Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-13 Thread Winfried Ritsch
Hello, My preference ist to name of binary pd double precision: pd - since all my scripts calling pd can use double precision if I install it instead of pd. - most want just double precision or not - the ones with need of both, can hold them in seperate pathes like "dp/pd",

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-12 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
2:00 PM, pd-dev-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: Message: 1 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 09:08:36 +0200 From: IOhannes m zm?lnig To:pd-dev@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" On 6/8/23 15:23, IOhan

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-12 Thread Dan Wilcox
equ...@lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 09:08:36 +0200 > From: IOhannes m zm?lnig mailto:zmoel...@iem.at>> > To: pd-dev@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-dev@lists.iem.at> > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd? > Message-ID: <mailto:d02e

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-12 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 6/8/23 15:23, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: Oh no, compilation will be complex. Not really. You basically have to build twice... oh no, i forgot about the intricacies of the windows build. with macOS and Linux we have this nice single "pd" binary (or "pd64"). but with Windows we need the

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-10 Thread Dan Wilcox
It will work and I don't think separate apps would be needed. The executable within the .app bundle (Contents/MacOS/Pd) is just the renamed Wish executable which calls the Tk GUI which, in turn, starts the pd core which could be either 32 or 64 bit float precision. This could be selectable via

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-09 Thread Aditi DeAngelis
TBH, I think the real issue here is external compatibility. End users need to know if their version is going to have the externals they need. Given how often external libraries get abandoned, the need for re-compilation is a non-trivial issue. I think this puts me in favor of clear separation.

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-08 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
Am 8. Juni 2023 11:15:17 MESZ schrieb Lucas Cordiviola : >How hard it would be to have both apps together in a single "Pure data" >package: > Interesting idea. Esp for the windows packages (both the zip and the installer) I think that would make a lot of sense. For the macOS app, I don't know

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-08 Thread Dan Wilcox
From: IOhannes m zmoelnig mailto:zmoel...@iem.at>> > To: pd-dev@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-dev@lists.iem.at> > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd? > Message-ID: <5cf4aa6d-c70e-8fd3-993a-e4d1b49d1...@iem.at > <mailto:5cf4aa6d-c70e-8fd3-993a-e4d1b49d1...@iem.at>>

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-08 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
How hard it would be to have both apps together in a single "Pure data" package: Oh no, compilation will be complex. -- Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@lists.iem.at

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-08 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
How hard it would be to have both apps together in a single "Pure data" package: $ pd $ pd64 ? -- Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. On 07/06/2023 16:25, cyrille henry wrote: Hello, BTW, did anyone made a benchmark : "pd double" will of course be lot's slower on 32 bit

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-07 Thread cyrille henry
Hello, BTW, did anyone made a benchmark : "pd double" will of course be lot's slower on 32 bit architecture, but what about 64 bit architecture? Will "pd double" perform as fast as "pd float" on modern computer? or do we need to have both version installed on the same computer? (some patch need

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-07 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Em qua., 7 de jun. de 2023 às 11:43, IOhannes m zmoelnig escreveu: > i think one of the questions is, where the name will actually be exposed. > > - of course, the webpage (https://msp.ucsd.edu/, https://puredata.info/) > cou use whatever descriptive name to lure the people into downloading >

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 6/7/23 12:55, Antoine Rousseau wrote: Le mer. 7 juin 2023 à 10:47, Lucas Cordiviola a écrit : For me pd64 gives more chances of confusion than pdd or pdpd. (...) Starting with a new name of the app seems the most sane. Funnily, my personal feeling is the opposite :-) I feel that

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-07 Thread Antoine Rousseau
> > My trouble with Pd64 is that it will get listed next to Pd in almost any > package manager and may be many people > opt Pd64 (thinking that is the one for 64bit cpus) I think almost all (recent) package managers no longer offer 32bit-CPU packages?... Antoine Le mer. 7 juin 2023 à 13:08,

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-07 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
Funnily, my personal feeling is the opposite :-) I feel that Pd64 clearly describes Pd working with 64 bit data. I myself don't have any trouble with whatever name we use as I know perfectly well the situation. My trouble with Pd64 is that it will get listed next to Pd in almost any package

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-07 Thread Antoine Rousseau
Le mer. 7 juin 2023 à 10:47, Lucas Cordiviola a écrit : > For me pd64 gives more chances of confusion than pdd or pdpd. > (...) > Starting with a new name of the app seems the most sane. > Funnily, my personal feeling is the opposite :-) I feel that Pd64 clearly describes Pd working with 64

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-07 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
For me pd64 gives more chances of confusion than pdd or pdpd. Apart from the name of the app we should try to give this new app as much separation of Pd's paths and preferences as we can. Starting with a new name of the app seems the most sane. -- Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-05 Thread Dan Wilcox
>> On Mon, 2023-06-05 at 11:46 +0200, Miller Puckette wrote: >> Pdouble? > > Pd? pdpd? enohp ym morf tnes --- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-05 Thread Benjamin Wesch
On Mon, Jun 5, 2023, 15:27 Roman Haefeli wrote: > Pd² or actually doubling it to pdpd? ... which could be read as pure double precision data. I do prefer pd64 though despite the possible confusion - assuming that semantics for names and endings are clearly (enough) different.

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-05 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2023-06-05 at 11:46 +0200, Miller Puckette wrote: > Pdouble? Pd² Roman signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-05 Thread cyrille henry
Pdd Le 05/06/2023 à 11:44, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit : On 6/4/23 17:22, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: well, great then, cause it's been merged :) time to get ready for double precision finally then I guess! Really excited about it <3 the other question that ought to answered is: how do we

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-05 Thread Dan Wilcox
> On Jun 5, 2023, at 12:00 PM, pd-dev-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2023 11:44:54 +0200 > From: IOhannes m zm?lnig > To: pd-dev@lists.iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd? > Message-ID: <0891ab25-d572-828b-881a-cef4cc65c...@iem.at&

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-05 Thread Miller Puckette
Pdouble? On 6/5/23 11:44, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: On 6/4/23 17:22, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: well, great then, cause it's been merged :) time to get ready for double precision finally then I guess! Really excited about it <3 the other question that ought to answered is: how do we

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-05 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 6/4/23 17:22, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: well, great then, cause it's been merged :) time to get ready for double precision finally then I guess! Really excited about it <3 the other question that ought to answered is: how do we actually call it in order to prevent confusion? "Pd

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-04 Thread Christof Ressi
PS: there's also some more of my PRs which i would like to draw special attention to (for inclusion with Pd-0.54) To follow up, it would be great if Pd 0.54 could include my scheduler fixes/improvements: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1756 It has been tested by several people on

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-04 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
well, great then, cause it's been merged :) time to get ready for double precision finally then I guess! Really excited about it <3 cheers Em sáb., 3 de jun. de 2023 às 18:38, IOhannes m zmölnig escreveu: > On 6/3/23 20:02, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > Hi, with pd 0.54-0 round the

Re: [PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-03 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 6/3/23 20:02, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Hi, with pd 0.54-0 round the corner, what is still preventing us from shipping double precision pd downloads? from my side: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1605 it would be nice if this could be merged for the 0.54 release¹ in the

[PD-dev] double precision pd?

2023-06-03 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Hi, with pd 0.54-0 round the corner, what is still preventing us from shipping double precision pd downloads? been waiting on it for a while now cheers ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev