Re: [PD-dev] more on the 12 point font mystery

2007-09-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007, Miller Puckette wrote: Second, I gather that lucida isn't guaranteed to be installed in linux or other flavors of unix (BSD, anyone?) In particular, the default install of Fedora/Gnome doesn't seem to have it. So Pd has to be able to do something appropriate when lucida is

Re: [PD-dev] more on the 12 point font mystery

2007-09-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 22, 2007, at 10:00 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: > Hi HC, > > Two issues I don't know how to deal with yet: first, although I > agree the > fonts you're using seem to have nearly consistent sizes, they are > smaller > than the "traditional" sizes so everyone's existing patches will > lo

Re: [PD-dev] more on the 12 point font mystery

2007-09-22 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi HC, Two issues I don't know how to deal with yet: first, although I agree the fonts you're using seem to have nearly consistent sizes, they are smaller than the "traditional" sizes so everyone's existing patches will look wrong. For compatibilty's sake Pd should somehow read old patches with th

Re: [PD-dev] more on the 12 point font mystery

2007-09-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey, I just added Windows picks of the fonttest.tcl. If you at those images in sequence, you can see there are only really tiny variations on each platform, EXCEPT 12 point on GNU/Linux. Strange, but that's the way it seems to be. As for the existing size measuring code, I think it was p

Re: [PD-dev] more on the 12 point font mystery

2007-09-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
You can get it in the link I posted at the start of this thread: http://pow.idmi.poly.edu/~hans/pdfonts/fonttest/fonttest.tcl .hc On Sep 22, 2007, at 6:15 PM, federico wrote: > sorry but I couldn't find fonttest.tcl on my computer, and even with > google. can you post a link, or the script its

Re: [PD-dev] more on the 12 point font mystery

2007-09-22 Thread federico
sorry but I couldn't find fonttest.tcl on my computer, and even with google. can you post a link, or the script itself? On 9/22/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 8.4.14+cvs on Mac OS X > > 8.4.12 on Ubuntu/feisty > > Please take screenshots of fonttest.tcl on 8.5, I'd be in

Re: [PD-dev] more on the 12 point font mystery

2007-09-22 Thread Miller Puckette
HI HC, Pd has code automatically to do that, which is disabled in your font patch for some reason: /* best is now the host font index for the desired font index i. */ sys_fontlist[i].fi_hostfontsize = atom_getintarg(3 * best + 2, argc, argv); sys_fontlist[i

Re: [PD-dev] more on the 12 point font mystery

2007-09-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
8.4.14+cvs on Mac OS X 8.4.12 on Ubuntu/feisty Please take screenshots of fonttest.tcl on 8.5, I'd be interested to see how it compares. Also, if you want to do the measurements that would be also good to have. .hc On Sep 22, 2007, at 6:27 AM, federico wrote: > which is your version of T

Re: [PD-dev] more on the 12 point font mystery

2007-09-22 Thread federico
which is your version of Tk? please note that when I switched to Tk-8.5 with xft support (anti-aliased fonts) I found even bigger fonts while looking at my old tcl/tk projects shall we collect again the information, for filling a matrix of font sizes? note: the matrix this time would have to be t

[PD-dev] more on the 12 point font mystery

2007-09-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I decided to take Pd out of the equation, so I did a quick test using just Tcl/Tk on Mac OS X and Ubuntu Studio. It looks like it confirms what I am talking about: for some reason 12 point is big on GNU/ Linux. So I think we can handle this by forcing 12 point fonts to actually use 11 poi