Re: [PD-dev] Join the Compile Farm (was Re: 64-bit build for, Windows?)

2010-09-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


If you are still game, I would start with the code from git, and once  
you get that working, then you can try to take on Pd-extended!  That  
means compiling lots of libraries.


.hc

On Sep 9, 2010, at 2:57 AM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Hi,

I got some help from a hackerlab here in Toulouse, tetalab.org. A  
lot of cursing and swearing after Windows as you can imagine! :)


I think we have managed to install most of the tool chain last night.
We followed the instructions for the 32bit tool chain. Most of the  
tool chain is 32bit programs but MingW, which is 64bit. We got to  
the stage of the ASIO SDK (included).
It was late when we finished and didn't have the time to try and run  
a compilation.


Should I get the source from the git or the svn?
I've seen you switched over the last weeks.

If I can recollect all he did, I'll try to add that to the wiki page.

See you on IRC. My alias is 'pob'.

Cheers
Pierre-Olivier



On 09/09/2010 01:58, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Hey Pierre Olivier,

Glad to hear you are back on the project!  mescalinum has made some  
progress on this in the meantime, and added to the documentation on  
the wiki:


http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Windows64BitMinGWX64

You can also often find mescalinum and me (_hc) on IRC chat in 
irc://irc.freenode.net/dataflow

.hc


On Sep 8, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Hello,

I'm still alive. I've been quite busy. I have a little more time  
now and I'm getting some help with the setup of the compilation  
environment for Windows 64. Hopefully this evening we'll get it to  
work. I'll tell you how it goes.


Cheers
Pierre-Olivier





On 09/07/2010 17:55, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


You can put the SVN files anywhere.  Having no spaces in the path  
is probably good, but maybe not mandatory.


Cygwin is useful to have and can't hurt as far as I know.

.hc

On Jul 8, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Tortoisesvn is getting all the files from svn.
Is there somewhere special I should download them to? I used a  
folder on a secondary partition to keep the main partition being  
overflowed with compilation files.

F:\pd-ext-compilation\svn\sources\...

I couldn't find any hints on WindowsMinGW wiki as what functions  
I needed. I'll give it a first try wit the old version. And I'll  
look into the newer files a bit later.



With MinGW, MSYS, should I get Cygwin too?

pob


On 08/07/2010 22:30, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


On Jul 8, 2010, at 4:24 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


I used the old MSYS 1.0.11.
I didn't catch all I should do with the newer ones.
There are several base system/CORE files and for the  
functions too. Which one(s) is/are the one(s) I need to  
download. (bin ext doc dbg dev src lic) ? All of them? Is  
there a way in Sourceforge to get all files in one go instead  
of one by one.


You probably don't need everything.  I'd follow the  
WindowsMinGW page on that.


Can I just overwrite the old versions with the newer ones so  
as to keep the general structure of MSYS? Or is this bad  
practice?


I've generally deleted the old copies before installing new ones.

Do I need to install tortoisesvn to get the pd-extended 0.42.5  
svn?


You need either SVN or rsync.  The command line versions of  
both are in Cygwin and easy to install there.  You could also  
use tortoisesvn



Sorry again for the beginner's questions. :)


Keep them coming, getting 64-bit builds on Windows will be a  
valuable contribution!


.hc


pob


On 08/07/2010 21:49, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Its not as complicated as it looks, its mostly a matter of  
getting the files in the right places.  You should also  
install MSYS, check the WindowsMinGW page for how.  But  
perhaps you should use a newer version of MSYS.  Then try a  
build, download the Pd-extended source, and do this from the  
MSYS shell:


cd pd/src
make -f makefile.mingw

My guess is that the 64-bit instructions are going to end up  
looking quite similar to the WindowsMinGW page.


.hc

On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Hello Hans and everyone,

Thank you for the encouragment. It might take time, indeed. :)

OK, I installed the tdm-gcc.tdragon.net x32 and x64 MinGW.



On 08/07/2010 21:09, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Working on this is definitely not a waste of time, but it  
is not a simple project.  We all start somewhere, so  
motivation is the key rather than skills.


I would avoid trying to build anything and instead install  
from binaries.  Building compilers can be a real pain.   
Cygwin is quite easy to install, so I see no harm in  
installing it.


I created a wiki page to document our progress, everyone  
should write notes there:

https://puredata.info/docs/developer/Windows64BitMinGWX64




Upon looking at it, I think a good place to start is by  
downloading the most recent of mingw-w64-bin-x86_64:


http://www.drangon.org/mingw/

This looks even more promising though:

Re: [PD-dev] Join the Compile Farm (was Re: 64-bit build for, Windows?)

2010-09-17 Thread Pierre-Olivier Boulant

 Hi,

I haven't given up.
I've seen Mescalinum has succeeded in a first compilation. That's great 
news and also the release of pd-ext 0.42.5.
I have a lot of work until the end of the month as I told you, I won't 
have much time to look into this.

I'll get back to you as soon as I get this exhibition up.

I'm making fake archives for he first man on the Moon who wasn't 
American as we all think, but from some forlorn part of the countryside 
where they ran out of pastures for their cows and had to terraform the 
Moon to have more fields for grazing.
The basic question out of all this might be why aren't rural cultures 
very conquering powers?


Cheers
pob



On 17/09/2010 20:37, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


If you are still game, I would start with the code from git, and once 
you get that working, then you can try to take on Pd-extended!  That 
means compiling lots of libraries.


.hc

On Sep 9, 2010, at 2:57 AM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Hi,

I got some help from a hackerlab here in Toulouse, tetalab.org. A lot 
of cursing and swearing after Windows as you can imagine! :)


I think we have managed to install most of the tool chain last night.
We followed the instructions for the 32bit tool chain. Most of the 
tool chain is 32bit programs but MingW, which is 64bit. We got to the 
stage of the ASIO SDK (included).
It was late when we finished and didn't have the time to try and run 
a compilation.


Should I get the source from the git or the svn?
I've seen you switched over the last weeks.

If I can recollect all he did, I'll try to add that to the wiki page.

See you on IRC. My alias is 'pob'.

Cheers
Pierre-Olivier



On 09/09/2010 01:58, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Hey Pierre Olivier,

Glad to hear you are back on the project!  mescalinum has made some 
progress on this in the meantime, and added to the documentation on 
the wiki:


http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Windows64BitMinGWX64

You can also often find mescalinum and me (_hc) on IRC chat in 
irc://irc.freenode.net/dataflow


.hc


On Sep 8, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Hello,

I'm still alive. I've been quite busy. I have a little more time 
now and I'm getting some help with the setup of the compilation 
environment for Windows 64. Hopefully this evening we'll get it to 
work. I'll tell you how it goes.


Cheers
Pierre-Olivier





On 09/07/2010 17:55, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


You can put the SVN files anywhere.  Having no spaces in the path 
is probably good, but maybe not mandatory.


Cygwin is useful to have and can't hurt as far as I know.

.hc

On Jul 8, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Tortoisesvn is getting all the files from svn.
Is there somewhere special I should download them to? I used a 
folder on a secondary partition to keep the main partition being 
overflowed with compilation files.

F:\pd-ext-compilation\svn\sources\...

I couldn't find any hints on WindowsMinGW wiki as what functions 
I needed. I'll give it a first try wit the old version. And I'll 
look into the newer files a bit later.



With MinGW, MSYS, should I get Cygwin too?

pob


On 08/07/2010 22:30, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


On Jul 8, 2010, at 4:24 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


I used the old MSYS 1.0.11.
I didn't catch all I should do with the newer ones.
There are several base system/CORE files and for the 
functions too. Which one(s) is/are the one(s) I need to 
download. (bin ext doc dbg dev src lic) ? All of them? Is there 
a way in Sourceforge to get all files in one go instead of one 
by one.


You probably don't need everything.  I'd follow the WindowsMinGW 
page on that.


Can I just overwrite the old versions with the newer ones so as 
to keep the general structure of MSYS? Or is this bad practice?


I've generally deleted the old copies before installing new ones.

Do I need to install tortoisesvn to get the pd-extended 0.42.5 
svn?


You need either SVN or rsync.  The command line versions of both 
are in Cygwin and easy to install there.  You could also use 
tortoisesvn



Sorry again for the beginner's questions. :)


Keep them coming, getting 64-bit builds on Windows will be a 
valuable contribution!


.hc


pob


On 08/07/2010 21:49, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Its not as complicated as it looks, its mostly a matter of 
getting the files in the right places.  You should also 
install MSYS, check the WindowsMinGW page for how.  But 
perhaps you should use a newer version of MSYS.  Then try a 
build, download the Pd-extended source, and do this from the 
MSYS shell:


cd pd/src
make -f makefile.mingw

My guess is that the 64-bit instructions are going to end up 
looking quite similar to the WindowsMinGW page.


.hc

On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Hello Hans and everyone,

Thank you for the encouragment. It might take time, indeed. :)

OK, I installed the tdm-gcc.tdragon.net x32 and x64 MinGW.



On 08/07/2010 21:09, Hans-Christoph Steiner 

Re: [PD-dev] Join the Compile Farm (was Re: 64-bit build for, Windows?)

2010-09-17 Thread András Murányi
I was just taking a look at how many different nightly builds we have vs.
the PdLab page vs. the current buildbot setup.
Please update me with these:
Debian squeeze, Debian etch : chroot on 128.238.56.50, right?
Ubuntu Hardy LPIA : chroot on 128.238.56.55
Ubuntu Karmic i386, Ubuntu Karmic LPIA : chroot on 128.238.56.55 ? there is
just one other chroot directory there which is called hardy...

Andras
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Re: [PD-dev] Join the Compile Farm (was Re: 64-bit build for, Windows?)

2010-09-09 Thread Pierre-Olivier Boulant

 Hi,

I got some help from a hackerlab here in Toulouse, tetalab.org. A lot of 
cursing and swearing after Windows as you can imagine! :)


I think we have managed to install most of the tool chain last night.
We followed the instructions for the 32bit tool chain. Most of the tool 
chain is 32bit programs but MingW, which is 64bit. We got to the stage 
of the ASIO SDK (included).
It was late when we finished and didn't have the time to try and run a 
compilation.


Should I get the source from the git or the svn?
I've seen you switched over the last weeks.

If I can recollect all he did, I'll try to add that to the wiki page.

See you on IRC. My alias is 'pob'.

Cheers
Pierre-Olivier



On 09/09/2010 01:58, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Hey Pierre Olivier,

Glad to hear you are back on the project!  mescalinum has made some 
progress on this in the meantime, and added to the documentation on 
the wiki:


http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Windows64BitMinGWX64

You can also often find mescalinum and me (_hc) on IRC chat in 
irc://irc.freenode.net/dataflow


.hc


On Sep 8, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Hello,

I'm still alive. I've been quite busy. I have a little more time now 
and I'm getting some help with the setup of the compilation 
environment for Windows 64. Hopefully this evening we'll get it to 
work. I'll tell you how it goes.


Cheers
Pierre-Olivier





On 09/07/2010 17:55, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


You can put the SVN files anywhere.  Having no spaces in the path is 
probably good, but maybe not mandatory.


Cygwin is useful to have and can't hurt as far as I know.

.hc

On Jul 8, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Tortoisesvn is getting all the files from svn.
Is there somewhere special I should download them to? I used a 
folder on a secondary partition to keep the main partition being 
overflowed with compilation files.

F:\pd-ext-compilation\svn\sources\...

I couldn't find any hints on WindowsMinGW wiki as what functions I 
needed. I'll give it a first try wit the old version. And I'll look 
into the newer files a bit later.



With MinGW, MSYS, should I get Cygwin too?

pob


On 08/07/2010 22:30, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


On Jul 8, 2010, at 4:24 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


I used the old MSYS 1.0.11.
I didn't catch all I should do with the newer ones.
There are several base system/CORE files and for the 
functions too. Which one(s) is/are the one(s) I need to download. 
(bin ext doc dbg dev src lic) ? All of them? Is there a way in 
Sourceforge to get all files in one go instead of one by one.


You probably don't need everything.  I'd follow the WindowsMinGW 
page on that.


Can I just overwrite the old versions with the newer ones so as 
to keep the general structure of MSYS? Or is this bad practice?


I've generally deleted the old copies before installing new ones.


Do I need to install tortoisesvn to get the pd-extended 0.42.5 svn?


You need either SVN or rsync.  The command line versions of both 
are in Cygwin and easy to install there.  You could also use 
tortoisesvn



Sorry again for the beginner's questions. :)


Keep them coming, getting 64-bit builds on Windows will be a 
valuable contribution!


.hc


pob


On 08/07/2010 21:49, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Its not as complicated as it looks, its mostly a matter of 
getting the files in the right places.  You should also install 
MSYS, check the WindowsMinGW page for how.  But perhaps you 
should use a newer version of MSYS.  Then try a build, download 
the Pd-extended source, and do this from the MSYS shell:


cd pd/src
make -f makefile.mingw

My guess is that the 64-bit instructions are going to end up 
looking quite similar to the WindowsMinGW page.


.hc

On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Hello Hans and everyone,

Thank you for the encouragment. It might take time, indeed. :)

OK, I installed the tdm-gcc.tdragon.net x32 and x64 MinGW.



On 08/07/2010 21:09, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Working on this is definitely not a waste of time, but it is 
not a simple project.  We all start somewhere, so motivation 
is the key rather than skills.


I would avoid trying to build anything and instead install 
from binaries.  Building compilers can be a real pain.  Cygwin 
is quite easy to install, so I see no harm in installing it.


I created a wiki page to document our progress, everyone 
should write notes there:

https://puredata.info/docs/developer/Windows64BitMinGWX64




Upon looking at it, I think a good place to start is by 
downloading the most recent of mingw-w64-bin-x86_64:


http://www.drangon.org/mingw/

This looks even more promising though:
http://tdm-gcc.tdragon.net/




.hc

On Jul 2, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Hello everyone,

I'm new here. I've offered to help with the Windows 64bit 
build. I'm really new to compiling software, so I'll probalby 
need some help to get started. If you think this is 

Re: [PD-dev] Join the Compile Farm (was Re: 64-bit build for, Windows?)

2010-09-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Hey Pierre Olivier,

Glad to hear you are back on the project!  mescalinum has made some  
progress on this in the meantime, and added to the documentation on  
the wiki:


http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Windows64BitMinGWX64

You can also often find mescalinum and me (_hc) on IRC chat in 
irc://irc.freenode.net/dataflow

.hc


On Sep 8, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Hello,

I'm still alive. I've been quite busy. I have a little more time now  
and I'm getting some help with the setup of the compilation  
environment for Windows 64. Hopefully this evening we'll get it to  
work. I'll tell you how it goes.


Cheers
Pierre-Olivier





On 09/07/2010 17:55, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


You can put the SVN files anywhere.  Having no spaces in the path  
is probably good, but maybe not mandatory.


Cygwin is useful to have and can't hurt as far as I know.

.hc

On Jul 8, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Tortoisesvn is getting all the files from svn.
Is there somewhere special I should download them to? I used a  
folder on a secondary partition to keep the main partition being  
overflowed with compilation files.

F:\pd-ext-compilation\svn\sources\...

I couldn't find any hints on WindowsMinGW wiki as what functions I  
needed. I'll give it a first try wit the old version. And I'll  
look into the newer files a bit later.



With MinGW, MSYS, should I get Cygwin too?

pob


On 08/07/2010 22:30, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


On Jul 8, 2010, at 4:24 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


I used the old MSYS 1.0.11.
I didn't catch all I should do with the newer ones.
There are several base system/CORE files and for the  
functions too. Which one(s) is/are the one(s) I need to  
download. (bin ext doc dbg dev src lic) ? All of them? Is there  
a way in Sourceforge to get all files in one go instead of one  
by one.


You probably don't need everything.  I'd follow the WindowsMinGW  
page on that.


Can I just overwrite the old versions with the newer ones so as  
to keep the general structure of MSYS? Or is this bad practice?


I've generally deleted the old copies before installing new ones.

Do I need to install tortoisesvn to get the pd-extended 0.42.5  
svn?


You need either SVN or rsync.  The command line versions of both  
are in Cygwin and easy to install there.  You could also use  
tortoisesvn



Sorry again for the beginner's questions. :)


Keep them coming, getting 64-bit builds on Windows will be a  
valuable contribution!


.hc


pob


On 08/07/2010 21:49, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Its not as complicated as it looks, its mostly a matter of  
getting the files in the right places.  You should also install  
MSYS, check the WindowsMinGW page for how.  But perhaps you  
should use a newer version of MSYS.  Then try a build, download  
the Pd-extended source, and do this from the MSYS shell:


cd pd/src
make -f makefile.mingw

My guess is that the 64-bit instructions are going to end up  
looking quite similar to the WindowsMinGW page.


.hc

On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Hello Hans and everyone,

Thank you for the encouragment. It might take time, indeed. :)

OK, I installed the tdm-gcc.tdragon.net x32 and x64 MinGW.



On 08/07/2010 21:09, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Working on this is definitely not a waste of time, but it is  
not a simple project.  We all start somewhere, so motivation  
is the key rather than skills.


I would avoid trying to build anything and instead install  
from binaries.  Building compilers can be a real pain.   
Cygwin is quite easy to install, so I see no harm in  
installing it.


I created a wiki page to document our progress, everyone  
should write notes there:

https://puredata.info/docs/developer/Windows64BitMinGWX64




Upon looking at it, I think a good place to start is by  
downloading the most recent of mingw-w64-bin-x86_64:


http://www.drangon.org/mingw/

This looks even more promising though:
http://tdm-gcc.tdragon.net/




.hc

On Jul 2, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Hello everyone,

I'm new here. I've offered to help with the Windows 64bit  
build. I'm really new to compiling software, so I'll  
probalby need some help to get started. If you think this is  
unmanageable for a beginner don't be afraid to tell me so. I  
have some good will and patience, but I don't want to waste  
anyone's time. :)



I'm reading the MinGW-w64 pages on Sourceforge.
I should be looking for a native compiler for w64, but I  
can't seem to find any. I suppose since it's a native  
compiler I can build it myself. Is this correct. Then,  
should I download a tarball and compile from the source?

Otherwise I found what seems to be a native version here:
http://www.drangon.org/mingw/

I cannont find either the MinGW-get installer mentioned on  
the 32bit version of the instructions. I suppose there is  
nothing similar for the 64bit version for the time being.



I suppose I 

Re: [PD-dev] Join the Compile Farm (was Re: 64-bit build for, Windows?)

2010-07-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Its not as complicated as it looks, its mostly a matter of getting the  
files in the right places.  You should also install MSYS, check the  
WindowsMinGW page for how.  But perhaps you should use a newer version  
of MSYS.  Then try a build, download the Pd-extended source, and do  
this from the MSYS shell:


cd pd/src
make -f makefile.mingw

My guess is that the 64-bit instructions are going to end up looking  
quite similar to the WindowsMinGW page.


.hc

On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Hello Hans and everyone,

Thank you for the encouragment. It might take time, indeed. :)

OK, I installed the tdm-gcc.tdragon.net x32 and x64 MinGW.



On 08/07/2010 21:09, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Working on this is definitely not a waste of time, but it is not a  
simple project.  We all start somewhere, so motivation is the key  
rather than skills.


I would avoid trying to build anything and instead install from  
binaries.  Building compilers can be a real pain.  Cygwin is quite  
easy to install, so I see no harm in installing it.


I created a wiki page to document our progress, everyone should  
write notes there:

https://puredata.info/docs/developer/Windows64BitMinGWX64




Upon looking at it, I think a good place to start is by downloading  
the most recent of mingw-w64-bin-x86_64:


http://www.drangon.org/mingw/

This looks even more promising though:
http://tdm-gcc.tdragon.net/




.hc

On Jul 2, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Hello everyone,

I'm new here. I've offered to help with the Windows 64bit build.  
I'm really new to compiling software, so I'll probalby need some  
help to get started. If you think this is unmanageable for a  
beginner don't be afraid to tell me so. I have some good will and  
patience, but I don't want to waste anyone's time. :)



I'm reading the MinGW-w64 pages on Sourceforge.
I should be looking for a native compiler for w64, but I can't  
seem to find any. I suppose since it's a native compiler I can  
build it myself. Is this correct. Then, should I download a  
tarball and compile from the source?

Otherwise I found what seems to be a native version here:
http://www.drangon.org/mingw/

I cannont find either the MinGW-get installer mentioned on the  
32bit version of the instructions. I suppose there is nothing  
similar for the 64bit version for the time being.



I suppose I have to get Cygwin for compilation too. Anything I  
should pay special attention to concerning this?



Thanks for your help
Pierre-Olivier



On 02/07/2010 22:46, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


A Windows 7 build sounds like a good idea.  The first place to  
start is getting a MinGW-w64 build environment setup.  If you get  
that installed, then first try just building the core of pd- 
extended without all the libraries.  That shouldn't be too hard  
to get going.

http://mingw-w64.sourceforge.net/

Here is the whole instructions for the 32-bit environment:
http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WindowsMinGW

Perhaps it makes sense to continue this discussion on pd-dev?

.hc

On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Hello,

I've been using Puredata for a year now and I'd be glad to help  
with the new release.
I'll be getting a new computer for performances in the coming up  
week.


It will be an Asus N82 (it's not on their website at the moment).
Intel Core i7 - 720QM (quad core) with 4GB of RAM an Nvidia  
Geforce GT335M
The OS is a Windows 7 64bit. I might install some linux distro  
too alongside the original OS.


I can leave the computer on as much as needed for the autobuild  
process. I will use the computer for my own too. But I can leave  
it on at night.


I don't know if you want specifically Windows XP or if Windows 7  
which is more and more widespread now can do too.


You can contact me with this email or with skype (same email  
address).


Cheers
Pierre-Olivier







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one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better  
language; and every chapter must be so translated -John Donne




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Re: [PD-dev] Join the Compile Farm (was Re: 64-bit build for, Windows?)

2010-07-08 Thread Pierre-Olivier Boulant

I used the old MSYS 1.0.11.
I didn't catch all I should do with the newer ones.
There are several base system/CORE files and for the functions too. 
Which one(s) is/are the one(s) I need to download. (bin ext doc dbg dev 
src lic) ? All of them? Is there a way in Sourceforge to get all files 
in one go instead of one by one.


Can I just overwrite the old versions with the newer ones so as to keep 
the general structure of MSYS? Or is this bad practice?



Do I need to install tortoisesvn to get the pd-extended 0.42.5 svn?


Sorry again for the beginner's questions. :)

pob


On 08/07/2010 21:49, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Its not as complicated as it looks, its mostly a matter of getting the 
files in the right places.  You should also install MSYS, check the 
WindowsMinGW page for how.  But perhaps you should use a newer version 
of MSYS.  Then try a build, download the Pd-extended source, and do 
this from the MSYS shell:


cd pd/src
make -f makefile.mingw

My guess is that the 64-bit instructions are going to end up looking 
quite similar to the WindowsMinGW page.


.hc

On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Hello Hans and everyone,

Thank you for the encouragment. It might take time, indeed. :)

OK, I installed the tdm-gcc.tdragon.net x32 and x64 MinGW.



On 08/07/2010 21:09, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Working on this is definitely not a waste of time, but it is not a 
simple project.  We all start somewhere, so motivation is the key 
rather than skills.


I would avoid trying to build anything and instead install from 
binaries.  Building compilers can be a real pain.  Cygwin is quite 
easy to install, so I see no harm in installing it.


I created a wiki page to document our progress, everyone should 
write notes there:

https://puredata.info/docs/developer/Windows64BitMinGWX64




Upon looking at it, I think a good place to start is by downloading 
the most recent of mingw-w64-bin-x86_64:


http://www.drangon.org/mingw/

This looks even more promising though:
http://tdm-gcc.tdragon.net/




.hc

On Jul 2, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Hello everyone,

I'm new here. I've offered to help with the Windows 64bit build. 
I'm really new to compiling software, so I'll probalby need some 
help to get started. If you think this is unmanageable for a 
beginner don't be afraid to tell me so. I have some good will and 
patience, but I don't want to waste anyone's time. :)



I'm reading the MinGW-w64 pages on Sourceforge.
I should be looking for a native compiler for w64, but I can't seem 
to find any. I suppose since it's a native compiler I can build it 
myself. Is this correct. Then, should I download a tarball and 
compile from the source?

Otherwise I found what seems to be a native version here:
http://www.drangon.org/mingw/

I cannont find either the MinGW-get installer mentioned on the 
32bit version of the instructions. I suppose there is nothing 
similar for the 64bit version for the time being.



I suppose I have to get Cygwin for compilation too. Anything I 
should pay special attention to concerning this?



Thanks for your help
Pierre-Olivier



On 02/07/2010 22:46, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


A Windows 7 build sounds like a good idea.  The first place to 
start is getting a MinGW-w64 build environment setup.  If you get 
that installed, then first try just building the core of 
pd-extended without all the libraries.  That shouldn't be too hard 
to get going.

http://mingw-w64.sourceforge.net/

Here is the whole instructions for the 32-bit environment:
http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WindowsMinGW

Perhaps it makes sense to continue this discussion on pd-dev?

.hc

On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Hello,

I've been using Puredata for a year now and I'd be glad to help 
with the new release.
I'll be getting a new computer for performances in the coming up 
week.


It will be an Asus N82 (it's not on their website at the moment).
Intel Core i7 - 720QM (quad core) with 4GB of RAM an Nvidia 
Geforce GT335M
The OS is a Windows 7 64bit. I might install some linux distro 
too alongside the original OS.


I can leave the computer on as much as needed for the autobuild 
process. I will use the computer for my own too. But I can leave 
it on at night.


I don't know if you want specifically Windows XP or if Windows 7 
which is more and more widespread now can do too.


You can contact me with this email or with skype (same email 
address).


Cheers
Pierre-Olivier





 



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one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better 
language; and every chapter must be so translated -John Donne






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Re: [PD-dev] Join the Compile Farm (was Re: 64-bit build for, Windows?)

2010-07-08 Thread Pierre-Olivier Boulant

Tortoisesvn is getting all the files from svn.
Is there somewhere special I should download them to? I used a folder on 
a secondary partition to keep the main partition being overflowed with 
compilation files.

F:\pd-ext-compilation\svn\sources\...

I couldn't find any hints on WindowsMinGW wiki as what functions I 
needed. I'll give it a first try wit the old version. And I'll look into 
the newer files a bit later.



With MinGW, MSYS, should I get Cygwin too?

pob


On 08/07/2010 22:30, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


On Jul 8, 2010, at 4:24 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


I used the old MSYS 1.0.11.
I didn't catch all I should do with the newer ones.
There are several base system/CORE files and for the functions 
too. Which one(s) is/are the one(s) I need to download. (bin ext doc 
dbg dev src lic) ? All of them? Is there a way in Sourceforge to get 
all files in one go instead of one by one.


You probably don't need everything.  I'd follow the WindowsMinGW page 
on that.


Can I just overwrite the old versions with the newer ones so as to 
keep the general structure of MSYS? Or is this bad practice?


I've generally deleted the old copies before installing new ones.


Do I need to install tortoisesvn to get the pd-extended 0.42.5 svn?


You need either SVN or rsync.  The command line versions of both are 
in Cygwin and easy to install there.  You could also use tortoisesvn



Sorry again for the beginner's questions. :)


Keep them coming, getting 64-bit builds on Windows will be a valuable 
contribution!


.hc


pob


On 08/07/2010 21:49, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Its not as complicated as it looks, its mostly a matter of getting 
the files in the right places.  You should also install MSYS, check 
the WindowsMinGW page for how.  But perhaps you should use a newer 
version of MSYS.  Then try a build, download the Pd-extended source, 
and do this from the MSYS shell:


cd pd/src
make -f makefile.mingw

My guess is that the 64-bit instructions are going to end up looking 
quite similar to the WindowsMinGW page.


.hc

On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Hello Hans and everyone,

Thank you for the encouragment. It might take time, indeed. :)

OK, I installed the tdm-gcc.tdragon.net x32 and x64 MinGW.



On 08/07/2010 21:09, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Working on this is definitely not a waste of time, but it is not a 
simple project.  We all start somewhere, so motivation is the key 
rather than skills.


I would avoid trying to build anything and instead install from 
binaries.  Building compilers can be a real pain.  Cygwin is quite 
easy to install, so I see no harm in installing it.


I created a wiki page to document our progress, everyone should 
write notes there:

https://puredata.info/docs/developer/Windows64BitMinGWX64




Upon looking at it, I think a good place to start is by 
downloading the most recent of mingw-w64-bin-x86_64:


http://www.drangon.org/mingw/

This looks even more promising though:
http://tdm-gcc.tdragon.net/




.hc

On Jul 2, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Hello everyone,

I'm new here. I've offered to help with the Windows 64bit build. 
I'm really new to compiling software, so I'll probalby need some 
help to get started. If you think this is unmanageable for a 
beginner don't be afraid to tell me so. I have some good will and 
patience, but I don't want to waste anyone's time. :)



I'm reading the MinGW-w64 pages on Sourceforge.
I should be looking for a native compiler for w64, but I can't 
seem to find any. I suppose since it's a native compiler I can 
build it myself. Is this correct. Then, should I download a 
tarball and compile from the source?

Otherwise I found what seems to be a native version here:
http://www.drangon.org/mingw/

I cannont find either the MinGW-get installer mentioned on the 
32bit version of the instructions. I suppose there is nothing 
similar for the 64bit version for the time being.



I suppose I have to get Cygwin for compilation too. Anything I 
should pay special attention to concerning this?



Thanks for your help
Pierre-Olivier



On 02/07/2010 22:46, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


A Windows 7 build sounds like a good idea.  The first place to 
start is getting a MinGW-w64 build environment setup.  If you 
get that installed, then first try just building the core of 
pd-extended without all the libraries.  That shouldn't be too 
hard to get going.

http://mingw-w64.sourceforge.net/

Here is the whole instructions for the 32-bit environment:
http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WindowsMinGW

Perhaps it makes sense to continue this discussion on pd-dev?

.hc

On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Hello,

I've been using Puredata for a year now and I'd be glad to help 
with the new release.
I'll be getting a new computer for performances in the coming 
up week.


It will be an Asus N82 (it's not on their website at the moment).
Intel Core i7 - 720QM 

Re: [PD-dev] Join the Compile Farm (was Re: 64-bit build for, Windows?)

2010-07-02 Thread Pierre-Olivier Boulant

Hello everyone,

I'm new here. I've offered to help with the Windows 64bit build. I'm 
really new to compiling software, so I'll probalby need some help to get 
started. If you think this is unmanageable for a beginner don't be 
afraid to tell me so. I have some good will and patience, but I don't 
want to waste anyone's time. :)



I'm reading the MinGW-w64 pages on Sourceforge.
I should be looking for a native compiler for w64, but I can't seem to 
find any. I suppose since it's a native compiler I can build it myself. 
Is this correct. Then, should I download a tarball and compile from the 
source?

Otherwise I found what seems to be a native version here:
http://www.drangon.org/mingw/

I cannont find either the MinGW-get installer mentioned on the 32bit 
version of the instructions. I suppose there is nothing similar for the 
64bit version for the time being.



I suppose I have to get Cygwin for compilation too. Anything I should 
pay special attention to concerning this?



Thanks for your help
Pierre-Olivier



On 02/07/2010 22:46, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


A Windows 7 build sounds like a good idea.  The first place to start 
is getting a MinGW-w64 build environment setup.  If you get that 
installed, then first try just building the core of pd-extended 
without all the libraries.  That shouldn't be too hard to get going.

http://mingw-w64.sourceforge.net/

Here is the whole instructions for the 32-bit environment:
http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WindowsMinGW

Perhaps it makes sense to continue this discussion on pd-dev?

.hc

On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:


Hello,

I've been using Puredata for a year now and I'd be glad to help with 
the new release.

I'll be getting a new computer for performances in the coming up week.

It will be an Asus N82 (it's not on their website at the moment).
Intel Core i7 - 720QM (quad core) with 4GB of RAM an Nvidia Geforce 
GT335M
The OS is a Windows 7 64bit. I might install some linux distro too 
alongside the original OS.


I can leave the computer on as much as needed for the autobuild 
process. I will use the computer for my own too. But I can leave it 
on at night.


I don't know if you want specifically Windows XP or if Windows 7 
which is more and more widespread now can do too.


You can contact me with this email or with skype (same email address).

Cheers
Pierre-Olivier


--


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-o- www.puffskydd.net -o-
~   www.flickr.com/pob31/sets   ~
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