Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-07-22 Thread Julian Peterson
Hello list. I am getting the exact same issue mentioned by Atte Jensen. Was there ever a solution? I've already tried all of the typical optimizations: rt-kernel, rt-priorities straight, tinkering with jack settings, etc. I get this even with the built-in test audio/midi patch. Atte-- are

Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-07-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 00:32 +0200, Derek Holzer wrote: I run PD as root (not sudo, but real root) for click-free operation. But Ubuntu has this weird thing where you can't be root, you can only sudo. Very strange... anyways, worth

Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-07-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 00:32 +0200, Derek Holzer wrote: I run PD as root (not sudo, but real root) for click-free operation. But Ubuntu has this weird thing where you can't be root, you can only sudo. Very strange... anyways, worth a try. of course, you can become 'real' root on ubuntu as

Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-07-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 13:48 -0400, patrick wrote: hi, i don't use pd-extended, but i think it's almost the same. the only option missing is: -nosleep (useful for dual-core). so be sure in qjackctl - setup: Realtime Periods/Buffer: 2 Sample Rate: 44100 (or more) Frames/Period: 256 (i

Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-07-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Atte André Jensen wrote: patrick wrote: 1) pd -? says -audiobuf is in ms, so 256 wouldn't make sense, or...? why shouldn't it make sense? 256ms is justas valid as 7ms 2) I thought that jack clients automatically got the same buffer size as jack, which means that is doesn't make sense

Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-07-02 Thread Atte André Jensen
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Atte André Jensen wrote: patrick wrote: 1) pd -? says -audiobuf is in ms, so 256 wouldn't make sense, or...? why shouldn't it make sense? 256ms is justas valid as 7ms Because he's building a commandline to match a jacksetup of Frames/Period: 256... specify that

Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-07-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Atte André Jensen wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Atte André Jensen wrote: patrick wrote: 1) pd -? says -audiobuf is in ms, so 256 wouldn't make sense, or...? why shouldn't it make sense? 256ms is justas valid as 7ms Because he's building a commandline to match a jacksetup of

Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-07-01 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Derek Holzer hat gesagt: // Derek Holzer wrote: I run PD as root (not sudo, but real root) for click-free operation. But Ubuntu has this weird thing where you can't be root, you can only sudo. Very strange... anyways, worth a try. Ubuntu doesn't enable root logins. If you set up

Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-07-01 Thread Derek Holzer
And if waving a dead chicken over the laptop would have been empirically proven before my own eyes to get better performance, I would have done that too. I don't remember how exactly I arrived at my choice of distro, kernel flags, window manager or decision to run all critical audio apps as

Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-07-01 Thread Atte André Jensen
patrick wrote: hi, Hi. Thanks for the reply! Basically I think my problems came from using array (and not table) to store a sample. Pd gave DIO errors when switching to the window containing the patch. Is this normal, and is there a way to avoid it, for instance running the gui in a separate

Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-07-01 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Atte André Jensen hat gesagt: // Atte André Jensen wrote: Basically I think my problems came from using array (and not table) to store a sample. Pd gave DIO errors when switching to the window containing the patch. Is this normal, and is there a way to avoid it, for instance running

Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-07-01 Thread Atte André Jensen
Frank Barknecht wrote: It already runs even in a separate process from the audio engine. But both are tied together very closely and communicate a lot with each other, which leads to dropouts on gfx-intensive operations e.g. moving a lot ob objects or displaying and updating large graphical

Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-07-01 Thread Matt Barber
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 15:46:57 +0200 From: Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Hallo, Atte Andr? Jensen hat gesagt: // Atte Andr? Jensen wrote

Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-07-01 Thread Phil Stone
Matt Barber wrote: Incidentally, I think the cpu usage with graphical objects is even worse on OSX, A minor quibble which does not invalidate your point: dual-core Macs don't suffer from this, as the graphics process gets its own CPU -- at least this is my empirical observation. I have a

Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-07-01 Thread Matt Barber
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Phil Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Barber wrote: Incidentally, I think the cpu usage with graphical objects is even worse on OSX, A minor quibble which does not invalidate your point: dual-core Macs don't suffer from this, as the graphics process gets

Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-07-01 Thread Phil Stone
Matt Barber wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Phil Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Barber wrote: Depending on what your patch does, you can often put much of the engine of your patch in subpatches, and then make a control surface with sends and receives. Those can be

Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-07-01 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Matt Barber hat gesagt: // Matt Barber wrote: Depending on what your patch does, you can often put much of the engine of your patch in subpatches, and then make a control surface with sends and receives. Note that GUI objects even in subpatches can lead to more CPU use. At least I once

Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-07-01 Thread patrick
I'm on a single core, so I guess -nosleep doesn't matter, right? exactly then for pd: pd -rt -jack -r 44100 -nosleep -audiobuf 256 -channels 16 -alsamidi -mididev 1 etc... Confused! 1) pd -? says -audiobuf is in ms, so 256 wouldn't make sense, or...? 2) I thought that jack

Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-07-01 Thread Matt Barber
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 23:23:44 +0200 From: Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hallo, Matt Barber hat gesagt: // Matt Barber wrote: Depending on what

[PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-06-30 Thread Atte André Jensen
Hi I get clicks and DIO errors at random intervals under linux/ubuntu with jack (no xruns). I have a 17ms latency setup with jack and a realtime patched kernel and the rest of my audio setup works great with jack. I installed pd from Pd-0.40.3-extended-20080628-ubuntu-gutsy-i386.deb Any one

Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-06-30 Thread Derek Holzer
I run PD as root (not sudo, but real root) for click-free operation. But Ubuntu has this weird thing where you can't be root, you can only sudo. Very strange... anyways, worth a try. I also use fluxbox with very little else going on in the GUI. Spent almost a year tuning Linux to get really

Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-06-30 Thread altern
I would check which processes are running on the background, Ubuntu has scheduled some processes that interfere with the sound process. In my laptop it was specially problematic updatedb and some wifi related processes. Now I only get problems when i use the realtime kernel. the normal one

Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-06-30 Thread Matt Barber
I don't use ubuntu either, but out of curiosity, what happens if you run: sudo su - ?? Matt Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:32:12 +0200 From: Derek Holzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux To: patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: pure data pd-list@iem.at Message-ID

Re: [PD] pd clicking with jack/linux

2008-06-30 Thread ydegoyon
Derek Holzer wrote: I run PD as root (not sudo, but real root) do you think there is a difference? ok we enter mysticism, do you burn some incent too before starting your machine_? well, hey sevy ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and