Re: [PD] hot and cold inlets don't always make sense

2008-11-21 Thread hard off
no, they are hot and cold for a very good reason...the order of dataflow is often vital to how a patch runs. it's not too hard to turn a cold inlet into a hot one though. [t b f] usually does it. see attached patch add-fixed.pd Description: application/extension-pd

Re: [PD] hot and cold inlets don't always make sense

2008-11-21 Thread Martin Schied
Hi, look at the attachment, using [t b f] should be the easiest way doing it. Using no graphical bangs is also better for performance. The trigger object [t b f] or [trigger bang float] makes clear in which order your events are sent, contrary to the two graphical connections where you

Re: [PD] using a constant without bang

2008-11-21 Thread Mike McGonagle
Jurgen, Instead of having to close and reopen the patch, why not just try sending a loadbang message to the window containing the abstraction? Whatever the name of the parent patch window, you can try something like this... you probably already have the first two steps, just putting them in here

Re: [PD] enttec dmx usb pro pd linux

2008-11-21 Thread Erich Berger
to give some more info: i had success with wtf2osc which includes a python script osc2dmx.enttec.py, which is able to open my device and via osc i am able to send. i belief the problem is that dmx512 tries to open /dev/dmx but my dmx controller is on /dev/ttyUSB0. erich -

Re: [PD] py and xsample in 0.40.3 extended under Linux

2008-11-21 Thread altern
hi thomas i decided to give it another go. i checked out the latest svn flext/xsample and py sources. so i did $ apt-get install stk libstk0c2a libstk0-dev libsndobj2c2 libsndobj-dev then i run $ bash build.sh pd gcc then edited the linux file config-lnx-pd-gcc.txt i noticed i needed to have the

Re: [PD] hot and cold inlets don't always make sense

2008-11-21 Thread Derek Holzer
Hi Jurgen, understanding hot and cold is essential to understanding the way Pd handles order of operations, so it's best to learn it right from the start. In your example, it is unclear/ambiguous whether the fine number gets sent to the add before or after the bang gets sent to the coarse

Re: [PD] enttec dmx usb pro pd linux

2008-11-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hi Erich Berger wrote: to give some more info: i had success with wtf2osc which includes a python script osc2dmx.enttec.py, which is able to open my device and via osc i am able to send. i belief the problem is that dmx512 tries to open /dev/dmx but my dmx controller is on

Re: [PD] GEM - pix_record missing in Gem binary for ubuntu 8.04?

2008-11-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
John Harrison wrote: I'm in ubuntu 8.04 64 bit and there seems to be no pix_record (couldn't create and no other error message) nor is there a pix_record help file. It appears to be missing? If I build from source would it work or is it missing for a reason? i guess that you are using the

Re: [PD] py and xsample in 0.40.3 extended under Linux

2008-11-21 Thread altern
i just had another look and i found that comenting out OFLAGS=-O3 in the config-lnx-pd-gcc.txt solved it so now i could compile xsample and py and the seem to work fine. nice, but the whole process requieres (in my opinon) a pretty good level of understanding linux and the compilation process

Re: [PD] enttec dmx usb pro pd linux

2008-11-21 Thread Erich Berger
so also % export DMX=/dev/ttyUSB0 would work ? erich - http://randomseed.org On Fri, 21 Nov 2008, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: hi Erich Berger wrote: to give some more info: i had success with wtf2osc which includes a python script osc2dmx.enttec.py, which is

Re: [PD] enttec dmx usb pro pd linux

2008-11-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Erich Berger wrote: so also % export DMX=/dev/ttyUSB0 if /dev/ttyUSB0 is a dmx device (which i doubt; according to its name it should be a serial device), then it will work. maybe it works with the erwin rol drivers. fgmadr IOhannes ___

Re: [PD] GEM - pix_record missing in Gem binary for ubuntu 8.04?

2008-11-21 Thread John Harrison
weird. It says it's 0.91 tigital. In any case, I rebuilt and the new build works great! I'll look into a bug report. IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: John Harrison wrote: I'm in ubuntu 8.04 64 bit and there seems to be no pix_record (couldn't create and no other error message) nor is there a

Re: [PD] GEM - pix_record missing in Gem binary for ubuntu 8.04?

2008-11-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
John Harrison wrote: weird. It says it's 0.91 tigital. In any case, I rebuilt and the new build works great! I'll look into a bug report. if it says 0.91 'tigital' then it will have [pix_record] (even if it's non-working, due to missing libraries at compile-time) fgmasdr IOhannes

Re: [PD] patching circles in nyc?

2008-11-21 Thread Spencer Russell
Sounds fun. I'm going to try to drop by for a few hours before I head into work. -spencer On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 20, 2008, at 7:59 AM, Spencer Russell wrote: On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL

Re: [PD] iChat / SMS - PD

2008-11-21 Thread mark edward grimm
hey simon... yeah thats an awesome way to do it. i hadnt thought of that.. ill give it a shot! right now i successfully have iChat sending keystroke commands to pd via applescript - not very complex. the pdsend/netrecive stuff would really help to send more complicated messages... thanks!

Re: [PD] hot and cold inlets don't always make sense

2008-11-21 Thread Lao Yu
Derek, I went through M-P's patches, trust me. He talks a lot about looping etc but not about trivial stuff that I mentioned. I knew flossmanuals but the dat flow tut escaped my notice. there is a very suitable example that is practical to me. Thank you very much for pointing me there.

Re: [PD] enttec dmx usb pro pd linux

2008-11-21 Thread Erich Berger
thx iohannes for your help and suggestions ! if /dev/ttyUSB0 is a dmx device (which i doubt; according to its name it should be a serial device), then it will work. its a serial device and it did not work as you doubted. maybe it works with the erwin rol drivers. no, i tried them, i got

Re: [PD] hot and cold inlets don't always make sense

2008-11-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Lao Yu wrote: For the sake of replying one rather angry reaction (I guess he won't read) whomever you are referring to here - it's very much likely that they will read your post. you seem to be used to hostile mailinglists. even though i (personally) am often grumpy, i would not consider

Re: [PD] enttec dmx usb pro pd linux

2008-11-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Erich Berger wrote: no, i tried them, i got the device attached to /dev/dmx0 but even i exported DMX to /dev/dmx0 and took care of the rights i get nothing through (also blacklisted all the other modules which might interfere) when i worked with DMX (only once and not with an enttec) it

Re: [PD] enttec dmx usb pro pd linux

2008-11-21 Thread Erich Berger
when i worked with DMX (only once and not with an enttec) it was crucial to plug in the device after the system had booted. else it would just freeze (no matter how i tried to blacklist and/or remove offending modules) while it was ugly, it was acceptable as in this special case it was

[PD] trigger: [t b 1 2]

2008-11-21 Thread Damian Stewart
hey, i find myself often repeating a construct like this: [t b a] | | [1 ( ... | now, the last time i was using Max, i noticed that Max's trigger object allows you to go [t 1 a] and the left outlet will send out the number 1. or even: [t reset a] and the left outlet sends out the

Re: [PD] trigger: [t b 1 2]

2008-11-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Damian Stewart wrote: hey, [t 1 a] i like this [t reset a] but i don't like this. it makes the bfsla syntax less readable: why does [t a b c] output c at the 3rd outlet, but neither a nor b on the 1st two outlets? (for those who don't like abbreviations: [trigger bang this float])

Re: [PD] trigger: [t b 1 2]

2008-11-21 Thread Enrique Erne
Hi Damian i like to use a list in your case since many objects map the list to the inlets. [1 $1( | [-] eni Damian Stewart wrote: hey, i find myself often repeating a construct like this: [t b a] | | [1 ( ... | now, the last time i was using Max, i noticed that Max's

Re: [PD] py and xsample in 0.40.3 extended under Linux

2008-11-21 Thread Thomas Grill
Hi Enrique, in order to improve user experience it would be necessary to have detailed feedback. it did not complain at all is not very helpful. i just had another look and i found that comenting out OFLAGS=-O3 in the config-lnx-pd-gcc.txt solved it so now i could compile xsample and py

Re: [PD] trigger: [t b 1 2]

2008-11-21 Thread errordeveloper
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 05:48:45PM +0100, Damian Stewart wrote: hey, i find myself often repeating a construct like this: [t b a] | | [1 ( ... | why don't you just make some handy abstraction ? now, the last time i was using Max, i noticed that Max's trigger object allows you to

Re: [PD] trigger: [t b 1 2]

2008-11-21 Thread Jack
Le 21 nov. 08 à 18:07, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : Damian Stewart wrote: hey, [t 1 a] i like this [t reset a] but i don't like this. it makes the bfsla syntax less readable: why does [t a b c] output c at the 3rd outlet, but neither a nor b on the 1st two outlets? Maybe

Re: [PD] using a constant without bang

2008-11-21 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Mike McGonagle hat gesagt: // Mike McGonagle wrote: On 11/21/08, Lao Yu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm on a resynth with a big number of oscillators inside abstractions. each of these abstractions needs to have an input of a constant by which controller input values are multiplied (in

Re: [PD] trigger: [t b 1 2]

2008-11-21 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Damian Stewart wrote: [t 1 a] i like this Me doesn't like it too much: Conceptually it clashes a bit with the possibility to replace f with a number in [pack]: [pack f f f f f f f f f] is almost the same as

Re: [PD] using a constant without bang

2008-11-21 Thread Lao Yu
Frank, it is not Mike's question, but mine :-) damn, you're so helpful. thanks a lot. btw the resynth works great, I'm amazed with the result. some parasite sound but I'll iron that out. Thanks again! Jurgen On Nov 22, 2008, at 2:14 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Mike McGonagle hat

Re: [PD] Chicago PD Event on Nov 21, 6pm

2008-11-21 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Nuts. I'm DJ-ing the art walk in Bridgeport tonight. Have fun! ~Kyle On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:55 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is not my event, but I was told it is open to the public. Hey y'all - it's time to organize the next Open-node meeting/PD workshop. At our last

Re: [PD] trigger: [t b 1 2]

2008-11-21 Thread Jack
Using a \ (or something else) in [trigger] or [pack] before a float or a symbol could force this to output ? In all cases, i think it is not to much to add a 'message' under a 'bang' from [trigger]. ++ Jack Le 21 nov. 08 à 19:25, Frank Barknecht a écrit : Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat

Re: [PD] trigger: [t b 1 2]

2008-11-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 21, 2008, at 1:58 PM, Damian Stewart wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 05:48:45PM +0100, Damian Stewart wrote: hey, i find myself often repeating a construct like this: [t b a] | | [1 ( ... | why don't you just make some handy abstraction ? cos