Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound

2012-07-04 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Iain, I guess that You mean with all of them the other pd-related packages, not jack. Am I right? I will try it soon. 2012/7/3 Iain Mott m...@reverberant.com Hi Stefan - i would try de-installing all of them, then install only puredata - and try that audio test i suggested. See what

Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound

2012-07-04 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Iain, I did as You suggested, the problem remains the same. One problem might be: When I reinstall PD some of the other PD-related packages will be reinstalled to. But I've read in the meantime, that my problem could be a bug, related to my version of PD. It seems to be the same problem like

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43-3 released

2012-07-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Miller On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 14:11 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: Hi all, Pd version 0.43-3 is available on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm or via git from sourceforge: git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data As always: Many thanks for your

Re: [PD] first trial,. but no sound

2012-07-04 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 08:20 +0200, Stefan Thomas wrote: Dear Iain, I did as You suggested, the problem remains the same. One problem might be: When I reinstall PD some of the other PD-related packages will be reinstalled to. But I've read in the meantime, that my problem could be a bug,

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43-3 released

2012-07-04 Thread James Dunn
Quoth Roman Haefeli, on 04/07/2012 12:14: I'm also interested to hear if others experience similar issues or if it is only me having trouble with 0.43's design. Up to 0.42 everything was fine for me regarding audio. This may be related: I just installed pd-extended 0.43.1 on Ubuntu 12.04 and I

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43-3 released

2012-07-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-07-04 13:14, Roman Haefeli wrote: Keeping the thread talking to the audio back end always running has some advantages: * The audio card cannot be stolen by other softwares while DSP is off * A cycle of turning DSP off and on is much

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43-3 released

2012-07-04 Thread Chrissie Caulfield
I posted a patch for this a while ago but I don't think it got incorporated upstream: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2012-04/018365.html Chrissie On 04/07/2012 12:56, James Dunn wrote: Quoth Roman Haefeli, on 04/07/2012 12:14: I'm also interested to hear if others experience

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43-3 released

2012-07-04 Thread João Pais
The thing I'm actually looking forward to doing is to extend textfiles and message boxes and data structures to be able to spit lists of atoms around much more flexibly than now. independenly of how many new possibilities would come up from adding lists to data structures, working with

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43-3 released

2012-07-04 Thread Miller Puckette
On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 02:46:20PM +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-07-04 13:14, Roman Haefeli wrote: Keeping the thread talking to the audio back end always running has some advantages: * The audio card cannot be stolen by other

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43-3 released

2012-07-04 Thread Miller Puckette
Yeah... I'm still trying to figure out how to make data structures less clunky without adding unnecessary complexity... I'm planning to go back and look at that again. Miller On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 05:37:49PM +0200, João Pais wrote: The thing I'm actually looking forward to doing is to extend

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43-3 released

2012-07-04 Thread João Pais
I would find it very simple if a method would allow me to find scalar nr 2571 (I have a patch with many more) by sending the message [traverse , bang, next 2571(, than by building a [2571(-[until]-[next( structure. Or for example, it's impossible (?) to erase scalers without using the

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43-3 released

2012-07-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mit, 2012-07-04 at 09:16 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 02:46:20PM +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-07-04 13:14, Roman Haefeli wrote: Keeping the thread talking to the audio back end always running has

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43-3 released

2012-07-04 Thread Miller Puckette
(taking this off pd-announce - sorry I didn't notice that earlier :) Yep, it was indeed my original focus, and it's proved hard to make it as wonderful as I keep hoping it will someday be. Anyhow, making traversal more convenient is definitely something I want to do. BEsides the ideas you

Re: [PD] Tipps and patches for Sound Installation

2012-07-04 Thread Dan Wilcox
Sounds like you want a granulator ... check out the grannie-basher etc: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-06/070773.html I'd imagine you could use [bonk~] or just the incoming signal envelope to trigger sample grabbing, then feed that into a granulator ... On Jul 3, 2012, at

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43-3 released

2012-07-04 Thread João Pais
Yep, it was indeed my original focus, and it's proved hard to make it as wonderful as I keep hoping it will someday be. Anyhow, making traversal more convenient is definitely something I want to do. BEsides the ideas you mentioned, here are two others - first, being ble somehow to name a

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43-3 released

2012-07-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi Miller, I think the whole gpointer thingy forces Pd users to think about unnecessary details-- like scalar creation order-- just in order to use them, which is exactly why the #1 complaint about them is that nobody understands how to use them.  You've designed the rest of Pd to hide just

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43-3 released

2012-07-04 Thread Miller Puckette
These are good ideas, thanks. M On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 11:40:57AM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hi Miller, I think the whole gpointer thingy forces Pd users to think about unnecessary details-- like scalar creation order-- just in order to use them, which is exactly why the #1

Re: [PD] FTM for PD

2012-07-04 Thread João Pais
hi, any news on this? João thnx.. found some threads that seemed kinda encouraging but got stuck in the sndlib compilation. I' ll test it in linux On Jul 1, 2012, at 5:55 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: On 06/30/2012 12:35 AM, José Rafael Subía Valdez wrote: Hello list

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43-3 released

2012-07-04 Thread João Pais
the user doesn'tget expressivity through data structures that would be comparable to just coding a c external, but they do get a (somewhat) comparable level of complexity. yes, the worse is that the enigmatic (gpointer) don't mean anything for someone that can't read the C code, like me.

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43-3 released

2012-07-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com To: Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu; Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43-3 released the user doesn'tget