[PD] Pd and RME HDSP alsa vs jack performance

2014-04-15 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, following up onto some earlier postings I had made about the current problems running Pd with any buffersize larger(!) than 5 using alsa, the mmap code and an RME HDSP Multiface on Debian Linux, here are some more results from tests I made recently: Alsa only works with audiobuf smaller

Re: [PD] Pd and RME HDSP alsa vs jack performance

2014-04-15 Thread Peter P.
* Federico Galland federicogall...@gmail.com [2014-04-15 17:46]: On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 16:07:03 -0400 Peter P. p8...@aol.com wrote: Hi list, following up onto some earlier postings I had made about the current problems running Pd with any buffersize larger(!) than 5 using alsa

[PD] segfault using abstraction containing partconv~ in a larger patch

2014-03-11 Thread Peter P.
Dear list, I have pd segfaulting when I try to open a larger patch, that contains one abstraction which in turn contains Ben Saylor's [partconv~] external. Only opening the abstraction itself does not cause the crash. GDB Backtrace: #0 0x76a51f69 in ?? () from

Re: [PD] jack and callbacks

2014-03-04 Thread Peter P.
Hi, * Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu [2014-03-04 04:16]: The callback flag instructs the Pd scheduler to run within callbacks from the audio system; otherwise the audio system might still be opened in callback mode (in portaudio or jack) or not (in alsa or mmio) but if yes, the scheduler and

Re: [PD] jack and callbacks

2014-03-04 Thread Peter P.
* pured...@11h11.com pured...@11h11.com [2014-03-04 23:05]: Trying to have the lowest latency with Jack / Linux / 64bit / RT kernel / 48000 / 3 / 64. So should I use this too? Best see for yourself if it has an advantage on your system or not. Seems hard to give a generaizable recommendation on

[PD] jack and callbacks

2014-03-03 Thread Peter P.
Hi, just learned that my Pd vanilla Pd-0.45.0 from Miller's Git sources works much better (less drop outs, etc) under jack when enabling use callbacks. Is there a way to enable this worthy parameter from the command line? Perhaps a way of setting it statically, maybe in s_audio_jack.c ? Thank

Re: [PD] mac os9 version

2014-02-25 Thread Peter P.
* Simon Iten itensi...@gmail.com [2014-02-25 14:31]: is there or better was there ever a version of pure data for mac os9? the bits i find on the net seem to indicate no. but maybe a call here will reveal a version. (miller?) The only thing I have ever seen was GEM for Max under OS9. best,

[PD] Pos1 and End in keyboard editing

2014-02-14 Thread Peter P.
Dear list, this has probably been discussed already (didn't find sth after a quick search in the archive though): When using the computer keyboard's Pos1 and End keys to jump to the beginning of an object or numberbox when editing its contents, will make the cursor move there, but upon typing new

Re: [PD] Pos1 and End in keyboard editing

2014-02-14 Thread Peter P.
* Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu [2014-02-15 01:00]: In pd-l2ork you can do that and also use ctrl+home/end (or arrow left/right) to navigate between spaces inside a multi-arg text, as well as between multiple lines of comments for instance, since pd-l2ork also supports saving endlines inside

Re: [PD] Pos1 and End in keyboard editing

2014-02-14 Thread Peter P.
* Brian Fay ovaltinevor...@gmail.com [2014-02-15 00:52]: It's been like that for as long as I can remember, and I hate it!!! Ok, then I will Calm down and carry on(tm). Thanks! P ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

[PD] filter-graph and lop~ phase

2014-02-13 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, just wondering if I am getting something wrong plotting the phase response of lop~ using the abstractions filter-graph1.pd and filter-graph2.pd as exemplified in 3.audio.examples/H10.measurement.pd For a simple one-zero lowpass filter using [rzero~ -1] the phase response is plotted

[PD] cosinesum vs sinesum in arrays

2014-01-29 Thread Peter P.
Dear List, not sure if I am getting something wrong here, but it seems that sending the message ; cosinesum array999 1 does something different (besides an obvious phase shift between sine and cosine functions) to the resulting contents of that table: the first partial on cosinesum seems to

Re: [PD] cosinesum vs sinesum in arrays

2014-01-29 Thread Peter P.
is with regard to a different behavior of sinesum vs cosinesum in Pd(0.45.0) when specifying the partials though. On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Peter P. p8...@aol.com wrote: [...] not sure if I am getting something wrong here, but it seems that sending the message ; cosinesum array999 1 should

Re: [PD] jack periods 32 = no pd

2014-01-28 Thread Peter P.
* Peter P. p8...@aol.com [2014-01-28 00:35]: * Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu [2014-01-28 00:02]: Probably that's so - but Pd should still be able to deal with the mismatch. OTOH, since Pd is built-in 64 blocksize, you wouldn't be able to reduce Pd's latency by reducing jack's blocksize

Re: [PD] jack periods 32 = no pd

2014-01-27 Thread Peter P.
* pured...@11h11.com pured...@11h11.com [2014-01-27 19:54]: hi, in my quest of lowering my round-trip latency, I am configuring Jack with: periods (buffer size): 32; nperiods: 2 / 3 (doesn't matter); rate 48000 when starting pd -rt -jack -channels 2 (-nosleep) = doesn't start. other

Re: [PD] jack periods 32 = no pd

2014-01-27 Thread Peter P.
* pured...@11h11.com pured...@11h11.com [2014-01-27 21:24]: pd -rt -jack -channels 2 priority 6 scheduling enabled. priority 8 scheduling enabled. Partial read Partial read ... pd: malloc.c:3822: _int_malloc: Assertion `(unsigned long)(size) = (unsigned long)(nb)' failed. Pd: signal 6

[PD] Compile iem_ambi from svn?

2014-01-27 Thread Peter P.
Dear list, Please excuse me for asking this again, but I am trying to compile single externals from svn (in my case it is iem_ambi). I am afraid I haven't managed to locate documentation as to how this can be done and I am confused by new/old build systems etc. upon issuing a make -f

Re: [PD] jack periods 32 = no pd

2014-01-27 Thread Peter P.
* Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu [2014-01-28 00:02]: Probably that's so - but Pd should still be able to deal with the mismatch. OTOH, since Pd is built-in 64 blocksize, you wouldn't be able to reduce Pd's latency by reducing jack's blocksize below 64. Allright, then I can live without going

Re: [PD] comments with trailing | ?

2014-01-24 Thread Peter P.
Dear IOhannes, dear Jonathan, dear list, I feel ashamed (and old-fashioned) as I have not seen this new feature of Pd as a feature I am afraid. Thanks for pointing it out to me. I think it is a nice addon, but also wonder if there is a nice way to disable this functionality at all. Is there an

Re: [PD] console font size really big

2014-01-24 Thread Peter P.
Johnathan WIlkins wrote: I'd be curious to know what window manager you are using. Try going into pd-gui.tcl and find the line: # tk scaling 1 Remove the #, save the file, and then restart Pd. See if that solves the problem. (Depending on how you are running Pd, you may need to have

Re: [PD] mouse icons

2014-01-24 Thread Peter P.
Simon Wise wrote: They are certainly are system icons, they change if I change the system cursor theme. In xfce different sets of icons are selectable as themes for the mouse. But here there has always been one missing ... the one shown while hovering over an inlet or outlet in edit mode, but

Re: [PD] comments with trailing | ?

2014-01-24 Thread Peter P.
* Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu [2014-01-24 23:36]: Delete these lines in g_text.c: /* for comments, just draw a bar on RHS if unlocked; when a visible canvas is unlocked we have to call this anew on all comments, and when locked we erase them all via the annoying

Re: [PD] console font size really big

2014-01-24 Thread Peter P.
* Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com [2014-01-25 00:28]: On 01/24/2014 05:31 PM, Peter P. wrote: Johnathan WIlkins wrote: I'd be curious to know what window manager you are using. Try going into pd-gui.tcl and find the line: # tk scaling 1 Remove the #, save the file, and then restart

Re: [PD] create list by header message

2014-01-24 Thread Peter P.
Dear IOhannes, Roman, Jonathan, thank you for your kind replies, and the examples you posted! It helped me quite a bit! best, P * IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at [2014-01-24 10:48]: On 01/23/2014 07:43 PM, Peter P. wrote: Hi, this might be totally simple, but I am wondering what

[PD] create list by header message

2014-01-23 Thread Peter P.
Hi, this might be totally simple, but I am wondering what is the most elegant way of creating a list out of individual messages 12 23 34 45 meaning a list which holds four items, and which is always created at the number '12', and sent out at the nu,ner '45', yielding: list 12 23 34 45 so

[PD] comments with trailing | ?

2014-01-23 Thread Peter P.
Hi, I am on Pd-0.45.0 vanilla compiled from Miller's git sources on Linux with Tcl/Tk 8.5.0-2.1 When I insert a comment into a patch, there is always a trailing | (pipe) character (perhaps some sort of a cursor), that remains visible, also after clicking on the canvas background to end editing

[PD] console font size really big

2014-01-23 Thread Peter P.
Hi, I am on Pd-0.45.0 vanilla compiled from Miller's git sources on Linux with Tcl/Tk 8.5.0-2.1 The fontsize of the console is really big compared to the patch. What can I do about it? Using the -font-size flag does affect the patches itself, but not the console. Using the fontsize menu entry

[PD] mouse icons

2014-01-23 Thread Peter P.
Hi, I am on Pd-0.45.0 vanilla compiled from Miller's git sources on Linux with Tcl/Tk 8.5.0-2.1 In what sense are the mouse icons that Pd uses dependent on the operating system? I feel they have changed in a way that confuses me since I compiled Pd on a new Debian box. So it might either be

Re: [PD] gametrak question

2014-01-22 Thread Peter P.
* peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com [2014-01-22 23:05]: Does anyone know if there is a way of connecting the gametrak to pd without modifying the hardware itself? I use it with [hid] and it works well (mine have the usb connector) ___

Re: [PD] gametrak question

2014-01-22 Thread Peter P.
* peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com [2014-01-23 02:53]: Thanks, It is recognised and it opens fine. But no values are outputted. The same thing is happening in max. Then I came across this and thought maybe it's not 'meant' to work. But I'm not sure.

[PD] oops: ALSA cards not reported in order?

2013-10-26 Thread Peter P.
Hi! Pd 0.45.0 informs me at startup that oops: ALSA cards not reported in order? while all seems to work normally. I also have this: cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDA Intel at 0xf822 irq 45 29 [ThinkPadEC ]: ThinkPad EC -

[PD] Call for Applications: IEM Graz Music Residency Program 2014

2013-07-12 Thread Peter P.
IEM Music Residency Program 2014 - Call for Applications (please distribute) The Institute of Electronic Music and Acoustics (IEM) in Graz, Austria is happy to announce its new Music Residency program and invites applications from artists, scholars and practitioners for the 2014 edition. The

[PD] Job offer: University Assistant in Graz

2013-04-15 Thread Peter P.
FYI, best, P 8--- University Assistant Position @ KUG, AUSTRIA Interdisciplinary research on spatial organ sound generation and analysis thereof, in terms of artistically aesthetics, sound design and perceptual evaluation. The

[PD] Recursion in Gem: URL dead

2013-04-04 Thread Peter P.
Dear List, dear Claude, was trying to find the cool recursion-for-GEM tutorial, that Claude posted some years ago. Here is the mailing list announcement: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-07/052198.html And the webpage, sadly with defunct links:

Re: [PD] Recursion in Gem: URL dead

2013-04-04 Thread Peter P.
Mon cher Cyrille, * Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net [2013-04-04 12:01]: hello, is this the example that are now part of gem: Gem/example/13.recursion ? Indeed! Absolutely! Thank you so much for your quick answer! best, P cheers c Le 04/04/2013 11:23, Peter P. a écrit : Dear List

Re: [PD] raspberry pi user experience

2013-01-29 Thread Peter P.
* Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net [2013-01-28 10:41]: hello, i use the beringer UCA222 and got it to work with 5ms audio bufer with the pi in full duplex. great news! which sampling rate do you run by the way? I suppose the hardware AD/DAcs are fixed to 48k. I never completely understood this,

Re: [PD] raspberry pi user experience

2013-01-29 Thread Peter P.
* Robert Grah smilingmolec...@web.de [2013-01-29 13:30]: Hallo, does someone has experiences with M-Audio Fast Track Ultra 8R or RME multiface or other devices with 8 or more channels? Can the PI handle so much channels? The HDSP/Multiface solutions require a pci pcie pcmcia or express card

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd group in Athens

2012-12-21 Thread Peter P.
* adr...@gmail.com adr...@gmail.com [2012-12-21 10:53]: ok, four people would be ok if all four (or at least three) had some stuff to show. But if it's gonna be one showing and the rest watching...dunno. Didn't expect huge numbers to start with, but what we have for now doesn't convince me,

[PD] No jack connections with -noadc

2012-12-11 Thread Peter P.
Dear list, it seems that pd can only connect to jack when started without a -noadc flag, ie. pd -noprefs -jack -noadc does not work, while pd -noprefs -jack does work. This is Pd-0.43.1 (test5) compiled 19:10:13 Dec 12 2011, a vanilla git checkout. Jack is jackd2 on Debian,

Re: [PD] RME MADI HDSPe

2012-11-23 Thread Peter P.
* Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com [2012-11-23 11:55]: Hi all, I know several of you use or have used an RME MADI HDSPe card in the past. I am trying to configure one right now for a concert tomorrow and for some strange reason it only works with latencies above 400ms (set in the alsa

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-11-19 Thread Peter P.
* Max abonneme...@revolwear.com [2012-11-19 09:05]: I just got a RME Fireface UCX and will test it on linux soon. it has a USB class compliant mode, so it should run. The documentation says that the latency in the class compliant mode is not as good as with the proprietary driver. It would

Re: [PD] Massive Multichannel system

2012-11-15 Thread Peter P.
* Fabio Kaiser faboil...@gmail.com [2012-11-14 16:33]: Hi, I want to build an computer audio mixing/processing system based on PD. My questions are mainly concerned with the stability and reliability of the system. So what do I need to do to make a software design in PD stable? [...]

Re: [PD] mysterious segfault while receiving midi commands...

2012-10-31 Thread Peter P.
* Jörn Nettingsmeier netti...@stackingdwarves.net [2012-10-31 17:47]: On 10/30/2012 10:10 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: That's a tough one to track down. One thing I'd recommend is to reduce the complexity. Specifically, [readanysf~] is a wonderful object, but relies on many many