Re: [PD] Is open source better?

2014-02-10 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
Hi Pall, On 10/02/2014 04:45, Pall Thayer wrote: This was a faculty grant at a US arts-focused college. I would say that 95% of students, 80% of faculty use Apple products. That really doesn't matter though. As you asked for feedback.. I think it does. I'm not proposing the usual (sterile)

Re: [PD] Is open source better?

2014-02-10 Thread Simon Wise
On 10/02/14 20:27, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: Hi Pall, On 10/02/2014 04:45, Pall Thayer wrote: This was a faculty grant at a US arts-focused college. I would say that 95% of students, 80% of faculty use Apple products. That really doesn't matter though. As you asked for feedback.. I think it

Re: [PD] Is open source better?

2014-02-10 Thread Julian Brooks
Hi Pall, First off I would make the distinction between Free Software and Open Source (sorry to bring that one up again:). Secondly, the big thing for me is that this is really all about social-relations - how do I wish to be treated and how will I treat others. I could bang on and on but that's

Re: [PD] Is open source better?

2014-02-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
To answer your last question: have a look at webpd: https://github.com/sebpiq/WebPd There's a simple demo patch here: http://sebpiq.github.io/WebPd/sound-check/sound-check.html That's Pd's basic audio engine and message passing system running in javascript.  So in terms of open source, the

Re: [PD] Is open source better?

2014-02-10 Thread Pall Thayer
Hi Jonathan, Thanks. That's exactly the sort of thing I'm looking for. I thought WebPD was dead. Nice to see it alive and kicking. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.comwrote: To answer your last question: have a look at webpd: https://github.com/sebpiq/WebPd

Re: [PD] Is open source better?

2014-02-10 Thread Simon Wise
On 11/02/14 04:40, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Unfortunately the open source definition was designed to subtly hide the ethical reasons for doing open source development. The reasoning for this was quite straightforward-- share with your neighbor doesn't attract business dollars. So open source

Re: [PD] Is open source better?

2014-02-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 02/10/2014 05:31 PM, Simon Wise wrote: On 11/02/14 04:40, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Unfortunately the open source definition was designed to subtly hide the ethical reasons for doing open source development. The reasoning for this was quite straightforward-- share with your neighbor doesn't

Re: [PD] Is open source better?

2014-02-10 Thread Simon Wise
On 11/02/14 10:46, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: On 02/10/2014 05:31 PM, Simon Wise wrote: On 11/02/14 04:40, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Unfortunately the open source definition was designed to subtly hide the ethical reasons for doing open source development. The reasoning for this was quite

Re: [PD] Is open source better?

2014-02-09 Thread Pagano, Patrick
What App Pall? Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A Audio and Projection Design Faculty Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida, USA (352)294-2020 From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of Pall Thayer [pallt...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday,

Re: [PD] Is open source better?

2014-02-09 Thread Simon Wise
On 10/02/14 11:53, Pall Thayer wrote: I'm giving a presentation this week. In a way, it's a counter argument to a recent presentation on Max/MSP. One of the things that I want to highlight is the open sourceness of PD. libpd presents a very good argument and I'll be highlighting a project I was

Re: [PD] Is open source better?

2014-02-09 Thread Pall Thayer
This is where things enter into the odd world of academia. In all honesty, I think our application for the particular grant that was available was an outlier. The grant came with caveats. Projects were to target technology that would likely be used by faculty and students and the resulting work

Re: [PD] Is open source better?

2014-02-09 Thread Simon Wise
On 10/02/14 13:36, Pall Thayer wrote: This is where things enter into the odd world of academia. In all honesty, I think our application for the particular grant that was available was an outlier. The grant came with caveats. Projects were to target technology that would likely be used by

Re: [PD] Is open source better?

2014-02-09 Thread Pall Thayer
https://github.com/pallthayer/gesturalmusic On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Pall Thayer pallt...@gmail.com wrote: This was a faculty grant at a US arts-focused college. I would say that 95% of students, 80% of faculty use Apple products. That really doesn't matter though. The project is out

Re: [PD] Is open source better?

2014-02-09 Thread Pall Thayer
This was a faculty grant at a US arts-focused college. I would say that 95% of students, 80% of faculty use Apple products. That really doesn't matter though. The project is out there. It can be ported to any platform if people want. More than anything, it was a proof-of-concept project. If it

Re: [PD] Is open source better?

2014-02-09 Thread Simon Wise
On 10/02/14 14:45, Pall Thayer wrote: This was a faculty grant at a US arts-focused college. I would say that 95% of students, 80% of faculty use Apple products. That really doesn't matter though. The project is out there. It can be ported to any platform if people want. More than anything, it

Re: [PD] Is open source better?

2014-02-09 Thread Pall Thayer
Interesting points. I posted it to github as GPL. It probably doesn't conform to true GPL though as I didn't put that in all of the source files. Truth is, I really don't care. If Apple requires a BSD license, that never would have happened anyway. But this is all getting far away from my original

Re: [PD] Is open source better?

2014-02-09 Thread Simon Wise
On 10/02/14 14:46, Pall Thayer wrote: https://github.com/pallthayer/gesturalmusic It's GPL, so no enterprising re-distribution allowed. I'll give it a try if I get time with an iOS device. Thanks, Simon ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list

Re: [PD] Is open source better?

2014-02-09 Thread Simon Wise
On 10/02/14 11:53, Pall Thayer wrote: is the open sourceness of PD. libpd presents a very good argument and I'll be highlighting a project I was involved with that produced an IOS app that used libpd as the audio engine. Is there anything else I should be considering besides the obvious points