Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
if it does, than afaik the _only_ language that has a counter built-in
is max/msp.
10 FOR X=1 TO 100
20 PRINT WHAT ABOUT BASIC?
30 NEXT X
this is not a built-in counter, this is how you would write a simple
counter
Chris McCormick wrote:
Here are some other reasons why you might not want to use Pd to develop
a large scale application (and why I won't call Pd a 'programming
language'):
* No hash/map/table type, or array type that holds anything except floats.
data structures?
* No strings.
you mean,
Would you ever say to someone writing an application in C++:
Think about converting some of your functions to macros???
That is just not an option.
hmm, since when are macros bad?
especially in C (not so much in C++) i could imagine situations where
i would tell somebody to convert some of
Hi everybody,
I'm trying to build externals (for Mac OS X) in Xcode. Since I
couldn't find much information on how to do that, it's basically just
trial and - most of all - error. For the start, I tried to build the
helloworld-Example from the external-tutorial. There are two main
hi again.
Chris McCormick wrote:
* No strings.
you mean, like C?
In C I can dynamically allocate an array of chars terminated by a \0
*with spaces* as easily as:
char *mystring = pants pants pants.;
as you have shown, there is no string type in C.
you (ab)use arrays of bytes (chars)
Some suggestions can be found in the Make a grid for choosing videos.
How thread in the archives. May involve installing Gridflow...
best,
d.
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yes, i was kind of thinking of that, but i was hoping for perhaps something
like videogrid or someting to visually see the
yes, i was kind of thinking of that, but i was hoping for perhaps something
like videogrid or someting to visually see the frames whilst scratching.
i will tweak with frame numbers to see what i can come up with
pp
Derek Holzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't the PDP video objects
Hi Andreas,
you can have a look at the xcode projects of my externals in the pd
cvs (e.g. externals/grill/xsample).
The externals are flext-based but the settings should be quite the same.
gr~~~
Am 11.01.2008 um 11:57 schrieb Andreas Jäger:
Hi everybody,
I'm trying to build externals (for
Hi,
Is there a place where one can find detailed documentation about how
fiddle~ behaves? For example, a less cryptic explanation of the
meaning of the vibrato parameters than is found in the help patch?
And of how it decides when to output a new cooked picth value?
I already checked
Hi,
On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 13:57 +0100, matteo sisti sette wrote:
Another question about fiddle.
I'd like to be able to distinguish between a signal with a pitch and a
signal without a picth. It seems to me that fiddle always outputs its
best guess no matter how reliable it is.
Actually
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, Damian Stewart wrote:
and why would i want that?
That's where I use macros instead.
Nowadays, I even pass macros as arguments to macros.
omg. bags not maintaining /your/ code ;-P
go on, flame to the wall...
_ _ __ ___ _ _ _
Can anyone direct me to articles on constructing clear, modular,
non-spaghetti patches in pd or other visual dataflow languages?
Especially if the articles derive their recommendations from theoretical
analysis (as with the investigations that led to structured programming
in imperative
teh offtopic! it veers!
Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
The only kind of reason you'd use macros, is because C++ doesn't handle
function calls well. Oh, most of the time it does; but it refuses to
consider data types as being values.
and why would i want that?
That's where I use macros instead.
Another question about fiddle.
I'd like to be able to distinguish between a signal with a pitch and a
signal without a picth. It seems to me that fiddle always outputs its
best guess no matter how reliable it is.
Actually that's not quite true. fiddle~ doesn't output anything at all
from its
HI all,
I don't know any canonical way to decide when a note is finished, except
to notice that a new note has started. But it's probably possible to use
the discrete output of fiddle~ to catch note-on events and then make
up criteria that define endings of notes based on either pitch deviation
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, matteo sisti sette wrote:
You can convert just SOME of your functions to macros - I'm no C++
expert but I guess you can do that with very small functions. You'll
do it in a few special cases to optimize very critical portions of
code, you can't adopt it as a general
did I say something wrong? there are several counter objects. but none
built into Pd.
and yes, I was refering to the max counter-objectclass, because that is
how the thread started.
the max version can count up and down (and also updown), has optional
startig and end position and can be reset,
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
and i would be interested to hear ideas on how to get OOP into a
patcher-like languages.
Are you? then search the archives.
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| Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal QC
On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 18:30 +0100, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
With the default fiddle~ settings, it seems to output 0 about 15% of the
time, which seems quite a lot to me.
With pure noise as an input? Quite a lot?
IF it is supposed to output 0 when it can't find a pitch, I would
very nice, indeed.
do you see any possibility to run this the other way round, so that we
can have patch output in graphical ascir format?
useful for examples in pdfs, web-browsers. would make patches searchable
and other stuff.
marius.
alex wrote:
Hi pders
Here's a way of PD patching in
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008, Thomas Grill wrote:
this is because PD maintains it's internal structures using linked lists
which gives a very bad behavior with many structure items.
I don't think that the use of linked lists so far has caused any
significant problem. The problem lies more in things
On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 16:52 -0500, marius schebella wrote:
did I say something wrong? there are several counter objects. but none
built into Pd.
and yes, I was refering to the max counter-objectclass, because that is
how the thread started.
the max version can count up and down (and also
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
10 FOR X=1 TO 100
20 PRINT WHAT ABOUT BASIC?
30 NEXT X
this is not a built-in counter, this is how you would write a simple counter
in basic.
Frankly, I don't understand the difference. I mean FOR/NEXT, I don't mean
the exact code I wrote
have a look at the [dsp] object/abstraction. it uses [cputime]. you
should be able to feed this directly back to your patch.
for example, if dsp reaches a certain percentage, then turn off some
subpatches or reduce the refresh rate of your vu meters...
marius.
matteo sisti sette wrote:
Hi,
Quoting Mathieu Bouchard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
the only thing i can find is you demanding parent and child
objectclasses sharing the same $0.
no, i asked that objects share the same $0. objectclasses themselves
don't have a $0.
indeed, my
Quoting Mathieu Bouchard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
10 FOR X=1 TO 100
20 PRINT WHAT ABOUT BASIC?
30 NEXT X
this is not a built-in counter, this is how you would write a
simple counter in basic.
Frankly, I don't understand the difference. I mean
Quoting marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
did I say something wrong?
no
there are several counter objects. but none
built into Pd.
and yes, I was refering to the max counter-objectclass, because that is
how the thread started.
the max version can count up and down (and also updown), has
ok, then it was a misunderstanding, I am also not saying that is has to
be in the core of pd. (is there an official policy that objectclasses
which can be created as abstractions should not be included as c
objectclass?...)
but now, when I think about this...
why is there now pd-featured
Something new to share for a bit of fun. It's for an exercise in the synthetic
sound design book and it's about causality in sound. Some bits are old and maybe
you've heard them before on my site, but the final ensemble is fresh.
The first part is a wind model. It starts with a global (world)
unfortunately on a new installation of gridflow i end up with the i
don't wanna be famous Pd: signal 4 trying to record. so i'm not
getting beyond step1 of romans cue. as soon as i give a message for
the framerate pd process exited.
i tried this is on an actual cvs version on an uptodate kubuntu
On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 19:01 -0500, marius schebella wrote:
ok, then it was a misunderstanding, I am also not saying that is has to
be in the core of pd. (is there an official policy that objectclasses
which can be created as abstractions should not be included as c
objectclass?...)
i don't
yes, the pdmtl-abs need to get better promoted. they are not widely
known outside the pd montreal community. and afaik there is not reason
not to include them in pd-extended. they have a fancy patching style,
but ok...
is pdmtl in a path that is searched by pd by default?
marius (yaotm*).
*
andy,
you must have relly good ears and understanding of sound synthesis
and/or good tutorials. this is really nice.
I got totally infected by the procedural sound creation virus... do you
have more stuff like this?
marius.
Andy Farnell wrote:
Something new to share for a bit of fun. It's for
Once you figure this out, it would be very handy to have an Xcode+Pd
howto up on the site. The developer docs section is a wiki (mostly),
so you should be able to create and edit the page:
http://puredata.info/docs/developer
.hc
On Jan 11, 2008, at 8:13 AM, Thomas Grill wrote:
Hi
In any case, thanks for doing this! I hope I can get it working
soon, but I can't promise that unfortunately. I spent some time with
a someone's wiimote a couple months ago and got close. At least I
know where to start looking.
.hc
On Jan 9, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Phil Stone wrote:
Aargh,
I am not sure, if there are any scholarly articles about structured
programming style guidelines for visual programming languages.
I've seen only rules-of-thumb.
hey, there is not even a return command (to a main program?). only
inlets and outlets. I am not even sure about the analogy of
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:58:30 -0500
marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and/or good tutorials. this is really nice.
Thankyou Marius,
I work from papers, some of them going back to the 40s and 50s, lots
of physics books, textbooks like Dave Benson and Perry Cook, and study
other
I think Marius is right saying there's little formal
advice on visual dataflow structuring. Someone did a styleguide
with do's and dont's, but I cant find the linkanyone?
You could apply most of JSD and general software engineering
principles to visual dataflow though.
Cohesion: Keep
On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 12:28:16PM +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
Chris McCormick wrote:
* No strings.
you mean, like C?
In C I can dynamically allocate an array of chars terminated by a \0
*with spaces* as easily as:
char *mystring = pants pants pants.;
as you have shown, there is
There is a great thread on Cycling 74s site concerning OO and dataflow
styles, dos and donts.
http://www.cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msgth=25272start=0rid=0S=6bc17f0fd0e897fcb6a32801e8ab41ed
On Jan 11, 2008, at 9:37 PM, Andy Farnell wrote:
I think Marius is right saying there's little
will output binary data in the form of lists of byte-values.
so this may be a misunderstanding. I am writing my own server that
intercepts the OCS events, that all works. what I am trying to figure out is
if i wanted to send out messages to net client for instance a string that
was something like
tuio_netclient file attached
starting server...
addval -1808180500
addval -245369419
addval -386604114
addval 349531305
addval -348985598
addval -1619147716
On Jan 11, 2008 9:19 PM, Agent Engram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
will output binary data in the form of lists of byte-values.
so this
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