On 23/10/2011 19:54, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Oct 23, 2011, at 1:45 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
Le 2011-10-24 à 02:27:00, i go bananas a écrit :
how hard would it be to rewrite the expr code so that it doesn't need
to be GPL licensed?
[...]
I think the Apple App Store conflicts
On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:16:18 +0900
i go bananas hard@gmail.com wrote:
in that case, it might be as simple as a nice email to Shadrokh Yadegari to
get his expr for pd license changed to LGPL too??
What makes you think its okay to ask someone to reconsider a
carefully made moral decision
What makes you think its okay to ask someone to reconsider a
carefully made moral decision simply for your convenience?
I thought it would be ok to ask at least? Would it really be that bad?
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.ukwrote:
On Mon, 24 Oct 2011
The GPL has absolutely no restrictions on commerce. You are free to sell
any GPL software however you see fit. But you must give the source code to
everyone you give the software to.
sorry hans, i should have been clearer on that. i meant 'closed source
commercial application'.
out of
LGPL seems ok on iphone, legally at least.
http://multinc.com/2009/08/24/compatibility-between-the-iphone-app-store-and-the-lgpl/
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:59 PM, i go bananas hard@gmail.com wrote:
The GPL has absolutely no restrictions on commerce. You are free to sell
any GPL
i go bananas wrote:
out of interest, what's the deal with pd being used as the audio engine for
computer games, like Spore, or whatever? They don't make the source code
available, do they? Wouldn't those applications also have to avoid [expr] ?
To some extend, that's a point for GPLv3 :
On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:54:59 +0900
i go bananas hard@gmail.com wrote:
What makes you think its okay to ask someone to reconsider a
carefully made moral decision simply for your convenience?
I thought it would be ok to ask at least? Would it really be that bad?
Sure. I can only tell you
Hi,this is a silly question but,would it be possible to draw array graphs in
user-selectable colors, or in different brushes besides point/line/curves?The
ability to overlap graphs is rather useful but everything in BW messes it up.
I know the default array elements are not designed to build
Data structures, maybe?
But I guess it would be very inefficient for large arrays (you would have to
create an instance for each array element).
And you need a separate subpatch to draw onto, to be able to add and
substract elements easily.
2011/10/24 Jeppi Jeppi jepp...@hotmail.com
Hi,
this
hi andy - of course i'd be very willing to know your point of view here,
particularly from your firsthand experience.
i didn't even know or care a thing at all about licenses until about 2 years
ago, and that was just from being employed to do the sound for an iphone
app.
with my own stuff i have
what I also do is to send the file name to iemlib/soundfile_info, which
gives out the file size (for wav files). then I send that value as an
argument to -maxsize, and I don't have to worry about how big the sound
file is. (except for Mathieu's error, which I hadn't heard about before)
yes, a data structures abstraction could make a enhanced array. I've
made one once which was a step-controlled array in the y axis (which
couldn't go outside the box limits as well). You can also look at my
object jmmmp/bezier (or the audio version), which does a kind of similar
idea, but
Hi,
was just checking something. For the display of an array, the maximum size
seems to be 2000 points. That is, with an X size of more than 2000 points
the array still gets correctly scaled, but everything after 2000 points
doesn't get displayed, it's just white. Is this behaviour wanted,
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:30 PM, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi,
was just checking something. For the display of an array, the maximum size
seems to be 2000 points. That is, with an X size of more than 2000 points
the array still gets correctly scaled, but everything after 2000
That sounds like a good idea, think i'll try to implement that one. Thanks.
To: pd-list@iem.at; crumbly.b...@hotmail.co.uk
Subject: Re: [PD] Array Size limits
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:57:22 +0200
From: jmmmp...@googlemail.com
what I also do is to send the file name to
Le 2011-10-24 à 12:28:00, Quim Llimona a écrit :
Data structures, maybe? But I guess it would be very inefficient for
large arrays (you would have to create an instance for each array
element).
AFAIR, float arrays are just plain data structures. At least, they use a
built-in template
Le 2011-10-24 à 11:16:00, i go bananas a écrit :
jMax is distributed under GNU’s Lesser General Public License
http://jmax.sourceforge.net/
is that the LGPL that mattieu is talking about?
My name is Mathieu.
I no longer think that the LGPL is ok with the AppStore.
in that case, it might be
Le 2011-10-24 à 16:59:00, i go bananas a écrit :
out of interest, what's the deal with pd being used as the audio engine
for computer games, like Spore, or whatever? They don't make the source
code available, do they? Wouldn't those applications also have to avoid
[expr] ?
yes.
Le 2011-10-24 à 17:16:00, i go bananas a écrit :
LGPL seems ok on iphone, legally at least.
http://multinc.com/2009/08/24/compatibility-between-the-iphone-app-store-and-the-lgpl/
Too much info on the net contradicting each other. I think that we might
need legal advice or something that
Le 2011-10-24 à 12:57:00, João Pais a écrit :
what I also do is to send the file name to iemlib/soundfile_info, which gives
out the file size (for wav files). then I send that value as an argument to
-maxsize, and I don't have to worry about how big the sound file is. (except
for Mathieu's
On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:33:25 +0900
i go bananas hard@gmail.com wrote:
hi andy - of course i'd be very willing to know your point of view here,
particularly from your firsthand experience.
I got an email like that, it kept me awake for some nights. I
experienced annoyance, anger, conflict,
Basically, if you build Pd vanilla or Pd-extended on Mac OS X Snow Leopard
or Lion withOUT installing Tcl/Tk, you'll be using Tk/Cocoa.
ok... how might i do this?
just a quick autogen.sh ./configure make from the pd-extended
git repo sees to build ok. is there something i need to alter to
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 08:36:39AM +0100, Andy Farnell wrote:
On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:16:18 +0900
i go bananas hard@gmail.com wrote:
in that case, it might be as simple as a nice email to Shadrokh Yadegari to
get his expr for pd license changed to LGPL too??
What makes you think its
On Oct 24, 2011, at 10:47 AM, m.e.grimm wrote:
Basically, if you build Pd vanilla or Pd-extended on Mac OS X Snow
Leopard
or Lion withOUT installing Tcl/Tk, you'll be using Tk/Cocoa.
ok... how might i do this?
just a quick autogen.sh ./configure make from the pd-extended
git repo sees
Pd's data-structures don't have to be allocated as separate items. They
can be allocated in array-fashion, as one big block.
What I say about Pd's data-structures doesn't apply to array-like types
defined in other plugins, such as GridFlow, iemmatrix, iem16, Gem, PDP.
In
theory, plugins can
On Mon, 2011-10-24 at 15:26 +0100, Andy Farnell wrote:
The thing about a nice email, no matter how politely and tactfully
you pen it, is that such a request can feel quite uncomfortable.
First it makes the assumption that the programmers choice of licence
was somehow shallow, maybe even
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On 2011-10-24 16:24, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
-maxsize between 4GB and 6GB will pretend that the size is 4GB less than
what you specified.
[...]
-maxsize between 4GB and 6GB will pretend that the size is 8GB less than
what you specified.
hein?
Sofy is hosting us tomorrow night at a new space, 319 Scholes , 319
Scholes, in East Williamsburgh. We'll also be there the next two
months, Tuesday, 11/22, and Tuesday 12/20.
http://puredata.info/community/NYCPatchingCircle
We spend enough time alone staring at our computers; we are
Am 23.10.2011 um 19:27 schrieb i go bananas:
or has anyone ever tried contacting the original authors and asking them to
change the license so it can fit in with pd's standard BSD ??
I've had the pleasure to meet Shahrokh Yadegari a few weeks back here in Weimar
and asked him about just that.
Le 2011-10-24 à 17:19:00, João Pais a écrit :
can you explain clearly what you meant in these 2 paragraphs?
Do you have clear questions ?
Pd's data-structures don't have to be allocated as separate items. They
can be allocated in array-fashion, as one big block.
I can see in Pd's source
being damaged
or incomplete
from terminal:
megrimm-mbp:darwin_app megrimm$
/Users/megrimm/Desktop/pd-extended/packages/darwin_app/build/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20111024.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server socket
jack server
Le 2011-10-24 à 17:58:00, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
On 2011-10-24 16:24, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
-maxsize between 4GB and 6GB will pretend that the size is 4GB less than
what you specified.
[...]
-maxsize between 4GB and 6GB will pretend that the size is 8GB less than
what you specified.
- Original Message -
From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
To: João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com
Cc: pd-list@iem.at
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [PD] coloring arrays
Le 2011-10-24 à 17:19:00, João Pais a écrit :
can you explain clearly what you
/pd-extended/packages/darwin_app/build/
Pd-0.43.1-extended-20111024.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server socket
jack server is not running or cannot be started
Pt_Start() called
Oct 24 12:59:41 megrimm-mbp.local Pd
Le 2011-10-24 à 10:32:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
The only DS external stuff I've seen are the ds-gui abstractions by Luke Iannini and
some other library (similar to list-abs) that I can't remember the name of.
I mean externals as in not .pd files.
Basically same terminology as anyone
::tmp_path {}
set ::sys_searchpath $::tmp_path
set ::tmp_path {}
lappend ::tmp_path {/Users/megrimm/Library/Pd}
lappend ::tmp_path {/Library/Pd}
lappend ::tmp_path
{/Users/megrimm/Desktop/PD/zext/source/Pd-0.43.1-extended/packages/darwin_app/build/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20111024.app/Contents/Resources/extra}
set
On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 07:46:03 -0700
Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 08:36:39AM +0100, Andy Farnell wrote:
On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:16:18 +0900
i go bananas hard@gmail.com wrote:
in that case, it might be as simple as a nice email to Shadrokh
On Monday, October 24, 2011 2:47 PM, m.e.grimm megr...@gmail.com
wrote:
Also, you'll probably see a menu called Apple on
the menubar, that was a bug previously that probably has not been fixed. Or
maybe two Help menus.
Yes. Apple. its there
Try running it like this:
-stderr -d
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