Re: [PD-dev] Separating GUI from the engine in PD

2007-03-13 Thread marius schebella
good luck! marius. Pierpaolo Marcon wrote: I'm trying to put Pd on a DSP processor, but I need to separate completely the Pd engine from the GUI. Does anybody knows if it is available on the web the Pd engine code? (without GUI) Thx! -- Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career.

Re: [PD-dev] auto-build farm update-o-rama

2007-03-23 Thread marius schebella
is there a chance to get mac ub in the nightly autobuilds? or am I just not seeing them? marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I updated everything I could think of on all of the auto-build farm servers. Let's hope nothing breaks. :) .hc

Re: [PD-dev] does pd use dual buffer approach ?

2007-08-18 Thread marius schebella
maybe you also want to look at the vasp library. with vasp you can do fft on whatever buffersize you want. marius. Sergei Steshenko wrote: --- Miller Puckette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depending on the OS, you can get at least 100 milliseconds of buffering and perhaps much more... so it

Re: [PD-dev] Pd code formatter?

2007-09-26 Thread marius schebella
it should be possible to write a parser to forth and back pd format into a XML style format. and then you could have additional information in the XML like object index numbers, or additional information about objects. marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey all, Has anyone ever tried to

Re: [PD-dev] Pd code formatter?

2007-09-26 Thread marius schebella
oops, sorry for my last mail, did not get what you were talking about... marius. Miller Puckette wrote: My settings are: tabs are 8 spaces indents are 4 spaces but to make things easier I always expand out tabs when releasing code; this is done with a shell script using the wonderful and

Re: [PD-dev] pdpedia - infobox template synchronized?

2007-10-06 Thread marius schebella
hey, I think it is better to have more fields, even if we don't use all of them at the moment. some of the original list are very unlikely to be used in the future (like release date) and one field (genre) got deleted because for genre we will use the category information instead. but I

Re: [PD-dev] Pd and gpgpu

2007-11-09 Thread marius schebella
Hi, it is possible to use glsl, I would recommend to look at glsl_vertex, glsl_fragment and glsl_program. you don't have to bind any variables or textures. That is done automatically by glsl_program. you have to send the textures a message [texunit 1( or something like that if you use more than

Re: [PD-dev] DesireData

2008-02-12 Thread marius schebella
http://www.ostarrichi.org/wort-6334-at-Bluatwiesn+(Blutwiese).html usually found in Sich auf der Bluatwiesn treffen which means to fight something out on the field. you say this as a threat, but never do it (only kindergarten). marius. Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, IOhannes m

[PD-dev] how to checkout svn

2008-02-15 Thread marius schebella
hi, how can I checkout the latest pd-extended sources? marius. ___ PD-dev mailing list PD-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev

Re: [PD-dev] naming loaders: pdlua, tclpd, etc.

2008-03-13 Thread marius schebella
what exactly *is* the lua loader? is it a wrapper? or a library? I was confused in the beginning bcause I thought the thing was named pdlua, but the thing was loaded with lib- lua (so I thought it *is* a library, but named like lua, the language itself? hmm..) marius. Frank Barknecht wrote:

Re: [PD-dev] adding pdpedia links to all help patches

2008-03-18 Thread marius schebella
I really think this should be done by hand, and every pdpedia page has to be fixed together with the help patch (right now all the texts/comments of a help patch were just dumped into the pdpedia pages). then you can give the patches a good layout/design. and there must be relevant additional

[PD-dev] build error

2008-04-09 Thread marius schebella
hi, trying to build an intel build of pd-extended and get an error for toxy, don't know what is wrong. thanks, marius. gcc -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -march=pentium4 -msse2 -mfpmath=sse -ftree-vectorize -ftree-vectorizer-verbose=2 -DUNIX -DMACOSX -I .

Re: [PD-dev] build error

2008-04-09 Thread marius schebella
/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/miXed/toxy/Makefile .hc On Apr 9, 2008, at 6:22 PM, marius schebella wrote: hi, trying to build an intel build of pd-extended and get an error for toxy, don't know what is wrong. thanks, marius. gcc -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused -Wno

Re: [PD-dev] build error

2008-04-10 Thread marius schebella
: Layers upon layers of hacks. Amazingly it works... sometimes. ;) Where there is a will, there is a way. .hc On Apr 9, 2008, at 8:35 PM, bsoisoi wrote: are you on 10.5? Welcome to the mac os x pd-extended nightmare !B On Apr 9, 2008, at 7:52 PM, marius schebella wrote: tried fink install

Re: [PD-dev] new approach to Fink

2008-04-10 Thread marius schebella
compile still dies with the toxy error... m. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The included Tcl/Tk is 8.4.7, which is quite old. It's definitely worth it to use the newer version, especially when we switch to 8.5. Basically, you need to have the whole 'pd-extended' tree since the

Re: [PD-dev] build error

2008-04-10 Thread marius schebella
. Mind, I think maybe a switch back to old Linux is a better option. David !B On Apr 9, 2008, at 7:52 PM, marius schebella wrote: tried fink install coreutils-default and... ... then I tried fink install sed and... ... then it did not work still. marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote

Re: [PD-dev] build error

2008-04-11 Thread marius schebella
, at 9:05 PM, marius schebella wrote: I think the toxy error results from some sed problem, in particular the -e option of sed. sed seems to write a strange line into setup.wiq if I open it, the first line starts like -e // Do not edit this file (edit ../test/toxy/setup.wid, and run make).\n

Re: [PD-dev] build error

2008-04-11 Thread marius schebella
. Try the test in a test.sh script with #!/bin/sh at the top. .hc On Apr 11, 2008, at 11:12 AM, marius schebella wrote: I cannot confirm that: echo -e marius\\nhans prints out marius hans as expected. but maybe the problem is that ECHO = echo prints out = echo marius. Hans

Re: [PD-dev] build error

2008-04-11 Thread marius schebella
at the top. .hc On Apr 11, 2008, at 11:12 AM, marius schebella wrote: I cannot confirm that: echo -e marius\\nhans prints out marius hans as expected. but maybe the problem is that ECHO = echo prints out = echo marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It's actually, the -e option

Re: [PD-dev] build error

2008-04-11 Thread marius schebella
@ERROR: access denied to upload from cpe-66-65-50-166.nyc.res.rr.com (66.65.50.166) rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [sender] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at /SourceCache/rsync/rsync-30/rsync/io.c(359) marius. marius schebella wrote: ok

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1942204 ] pdpedia Captcha

2008-04-15 Thread marius schebella
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting SourceForge.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: pdpedia Status: Closed Resolution: Invalid

Re: [PD-dev] new distro: pd-vanilla+libs

2008-04-18 Thread marius schebella
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Apr 18, 2008, at 8:46 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo Hans, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Now that Pd can be built on all platforms without patches, I think we can have a pd-vanilla+libs distro that is based on an

Re: [PD-dev] the future of [declare] and canvas_savedeclarationsto()

2008-05-19 Thread marius schebella
Miller Puckette wrote: Hi all, I use 'declare' all the time.. don't think it's semifunctional at all. /full/path/names do not work on osx. (see my latest bugreports /follow ups on this). http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1917574group_id=55736atid=478070 marius.

Re: [PD-dev] the future of [declare] and canvas_savedeclarationsto()

2008-05-19 Thread marius schebella
I think a main patch should inherit it's path/lib settings to all abstractions used inside it, unless declared otherwise in the abstraction itself. is there a problem with that? maybe this does not work because abstractions are loaded before the main patch, so the information does not get

Re: [PD-dev] the future of [declare] and canvas_savedeclarationsto()

2008-05-20 Thread marius schebella
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On May 20, 2008, at 8:54 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think this issue is pretty clear, and the languages that I know would fall along the lines of each patch/abstraction has its own

Re: [PD-dev] the future of [declare] and canvas_savedeclarationsto()

2008-05-20 Thread marius schebella
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On May 20, 2008, at 3:43 PM, marius schebella wrote: but if you use an abstraction inside another object, then all the variables of the parent patch should be available in the abstraction. additionally the local variables of the subpatch have higher priority

Re: [PD-dev] changing [declare -stdpath] behavior

2008-05-29 Thread marius schebella
the help patch of declare says -stdpath is relative to Pd. this does not necessarily mean it has to be the pd binary, it could mean, the Pd root directory, which would be the folder that contains bin and extra. but certainly not relative to the extra directory of pd. I think -stdpath

Re: [PD-dev] Understanding Pd source code

2008-06-03 Thread marius schebella
Tarakajian, Samuel wrote: Hi all, So I was hoping to write a sound editing application using Pd to do all the signal processing. More exactly, I wanted to use pieces of Pd's sound processing architecture without other parts of Pd, like the GUI. It seems like to do this would require a

Re: [PD-dev] svn:externals, pd-extended, SVN and the goal of it all

2008-06-20 Thread marius schebella
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey, So what should be the core mission of the pure-data repository? It looks like it is time to have that discussion again. I see it as a gathering of code and docs that are intended to be built using a common build system (aka Pd-extended build

Re: [PD-dev] [declare -stdpath]: does it work?

2008-08-12 Thread marius schebella
hi roman, thanks for bringing this one up :). just tested it on OSX and here is what I got: it has some effect, but not as supposed. It extends the path relative to the directory of the pdpatch (and not as stated in the help relative to Pd). in your case: it seems your testpatch resides in

Re: [PD-dev] [declare -stdpath]: does it work?

2008-08-21 Thread marius schebella
dolist to check it out... cheers M On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 06:47:50PM -0400, marius schebella wrote: hi roman, thanks for bringing this one up :). just tested it on OSX and here is what I got: it has some effect, but not as supposed. It extends the path relative to the directory

Re: [PD-dev] stripping down Pd-extended's default libs

2009-02-17 Thread marius schebella
hey hans, if it's called extended and you strip it down to the bare bones, then where's the extended part? Do I understand you correctly that you want to restructure the whole library mess? maybe you should just go for one big lib called extended then, that includes everything that is not really

Re: [PD-dev] stripping down Pd-extended's default libs

2009-02-17 Thread marius schebella
Roman Haefeli wrote: On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 11:24 +0100, marius schebella wrote: hey hans, if it's called extended and you strip it down to the bare bones, then where's the extended part? i think, noone wanted to strip down anything. this is only about not loading the whole bunch of libs

Re: [PD-dev] stripping down Pd-extended's default libs

2009-02-17 Thread marius schebella
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, marius schebella wrote: eventually, I think users should not have to bother with namespaces at all. I still consider namespace declarations in a visual dataflow programming tool to be a hack. So, why is it that it is a hack in the context

Re: [PD-dev] stripping down Pd-extended's default libs

2009-02-18 Thread marius schebella
at all, why not go with single externals and declare each of them separately. pd is so much like the real world, unfinished:open imperfect:exciting software:hardware:people:life. marius. Roman Haefeli wrote: On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 23:30 +0100, marius schebella wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: On Tue

[PD-dev] structuring of pd objects (was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs)

2009-02-20 Thread marius schebella
hi, (maybe this is of general interest for pd users?) speaking of lists, I once did a similar thing some years ago, collecting 2682 objects. the list is far away from being complete or up to date... http://www.parasitaere-kapazitaeten.net/files/GENERAL_ALL.csv_.txt marius. 2009/2/20 João Pais

Re: [PD-dev] Proposals for object categories

2009-02-26 Thread marius schebella
hi, I doubt that these categories will be as hierarchical and structured as proposed here. for example the pdp objects, gridflow and gem(pix and particle+related objects) are good examples for libraries. but zexy and cyclone are libraries where even after so many years I still don't know what

Re: [PD-dev] pd-ext documentation [was something else]

2009-02-26 Thread marius schebella
João Pais wrote: (maybe this is of general interest for pd users?) speaking of lists, I once did a similar thing some years ago, collecting 2682 objects. the list is far away from being complete or up to date... http://www.parasitaere-kapazitaeten.net/files/GENERAL_ALL.csv_.txt I already

Re: [PD-dev] Proposals for object categories

2009-02-27 Thread marius schebella
may I suggest the following category structure Pd world series top 40 frank's special blend other utilities objects that might crash the ones I almost never use not allowed during war ... marius. 2009/2/27 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca: On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: i

Re: [PD-dev] Proposals for object categories

2009-02-28 Thread marius schebella
Luke Iannini wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, marius schebella wrote: Pd world series top 40 frank's special blend other utilities objects that might crash the ones I almost never use not allowed during war Other