Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound

2007-02-13 Thread Charles Henry
Usually acoustic measurements are done with impulses, AFAIK. An ideal impulse actually has all frequencies in it, so it's useful for that kind of thing. Plus it's easy to differentiate between the initial signal and the room effects just based on time. .hc Impulses are okay, but there are bet

Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound

2007-02-13 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! Usually acoustic measurements are done with impulses, AFAIK. An ideal impulse actually has all frequencies in it, so it's useful for that kind of thing. Plus it's easy to differentiate between the initial signal and the room effects just based on time. Actually I think, engineers

Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound

2007-02-13 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
On 2/13/07, Frank Barknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Actually I think, engineers prefer to use frequency sweeps instead of pulses nowadays How fast of a sweep are you talking about? Seconds or milliseconds? Is this the 50 and 80 ms bit that the paper mentions? If we use a rising frequen

Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound

2007-02-13 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
That's a sweet concept, and a fun way to collaborate with active field recording. I'll have to try that (giving you guys reference cred of course)! ~Kyle On 2/13/07, Derek Holzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've used very rough "impulse" recordings to do binaural placement for sounds--as well as

Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound

2007-02-13 Thread Malte Steiner
An excerpted acoustic study of an abandoned Soviet aircraft bunker. Max Borisov wears ear-mount binaural microphones, and I test the space with bricks and stones. Max and I found this technique very interesting, as it allows one person to literally "become" a human microphone, and the That

Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound

2007-02-13 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Usually acoustic measurements are done with impulses, AFAIK. An > ideal impulse actually has all frequencies in it, so it's useful for > that kind of thing. Plus it's easy to differentiate between the > initial si

Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound

2007-02-13 Thread Derek Holzer
I've used very rough "impulse" recordings to do binaural placement for sounds--as well as pure abstract textures as Malte suggested--with very nice results. See soundfiles and descriptions below from Karosta Project (Latvia, 2002-3) http://karosta.edworks.net/ best, d. *** binaural.tunnel.st

Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound

2007-02-13 Thread Malte Steiner
I practice recording for convolution by simply clapping in the hand on the particular location. Later on the computer I cut away the inital sound of the clap to have only the tail of reverbration available. May be not that accurate in the scientific way but works well for me. But convolution ca

Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound

2007-02-13 Thread Kevin McCoy
If I'm correct, an impulse is just a moment where the sample level goes from one to zero, causing a click? I'm interested in doing this still but the things I've found are a little bit technical (explanations, but no practice/application/instruction)... I'll keep looking. Kevin On 2/13/07, Han

Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound

2007-02-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Usually acoustic measurements are done with impulses, AFAIK. An ideal impulse actually has all frequencies in it, so it's useful for that kind of thing. Plus it's easy to differentiate between the initial signal and the room effects just based on time. .hc On Feb 8, 2007, at 3:13 PM, K

Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound

2007-02-08 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Kevin McCoy hat gesagt: // Kevin McCoy wrote: > Thank you all for your responses - each was very helpful! I am particularly > interested (mostly out of curiosity) in how to "measure" the room with > convolution - would I blast some pink noise and then re-record it with a > good microphone,

Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound

2007-02-08 Thread Kevin McCoy
Thank you all for your responses - each was very helpful! I am particularly interested (mostly out of curiosity) in how to "measure" the room with convolution - would I blast some pink noise and then re-record it with a good microphone, and then perform a frequency analysis on that? I am sure I

Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound

2007-02-07 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
We went to the Kimmel Center last semester in acoustics class, and this is exactly what they do. They have a huge foil on top that they raise or lower depending on the size of the ensemble. Now, they also have huge empty wells on both sides of the auditorium, and if they need wider reverb they o

Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound

2007-02-07 Thread Charles Henry
If you can (and it's a big if), try to suspend your acoustic dampening panels above the heads of people. This will have a big effect on your reverb problems without disrupting the space in the hallway. I like the suggestions on this thread. very insightful Chuck __

Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound

2007-02-07 Thread Peter Plessas
Hi Kevin, one more strategy i found very helpful in the past: It seems quite logical to try to incorporate the acoustics of that special room, rather than trying to fight it. A mixture of a dry, low-volume nearfield with speakers pointing towards the listener and a reverberant ambience could m

Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound

2007-02-07 Thread padawan12
For very quick and dirty cost effective treatment use a couple of big fiberboard partitions, the 6ft kind you get to separate office cubes. Put them at 30-50 degrees to each other and place your speakers in the "focal point". Also, turn it down. The best defence against reverb is to greatly lowe

Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound

2007-02-07 Thread Malte Steiner
Alternatively, you could acoustically treat the space using acoustic foam or rigid fiberglass. This page has tons of good info: http://www.ethanwiner.com/acoustics.html Ben Alternativly you can use some cloth which might be cheaper or free from theatrical places. But if time left and concep

Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound

2007-02-07 Thread Florian Kuehnle
Am 07.02.2007 um 20:12 schrieb Kevin McCoy: Low ends tend to get very muddy and the highs and mids spill all over the place. Are there certain tricks I could use in mixing or placement/kinds of speakers to preserve the highs and mids better in a difficult space? This might be a difficult

Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound

2007-02-07 Thread Ben Saylor
I haven't done any sound installations, but in thinking about a particular space had some ideas for dealing with these acoustical issues. You could design the sound for the space, working with rather than against the acoustics. If possible, you could capture the impulse response of the space

Re: [PD] [OT] gallery installation sound

2007-02-07 Thread David Powers
On 2/7/07, Kevin McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: there are many sound scientists and artists on the list so I thought I would ask if anyone knows of resources to look at for dealing with these kinds of issues? How are other artists sorting these things out? Any links or recommendations would b