[PD-dev] Re: midirealtime/midiclk

2006-08-28 Thread Miller Puckette
Thanks, fixed. As to teh clk confusion, I think I was under the false impression that F8 was a sort of realtime message but it's not. Maybe it's better to leave it the way it is, even if it's wrong - I don't know. cheers Miller On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 03:47:21PM +0200, Thomas Grill wrote: Hi

Re: [PD-dev] PD Crash with mistyping

2006-09-06 Thread Miller Puckette
Thanks... should be fixed on next test release. On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 04:37:11PM +0200, Anarkogaia wrote: There is a problem in PD 0.39-2 (0.40 test is affected too). When you type in a template: [struct foo float bar, float pok, float something] pd crashes (under linux). Don't

Re: [PD-dev] missing file from pd-MAIN and fftw version

2006-09-25 Thread Miller Puckette
Well, I started coding for fftw-2, then found out it had already been replaced with fft-3, then decided that perhaps I should just wait for fftw-4 or 5. I didn't like the way it was done in devel (with lots of fftw-specific stuff in d_fft.c). cheers Miller On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 10:22:48PM

Re: [PD-dev] missing file from pd-MAIN and fftw version

2006-09-27 Thread Miller Puckette
... cheers Miller On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 01:52:52AM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, Miller Puckette wrote: Yes indeed. I'm thinking of automatically having new classes shadow old ones, so that anything in Pd could simpy be externed over. Not sure of all the long-term

Re: [PD-dev] gdb listening to PD

2006-11-15 Thread Miller Puckette
the external has been loaded and the symbols are available - use the gdb integration into your favorite ide to set breakpoints in source files. (should work with about every decent ide like emacs, eclipse, kdevelop) tim On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 09:17 -0800, Miller Puckette wrote: Just to add

Re: [PD-dev] devel branch

2006-12-02 Thread Miller Puckette
Sorry to be silent on this issue so far... I'm trying to patch 0.40 and MAIN in parallel - however, I don't think I've checked MAIN in for a while so they might appeat out of sync. I'm also intending to look over devel and incorporate some of its features into MAIN, but this is a large project

Re: [PD-dev] Makefile configuration question

2006-12-04 Thread Miller Puckette
THere's a makefile in expr~ that combines three object files... the makefile is a bit ugly but could be a good starting point. cheers Miller On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 03:56:57PM +, Eric Lyon wrote: Greetings, I need some advice for how to modify the Pd Makefile for when I need to compile

Re: [PD-dev] loader: 0.40 or devel_0_39 ?

2006-12-09 Thread Miller Puckette
I believe I tried to apply a patch that added the 'altname' business, which then caused some problems, so I rewrote the code to do the same thing better without the extra parameter. I think the string passed in devel_0_39 is simply passed as classname in 0.40. For instance, if someone asks for

Re: [PD-dev] sys_externlist declared in two places

2006-12-17 Thread Miller Puckette
It's a mistake... I think the one in s_main.c should go. C code since the 70s (at least) has allowed duplicate definitions of uninitialzed data, but everyone knows it's wrong :) M On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 07:39:48PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Correct me if I am wrote, but shouldn't

Re: [PD-dev] timing of a clock_delay(x-x_clock, 0);

2006-12-28 Thread Miller Puckette
It's indeed as soon as possible, except that if someone else has previously scheduled something ASAP that ASAP will get in earlier than yours. You can chain arbitrarily many clock_delay(..., 0) calls without DSP or event polling getting in between. cheers Miller On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at

Re: [PD-dev] timing of a clock_delay(x-x_clock, 0);

2006-12-30 Thread Miller Puckette
That would be an error (silently 'corrected' to delay zero). On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 03:12:19PM -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, Miller Puckette wrote: It's indeed as soon as possible, except that if someone else has previously scheduled something ASAP that ASAP will get

Re: [PD-dev] freebytes, outlet_new

2007-01-04 Thread Miller Puckette
Both are there for future possible optimizations. The size parameter would allow for much more space-optimized memory allocation than malloc() can offer (and I've also used it to trace memory corruption bugs once or twice). The t_symbol field could be used to pre-determine data type conversions,

Re: [PD-dev] text placement

2007-01-16 Thread Miller Puckette
, at 2:49 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: In g_rtext.c: sys_vgui(pdtk_text_new .x%lx.c %s %f %f {%.*s} %d %s\n, canvas, x-x_tag, dispx + LMARGIN, dispy + TMARGIN, outchars, tempbuf, sys_hostfontsize(font), (glist_isselected(x-x_glist

Re: [PD-dev] 0.40-2 code not in CVS?

2007-01-18 Thread Miller Puckette
I never had checked 0.40-2 in. It's checked in now (tag stable_0_40_2) but now I worry that it's going to cause one or another patch to break. There was a byte order bug fix that I'm sure HC has already patched anyway. Also, list length has the new, correct behavior for non-list messages. I

Re: [PD-dev] pd-HEAD not building on any mac

2007-01-19 Thread Miller Puckette
My bad... I don't know what I was thinking checking in code that didn't compile... should e fixed for Mac now; I haven't tested on Windows yet though. cheers Miller On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 06:02:49PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Here's were it dies: Message: 10 Date: Fri, 19 Jan

Re: [PD-dev] tcl 8.5 help browser bug and a fix

2007-02-21 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi all, I don't know how the help browser works (Hans-Christophe wrote it) and don't know whether that comment character is in there for some reason or not. So I'm scared to fix this without hearing from HC. I wonder if the old-fashioned idea of just using the file browser should be available

Re: [PD-dev] d_math.c break[s] strict-aliasing rules

2007-04-18 Thread Miller Puckette
I think there are several places where strict-aliasing isn't followed. I always compile with -fno-strict-aliasing to prevent problems. cheers Miller On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 11:19:20AM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: So it seems that this bug in d_math.c is triggered by turning on the

Re: [PD-dev] SIGTERM and Pd

2007-06-02 Thread Miller Puckette
TERM kills Pd just fine on linux... I'm not sure, but I remember finding Pd harder to kill on Macintoshes, but never understood why. M On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 08:51:25PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Is there any reason why Pd does not respond to SIGTERM? I just thought I'd ask

Re: [PD-dev] devel_0_39 ? devel_0_40 ?

2007-07-21 Thread Miller Puckette
As it happens I'm just having a look at devel_0_39, trying to compile it to see if I can get any latency wins from the callback scheduling and/or settable blocksizes. I think there are other enhancements in there (we heard recently about SYSEX MIDI on OSX) that warrant putting into 0.41. If

Re: [PD-dev] devel_0_39 ? devel_0_40 ?

2007-07-22 Thread Miller Puckette
This explains a lot! Now for the hard part: in Pd, 32-bit floating point tables are stored as 64-but 'atoms' for a 50% hit in memory efficiency. Something Must Be Done; but what? OTOH, I'm falling out of my chair for joy that there's finally a way to write C code that doesn't choke on

Re: [PD-dev] devel_0_39 ? devel_0_40 ?

2007-07-22 Thread Miller Puckette
Cool... I'm especially excited about midi/audio patches, speaking only for myself :) On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 10:48:40PM +0200, Thomas Grill wrote: Hi all, i hate to be a spoiler, but the features that sleep in the devel branch are the topic of my talk at the pdconf. I'll commit a bit more

Re: [PD-dev] problems building FFTW-enabled pd

2007-08-18 Thread Miller Puckette
Sorry, FFTW support isn't working at all in the current version of Pd (they changed the API and I haven't had the patience to try to deal with it yet.) Miller On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 10:27:48AM -0700, Sergei Steshenko wrote: Hello All, I'm trying to build pd-0.40-2 in the framework of my

Re: [PD-dev] problems building FFTW-enabled pd

2007-08-18 Thread Miller Puckette
FFT pacakges that Pd works fine with, I don't feel that fixing the Pd FFTW support is the most urgent thing I need to deal with right now. cheers M On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 03:11:51PM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2007, Miller Puckette wrote: Sorry, FFTW support isn't working

[PD-dev] 0.41 test 06

2007-08-18 Thread Miller Puckette
I've uploaded test 06 which incorporates new versions of portaudio and portmidi and makes a stab at callback scheduling. It's on CVS and on my software page, http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html cheers Miller ___ PD-dev mailing list PD-dev@iem.at

Re: [PD-dev] does pd use dual buffer approach ?

2007-08-18 Thread Miller Puckette
Depending on the OS, you can get at least 100 milliseconds of buffering and perhaps much more... so it should be fine. cheers Miller On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 01:50:46PM -0700, Sergei Steshenko wrote: Hello All, I have a very basic question regarding pd - does it use dual buffer approach ?

Re: [PD-dev] more on the 12 point font mystery

2007-09-22 Thread Miller Puckette
HI HC, Pd has code automatically to do that, which is disabled in your font patch for some reason: /* best is now the host font index for the desired font index i. */ sys_fontlist[i].fi_hostfontsize = atom_getintarg(3 * best + 2, argc, argv);

Re: [PD-dev] more on the 12 point font mystery

2007-09-22 Thread Miller Puckette
/normal.mov http://pow.idmi.poly.edu/~hans/pdfonts/fonttest/bold.mov As you can see in the movie, there is no dynamic measurement needed, the fonts are all very close one tk scaling is set to 1. Except, of course, the pesky 12 point on GNU/Linux. .hc On Sep 22, 2007, at 2:21 PM, Miller

Re: [PD-dev] Pd code formatter?

2007-09-26 Thread Miller Puckette
My settings are: tabs are 8 spaces indents are 4 spaces but to make things easier I always expand out tabs when releasing code; this is done with a shell script using the wonderful and (I think) universally available expand program. HC's tabs are hardwired to 4 spaces (old Next style,

Re: [PD-dev] openpanel length limit on OSX and linux

2007-10-04 Thread Miller Puckette
I looked, and I think it's just the print object that truncates the symbol on printing. In s_print, you can change the postatom() function to print bigger strings. I'll go on and chance my copy to use MAXPDSTRING there, just to see what that will break :) M On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 06:47:07PM

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-23 Thread Miller Puckette
The following lines: sys_fontlist[i].fi_hostfontsize = atom_getintarg(3 * best + 2, argc, argv); sys_fontlist[i].fi_width = atom_getintarg(3 * best + 3, argc, argv); sys_fontlist[i].fi_height = atom_getintarg(3 * best + 4, argc, argv); are how Pd finds out the

Re: [PD-dev] font troubles WAS Re: [PD] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-23 Thread Miller Puckette
will still have troubles. .hc On Oct 23, 2007, at 8:25 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: The following lines: sys_fontlist[i].fi_hostfontsize = atom_getintarg(3 * best + 2, argc, argv); sys_fontlist[i].fi_width = atom_getintarg(3 * best + 3, argc, argv

Re: [PD-dev] SVN?

2007-10-24 Thread Miller Puckette
I think it doesn't matter whether I have to do a 'git pull' or a 'patch' to apply patches. The hard thing for me with patches is that I feel I should understand the patch fully and believe it both works and that it won't make future trouble. For the last month or more I've been working on HC's

Re: [PD-dev] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-27 Thread Miller Puckette
Hmm, I had no idea that come of teh HC patches were actually necessary in order to be able to compile Pd extended on OSX or Windows... which patches are they? thanks M (...) I need to patch Miller's sources in order to make builds on Windows and Mac OS X. Hmm.. I thought building

Re: [PD-dev] getting the classname in an class

2007-10-28 Thread Miller Puckette
I think the binbuf is always present, but in the case of a top-level canvas, it might be empty; binbuf_getnatom() tells you how many atoms there are. cheers Miller On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 10:14:48PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 28, 2007, at 8:47 PM, Martin Peach wrote:

Re: [PD-dev] getting the classname in an class

2007-10-29 Thread Miller Puckette
that? .hc On Oct 28, 2007, at 10:50 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: I think the binbuf is always present, but in the case of a top-level canvas, it might be empty; binbuf_getnatom() tells you how many atoms there are. cheers Miller On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 10:14:48PM -0400, Hans

Re: [PD-dev] PD Strings

2007-11-12 Thread Miller Puckette
Not in 'main' there isn't. I favor using lists and adding the necessary formatting/parsing objects instead of adding a new fundamental type. cheers Miller On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 12:00:50PM -0600, Mike McGonagle wrote: Hello all, I was looking over the latest version of m_pd.h, and noticed

Re: [PD-dev] Pd Strings

2007-11-13 Thread Miller Puckette
HI all, I don't have answers to all these, but I'm sure that adding a string ytpe to Pd isn't the roght way to handle these problems. But specifically: 1. spaces in symbols are a parsing/formatting problem, not a data type problem; 2. use arrays as strings as I proposed; 3. I have to think

Re: [PD-dev] compile pd with cygwin

2007-12-01 Thread Miller Puckette
Is it known whether WIN32 will be automatically defined in 64-bit code on MS Windows? cheers M On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 10:15:16PM +0100, Patrice Colet wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner a ?crit : One, thing _WIN32 is the preferred macro name for testing for Windows since it is defined

Re: [PD-dev] No rule to make target `/usr/include/stdlib.h'

2007-12-03 Thread Miller Puckette
Now we know how to make make make the right choice :) M On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 08:36:33PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Dec 3, 2007, at 4:32 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/include/stdlib.h', needed by

Re: [PD-dev] CVS to SVN ?

2007-12-18 Thread Miller Puckette
Yeah, start the tree, I'll be happy to move pd 'head' right on over :) M On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 03:48:11PM +0100, Winfried Ritsch wrote: Hello, [...] So yes, this will be done AFAIR. or rather, no, it won't be done AFAIK. i am currently thinking of starting an svn-repository in

Re: [PD-dev] o profiling PD

2007-12-28 Thread Miller Puckette
try getting ti to compile with -pg and then running gprof (see the 'man' page). You can get ./configure to add the -pg flag using the CFLAGS and LFLAGS environment variables (there might be other ways too.) But then, somehow you have to get the profiling version of pd in the same directory as

Re: [PD-dev] declare strangeness in abstractions (0.41 test10)

2008-01-05 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi Frank, Well, I can't remember now if I was looking at that bug report or if I was having my own problems with declare (I've had many). I had bad confusion making abstractions use soundfiler, for instance, and having relative paths get expanded relative to the abstraction instead of the

Re: [PD-dev] marking 'taken' patches as closed?

2008-01-14 Thread Miller Puckette
on them. .hc On Jan 14, 2008, at 1:49 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: Hi all, Any reason I shouldn't just go ahead and mark patches as 'closed' when I apply them? It's less clear what to do about bugs when I think I've fixed them, since a fair percentage of the time they cmoe back

Re: [PD-dev] declare strangeness in abstractions (0.41 test10)

2008-01-16 Thread Miller Puckette
will [declare -stdpath] work inside abstractions? thanks roman On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 10:32 -0800, Miller Puckette wrote: Hi Frank, Well, I can't remember now if I was looking at that bug report or if I was having my own problems with declare (I've had many). I had bad confusion making

[PD-dev] snprintf vs. sprintf_s?

2008-01-16 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi Devs, I found out that .Net apparently doesn't use snprintf but has a similar function named sprintf_s. (A couple of recent patches change sprintfs to snprintfs leading to compile errors in .Net). I'm thinking of just putting the following in s_main.c and s_file.c: #ifdef MSW #define

Re: [PD-dev] declare strangeness in abstractions (0.41 test10)

2008-01-16 Thread Miller Puckette
). excuse me, if i am totally missing your point here. if so, please help me clarify the confusion. roman On Wed, 2008-01-16 at 07:54 -0800, Miller Puckette wrote: At teh moment, -stdpath and -nostdpath work inside abstractions, and if you have a calling patch that declares the opposite, it's

Re: [PD-dev] snprintf vs. sprintf_s?

2008-01-16 Thread Miller Puckette
Sounds right. I'll put that on the 0.42 dolist :) M On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 05:33:26PM -0600, Russell Bryant wrote: Miller Puckette wrote: OTOH, I like the idea of just supplying a spoofed config.h - comes in at just the level of irony that's fitting in the situation. That makes

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] Problem in os x 10.5.1?

2008-02-02 Thread Miller Puckette
Aha, somehow I had persuaded myself that teh problem was when starting from the App (in which case Tcl/TK fork/execs pd) but now I gather it's when you start Pd from a shell so that it starts Tcl/Tk instead. I'll go try that and see if I can make it fail for me :) M On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at

Re: [PD-dev] Protecting Pd-MAIN [was: Re: [PD] Problem in os x 10.5.1?]

2008-02-11 Thread Miller Puckette
In the CVS days, my process was to test my latest source tree on the three major platforms, then put the sources both on my website and in the repository. (for minor changes that didn't warrant a test release number I'd just upload to CVS but not before verifying everything.) So both the

Re: [PD-dev] how to authenticate commits in SVN?

2008-02-12 Thread Miller Puckette
, 2008 4:41 PM, Miller Puckette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to commit 0.41-1 to the svn repository, but can't figure out how to get authenticated. I checked the trunk out ala svn checkout https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/pd/ and now

[PD-dev] how to authenticate commits in SVN?

2008-02-12 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi all, I'm trying to commit 0.41-1 to the svn repository, but can't figure out how to get authenticated. I checked the trunk out ala svn checkout https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/pd/ and now when trying to commit I get a username challenge. In CVS I was using

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] Problem in os x 10.5.1?

2008-02-15 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi all, I don't get any of these symptoms on 10.5.2, but don't have a 10.5.1 machine handy. And I agree, there's simply no code between the fork and the exec anymore, either in the case that Pd starts the Gui or vice versa (the normal way, in which the GUI starts Pd.) Am I right that Pd 0.41-0

Re: [PD-dev] pd-meeting at LAC

2008-02-24 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi all, I'd be up for it too... I have a much tighter schedule though: arrive Thursday early afternoon, leave Monday late morning. cheers Miller On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 12:55:38PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yes, let's do it. I get in on Wednesday afternoon and leave on Tuesday

Re: [PD-dev] s_inter.c crashes

2008-03-24 Thread Miller Puckette
Looks like you're already using GDB to look at the crash, but apparently Pd wasn't compiled with GDB symbols... if I'm right about that, you might get more info (but Pd will run slower) if you 'make clean' and './configure --enable-debug' and then 'make'. hope this helps... Miller On Mon, Mar

Re: [PD-dev] what is schedlib/externalschedlibmain?

2008-03-24 Thread Miller Puckette
That's me trying to facilitate plugging in alternative schedulers (threaded ones for instance :) M On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 01:43:03AM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I just noticed this new code in s_loader.c and pdj. Is there any explanation of what it is anywhere? I couldn't find

Re: [PD-dev] what is schedlib/externalschedlibmain?

2008-03-24 Thread Miller Puckette
I've never tried pdj (don't use java) so don't know. cheers M On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 04:15:34PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It seems that the pdj (mxj clone) code uses it. Is it functional? .hc On Mar 24, 2008, at 3:06 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: That's me trying

Re: [PD-dev] what is schedlib/externalschedlibmain?

2008-03-24 Thread Miller Puckette
within a few months... cheers Miller On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 07:12:24PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I meant, is the schedlib stuff working. .hc On Mar 24, 2008, at 4:22 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: I've never tried pdj (don't use java) so don't know. cheers M On Mon, Mar 24

Re: [PD-dev] what is schedlib/externalschedlibmain?

2008-03-25 Thread Miller Puckette
process, and therefore the wiiremote object can't hook into it. .hc On Mar 24, 2008, at 7:17 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: It was working as of 0.37 (got used in PdVST) but I haven't tested it for years, and of course I might have broken it moving it to s_loader.c. I'm now planning a pd

Re: [PD-dev] the future of [declare] and canvas_savedeclarationsto()

2008-05-19 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi all, I use 'declare' all the time.. don't think it's semifunctional at all. I think the questions about how declares should act inside abstractions are hard to resolve; in my own usage (and in the way I suggest others might want to use declare) it's always in the main patch, as a way to show

Re: [PD-dev] the future of [declare] and canvas_savedeclarationsto()

2008-05-22 Thread Miller Puckette
. I'd like to create an [import] modelled after Python's import does, so I'd like to use #X declare/canvas_savedeclarationsto() with it. .hc On May 19, 2008, at 6:33 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: Hi all, I use 'declare' all the time.. don't think it's semifunctional at all. I

Re: [PD-dev] the future of [declare] and canvas_savedeclarationsto()

2008-05-22 Thread Miller Puckette
. .hc On May 22, 2008, at 8:45 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: OK, I took most of the patch (not the realpath() call which seems unrelated) and uploaded to SVN, unless I'm mistaken. cheers Miller On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 08:22:23PM +0200, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I was looking

Re: [PD-dev] the future of [declare] and canvas_savedeclarationsto()

2008-05-22 Thread Miller Puckette
added one more iteration of that back and forth for realpath(). .hc On May 22, 2008, at 9:25 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: I might have missed it, but I didn't see that realpath() itself made it into the patch... ? M On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 09:22:12PM +0200, Hans-Christoph Steiner

Re: [PD-dev] the future of [declare] and canvas_savedeclarationsto()

2008-05-23 Thread Miller Puckette
path, and AFAIK, on Windows it is always an absolute path. .hc On May 22, 2008, at 9:44 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: I finally realized realpath() is a pre-existing function. (I imagined it was sitting in another source file that didn't make it to the patch) but.. man realpath

Re: [PD-dev] bang [block~] to query current blocksize

2008-05-23 Thread Miller Puckette
Or, how about three extra outlets to samplerate~ (so as not to have to add more to the top-level namespace) cheers Miller On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:07:18AM +0100, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On May 23, 2008, at 9:00 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

Re: [PD-dev] getting the classname symbol

2008-05-28 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi HC, there's a public function, char *class_getname(t_class *c) { return (c-c_name-s_name); } in m_class.c. cheers Miller On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:56:42PM +0200, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Does know have example code that shows how to access (t_class)- c_name-s_name? (that

Re: [PD-dev] 0.42 overwriting class-definitions...

2008-06-13 Thread Miller Puckette
I'm still trying to figure out how to do this right... for years I've been unable to put some key objects into Pd 'vanilla' because they would then shadow objects of the same name in libraries, sometimes with somewhat different designes (e.g., the infamous pow~). The only solution I can see is to

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] What goes on during dsp ticks?

2008-06-14 Thread Miller Puckette
There's a rather hard-to-understand description on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Publications/cmj91-max.ps cheers Miller On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 09:57:00AM +0900, PSPunch wrote: Sorry for accidentally sending the previous note to pd-list. Thomas, I hear that malloc is a relatively

[PD-dev] compiling FLEXT vst~ on Macintosh

2008-07-07 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi all, For a music production I had to compile vst~ for OSX in Flext. I noticed that there is already code in vsthost.cpp that seems to try to load vst plug-ins in the form of carbon code resources (search for FSPathMakeFSSpec) but I found no compiled vst~ in Pd-extended, nor does anyone on the

Re: [PD-dev] compiling FLEXT vst~ on Macintosh

2008-07-08 Thread Miller Puckette
to actually handle user interaction (in editormac.hpp). all the best, Thomas Am 07.07.2008 um 22:17 schrieb Miller Puckette: Hi all, For a music production I had to compile vst~ for OSX in Flext. I noticed that there is already code in vsthost.cpp that seems to try to load vst plug

Re: [PD-dev] compiling FLEXT vst~ on Macintosh

2008-07-08 Thread Miller Puckette
Yep, I've only tried it in intel mac so far. On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 10:09:47AM +0200, Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: Am 07.07.2008 um 22:17 schrieb Miller Puckette: Hi all, For a music production I had to compile vst~ for OSX in Flext. I noticed that there is already code in vsthost.cpp

Re: [PD-dev] [declare -stdpath]: does it work?

2008-08-12 Thread Miller Puckette
ouch, this is a bug in that case. On my dolist to check it out... cheers M On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 06:47:50PM -0400, marius schebella wrote: hi roman, thanks for bringing this one up :). just tested it on OSX and here is what I got: it has some effect, but not as supposed. It extends the

Re: [PD-dev] EXTERN int canvas_dspstate;

2008-09-18 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi Rich, I don't know any way to do this. Seems like it would be a good thing to have though :) M On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:28:15AM +0200, Rich E wrote: Hi, I just came accross this extern value canvas_dspstate and want to use it in an external, but am a little confused by its name (and

Re: [PD-dev] future of [declare]

2008-11-05 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi Roman, I think the -path and -stdpath aren't doing what I intended... I think that if you've got a [foo] and [bar] with the same parent, then a declare in [foo] shouldn't affect either the parent or [bar]. So if I can figure out what's going wrong I'll try fixing that :) thanks for checking

Re: [PD-dev] future of [declare]

2008-11-05 Thread Miller Puckette
Followup: it looks like currently, declaring a path inside an abstraction adds the declaration, buggily, to the whole line of parent patches. one result of this is that, if you have a bunch of copies of an abstraction declaring a path, it actually gets searched over and over again every time a

Re: [PD-dev] [stdout] in extra

2008-12-01 Thread Miller Puckette
Good idea... but unfortunately it generalizes to any object that has an 'anything' method plus other specific ones, so if I started doing this I wouldn't know where to stop! BTW, the help window doesn't make it clear, but the main reason for having stdout is for use with pd~. cheers Miller On

Re: [PD-dev] pointer to struct messages

2008-12-01 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi Isi, There's no direct way to do this but it's possible to share data between objects using symbols. An example is the delay objects (d_delay.c) - the useful functions are pd_bind, pd_unbind and pd_findbyclass. cheers Miller On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 03:55:43PM -0800, Isidro Gonzalez wrote:

Re: [PD-dev] pd and threads with pd~ : was Re: i can has svn commit access?

2008-12-02 Thread Miller Puckette
Fortunately many people are just posting up their papers on their own websites, maybe Miller could do this. I don't know which paper was being talked about but they should all be up there on my website :) M ___ Pd-dev mailing list

Re: [PD-dev] pd_getdirname

2008-12-03 Thread Miller Puckette
Hmm, pd_getdirname() doesn't seem to exist... if you're trying to open a file in the directory of the patch, the usual way is using canvas_open() or canvas_makefilename() - these don't need to know Pd's own working directory, which, in windows, might not even exist as far as I can tell. cheers

Re: [PD-dev] pd-devel revival

2008-12-08 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi all, I've spent some time thinking about this. I had only limited success pulling code from the 0.39 devel because there were so many changes, often with rationales I didn't fully understand, that I wasn't confident about my ability to maintain whatever I ended up with. However, I did manage

Re: [PD-dev] my_numbox_draw_update and other saving crash

2008-12-14 Thread Miller Puckette
It looks like some object is corrupting memory - I don't know how to figure out what object it is, short of laboriously cutting parts of the patch away and seeing what makes the crashes stop. I don't know either if the problem is coming from Pd itself or some extern from extended. Perhaps the

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Patches-2419952 ] Add 'get' method to toggle

2008-12-14 Thread Miller Puckette
I'd suggest using 'value' to do this. The IEM GUIs are overloaded with unmaintainable junk as it is... cheers Miller On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 01:02:17AM -0800, Luke Iannini wrote: That's great! I'd actually love to be able to get any of the parameters of GUI objects, including size, color,

Re: [PD-dev] pd-0.41-4 vanilla build fails on osx ppc

2008-12-22 Thread Miller Puckette
Sounds like you have a rare Mac without an i386 compiler installed. I'm not sure, but I think bringing the development suite up to date should fix that. Of course, they probably will insist that you also bring the OS up to date, and during the upgrade you'll lose all your files. If it were me,

Re: [PD-dev] Tcl/Tk code formatting and file organization

2009-01-03 Thread Miller Puckette
Sorry for the slow response on this one... - first, does anyone object to making the Tcl files use 90 or 100 character widths? Tcl lines tend to be long and 80 char width tends to cause a lot of really ugly lines. This would cause me much misery since I often depend on 'terminal'

Re: [PD-dev] seteuid vs. setuid

2009-01-12 Thread Miller Puckette
Wow, I fixed this bug in 0.40 but somehow failed to propagate the fix to 0.41 and the new 0.42. I'll go on and put out bug-fixed 0.41 and 0.42 versions. I think the UID stuff is still needed to remain compatible with older versions of linux. I've never actually set a policy as to how far back

Re: [PD-dev] pd [concat $name msg $accel \;] VS. using quotes

2009-01-12 Thread Miller Puckette
Sounds much better - I had no idea such a thing would work. cheers M On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 05:31:29PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I am thinking it would make things much more readable for non-Tclers and it shouldn't change the function if the code used double-quotes instead

Re: [PD-dev] pd-devel 0.42 (was Re: pd-devel status report)

2009-01-13 Thread Miller Puckette
Well, I'm using the ddd stuff in an extern I haven't released. My intent has been to rewrite all the Pd dialogs using ddd once it was stable. But now that other folks are working on the tk code I'll just wait to see what they propose. I'm split between the idea of incorporating pd.tk changes

Re: [PD-dev] checking to see if another instance of Pd is running

2009-01-13 Thread Miller Puckette
This is a great idea. Generally, when launching pd from the GUI you are relinquishing fine control and the natural default is to use the same Pd process for everyone. cheers Miller On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:38:05PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I just found this snippet in the Tcl/Tk

Re: [PD-dev] -guiport vs other arguments

2009-01-13 Thread Miller Puckette
-guiport 5600, I get the output of -help and then pd quits. so say like this: exec -- $pd_exec -stderr -guiport $portnumber .hc On Jan 12, 2009, at 7:27 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: Hmm, over here it does this: [...@slash src]$ pd -guiport 5600 connecting stream socket: Connection

Re: [PD-dev] [PD-announce] Pd 0.42-3 released - fixed setuid and find bugs

2009-01-16 Thread Miller Puckette
That was a type, thanks. M On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 05:36:51PM +0100, Albert Graef wrote: Miller Puckette wrote: Two more bug fixes... Thanks for the new release. One thing I noticed is the clear prinout (sic!) button in pd.tk. Is that intended, or a typo? -- Dr. Albert Graf Dept

Re: [PD-dev] [clipboard get] vs. custom X11 code

2009-01-30 Thread Miller Puckette
Well, it didn't work for me when I tried it - if you select text in one object, hit copy, then select text in another intending to paste over it -- bingo, X does a new copy. ouch. cheers Miller On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 06:54:15PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I am looking at the

Re: [PD-dev] [clipboard get] vs. custom X11 code

2009-01-30 Thread Miller Puckette
Yep, I'm clearly getting fooled by select-paste, if that's indeed what it's called. But at least when I tried it, pasting from the clipboard appeared to paste instead from the selection. Or maybe I was doing it wrong...? cheers Miller On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 07:10:31PM -0500, Mathieu Bouchard

Re: [PD-dev] [declare] bug (id 2251387)

2009-02-04 Thread Miller Puckette
Oops... I'd better fix that one. I'm still not sure how to deal with declares inside abstractions, on the other hand. cheers Miller On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 05:39:34PM -0800, Luke Iannini wrote: Yo, I've been meaning to mention forever that there's a similar issue with datastructures. Save a

Re: [PD-dev] pd-devel code structure meeting on IRC

2009-02-06 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi HC et al., I can make Friday at least until 10 or so. Could also make it earlier (say, as early as 7:30 AM) if need be. cheers Miller On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 12:53:50PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey all, Now that the core of Pd-devel is working, and other people are

Re: [PD-dev] portmidi on GNU/Linux

2009-03-29 Thread Miller Puckette
I'm scared to touch anything MIDI (since I don't use it either). Word has it that the alsa MIDI implementation in linux is buggy. On the other hand, the old-fashioned one (incorrectly called OSS in the Pd GUI) can do things that none of the others can, so should probably be preserved. cheers

Re: [PD-dev] understanding canvas_objtext() in g_text.c

2009-04-17 Thread Miller Puckette
in class_new() -- which is called when the extern is loaded. cheers M On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 11:21:46AM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Apr 17, 2009, at 6:49 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I am trying to track down the path of loading a new object.

Re: [PD-dev] understanding canvas_objtext() in g_text.c

2009-04-17 Thread Miller Puckette
I think you just need getfn(pd_objectmaker, gensym(drip)) -- or the variant zgetfn if more convenient. cheers M On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:28:01PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Apr 17, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Miller Puckette wrote: On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 11:21:46AM -0400, Hans

[PD-dev] Pd bugfixes uploaded

2009-05-05 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi all, I've updated the svn 'head' with a half dozen small bug fixes. I'm hoping to put this out as 0.42-5 in a couple of days. For the moment it seems to be working at least better than 0.42-4. On a suggestion from Hans-Christophe I put up my git repository -- that's on my software page,

Re: [PD-dev] thread safety

2009-05-14 Thread Miller Puckette
This is unsafe unless you obtain the pd lock (by calling sys_lock() and sys_unlock()) around the whole block of code or else around each individual binbuf call. cheers Miller On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:14:49AM +0200, Torsten Curdt wrote: Hey there, I just would like to confirm. We are

Re: [PD-dev] pd-gui-rewrite C changes

2009-09-01 Thread Miller Puckette
Sounds good. I'm beginning to work through the many unresolved patches now, but it's turning out to be quite a lot of labor, so it might be a slow process. cheers Miller On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 12:24:34PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey Miller, So now that I have the C side

Re: [PD-dev] how to tell when a patch is finished loading

2009-09-01 Thread Miller Puckette
I don't think there's any existing way to do it--- time to design some appropriate hooks :) M On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 05:23:26PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Sep 1, 2009, at 4:55 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I'm playing around

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