pd itself no longer as any type- punned pointers that gcc auto-vectorizer complains about! The bad news is that there are still a handful of externals that do. I'd happily

Re: [PD-dev] locales and iemgui

2009-01-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 23, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I hear you about reusing existing code, but I think there are a number of code reasons to use msgcat: - it is a widely used standard, so its well documented (esp. compared to our code

[PD-dev] pd-commits and svn links

2009-01-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I just had a thought, does anyone know if SVN can stick in web links to the modified code when sending emails to pd-commits rather than including the whole diff? It would make the emails much smaller, and would be much more useful to view things in viewvc rather than an inline diff in an

Re: [PD-dev] locales and iemgui

2009-01-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 23, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Jan 23, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: So, do you really think that Tcl's GetText 'format' is being used at all outside of Tcl? It's not like it's the same format as used

[PD-dev] removing diffs from pd-cvs emails

2009-01-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey, Since the svnnotify script includes direct links to the changed code, and more, would anyone object if the commit emails no longer include the diff? I think I initially objected to this, now I have seen the error of my ways. :D .hc

[PD-dev] SVN hook script: check-case-insensitive.py

2009-01-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Since Pd devs are working on a mix of platforms, some with case sensitive filesystems, and some not, I think it would be a good idea to install SourceForge's check-case-insensitive.py script as a SVN commit hook. Any objections to that? (We should perhaps also consider using the

Re: [PD-dev] adding pure-data to CIA.vc

2009-01-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 12, 2009, at 1:45 PM, mescali...@gmail.com wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Does anyone mind if I enable the cia.vc stats reporting for the pure- data SVN? It's a built-in feature in SourceForge, just a checkbox, basically, in the Admin-Subversion section. would be just sweet

Re: [PD-dev] adding pure-data to CIA.vc

2009-01-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 23, 2009, at 10:41 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Since there were no objections, I added the ciabot_svn.py script as an SVN hook. Here's the cia.vc project site: http://cia.vc/stats/project/pure-data How about commit messages

Re: [PD-dev] removing diffs from pd-cvs emails

2009-01-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 23, 2009, at 10:38 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Since the svnnotify script includes direct links to the changed code, and more, would anyone object if the commit emails no longer include the diff? I think I initially objected

Re: [PD-dev] removing diffs from pd-cvs emails

2009-01-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 24, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Jan 23, 2009, at 10:38 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Since the svnnotify script includes direct links to the changed code, and more

[PD-dev] 64-bit warnings

2009-01-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey, I am just starting to work on making 64-bit builds for Mac OS X. In the process I found a few compiler warnings that Apple added to gcc to help transition from 32-bit to 64-bit. I enabled it on the pd- extended nightly builds and got a ton of warnings. It seems like it would be

Re: [PD-dev] adding pure-data to CIA.vc

2009-01-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 24, 2009, at 3:47 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Hans wrote: On Jan 23, 2009, at 10:41 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Back when I was on the pd-cvs mailing-list, I'd have said that it's a good idea. I don't know how much pd-cvs has changed since. Well, of course it should be made in a

Re: [PD-dev] SVN hook script: check-case-insensitive.py

2009-01-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 24, 2009, at 4:12 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Since Pd devs are working on a mix of platforms, some with case sensitive filesystems, and some not, I think it would be a good idea to install SourceForge's check-case-insensitive.py script as a SVN

[PD-dev] removed irrelevant #include t_tk.h thruout SVN

2009-01-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I just went through all of the externals that include t_tk.h and found that none of them actually need to include it, since none of them actually use the functions or macros declared in t_tk.h. Since pd- devel has removed t_tk.h, and hopefully pd-vanilla will soon also ditch t_tk.h, I

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