Re: [PD] isosonic curves : level the perceptual loudness of different pitches

2010-04-08 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010, Alexandre Porres wrote: thanks, I have to correct the broken link now!cheers do you mean http://artengine.ca/~catalogue-pd/28-Porres.pdf ? Which broken link was that ? Btw any links to http://pure-data.ca/ have to be changed to links to http://pure-data.artengine.ca

Re: [PD] isosonic curves : level the perceptual loudness of different pitches

2010-04-08 Thread Alexandre Porres
thanks, I have to correct the broken link now! cheers 2010/4/8 Mathieu Bouchard > > This was first presented in the Second Puredata International Convention, >> in which I thank Mathieu again as well as the other people involved in the >> production of it - the event was basically a turn point

[PD] isosonic curves : level the perceptual loudness of different pitches

2010-04-08 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
This was first presented in the Second Puredata International Convention, in which I thank Mathieu again as well as the other people involved in the production of it - the event was basically a turn point in my life for the better :) But the work I presented then seems to have disappeared fr

Re: [PD] isosonic curves : level the perceptual loudness of different pitches

2010-03-25 Thread Alexandre Porres
Well, I ain't released at all, I just a briefly mentioned. But in a portuguese mail list they were so excited about it I had to release and did thank and make references to all of who helped, especially Mathieu, of Course, without whom I'd still be stuck and not kowing what do to at all :) And as

[PD] isosonic curves : level the perceptual loudness of different pitches

2010-03-25 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
In Fact, I just compiled 2 ways of doing the phons curves, by Robinson-Dadson, and the ISO226:2003. glad to see it's released and GPL'ed, but can you just add « with lots of help from Mathieu Bouchard » somewhere in the comments ? _ _ __ ___ _ _ ___

Re: [PD] isosonic curves : level the perceptual loudness of different pitches

2010-03-24 Thread Alexandre Porres
Oops, couldn't find or load the [mtx_phon_curve]. But I got Pd Extended with iemmatrix, what could I be doing wrong? do you all have it? cheers alex 2010/3/24 Alexandre Porres > Hi, I found an acient thread that really interests me a lot! > > In Fact, I just compiled 2 ways of doing the phons

Re: [PD] isosonic curves : level the perceptual loudness of different pitches

2007-03-04 Thread Alexandre Quessy
Hello all, This abstraction is very nice, but computing matrices on every note is quite expensive on the CPU, no? Perhaps it would be better to store it in a table, let say using 60 (pd)db as a reference. The only thing is that low and high notes are multiplied by factor much bigger than 1 and it m

Re: [PD] isosonic curves : level the perceptual loudness of different pitches

2007-02-12 Thread Denis Trapeznikoff
2007/2/9, Ed Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: So, if you have a signal at 96dBPD (-4dBFS) and you set it to 90dBPD (-10dbFS), the loudness will be heard to drop by the same amount as when you then set it to 84dBPD (-16dBFS). ... but remember, that ear's frequency response curve is dependent on the l

Re: [PD] isosonic curves : level the perceptual loudness of different pitches

2007-02-10 Thread Franz Zotter
Hi Alexandre, hi all, Yesterday I corrected an error in mtx_phon_curve-help.pd and changed the behaviour of [mtx_phon_curve] abstraction (pure-data.cvs.sf.net/cvsroot/puredata/externals/iem/iemmatrix/abs). Now the output is in dB, just like everyone would expect; before it was p^2/p0^2 ... On

Re: [PD] isosonic curves : level the perceptual loudness of different pitches

2007-02-09 Thread Ed Kelly
Hi Alex, all ...but PDs dB goes to 0, because we have to have the numbers following the same scheme - so that 0 means 0 always I think. Industry uses dBFS (deciBel Full Scale) because it is measuring the signal against the full scale from -96dB in 16bit recordings to 0dB (all bits used). Ba

Re: [PD] isosonic curves : level the perceptual loudness of different pitches

2007-02-08 Thread Alexandre Quessy
Hi all, 2007/2/8, Frank Barknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Yes, it's new. You could use the [list-len] abstraction from [list]-abs instead, but you need to check out an older version, because the newest one just wraps [list length]. zexy's [length] also does the job, as far as I know. As I can se

Re: [PD] isosonic curves : level the perceptual loudness of different pitches

2007-02-08 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Alexandre Quessy hat gesagt: // Alexandre Quessy wrote: > It appears that the object [list length] cannot be created. Is this a > pd 0.40 new feature of the [list] object ? (using pd 0.39-2 extended > on Linux) Yes, it's new. You could use the [list-len] abstraction from [list]-abs instead

Re: [PD] isosonic curves : level the perceptual loudness of different pitches

2007-02-08 Thread Alexandre Quessy
Hello all, Very nice, mr. Zmoelnig. Of course, this is exactly what I need. It appears that the object [list length] cannot be created. Is this a pd 0.40 new feature of the [list] object ? (using pd 0.39-2 extended on Linux) To use this very nice abstraction, I simply need to multiply the amplit

Re: [PD] isosonic curves : level the perceptual loudness of different pitches

2007-01-25 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Alexandre Quessy wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to create an abstraction to adjust the amplitude of > synthetic sounds according to the ear sensitivity. At a given > amplitude, we hear the notes in the middle range louder than the high > and low notes. This perceptual property of the audition c

Re: [PD] isosonic curves : level the perceptual loudness of different pitches

2007-01-25 Thread Charles Henry
Hi, Alexandre, On the one hand, a filter could be designed to approximate what you need, but this sounds like a job for the wavelet transform. A linear filter can't handle the level-dependent changes in iso-sonic curves. In the wavelet domain, you could apply different compression/expansion curv

[PD] isosonic curves : level the perceptual loudness of different pitches

2007-01-24 Thread Alexandre Quessy
Hi all, I would like to create an abstraction to adjust the amplitude of synthetic sounds according to the ear sensitivity. At a given amplitude, we hear the notes in the middle range louder than the high and low notes. This perceptual property of the audition can be somewhat undesired in a music