On Tue, 6 Sep 2011, martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote:
Yes, I think it ought to be up to the external to implement its own
symbol-to-float converter since there is no universally valid way of
doing it. The same pattern will have different meanings in different
context and Pd can't be expected
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Anything that just \ couldn't cover?
The current backslash scheme in the parser does not handle things like \n,
\t, \x with two hex digits, \u with four hex digits, \0 for nul character,
etc. That's because the current backslash only means
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
[openpanel] - outputs /home/hans/My documents
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[set symbol $1(
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[ ( -- What's printed here? ...My documents or ...My\ documents?
DesireData makes it My documents, but it's a bug, as in it doesn't fit
with what I wanted it to be. It ought to be My\
On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 13:58:40 -0400 (EDT)
Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
Going out of Programming 101 doesn't get you automatically in the odd and
weird stuff. I don't know why you talk about going from an extreme to
another.
Me neither, we are united in ignorance brother.
Just
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 12:07:20PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
And indeed, if I was only going on what the manual said, it would be a
very weak argument. Mostly, I'm going on how the type system works.
You can directly interface the automatic typing of atoms by adding
arguments in an
Upon further testing I have found two bugs so far. On is in the firmata and
the second one is in the [debytemask]. This makes fixing it a bit difficult.
1) firmata: instead of sending two values for a digital pin connected or
disconnected it sends three. The first one should be the address and
Hi Roman, Olsen and Hans,
Here' a replacement object that fixes the behaviour that wrong digital in
pins get recognized when more than the first 6 pins are used. I hope there
is nothing else interfering with those pins anymore.
The object digital_messages inside the patch should be placed here
On 2011-09-10 01:57, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011, martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote:
Yes, I think it ought to be up to the external to implement its own
symbol-to-float converter since there is no universally valid way of
doing it. The same pattern will have different meanings in
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011, Martin Peach wrote:
Which other ways are you thinking about, apart from something that
behaves more or less like strtof ?
OK, for example an object that converts names of numbers to floats:
or binary to float:
or imaginary numbers:
or even some kind of [expr] that takes
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011, Thomas Mayer wrote:
I have read the book myself, and it is not a book that claims I will
teach you seven languages in seven weeks, but the author introduces the
reader to basic concepts in each language (prototypal inheritance,
functional programming) and shows some
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011, Andy Farnell wrote:
Just wondering if there was anything in that book you thought was cool.
It struck me as a nice idea to compare a bunch of languages.
As a non-buyer, I only have access to two chapters, so, I can't comment on
that book.
But I have read other similar
On 2011-09-10 13:46, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011, Martin Peach wrote:
Which other ways are you thinking about, apart from something that
behaves more or less like strtof ?
OK, for example an object that converts names of numbers to floats:
or binary to float:
or imaginary
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
Dear all, it's with great pleasure that I share with you this piece. I
had an inspiring, in-depth conversation with artist and fellow Pd'er Ben
Bogart over the last months, and this is the result:
« Rational and creative thought are two extremes of
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011, Martin Peach wrote:
If you say so. I was just saying that the default should avoid the
all-encompassing conversion and not try second-guessing the users'
intentions. It's probably safe to have Pd convert a symbol to a float by
default iff there is no symbol method and
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
I agree the style would match other languages and things quite well
and might be clearer, but breaks backwards compatibility, though not
horribly. We could start with the \ method, and if that is too painful,
add a method. They would be
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011, martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote:
The disaster would be if Pd tried to guess what the user intends based
on some general idea of what Pd is 'for'. For instance I've been working
on an xbee external where I need to specify numbers like 0x0a060123 for
the remote address. I do
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Yeah, I agree, I have no problem if someone wants to make an externals
that interprets 4+2 or four as 4, but it doesn't seem like something
that should be in the core.
Well, there would be no conflict if such a feature existed, because it
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Yes, I agree that [float] and [symbol] should also do conversions. A good
example would be Python's str() and float().
I believe that the implicit conversions should be at a lower level than
that, because then, they can apply all over pd,
On Fri, 9 Sep 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
= really an empty string (just like the s_ given by
A_DEFSYMBOL, that you nearly can't produce otherwise)
[symbol(
And also if you do $1 inside of a DOLLSYM, you will get a default empty
string, though not separately, because it joins it to
But we are trained to deduce unreasonable expectations from
terse book titles and then blame that on the publishers.
I'm glad Peter posted the Norvig article and guess the 'ars
longa, vita brevis' theme is there in Tate's book title in a
cheeky way.
Of the languages I've encountered,
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:09:15 -0400 (EDT)
Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
BTW, the first study about programming language comparison happened around
1969-1972.
Love to know more about that. Can you remember the study title or
keywords?
a.
--
Andy Farnell
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011, Andy Farnell wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:09:15 -0400 (EDT)
Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
BTW, the first study about programming language comparison happened around
1969-1972.
Love to know more about that. Can you remember the study title or
keywords?
Greetings All
I'm having trouble getting my external to work, It compiles with no errors
and has 1 warning when I do a make but it completes
successfully see warning below.
cc -export_dynamic -shared -lc -lm -DPD -O2 -funroll-loops
-fomit-frame-pointer -fPIC -Wall -W -Wshadow
It should be -export-dynamic, not -export_dynamic.
Martin
On 2011-09-10 17:34, Rick T wrote:
Greetings All
I'm having trouble getting my external to work, It compiles with no
errors and has 1 warning when I do a make but it completes
successfully see warning below.
cc -export_dynamic
There is no need to write your own build system, use the Library
Template, it'll then build on GNU/Linux, Mac OS X, Windows, Android,
etc.
http://puredata.info/docs/developer/LibraryTemplate
.hc
On Sep 10, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Martin Peach wrote:
It should be -export-dynamic, not
I am in the process of writing an algorithmic piece where I take
pictures, determine the most prevalent color in that picture, then
store that as a number in an array. I would then call on these numbers
to determine the triggering of samples.
Is there an object in Pure Data that can determine the
Hi,
I think [pix_mean_color] is what you need.
Cheers.
01ivier
2011/9/11 Sebastian Valenzuela svalenzuelamu...@gmail.com
I am in the process of writing an algorithmic piece where I take
pictures, determine the most prevalent color in that picture, then
store that as a number in an array. I
Thanks Martin that got rid of the xport warning message
aloha
Rick
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.cawrote:
It should be -export-dynamic, not -export_dynamic.
Martin
On 2011-09-10 17:34, Rick T wrote:
Greetings All
I'm having trouble getting my
Greets Hans
The site seems be down at the moment
Reason: *Error reading from remote server*
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Apache/2.2.9 (Debian) DAV/2 SVN/1.5.1 PHP/4.4.4-8+etch6 mod_ssl/2.2.9
OpenSSL/0.9.8o mod_perl/2.0.4 Perl/v5.10.0 Server at puredata.info Port 80
but just to let you know
- Original Message -
From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org; pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [PD] (breaking symbols) was Re: find a list of numbers
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011, Sebastian Valenzuela wrote:
I am in the process of writing an algorithmic piece where I take
pictures, determine the most prevalent color in that picture, then store
that as a number in an array. I would then call on these numbers to
determine the triggering of samples.
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011, Olivier B wrote:
I think [pix_mean_color] is what you need.
This only finds the average colour, which is usually not the same as the
most prevalent colour, even though it is the best estimator.
The best estimator means that it's your best guess when someone asks you
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Is there a limit on the size of a symbol?
The only thing that has traditionally limited the size of symbols used in
practice, is the fact that they stay in RAM forever (for the lifetime of
the process). Otherwise, people would have used them a lot
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011, Martin Peach wrote:
It should be -export-dynamic, not -export_dynamic.
The GCC manpage I have does not mention -export-dynamic other than to say
that -rdynamic is a gcc option that corresponds to ld's -export-dynamic
option.
On which versions of GCC does
I did a gcc -v and this is what came back. I'm using ubuntu 10.04 64bit
Linux
Using built-in specs.
Target: x86_64-linux-gnu
Configured with: ../src/configure -v --with-pkgversion='Ubuntu
4.4.3-4ubuntu5' --with-bugurl=file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-4.4/README.Bugs
Subject: pix_write questions
Hello,
I would like to capture an image from the streaming video im getting
in the pix_video object using pix_write. I would then want the outlet
of pix_write to send that captured image to be loaded in pix_image.
Here it is again:
pix_video pix_write
There is another thing that I just noticed about the pduino test-patch.
The mode buttons are suggesting that you can turn of all functions by
selecting NONE. This is not true! These buttons have absolutely NO
function and should be replaced with the correct commands.
While doing this the option
Does anyone know why this doesn't clip?:
[osc~ 200]
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[*~ 1.5]
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[dac~]
I'm trying this using pd 0.43 and the audio still sounds good (although some
extra harmonics can be heard), despite the phases being in the range of
[-1.5, 1.5]... ?
Cheers,
Rich
On 2011-09-10 23:31, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011, Martin Peach wrote:
It should be -export-dynamic, not -export_dynamic.
The GCC manpage I have does not mention -export-dynamic other than to
say that -rdynamic is a gcc option that corresponds to ld's
-export-dynamic option.
If you want your signal to clip, use the [clip~] object.
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 1:03 AM, Rich E reakina...@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone know why this doesn't clip?:
[osc~ 200]
|
[*~ 1.5]
|
[dac~]
I'm trying this using pd 0.43 and the audio still sounds good (although some
extra harmonics
On Sep 10, 2011, at 9:25 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org; pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:40 PM
Subject: Re:
On Sep 11, 2011, at 1:10 AM, Martin Peach wrote:
On 2011-09-10 23:31, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011, Martin Peach wrote:
It should be -export-dynamic, not -export_dynamic.
The GCC manpage I have does not mention -export-dynamic other than to
say that -rdynamic is a gcc
You can get it from svn:
web:
http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/template/
svn:
http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/externals/template/
.hc
On Sep 10, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Rick T wrote:
Greets Hans
The site seems be down at the
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011, Rich E wrote:
Does anyone know why this doesn't clip?:
[osc~ 200]
|
[*~ 1.5]
|
[dac~]
I'm trying this using pd 0.43 and the audio still sounds good (although
some extra harmonics can be heard), despite the phases being in the
range of [-1.5, 1.5]... ?
No, you mean the
Hi all --
I assume this is happening on a Macintosh -- on that platform, Pd sends
floating point straight to the Mac audio system. Rumor has it that the
Mac might compress and/or equalize the signal on its way out, so who
knows what you're actually getting. But anyway, (and probably contrary to
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