Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-07-24 Thread naysayer
thanks Nicholas. we have an rs components here in Australia but £6 is about $18 from me and i want to get about 20 of them. as i am on an artist wage, i don't need high precision stuff. i'm sure there must be some where i can get one that is cheaper. if anyone can give me model numbers and/or

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-07-24 Thread Steffen
On 24/07/2007, at 3.36, Andy Farnell wrote: Otherwise... pinball machines, doorbells (the ding - dong type) Going to the dumpster is always good, but requires patines. I ripped no less then three solenoids (along with other things, of cause) out of an old Technics M45 tape deck.

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-07-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi tom i bought them in an ordinary electronic store in my town for ca. 3 euros/piece. but i don't know where they got them. they still have around 1000 pieces, iirc. i had the impression, that this solenoids are as ordinary things as electro motors and resistors and thus should be available in

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-07-23 Thread Andy Farnell
straw + 300m of 32 SWG copper wire + iron nail + lots of patience = solenoid I used to make these as a kid, mini rail guns to fire nails :) You can rig up a slow spinning drill to help you wind them quicker. Watch they don't get too hot and melt the drinking straw. Resistance should be about

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-07-22 Thread naysayer
i roman, i was just revisiting this thread. could you tell me what solenoids you used, i'm have a really hard time finding cheap domestic solenoids for a similar project. they all seem to be really expensive. is there a good place to purchase cheap solenoids, or somewhere to get second hand ones.

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-06-22 Thread Thomas O Fredericks
So, SMS is signicantly slower because it uses ASCII conversion ? Interesting. Even at high baud rates ? SMS is aimed at ease of use and precision. Although I am surprised to ear about SMS's and Pduino's speed problems. I made an installation with an SSC-32 servo controller controlling 24

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-06-21 Thread Alexandre Quessy
Hi! I don't want to insist... but a task like this would be much easier with the http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Code/SimpleMessageSystem than with something not-as-flexible like Pduino. a ( ;-P ) 2007/6/17, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think it's more related to the serial

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-06-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 09:21 -0400, Alexandre Quessy wrote: Hi! I don't want to insist... but a task like this would be much easier with the http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Code/SimpleMessageSystem than with something not-as-flexible like Pduino. a yo, are talking about the task i

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-06-21 Thread Alexandre Quessy
Hi, 2007/6/21, tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Roman Haefeli wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 09:21 -0400, Alexandre Quessy wrote: Hi! I don't want to insist... but a task like this would be much easier with the http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Code/SimpleMessageSystem than with something

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-06-21 Thread tim
Alexandre Quessy wrote: Hi, 2007/6/21, tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Roman Haefeli wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 09:21 -0400, Alexandre Quessy wrote: Hi! I don't want to insist... but a task like this would be much easier with the http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Code/SimpleMessageSystem

[PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-06-17 Thread Derek Holzer
Jeff Mann showed us this video in the Arduino workshop at Pickled Feet (Berlin) yesterday: http://www.youtube.com/?v=g_hiz-Kx0kM Great stuff! I'd be interested to hear from the person who made it about the solenoid control circuits (transistor, relay?), or if they'd be interested to share the

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-06-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That's Roman of netpd fame (you can see netpd on the screen). I forgot whether Pduino was used for that or not. I would like to know. A student here at Poly in Brooklyn used Maxduino (the Max/MSP port by Marius Schebella) but had a lot of trouble with timing. I would like to see

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-06-17 Thread Derek Holzer
Hi HC, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I would like to see whether arduino USB can do tight timing like in that video. me too! I've been using Arduino to get Theremin sensor data into PD during a workshop last week, but I found it quite steppy. d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-06-17 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 18:24 +0200, Derek Holzer wrote: Jeff Mann showed us this video in the Arduino workshop at Pickled Feet (Berlin) yesterday: http://www.youtube.com/?v=g_hiz-Kx0kM Great stuff! I'd be interested to hear from the person who made it about the solenoid control circuits

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-06-17 Thread Derek Holzer
Hi Roman, yes, it was really fantastic. - qseq2 to arduino converter patch How is this done? PDuino? Direct serial connection? - relayboard with 8 times this [1] circuit (i replaced the BC548 by a MOSFET of the type BS170 [thank you, mamalala]) and thanks to you for sharing! d. Roman

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-06-17 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 12:41 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: That's Roman of netpd fame (you can see netpd on the screen). I forgot whether Pduino was used for that or not. I would like to know. A student here at Poly in Brooklyn used Maxduino (the Max/MSP port by Marius

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-06-17 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 18:59 +0200, Derek Holzer wrote: How is this done? PDuino? Direct serial connection? for reasons, i mentioned in the previous post, i did not use the [arduino] abstraction, but made my own patch to generate the messages, that are sent to [comport]. but it uses also the

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-06-17 Thread Derek Holzer
Well, I'd be interested to see how the messages are formatted and sent to [comport]. So, yes, please! thx, d. Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 18:59 +0200, Derek Holzer wrote: How is this done? PDuino? Direct serial connection? for reasons, i mentioned in the previous post, i did

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-06-17 Thread Steffen
On 17/06/2007, at 18.59, Derek Holzer wrote: and thanks to you for sharing! I second that! Have been wondering about it since http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-03/048389.html ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-06-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jun 17, 2007, at 1:10 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 12:41 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: That's Roman of netpd fame (you can see netpd on the screen). I forgot whether Pduino was used for that or not. I would like to know. A student here at Poly in Brooklyn used

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-06-17 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 19:25 +0200, Derek Holzer wrote: Well, I'd be interested to see how the messages are formatted and sent to [comport]. So, yes, please! yo, here we go: http://romanhaefeli.net/software/pd/qseq2_to_arduino.pd roman

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-06-17 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 14:36 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I don't think that the timing problem is related to Pd but rather the USB-serial drivers. exactly, this is what i actually meant. Writing your own firmware to trigger events will work if you send the timing, which

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-06-17 Thread Thomas Grill
It might be worth mentioning that Max/MSP has a couple of messages to control scheduler accuracy. It's in Options/Performance Options... greetings, Thomas Am 17.06.2007 um 18:41 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: That's Roman of netpd fame (you can see netpd on the screen). I forgot whether

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-06-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think it's more related to the serial object in Max. It's pretty strange and old. Jasch recently ported Pd's comport to Max because he was sick of the Max serial object. .hc On Jun 17, 2007, at 4:36 PM, Thomas Grill wrote: It might be worth mentioning that Max/MSP has a couple of