Re: [PD] control-click in edit mode is gone

2007-12-05 Thread Tim Boykett
On 04/12/2007, at 6:18 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: My intention is to fix Pd to allow direct copy and pasting in object boxes so we can ditch the Text Editor all together. hear hear! this is one of the elements that keeps frustrating people I introduce to PD. splat-V in an object box

[PD] control-click in edit mode is gone

2007-12-04 Thread tim
Hi, Pd version 0.40.3-extended-20071116, ubuntu 2.6.17-10: Control-clicking gui objects in Edit mode no longer lets you manipulate them, but instead it just opens the context menu. (like it would on a Mac ?). Personally I prefer the old control-click-in-edit-mode functionality. thanks, Tim PS:

Re: [PD] control-click in edit mode is gone

2007-12-04 Thread Max Neupert
also cmd-t or apple-t is now suddenly the font bomb instead of the text editor why is that? Am 04.12.2007 um 11:01 schrieb tim: Hi, Pd version 0.40.3-extended-20071116, ubuntu 2.6.17-10: Control-clicking gui objects in Edit mode no longer lets you manipulate them, but instead it just

Re: [PD] control-click in edit mode is gone

2007-12-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Max Neupert hat gesagt: // Max Neupert wrote: also cmd-t or apple-t is now suddenly the font bomb instead of the text editor why is that? IIRC Hans changed that in pd-ext. to follow Apple's OS-X GUI guidelines instead of Pd's unwritten crossplatform GUI guidelines. Ciao -- Frank

Re: [PD] control-click in edit mode is gone

2007-12-04 Thread Max Neupert
Am 04.12.2007 um 13:55 schrieb Frank Barknecht: Hallo, Max Neupert hat gesagt: // Max Neupert wrote: also cmd-t or apple-t is now suddenly the font bomb instead of the text editor why is that? IIRC Hans changed that in pd-ext. to follow Apple's OS-X GUI guidelines instead of Pd's unwritten

Re: [PD] control-click in edit mode is gone

2007-12-04 Thread Miller Puckette
I think it's a real question whether it's better to have Pd act similarly across all platforms or whether it's best to adapt key bindings, etc., to specific ones. Certainly the first solution makes long-term maintainabilty (a high priority for me) easier. cheers Miller On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at

Re: [PD] control-click in edit mode is gone

2007-12-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Miller Puckette hat gesagt: // Miller Puckette wrote: I think it's a real question whether it's better to have Pd act similarly across all platforms or whether it's best to adapt key bindings, etc., to specific ones. Certainly the first solution makes long-term maintainabilty (a high

Re: [PD] control-click in edit mode is gone

2007-12-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 4, 2007, at 8:09 AM, Max Neupert wrote: Am 04.12.2007 um 13:55 schrieb Frank Barknecht: Hallo, Max Neupert hat gesagt: // Max Neupert wrote: also cmd-t or apple-t is now suddenly the font bomb instead of the text editor why is that? IIRC Hans changed that in pd-ext. to follow

Re: [PD] control-click in edit mode is gone

2007-12-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
It's Cmd-click on Mac OS X. .hc On Dec 4, 2007, at 5:01 AM, tim wrote: Hi, Pd version 0.40.3-extended-20071116, ubuntu 2.6.17-10: Control-clicking gui objects in Edit mode no longer lets you manipulate them, but instead it just opens the context menu. (like it would on a Mac ?).

Re: [PD] control-click in edit mode is gone

2007-12-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mac OS X, Cmd-T is the font editor in every other app, I figure Pd can differentiate itself in better, more substantial ways ;). .hc On Dec 4, 2007, at 5:13 AM, Max Neupert wrote: also cmd-t or apple-t is now suddenly the font bomb instead of the text editor why is that? Am 04.12.2007

Re: [PD] control-click in edit mode is gone

2007-12-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
The key binding code right now is very messy, with two parallel implementations (one for the Pd window and one for canvases). I am willing to clean it up and make it straightforward, also making it easy and straightforward to support native key commands on each platform. I've seen much

Re: [PD] control-click in edit mode is gone

2007-12-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007, Frank Barknecht wrote: Miller Puckette hat gesagt: // Miller Puckette wrote: I think it's a real question whether it's better to have Pd act similarly across all platforms or whether it's best to adapt key bindings, etc., to specific ones. Certainly the first solution makes

Re: [PD] control-click in edit mode is gone

2007-12-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: This leads me to the question of the Text Editor. Is there any reason to have it besides as a workaround for the lack of copy-n- paste in boxes? What DesireData does is put the Text Editor directly in the patch, no extra window, and make it

Re: [PD] control-click in edit mode is gone

2007-12-04 Thread Max Neupert
Am 04.12.2007 um 18:18 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: My intention is to fix Pd to allow direct copy and pasting in object boxes so we can ditch the Text Editor all together. dreams come true! thanks. ps: xmas is approaching, maybe we should start a wishlist.

Re: [PD] control-click in edit mode is gone

2007-12-04 Thread Chris McCormick
On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 12:18:51AM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 18:19 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Miller Puckette hat gesagt: // Miller Puckette wrote: I think it's a real question whether it's better to have Pd act similarly across all platforms or